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   Mizushima 水島
   

   While on facebook I came across this

   http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/716348/final-fantasy-10-hd-remake-coming-to-the-playstation-vita-and-playstation-3/?cmpid=sn-110418-facebook-28-fbfantrack

   With everyone wanting FF6 (at least) thru 9 to be made they chose X. Now I'm happy they chose X to remake I just think 6-9 should get the same makeover (with trophies added). It could be a possibility that they are working their way down (something I'm hoping but know it's somewhat in vain)

   Also as a KH fan, I kinda wish for a Remake of those games and for KH2 to b made into a hard game (cuz even mickey said that shit was too easy). While they are at it, making 365/2, birth by sleep and Idr that last one (Recoded?) but have them made into ps3 tittles. Doing this it should help them seeing as Square's fanbase is kinda diminishing.

   What is everyone's thought on this?

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   *Facedesk*

   The ONLY title that didn't need a remake (12 not considered for stylistic reason) and guess what square enix is doing?
   Can't they just fail and sell the company to someone who knows how to make video games?

   Btw, I liked ff10, and if I'll be able to find a used copy for like 5€ I'll be buying it. I have no intention so spend money on a game I already played for 300+ hours (not kidding) that had decent graphics and therefore no need for a remake

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   anoran
   

   FFX doesn't need a remake.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   jamesownsall
   

   I highly doubt they would 'remake' it in the strictest sense of the word.

   Resident Evil: Code Veronica and Resident Evil 4 received HD makeover for PS3 and call them 'remakes'. You know what Capcom did? Increase resolution and polygon count per character, use higher quality textures and sound samples and fix the lighting here and there. THAT'S IT. I'd bet 500 bucks it's the same thing S-E's doing for FFX.

   People asking for remakes of PSX era FFs and older need to think 3 seconds more. I mean c'mon... if they have to do an HD 'remake' for FFVIII for example, they'll have to remodel all those backgrounds from 2D to 3D and resculpt the shitty 3D models for all characters and monsters. Can you imagine just how much work that would be? And I brought FFVIII up because it's the easiest out of PSX era FFs due to its more realistic approach in graphic style. FFVII and FFIX both use highly simplified and minimalist approach in graphic design and remaking that's gonna cost a hella lot more. That's saying NOTHING of the amount of work FFVI(a fully 2D game) would need.

   S-E or whoever's reporting the news shouldn't be using the word 'remake' because this is what I believe they'll do for this HD 'remake' of FFX.

   1. Crank resolution up to 1080p
   2. Put 16bit textures all over the place
   3. Use high-poly models for all gameplay and battle scenes instead of only the select few seconds that have camera close-ups in PS2
   4. Maybe rework the lip-synching
   5. Higher quality audio with multi-language streams(maybe even lossless)
   6. If they're generous, convert several FMV scenes into full in-game sequence(highly doubt this)
   7. Call it an HD 'remake' although it's just a mere upgrade(like increasing graphics settings in your PC games from 'shitty' to 'MAX RES AND 32xAA')
   8. ???
   9. PROFIT!

   As you can see, most of this HD 'remake' you're getting is putting higher setting to accomodate more powerful platforms. Same shit Konami is pulling off with Metal Gear HD and Silent Hill HD. It might look gorgeous enough for some, but in the end, they're only doing it because it's miles easier to do than with a PSX era game.

   You want to see a real example of a remake? Play the 1996 original Resident Evil and compare with the Gamecube version. THAT'S a remake.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   Wertyxious
   

   Isn't this more of a re-release in "HD" than an actual remake though?
   They're pretty much releasing the same game they did 10 years ago.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   jamesownsall
   

   werty101 said:
   Isn't this more of a re-release in "HD" than an actual remake though?
   They're pretty much releasing the same game they did 10 years ago.

   What I've been trying to say.

   They're only putting higher display resolution, prettier textures and higher poly-count models, better shadows and shading, and maybe depth of field. Basically just flipping several switches to take advantage of a stronger hardware, like putting higher video settings after upgrading your gfx card. I highly doubt they're do any significant changes to the overall look.

