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   Mistress Antika
   

   So, we have a fetish thread. But BDSM and Fetish are two different things seeing as BDSM is more often than not seen as a Lifestyle instead of a Fetish. And since most of you are aware of the fact that I am pretty much into this lifestyle since a while back I thought... Why the hell not.
   So yeah, BDSM THREAD! Yay!

   Let's try to keep this thread strictly on the BDSM topic, if you want to talk about kinks, go to the fetish thread.

   Here's an explanation of the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM

   And here are some videos I like.

   ^These two are from Punish Me which a friend said she'd fix for me but still haven't so I'm still waiting to get to see it.

   ^Unknown, I'm still very interested in knowing where it came from though.

   Then there are other known films and books, like:
   Anne Rice, Sleeping Beauty (Erotic Novel, 3 parts)
   The Secretary (Movie, James Spader and Maggie Gyllenhaal)
   La Pianiste (Movie, French, No happy ending on this one though but it's nice.)
   The Pet (Movie, Pierre Dulat, It's an adorable movie)

   And no, I am not going to name the book you all thought of.

   So, your thoughts, fantasies, movie/book/comic tips, experiences, dreams? Go right here. Don't hold back.

   Here's Trent struggling sweetly in his ropes.

   

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2. 

   MasterInfamous
   

   antika said:
   So, we have a fetish thread. But BDSM and Fetish are two different things seeing as BDSM is more often than not seen as a Lifestyle instead of a Fetish.

   I figured it would be both.

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3. 

   桂 言葉 死
   

   MasterInfamous said:

   I figured it would be both.

   ======

   I have to agree...

   However, being as this topic - 'may lead' - towards (other) nefarious ventures of this fetish...

   ~ just procure (some) common-sense is all I will say.

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4. 

   Savage
   

   antika said:
   Stuff

   You must be REALLY frustrated at the moment ;)

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5. 

   Mistress Antika
   

   MasterInfamous said:
   I figured it would be both.

   No, you see, the fetish thread is about sex. While BDSM isn't always entirely about sex, a lot of the time it's simply the Dominant and Submissive act. It's the fact of, for example, me deciding when you'll be able to go to the toilet or not. Having control of you, simply.

   And that, as you can understand, is not sexual. It's just... Dominance and Submission.

   Now, what I would like this thread to be about is those roles. I would like for example the different members of San-kun to identify themselves and come to the conclusion of what they are in their own opinion.

   A Domme needs a Sub, as much as a Sub needs a Domme. BDSM is not about the Dominant one having the to treat someone like shit (though a lot of Femdom are complete bitches, which is most often than not acceptable to an extent). The Sub needs to have someone strong in mind to ... "take care" of them and the Domme's job is to be alert on that, even while enjoying the whipping or whatever it is. It's knowing when to stop too, if there's no safeword in the game and stuff like that.

   So as you see, I don't think this is right for the fetish thread (though the bondage part surely is IMO but oh well, let's go with the BDSM name which is most known).

   spacesavage said:
   You must be REALLY frustrated at the moment ;)

   Yeah well I've had a lot of time to think up a lot of stuff to do to my subs and time to analyse my own "Switch"-ness. And since instead of actually having a BDSM relationship, I'm writing a lot about them... Then well, a discussion would be nice for a change.

   And I've thought that San-kun needed a thread like this for a while but I thought that most people here aren't interested in it but there's no harm in giving it a shot.

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6. 

   Vespertine Aspergerian Nincompoop
   

   I've always been fascinated with restraints.

   Rope was one of my favorite toys as a kid, and I used to tie up anybody who'd let me. N-not that it was sexual at the time. I started waaay before those emotions kicked in.

   Hm... ...I wonder if my little brother is into being tied up after all those experiments I put him through though...

   ...That's an awkward thought, to be sure...

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7. 

   Mistress Antika
   

   Hahah it wouldn't surprise me if he found it to be quite relaxing as a grown up. I've yet to play with ropes, because I am a very "safe"-person so to say. I want to be able to make a secure knot without any risk of the person being injured. There are, after all, problems with ropes that often come up. More often than not is because inexperienced people play around and hurt each other.

