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Superior Adaptations and Remakes

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Meester Kennedy

Another subjective thread.

Complaining about how watered-down or skewed adaptations and remakes can be has become very popular over the last several years. It's a strange thing when the reverse seems to occur to the former, and a story is adapted into another medium and appears to be more enjoyable than the creator's own handiwork. The same can be said for remakes, which do everything right that the original did wrong. Here is the place where you can list the various stories and their respective media that you personally consider to be adaptations or remakes that surpass their source material in one way or several. Go ahead and list reasons for your choices, but I'm not going to bother. In my case, here are some titles that I deem superior in execution in their adapted or remade form:

-Elfen Lied (anime)
-Resident Evil (GameCube remake)
-V for Vendetta (film)
-Let Me In (film)
-Halloween (2007 film)

I can imagine that the new Berserk films covering the Golden Age arc will make it to this category when they're released. I have a soft spot for the existing anime series, however. As for the Evangelion series/movies, they end up going in completely different directions, so I love them both for what they are.

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
David Drake

I'd say the film "WANTED" (2008) is one adaptation which surpassed the original material. The comic books were a little too heavy with the whole superpower thing, I felt the movie was actually a lot more believable, it's still one of my favourite movies of all time.

As far as remakes/reboots go. "Batman Begins" would be an obvious one and also this years "X - Men: First Class" remains my favourite movie of 2011.

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motaku96

Actually there's a Kenshin movie(not the live action one) coming out this winter that covers the Kyoto arc.

I wouldn't mind seeing some 80's anime getting visual remakes. Original Gundam and the like.

There's the harlock saga cg movie

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
homulilly

Rebuild is better that the original!

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
AVEN

hikikomori1969 said:
Rebuild is better that the original!

Nop

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Meester Kennedy

daviddrake said:
As far as remakes/reboots go. "Batman Begins" would be an obvious one and also this years "X - Men: First Class" remains my favourite movie of 2011.

Thanks for bringing up reboots and prequels; I'd almost forgotten about them, apart from my differentiation of the Evangelion series of the 90s and its recent films. Rise of the Planet of the Apes was also a phenomenal film, and makes me think that sequels to it could possibly surpass the original series of films (visually, at least).

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
homulilly

AVEN said:

Nop

That's because you're biased against new anime.

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
Pantsu~kudasai

Kanon 2006 > Kanon 2002

Brotherhood > FMA

Chris Nolan's Batman series

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
AVEN

hikikomori1969 said:
That's because you're biased against new anime.

Nah, It's just that the original show was better.

pantsukudasai said:
Brotherhood > FMA

Brotherhood is superior in every way

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
Twintail Tsundere

hikikomori1969 said:
Rebuild is better that the original!

But it's not a remake.

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
桂言葉死

hikikomori1969 said:

That's because you're biased against new anime.

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Oh the irony in this statement...

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
homulilly

palmtop-tiger said:

But it's not a remake.

Huh, I thought it counted.

Deth said:

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Oh the irony in this statement...

Thee's nothing really ironic about it,lol.

I treat new anime the same way I treat old anime. I mean my favourite anime is one that came out just this year.

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
Vegio

I would like to say two things:

1) why
2) please stop

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
Palmtop Dragon

motaku96 said:
Actually there's a Kenshin movie(not the live action one) coming out this winter that covers the Kyoto arc.

I wouldn't mind seeing some 80's anime getting visual remakes. Original Gundam and the like.

There's the harlock saga cg movie

Looking forward to these, and the Gaiking one (if that thing ever actually gets finished).

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Hazandyne

IMO, "Superior" and "Adaptation/Remake" don't really go together well.

Seen a few reworks of my favorite titles and the result was utter disappointment.

There's a reason why the saying "nothing beats the original" is cliched...

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
Nin

I wouldn't say it's superior to the original, but I find the Puella Magi Madoka Magica manga to be no less impressive than the original.

I don't know whether the purpose of this thread was to also stretch to music, but I like Lacuna Coil's cover of Depeche Mode's Enjoy the Silence much better.

Posted 4 years ago # Quote
giascle

Hazandyne said:

There's a reason why the saying "nothing beats the original" is cliched...

Yes, because whiny nostalgiafags don't like to admit that sometimes the newer version is better.

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Hazandyne

giascle said:

Yes, because whiny nostalgiafags don't like to admit that sometimes the newer version is better.

...and because the cliche is true.

For the most part, remakes are just the production outfits necroing an old hat thing that was big during granddaddy's time, giving it a "modern day twist" and expecting the now generation to eat it up with the same kind of gusto to get the profits rolling...

...if the network TV and Hollywood remakes are any indication, this mindset is always doomed to miserable failure.

I'm not totally against remakes. It's just a sad prospect that entertainment will never be as fresh as it used to be.

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giascle

Cliches are not facts, they're observations of trends. They're one step above stereotypes.

A remake is not just updating something to connect to the young people. What about movies like Scarface or The Wizard of Oz, which had already been made, but the originals weren't very good? What about shot-for-shot remakes, which try to recreate the work as close as possible? It's obviously impossible to make it 100% the same, so there might be tiny things in the new version that make it better. Crap like G.I. Joe is not the only kind of remake.

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homulilly

Ninsheart said:
I wouldn't say it's superior to the original, but I find the Puella Magi Madoka Magica manga to be no less impressive than the original.

Huh, really? I kinda thought the Madoka manga was meh.

giascle said:

Yes, because whiny nostalgiafags don't like to admit that sometimes the newer version is better.

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