   Of course, you can expect some programming changes like better balance for Sphere Grid and maybe 2 more new abilities as new 'content', but meh, it's still not exactly the kind of remake any wretched FFVII fanboys would fap to death for.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   Poyo The Great
   

   With trophies?
   Yay.. I hope it doesn't need like 600+ hours of gameplay to reach 100%.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   Mizushima 水島
   

   idk about trophies but james makes alot of good points.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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   jamesownsall
   

   poyohebat said:
   With trophies?
   Yay.. I hope it doesn't need like 600+ hours of gameplay to reach 100%.

   Trophies, Achievement, whatever that shit is... Those are just Skinner's Box. They make you do repetitive things over and over again for rewards that aren't really there(which is just you showing your e-penis to other players who care).

   The ONLY thing that would make me want to own FFX's HD makeover is if they alter the released game so that the Affection system would reward you more than just riding snowmobile with the girl you like or have her throw the ball for Tidus' OverDrive. You know, like actually being able to kiss Lulu in that lake instead of the puffy Yuna. You know, THE WAY THEY ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

   ...I was gonna put Rikku too until I remembered that she was only 14 then, lol, but you get my point; being able to choose who Tidus ends with.

   Then again, I suppose it's impossible since FFX-2's already established who's with who. Which is why S-E still ain't gonna get my money.

   Posted 4 years ago #
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    fxc2
    

    Read about this on Kotaku just a while ago. Had to laugh up my sleeve a bit (hard cause I'm wearing a T-shirt atm,) because all the fans cry for a FFVII remake and Square Enix is just like: 'LOL, no.'

    Remakes seem to be all the rage at the moment, because people actually show interest in them and SE is probably planning to salvage some of the massive Final Fantasy wreck they've managed to pile up during the last couple years...

    Usually I'm cool with HD remakes, however I personally don't feel like buying a remake of a game that I've played 3 times through (twice in English, once the Jap audio PSX version,) some overall 150 hours just for the story and an additional 200 hours just for the hell of it.

    I don't think a remake of this type of a game is a very good idea, unless they remake VII. It's just funny how they deliberately keep bringing the company down.

    

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    Dark Mage
    

    jamesownsall said:

    Trophies, Achievement, whatever that shit is... Those are just Skinner's Box. They make you do repetitive things over and over again for rewards that aren't really there(which is just you showing your e-penis to other players who care).

    I hate the very concept of trophies it ruins the game.
    I'd rather have a game that is just simply enjoyable vs one that make you do stupid idiotic things.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Meester Kennedy
    

    Char said:
    Personally I hate the very concept of trophies it ruins the game.
    I'd rather have a game that is just simply enjoyable vs one that make you do stupid idiotic things.

    Trophies don't make you do anything. You just win them for accomplishing random things. It's a novel bonus that keeps me interested.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Trini D. King
    

    fxc2 said:

    

    As if FF7 needs a remake. lmao.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Lilith
    

    Gamecube Resident Evil remake was godly.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Meester Kennedy
    

    triniking1234 said:
    As if FF7 needs a remake. lmao.

    But there's no voice acting, and there are no cutscenes; just dialog sequences involving expressionless and blocky polygonal models.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    motaku96
    

    This news makes me happy.

    The fact is, FFX may be one of the easiest games to remake into HD. Remember X doesn't have overhead world map travel. All the locations have already been designed. All they have to do is clean it up a bit.

    If they remake any of the older ones in HD, it would be wasted unless they put a whole new design team on it to redesign the locales.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Dark Mage
    

    shomonan said:

    Trophies don't make you do anything. You just win them for accomplishing random things. It's a novel bonus that keeps me interested.

    Makes you do random repetitive things for a non existent reward.

    

    When I get bored with a game I prefer to be able to break out the mods and level editor.

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    Meester Kennedy
    

    Char said:
    Makes you do random repetitive things for a non existent reward.

    I just play the damn game; the trophies are just incidental.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Lilith
    

    Achievements are for the sad lonely people. That's the only way they relate to the outside world.

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    Peter Barton
    

    I want a remake of Final Fantasy 9.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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