   But are you only about the physical restraints or the mental ones too?

   - - - -

   So! Question time!
   1. Would you define yourself with the BDSM terms? A Domme, Submissive or Switch? And why.
   2. Have you ever experienced any of the parts of BDSM or wondered about it? (Like spanking and such)
   3. What's the first thought that comes to mind when someone says BDSM?

   1. I Personally define myself as a Switch. Mostly Dominant but with certain individuals I can take a submissive stand.
   2. Oh I've experienced it. To the extent of having/leaving bite marks or whip marks on people. Though spanking is forever my favorite punishment to give or receive. Specially on a white round butt so it's clear to see the redness afterwards.
   3. "Fuck Yeah"

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8. 

   Vespertine Aspergerian Nincompoop
   

   antika said:
   Hahah it wouldn't surprise me if he found it to be quite relaxing as a grown up. I've yet to play with ropes, because I am a very "safe"-person so to say. I want to be able to make a secure knot without any risk of the person being injured. There are, after all, problems with ropes that often come up. More often than not is because inexperienced people play around and hurt each other.

   But are you only about the physical restraints or the mental ones too?

   Hm... I'm not entire sure!

   I know that I like being vulnerable, and I know that my first few orgasms where from pain.

   But, as you may have noticed, I'm not very assertive in pursuing relationships, or even socializing in general! My experience with the social aspects of BDSM is tragically slighting!

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9. 

   Mistress Antika
   

   Jakuryusei said:
   I know that I like being vulnerable, and I know that my first few orgasms where from pain.

   Ahw, you'd be such a lovely slave.

   Jakuryusei said:
   But, as you may have noticed, I'm not very assertive in pursuing relationships, or even socializing in general! My experience with the social aspects of BDSM is tragically slighting!

   Tssk, I'll just have to go get you and make you experience is then!!
   No but really, judging from what you told me, I think you'd enjoy a bit of "Sensual Domination". I wouldn't really go to the whipping and spanking part with you because it's very different who likes it and who doesn't ('cuz it's not beautiful as they all make it sound, it hurts like a bitch but it's supposed to hurt but some people expected something else entirely).

   The first think I'd do is tie you naked against a tree in the woods. Yeehs, that'd be so much fun.

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10. 

    Vespertine Aspergerian Nincompoop
    

    antika said:

    So! Question time!
    1. Would you define yourself with the BDSM terms? A Domme, Submissive or Switch? And why.
    2. Have you ever experienced any of the parts of BDSM or wondered about it? (Like spanking and such)
    3. What's the first thought that comes to mind when someone says BDSM?

    1: I'm a switch! Sorta.. I want to be tied up really bad, but I'd love to put other people in restraints too! I'd just probably suck at it because I'm a autistic, and we're not precisely dominant material... It'd probably only put my partner in restraints if I wanted to teach them something.

    Okay, maybe I'm just a sub. XD

    2: I was on a tour of the police station with my boy scout troupe once, and I handcuffed myself to a bench in public there. This was when I was 14 or so, so it was after I started seeing bits of porn around the internet. I definitely caught a whiff of the sexual connotations, and I didn't care what they did to me for it. :3

    They didn't want to unlock me at the end of the tour... by the way.

    ha ha

    3: SAD MEMORIES OF A GIRL WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND!

    Also, I guess I think of the toy cuffs in keep hidden by my desk. They're fantastic~<3

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    Vespertine Aspergerian Nincompoop
    

    antika said:

    Ahw, you'd be such a lovely slave.

    Tssk, I'll just have to go get you and make you experience is then!!
    No but really, judging from what you told me, I think you'd enjoy a bit of "Sensual Domination". I wouldn't really go to the whipping and spanking part with you because it's very different who likes it and who doesn't ('cuz it's not beautiful as they all make it sound, it hurts like a bitch but it's supposed to hurt but some people expected something else entirely).

    The first think I'd do is tie you naked against a tree in the woods. Yeehs, that'd be so much fun.

    Too painful?

