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The Education Thread

  1. Given our demographics, there's a lot of talk about school and university that ends up in places like the YDT or the politics thread and gets buried underneath all the other discussions. imo, education needs its own thread.

    ITT we discuss:

    What we've studied or are studying right now (does not need to be part of formal education, but should be limited to topics that don't involve fapping)

    What educational choices should I make?: "what should I study?", "should I go to university?", etc

    Advice on how to maximise one's academic success

    What changes need to be made to our education systems (this will obviously differ depending on the poster's nationality)

    And anything else that's obviously pertinent

    Don't ask us to do you homework (unless you're going to pay)

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  2. I'm beered up and sleepy, but i very much like this thread.

    I shall return over the weekend with some answers.

    Kudi done good this time, oh yes siree he has.

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  3. So gonna post some funny shit in here or what?

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  4. pantsukudasai said:
    I'm beered up and sleepy, but i very much like this thread.

    I shall return over the weekend with some answers.

    Kudi done good this time, oh yes siree he has.

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  5. On advice if in the US always get your first two years done at the local community college if you can get credits that will transfer.

    Next get resident status in the state of the university you plan on attending before enrolling.
    Try to get cheaper housing then on or near campus.

    Get every grant and scholarship you can and try to keep loans to a minimum.

    Get a good reliable used car as this will open up a lot of options.

    Last get a part time job, paid internship, mow lawns,tutor, or do anything else you can to earn some extra cash to help cover expenses.

    If you're lucky you will graduate with a manageable amount of debt or maybe even none at all.
    If all this fails then have rich parents, win the lottery, or look into going into pharmacology.

    What would I fix I'd chuck the entire loan system or at least change the law to make it where college loan debt can be expunged in bankruptcy.
    Plus price controls,alternative education, and more government assistance such as grants.

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  6. This thread will become a rant about how much uni/college costs.
    About how hard it is to get a (decent) job event after graduating.
    And how the school system in general sucks.

    I really want to finish my last year in one go.
    But after the first week already I have 3 projects running.
    1. The big project I was talking about yesterday, making an education plan for kids in grade school about animalwelfare.
    2. Another one where we need to research (probably) something with dairy cows. Not much is known about this yet. I just heard it yesterday because I missed the first class due to my uni not being clear and shit.
    3. We need to make and organize an excursion for other students and random people to attend and inform them about (whatever subject and place whe choose.)

    Fucking bullshit. Everything is with other people as well, so I soon have no idea what is going on.

    We will have a few exams as well. And I need to redo 3 exams too.

    After Christmas we will get our graduating project which will be even bigger.

    Sigh. Just one week and already all this.

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  7. Slightly relevant... The careers advice service sucks (it was compulsory to get advice in school). At 15, I was "advised" but rather it was insisted that I should do BTEC Business Studies.
    At the end of the day, the career advisors don't really care about the outcome or the employability of the chosen subject (thus it was never mentioned). They just want to hurry up and finish the session. Also waste of School's £18,000.

    I'm glad I didn't choose the BTEC route though.

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  8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_dropout_billionaires

    Dropping out of higher education is worth billions (246 billion)

    Join the trend while it's hot

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  9. Artwork said:
    This thread will become a rant about how much uni/college costs.
    About how hard it is to get a (decent) job event after graduating.
    And how the school system in general sucks.

    A rant would be acceptable as well so long as it's about the topic.

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  10. uteki said:

    I'm surprised they didn't tell you to take as many "soft" A-levels as possible and then do a degree in media studies at a university that was founded after the invention of the iPod.

    [rant]

    In British careers advice, there's a fundamental conflict of interest: what is good for the school is not good for the student.

    Schools are judged according to exam results with little (at GCSE level) or no (at A-level) distinction between results in more or less difficult or useful subjects. The incentive is therefore to tell the student to take a useless subject they can get an A in rather than a useful subject they can get a B in. Top universities sometimes won't count A-levels in subjects like sociology or media studies when making their offers.

    There's also incentive (at least, there was in my day) to push stupid subjects such as General Studies (IIRC, I got an A in general studies even though I only did the exam and never turned up to a single lesson). A-levels in these subjects are often completely ignored by universities, making it a complete waste of students' time. Of course, the school still gets credit for another A-level.

    Pass rate is also important, meaning that students who look like they're going to fail a course are usually kicked out before they can have a negative effect on the school's scores.

