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futurama , uh? , but liek in that episode of futurama , what if this garbage return? , it will be like thousands of Nuclear Bombs falling in the earth
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maeriden said:
If cartoons ever taught us anything, it's that we should put garbage on a rocket and fire it into space
That could be a solution, but who will pay for it? You know, the electricity prices will be skyrocket.
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dirtypair said:
That could be a solution, but who will pay for it? You know, the electricity prices will be skyrocket ....... teehee~~lol
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the peeple haves spoken, and so the government is shuttering the nuclear pwr plants.
the government can't help it when the actual owners of the pwr plants are the ones who screwed up.
nao if they had built the pwr plant on the hill, and not dug out the hillside closest to the shoreline.
none of this would of happened.The least they could of done was house the backup generators on the hills behind the plant, or on top of the top floors of the one of the buildings.
You know when they were getting desperate & having to dump sea water to cool the reators.
Not once did it occur to any anyone that the SDF could of used one or two or their heavy lift choppers to fly in back up generators to power the pumps.
The rest - as you know is history.Posted 1 year ago # -
The government didn't have a choice with shutting down the reactors. They were all required to undergo stress tests and improve their safety regulations due to massive public outcry.
Now of course, putting them back on line requires not only the consent of the local government, but also the surrounding prefectures within 30 to 100 kilometers.
For example, the Oi reactor in Fukui Prefecture has the consent of the local population but Kyoto and Osaka Prefecture (which use a lot of power from Fukui and will suffer in summer if it doesn't go back online) are strongly opposed to the restart.
The only logical short-term replacement is thermal power, which will cost trillons of yen more than nuclear power until alternate sources can be found.
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danhibiki said:
Solar and wind sound like a good idea. plus Japan is like all coastal so they're bound to have some good wind.Maybe I watch too much Ironman, since Japanese techonolgy are that advance can they create something like the one Tony use? lol..
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dirtypair said:
I totally agree, but what about the waste?
Send it to Germany.
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Somehow I expect this to sort itself as soon as the first power outage hits in the summer. People like to scream boo nuclear power but when it becomes apparent that getting rid of it gets in the way of their daily comforts they'll start whining why were they taken offline.
Instead of closing them down they should be updating and/or replacing them with the latest tech wherever possible. I don't think Japan is that well suited for Wind Energy, population density seems to be quite high and lots of mountain hills and what not. Well they could float them out in the sea but that increases the costs.
First person to invent a machine getting energy from but the wind on sea, the energy from the waves and the tidal working wins a cookie!
Oh wait, lets add solar panels on the blades of the windmill and make the bottom a feeding ground for algae producing hydrogen.As an island nation they really should look into putting all that (moving) water into use.
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Often it's not the lack of technology but the lack of proper laws and regulations that prevent the use of alternate sources of energy.
Nuclear power has held dominance in Japan's energy production for the last 30 years and as such most laws have given priority to it over others.
This means that even if people want to buy energy from clean sources, their is a plethora of red tape that they must go through even if it is available.
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sylphin said:
Maybe I watch too much Ironman, since Japanese techonolgy are that advance can they create something like the one Tony use? lol..
I wouldn't trust any Asian country with an Arc Reactor lol.
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triniking1234 said:
I wouldn't trust any Asian country with an Arc Reactor lol.
Suldn they try something similiar, maybe its gonna work.
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dirtypair said:
I totally agree, but what about the waste?
Easy, load all the waste onto a tanker or freighter, then sink the ship in the ocean, tow the wreck to the induction zone where two tetonic plates meet. Leave the wreck there. In a few million years, the ship will disintegrate and all the atomic waste will be shoved back underground to be recycled through the natural effects of geological processes. Far away - underground.
Luckily Japan is on the ideal site there is an induction zone just off shore.
Japan can take all of the world's nuclear waste products and dispose of it locally & safely,..... and charge everyone ridiculous rates - solving its financial woes. As well as getting rid of all the atomic waste that everyone is storing on the surface.
Because they're idiots, why store it above ground when it originally came from underground?The best place to send it is back into the magma where it came from millions of years ago. By the time that it comes back up to be deposited under another tetonic plate, it will no longer be radioactive - but completely inert and safe.
If Japan creates a new industry of disposing of nuclear & atomic waste, safely, there is no reason to completely abandon atomic power.
The power plants just have to be designed and built to be safer and more efficient.Like building an atomic power plant on a super tanker for example. It can be immune to the effects of earthquakes, parked in a harbour and off load power to where ever its needed.
When the reactor becomes so old and obsolete, it can be retired in the same place where all the nuclear waste is being dumped,... in the induction zone. Where it will be dragged down back into the earth and safely recycled under tremendous heat and pressure over the next million years. The toxic effects will be far from contaminating the surface.Posted 1 year ago # -
One problem with that plan
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CC said:
One problem with that planso you rather have Japan be in debt like all the other nations in the world?
If its operating in the black, there will be money for new industry and new jobs. As well as upgrading the natural disaster defenses all over Japan.
New tsunami walls for the towns that were devastated, with new harbors to foster the fishing industry. While behind the new walls/harbors the land could be filled in to raise the land's elevation or villages can be rebuilt, just like in Holland.Posted 1 year ago # -
dirtypair said:
I totally agree, but what about the waste?
Send it to China no one will notice it.
Seriously though recycle the long lived isotopes out of it and burn them as new fission fuel.
Then vitrify the rest it which means mix it with molten glass ,place it inside concrete casts and then put them down a deep oceanic trench or in an old salt mine.
Thorium reactors make a lot less dangerous long lived waste then conventional Uranium 235 reactors.CC said:
Somehow I expect this to sort itself as soon as the first power outage hits in the summer. People like to scream boo nuclear power but when it becomes apparent that getting rid of it gets in the way of their daily comforts they'll start whining why were they taken offline.Instead of closing them down they should be updating and/or replacing them with the latest tech wherever possible. I don't think Japan is that well suited for Wind Energy, population density seems to be quite high and lots of mountain hills and what not. Well they could float them out in the sea but that increases the costs.
First person to invent a machine getting energy from but the wind on sea, the energy from the waves and the tidal working wins a cookie!
Oh wait, lets add solar panels on the blades of the windmill and make the bottom a feeding ground for algae producing hydrogen.As an island nation they really should look into putting all that (moving) water into use.
I agree once summer hits they'll be begging for those plants to be restarted.
Or once they see how expensive power from imported fossil fuels are and how dirty the numerous mega watt range diesel and turbine generators are as since money was short they would have been bought from the cheapest contractor which means they probably don't meet any emissions standard.
Or when a serious accident happens because of increased tanker traffic beyond what the shipping lanes ,docks, and dock workers normally can handle.
Other nasty side effects Japan getting in trouble for exceeding the Kyoto carbon quotas or buying oil from countries there are embargoes against such as Iran.
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great news.
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Vegio said:
great news.yay
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