    Girl, I held my cock in rubber bands (and possibly clothes pins) until it was throbbing blue, and that was when I was probably just 13! That's actually how I thought everybody masturbated for a while! XD

    I love pain~

    (The tree sounds fun btw, just the right amount of everything I enjoy...)

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12. 

    Mistress Antika
    

    Jakuryusei said:
    Okay, maybe I'm just a sub. XD

    Lol my thoughts exactly. But you can be the dominants right hand, I mean, we all know dominants don't always do all the work. We're lazy bastards when it comes to cleaning up wine we've dropped on the floor. Better have the slave lick it up.

    Jakuryusei said:
    I was on a tour of the police station with my boy scout troupe once, and I handcuffed myself to a bench in public there. This was when I was 14 or so, so it was after I started seeing bits of porn around the internet. I definitely caught a whiff of the sexual connotations, and I didn't care what they did to me for it. :3

    They didn't want to unlock me at the end of the tour... by the way.

    ha ha

    Huh you just grabbed handcuffs and locked yourself? Where did you get them? That's hilarious. I can just imagine the scene... Even better with police men around. I just love the uniforms of the police men in Sweden.

    Jakuryusei said:
    3: SAD MEMORIES OF A GIRL WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND!

    Also, I guess I think of the toy cuffs in keep hidden by my desk. They're fantastic~<3

    Ahw, well you'll get over it. I too get such a big wave of disappointment everytime a potential fuckbuddy goes all "WTF" to my BDSM-love.

    Also, toy cuffs are fun and all. Real cuffs give you a real rush.
    (Yet again, Deth you're the best. And I promised their use isn't only for shameless actions.)

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    MasterInfamous
    

    antika said:

    No, you see, the fetish thread is about sex. While BDSM isn't always entirely about sex, a lot of the time it's simply the Dominant and Submissive act.

    A fetish isn't necessarily about sex either.

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14. 

    Vespertine Aspergerian Nincompoop
    

    antika said:

    Lol my thoughts exactly. But you can be the dominants right hand, I mean, we all know dominants don't always do all the work. We're lazy bastards when it comes to cleaning up wine we've dropped on the floor. Better have the slave lick it up.

    Of course!

    antika said:

    Huh you just grabbed handcuffs and locked yourself? Where did you get them? That's hilarious. I can just imagine the scene... Even better with police men around. I just love the uniforms of the police men in Sweden.

    They were already attached to the bench on one end, I didn't steel anything! Honest! I was just helping you test out your equipment, guys!

    How unappreciative.

    antika said:

    Ahw, well you'll get over it. I too get such a big wave of disappointment everytime a potential fuckbuddy goes all "WTF" to my BDSM-love.

    Also, toy cuffs are fun and all. Real cuffs give you a real rush.
    (Yet again, Deth you're the best. And I promised their use isn't only for shameless actions.)

    Granted, but I want to be able to get out in case there's an emergency, like I'm chocking on my stuff gag, or something. I LOVE real handcuffs, but I'd only lock myself in them if there was somebody nearby to unlock me.

    Hm... I need a safer hobby. XD

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    Mistress Antika
    

    MasterInfamous said:
    A fetish isn't necessarily about sex either.

    I associated it with sex since it's something that turns you on.

    Jakuryusei said:
    They were already attached to the bench on one end, I didn't steel anything! Honest! I was just out your equipment, guys!

    How unappreciative.

    Hahah I'm kinda envious of the whole thing.

    Jakuryusei said:
    Granted, but I want to be able to get out in case there's an emergency, like I'm chocking on my stuff gag, or something. I LOVE real handcuffs, but I'd only lock myself in them if there was somebody nearby to unlock me.

    Hm... I need a safer hobby. XD

    Lol agreed.
    And yeah cuffs are always in the ABC of BDSM but what I've been dying to get is the nipple clamps. And a gag with a hole in it. Mostly I've been using Homemade stuff because it's always felt good enough but lately I've been feeling like I really should stock up for better playsessions.

    I mean, LEG SPREADERS WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE CHRISTMAS PRESENT. I'd be so happy. And I should probably get a longer whip, but those hurt more.