    They're also judged according to the number of students they can send to university, without any regard to how useful their degree is going to be. It looks good for the school's league table results and open days if they can say that 80% of their students went on to university, but those 80% might all have gone Dumbfucktown Polytechnic and got into £50,000 of debt for a degree no-one will accept.

    [/rant]

    imo, most A-level students are wasting their time with at least one of their courses, and most university students are wasting their time and their money. Not everyone needs a degree and not everyone is capable of getting a degree that's actually worth the debt.

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  11. Also most media, communications etc. degrees are only useful as an extra which you can pad your resumé with. For example my brother has a degree in communications and a certificate in Italian-Hungarian translation and he got a job thanks to his degree as the other applicant didn't have one.
    But that degree on it's own without any other qualifications is worthless.

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  12. akherousin said:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_dropout_billionaires

    Dropping out of higher education is worth billions (246 billion)

    Join the trend while it's hot

    Keep in mind they were skilled in the things they made money in even before they went to college.
    They had a knack for it.
    Funny is it seems to be a phenomenon mostly endemic to the US.

    pilu said:
    Also most media, communications etc. degrees are only useful as an extra which you can pad your resumé with. For example my brother has a degree in communications and a certificate in Italian-Hungarian translation and he got a job thanks to his degree as the other applicant didn't have one.
    But that degree on it's own without any other qualifications is worthless.

    True many employers do put way to much stock in a piece of paper vs the person's real skills.
    The worst IT person I ever worked with had a lot of bullshit degrees like your brother.
    He broke so much stuff.
    The best was a guy who was mostly self taught.

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  13. kudichan said:

    I'm surprised they didn't tell you to take as many "soft" A-levels as possible and then do a degree in media studies at a university that was founded after the invention of the iPod.

    I know ;-;
    Back then, being 15, I had no idea what I wanted to do and I said Business Studies is an ok subject (showing slight interest at GCSE). They just told me to go for BTEC without outlining what the course entails - which is a fuckload of boring and useless essays. Didn't even outline career route either.
    IT WAS JUST A SMALL INTEREST and they insisted that I should go for it. I was almost persuaded since I had little knowledge.

    kudichan said:

    imo, most A-level students are wasting their time with at least one of their courses, and most university students are wasting their time and their money. Not everyone needs a degree and not everyone is capable of getting a degree that's actually worth the debt.

    Yeah and it's a shame that people are also going to University just for the sake of it.
    People forget that University is only once in their lifetime and I hear so many people rushing in just to have fun. But I've known so many people regretting their University choices at the end of it and wished they had done another subject; that's more "useful".

    Teachers kept telling me to go through clearing after results day and said having a GAP year is a waste.
    They really do not care what kind of subject or shit university you go to. They don't care how much debt you get and the possible negative outcome that comes from it.

    The education system needs to encourage students more to aim high (even if there is that possibility of failing; it's better than being told that you won't be able to attain that achievement)/give advice better and especially aim to improve the employability of that person rather than letting the person destroy themselves with something they may not like in the end just because of *slight* interest.

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  14. uteki said:

    I've known so many people regretting their University choices at the end of it and wished they had done another subject; that's more "useful".

    < person

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  15. Let's see. I went to college for art. Then dropped out because I was dicking around like a fucking retard. Then after a year and a half went to game programming and dropped out of that cause I found the course way too hard. Then dropped out of accounting cause I hated it.

    I regret taking accounting so much cause I was under a lot of pressure to take another program instead of just working...

    I'm stumped at what I should do next. Might be better for me to do something that's not education though...

    I should probably stop dicking around.

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  16. I have been extremely fortunate. I have studied mechanical engineering for 4 years with the support of ~$20,000 in scholarships per year. I am debt free. I have focused all of my energy on studying and schoolwork. I have a high GPA and multiple job prospects, but I just realized that I'm not sure that I want to be an engineer. I may have wasted 22 years of my life following someone else's dream.

    My degree will be worth quite a bit, and I don't think I will have any trouble finding employment, but my pride is constantly being trampled by self-taught individuals who definitely are better engineers than myself.

    I'm really good at school. If anyone wants HW help...

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  17. Damn... Debt free and a good degree. I'm jelly.

    What would rather do than engineering?

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  18. You could always sell your degree.

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  19. hikikomori1969 said:

    What would rather do than engineering?

    I think that I might just stay in academia forever, because it's the only thing I've ever been good at. Otherwise I have no idea what I want to do.

    palmtop-tiger said:
    You could always sell your degree.

    Teach me how.

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  20. pinkturtlefart said:

    Teach me how.

    ebay

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