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Adjusting the anime ban.

  1. So. That stupid anime/manga ban is likely going to screw up our shows sometime soon.
    If we were to reasonably modify the law in future, what changes would we make?
    Post ideas/opinions below.

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  2. I'm hoping the ban will force studios to make more series like Kino's Journey and Mushi Shi.

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  3. meh - ya - oh ' z

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  4. Ban everything.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. I´m certainly not an advocate of the ban and censorship in general, BUT it is aimed at material which is produced for minors - so if applied in a reasonable way it´s more or less ok with me. I was always a bit startled about the amount of violence and/or sexuality in some anime/manga which are not explicitly produced for an "mature" audience.

    By "mature" I mean something like 16+, coz I don´t think you must be 18 to be officially allowed to see gore and boobs. Also, there will always be ways to get your hands on adult stuff if you want to get it, so I don´t really get the outrage. I watched my first tentacle rape when I was 12 or 13 as well as some other stuff which is even blacklisted where I live (i.e. confiscated and not for sale at all).

    Anyways, there are two big faults in the ban:

    - it is explicitely targeted at anime, manga and games while ignoring 3d and novels. So it´s only natural that 2d fans feel victimised.

    - it tries to force the producers to censor their stuff, instead of delegating the responsibility to the distributors where should belong. Pretty convenient, trying to root out the "evil" at the very source, but wrong imo.

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  6. Rule 34 will always provide for those that need to sit there stroking a hard on so they can blow their load looking at something a lot of us really ain't desperately in need of seeing.

    The ban could be a good thing. Maybe it will force those that make anime, to actually make anime that doesn't require fan service pretending to be anime such that the anime is required to be better in the first place in order to get anyone to want to watch it.

    Then all the people making anime, which is really just ultra light hentai (because if it revolves around girls losing their clothes in ANY fashion possible, it's more hentai than anime), would lose the point of making it 'ultra light hentai' ie no cocks, no cunts, no pubic hair, no sperm shots, no actual fucking, and could just make it real porn in the first place.

    I've really enjoyed watching K-On. Not one panty shot that I can recall so far. No breasts exposed for any reason at all that I can remember.
    YOU might not like the show, but some of us DO.

    I'd have liked Ladies vs Butlers more, if in addition to all those great boob shots and bare asses, I could have seen the girls getting the occasional mouthful too, and the screwing they sure seemed to be wanting each episode. It would not be available on TV, but so what.

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  7. 1. Get rid of the ban completely
    2. Proper distribution to targeted audience

    Don't need to ban anything if it's handled and distributed correctly.

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  8. Gogetters said:
    1. Get rid of the ban completely
    2. Proper distribution to targeted audience

    Don't need to ban anything if it's handled and distributed correctly.

    What do you have in mind in the way of "proper distribution"?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. Proper distribution as in enforcing 18+ sales to 18+ people (whatever the rating system is) I don't know how they do it over there, but i assume they already do this.

    Can't stop people from getting their porn especially on the internet, but honestly that should be good enough...

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  10. I agree with Peter.

    Less panties, more actually decent anime.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. Lilith said:
    I agree with Peter.

    Less panties, more actually decent anime.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. Lilith said:
    I agree with Peter.

    more actually decent anime.

    with a few panty shots.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. I think we should ban pikachu like the op suggested.

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  14. motaku96 said:
    I think we should ban pikachu like the op suggested.

    And lose the whole Pokemon community? I don't think that's a good idea.

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  15. Unknown said:
    Ban everything.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. motaku96 said:
    I think we should ban pikachu like the op suggested.

    But Pikachu is neverused tier, not deserving of a ban. Ash's Pikachu, on the other hand, should be tested for performace-enhancing drugs.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. The Revision to the law needs to be outright repealed. It will not be good for industry at all. Most of you are looking at this from a writing perspective while you should be looking at this from a political and economic standpoint. The anime industry is business after all.

    Increased regulation on an industry is not good. The new revision puts all anime and manga for individuals underage under scrutiny by the Tokyo Government using vague and broad language. Yes, the people who will decide what kids should or should read will be the old guys in suits sitting at a desk all day. Not the parents or individuals themselves.

    This is where freedom diminishes. The consumer who buys the stuff has less say in what kind of content he wants in his manga/anime, and the mangaka can only provide what within the constraints set by the government. If the consumer doesn't believe the government approved manga is worth paying for, then their nothing more the mangaka can do because their hands are tied. This increase in government oversight will only bring more problems for a fledgling industry.

    To say this help anime be better is pretty foolish. When everyone says that anime is loaded with sex, cute girls, and little story and plot need to remember THAT ANIME IS A BUSINESS. The way anime is not the fault of the companies, but the otaku who buy it. The people here complaining aren't spending $50 per episode like the Japanese otaku. It's because they demand moe shows, companies supply them with moe shows under free market - and that's how it should be.

    For those are thinking maybe the bill won't be as bad as I say it will be and remain optimistic, are fooling yourselves. Fight this thing on principle! It might just be regulation of anime/manga but where does it stop? We let the Tokyo Metropolitan government decide what is appropriate for children to read, next will it be the food they eat? The education they receive? The careers they pursue? It's this entire centralized planning mentality that is destroying countries like Japan, and because most people just sit back and accept it, it continues and we all suffer.

    Bottom line, supporting this bill is supporting people like Ishihara who think they can prosecute thought crimes and train people like animals.It's not much different from the loli bans. We should let supply and demand decide what people what people should get, not the governor's office. It's all about freedom of choice.

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  18. I can;t believe i'm saying this but i agree with firetribe.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. Peter Barton said:
    I'm hoping the ban will force studios to make more series like Kino's Journey and Mushi Shi.

    basically summarized what I said in one of the many articles about it. So they banned loli rape and similar, fucking I dont care. It will force studios to actually sit down, write stories with actual plots and storyline and stop deepening on moe and tits to get raitings.

    eventually there will be another hot button issue and all the back and forth will cause the ban to be lifted, by then we should have a whole plethora of good series behind us. And in any case, there's this thing called the Internet, where people can, you know, post anything they want regardless of dumb laws that affect a single fucking city and shit/

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. just to clarify, I outright am against all types of censorship in any industry, I believe its the viewer/reader/listener who should decide if a piece of material is adequate for him/her and their kids.

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