    I'd make a gigantic shopping list if it wasn't for the fact that I won't be getting any of this stuff at least until May (and the bigger stuff will surely have to wait 'til I get my own home... I'll have to put metal rings on the walls.)

    My home will be great. Sigh.
    Related. V

    

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    Baronight
    

    I'm not really into pain and suffering...

    But i do like girl wearing skin tight latex suit....
    with some fishnet stocking and high heel boots

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17. 

    Ichi-Chan
    

    'I associate it with sex because it is something that turns you on'.

    The same can be said for BDSM. Lifestyle or not, even certain fetishes can be made a lifestyle. For example, someone finds nudity 24/7 to be s fetish, but also a lifestyle. Exibitionism, swaping, canniblism, vampirism.. Not all fetishes have to turn you on 24/7 to make it a part of your lifestyle.

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    桂 言葉 死
    

    antika said:

    Lol my thoughts exactly.

    >snip<

    Also, toy cuffs are fun and all. Real cuffs give you a real rush.
    (Yet again, Deth you're the best. And I promised their use isn't only for shameless actions.)

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    ~ 'jdltk' ~

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    Mistress Antika
    

    xichisex said:
    'I associate it with sex because it is something that turns you on'.

    The same can be said for BDSM. Lifestyle or not, even certain fetishes can be made a lifestyle. For example, someone finds nudity 24/7 to be s fetish, but also a lifestyle. Exibitionism, swaping, canniblism, vampirism.. Not all fetishes have to turn you on 24/7 to make it a part of your lifestyle.

    I don't mean it in that way. I mean, fetishes can give you the entertainment and turn you on, but for me BDSM brings me a sense of calm I can't achieve with anything else.

    I have fetishes too, for example leather and latex, yet those never bring me the same peace that BDSM does.

    But I guess it's up to every person.

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    Neat Hedgehog
    

    antika said:
    There are, after all, problems with ropes that often come up. More often than not is because inexperienced people play around and hurt each other.

    No joke. I can't count how many people I've encountered who have permanent injuries as a result of doing stupid things with rope. They range from scars from rope-burn, cuts from rope that was too thin, to nerve damage from loss of circulation. Hint: if a person's veins bulge and change color, maybe it's too tight to leave them like that for a couple hours. Ahh, well, people just don't use common sense for anything.

    antika said:
    So! Question time!
    1. Would you define yourself with the BDSM terms? A Domme, Submissive or Switch? And why.
    2. Have you ever experienced any of the parts of BDSM or wondered about it? (Like spanking and such)
    3. What's the first thought that comes to mind when someone says BDSM?

    Well, now this requires something better than a phone keyboard... Much better.

    1) Well... hmm... May as well say Switch, I guess. For me, that really doesn't seem totally accurate, though. I have always had the instinct to care for and protect people, which leads to very dominant tendencies.

    It's funny how many people think that's some kind of contradiction, because they assume all doms are sinister bullies. Personally, I think if someone actually trusts you enough to let you do... whatever it is you want to do... to / with them, you'd better take your responsibility seriously enough to make sure they're safe and happy at all times. I guess that appeals to me because my "normal" (day-to-day) interactions with people are... less smooth than average, so I enjoy the idea of someone being in a position that I know, absolutely, how to deal with, and lets do everything right for a change.

    At the same time, well, the idea of being able to take a break is awfully attractive at times. It really isn't possible to relax as... thoroughly any other way than being tied, somehow.

    2) No experience with anyone else, but I have played around by myself a lot. Got a couple big sacks of toys that I either bought, thanks to various going out of business sales, or made. It appeals to my "tinkering" nature. I like to come up with ways to do stuff, and I frequently help various forum members (on other forums) come up with ways to build little gadgets, or engineer ways to do things safely. I need to study some basic electronics engineering to do some really clever stuff that I've come up with, though...

    3) Pet play. Definitely. Easily my favorite part of the whole thing, and it's always what I think of when someone brings up BDSM. I like it much better than typical "master/slave" routines, because if someone is your pet, that implies to me that they're on a more equal footing, and you're expected to dote over them and spoil them like you would a real pet. (Quite naturally, the last few chapters of "Nana to Kaoru" are pretty much the best things that I have ever read)

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