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1. 

   Envoy Loves You
   

   So I gather this doesn't get asked much around these parts, but I'll chance it anyways.

   What's your take on the whole getting married and having children route that gets preached around so often?

   The reasons for having children that I've heard so far:
   1. I want someone to carry on the family name
   2. OMG babies are supa kawaii Emotional reasons related to our biological makeup
   3. I want someone to take care of me in my old age (financially/physically)
   4. I-It was an accident

   So which applies to you? *Inspired by the mating thread*

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2. 

   Kei-chan
   

   Someday for marriage...maybe. Kids...1 or 2 max. Don't know a real reason atm, don't think i'll have one till later on.

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3. 

   King Tiger
   

   I'm content with my 2D commitment as it is :3

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4. 

   Ambiguous
   

   Hmm.. I do want kids some day. It would be nice if I get visited at the grave when I'm long gone xD. And I wouldn't want to die alone. :/

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5. 

   Mistress Antika
   

   I'm not really interested in marriage, so I don't know about that. Maybe if the right person comes my way I guess.

   But I am sure that I want to have a baby and that's when I can afford it.

   The reason to have a baby is simply.. No idea, I just want one. Sure babies are really cute but that's not the only reason. I just feel like having one. (Simply being cute isn't good enough reason)

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6. 

   ☆ БОSS ☆
   

   I really want a daughter and if I can't find a wife, adopt.

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7. 

   a bag of shit
   

   I refuse to marry under the current family law system which is inherently anti-male.

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8. 

   H-Ero
   

   I don't want to get married though I do want a girlfriend that I could spend my life with (so a pseudo-marriage i guess). I've always wanted a daughter but I've got terrible genetics that I would hate to pass on so I think I would rather adopt then have a child of my own. I wouldn't like to have a son since I have a hard time feeling any emotional attachment to guys (plus guys get on my nerves a lot easier than girls do).

   I don't think I have any specific reason for wanting a child, it's just that I've wanted a daughter for as long as I can remember.

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   StefanKinoshita
   

   I put I don't want kids because that is how I feel at the moment, though I do realise this may change over time.

   I think I would like to marry because I think it'd be romantic... but I do think you can have commitment without marriage and I wouldn't be against it if a girl I was with didn't want to get married.

   

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10. 

    Sukunai
    

    Made this choice 25 years ago.

    My son is 16, great kid.

    There are many good reasons to get married, a few reasons some offer against it.

    I don't support growing old alone. The government will tell you you are legally married after a point especially if you have kids with the person. So the license is more of a personal statement deal to the one you marry than anything else.

    For those of you still young, it's hard to explain, as it's more a stage of growing up and getting older. No one really 'wants' to get married and have kids much while they are still one themselves to some extent. The urge isn't all that strong till you hit your mid 20s.

    It's very rare I meet anyone that truly manages to maintain a desire to remain single or childless. It's part of being human to want to have a family.

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11. 

    Uncommon0taku
    

    I have a daughter.
    But she's a love child, between friends. It was more her idea (the momma) coz she liked me out of all the other dorky guys she knew while growing up. But it turned out that she prefered other girls.
    Later when she had settled down with her significant other, they wanted to have a kid.
    I was singled out as being the genetic donor.

    My daughter is all growed up and getting her residency to be a physician.
    We're friends, she is fully aware that I'm her papa, and her two mommas haven't brainwashed her like some folks might think. The mommas and me are very very proud of how she turned out.

    But If I had met a girl that suited me, I would probably settle down. Although it would be doubtful that we would have kids.
    Mainly because of the way the world had been evolving. I wouldn't want any potential offspring to have the future that they would be inheriting now.
    The next three decades is going to be really difficult, because of the ecconomic and political transitions the human civilization is experiencing right now.

    The world is already over populated, and with natural stocks of certain spiecies going extinct. Along with the new energy crisis of the 21st century. Lots of other variables are coming into play in the last 10 years and in the next 10-20 years.
    It isn't going to be pretty.
    I'm just doing as much as I can to lessen the burden for those who will be carrying on.
    So their future isn't so be troublesome.

    My legacy is for my daughter and for you guys who have yet to find what your destiny will be.
    ^_^

    I don't think I'll be growing old alone, since I have friends who want to set up an old folks home when or if any of us should manage to get that old. Its something thats been set up, and so its only accruing in trust for that time when it happens.
    Only problem is I don't know if I can bring all my cats to this place. I might eventually just have a cat and a doggie.
    Then there is all my otaku stuff, tools, and junk that I'm collected over the years. sighs

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12. 

    Rick
    

    Fatalistic said:
    I refuse to marry under the current family law system which is inherently anti-male.

    I voted for "I want someone to carry on the family name" but I believe that there are deep, deep reasons why each human should be connected to the future by means of physical offspring - when I say "carry on the name" I mean "carry on a lot of things." I'm past the age at which males produce optimal sperm. Further, any children I might have in old age would be at high risk for birth defects.

    The harsh reality is that a lot of folks won't have children.

    Let me focus on the male perspective for a moment:

    A lot of men have no lovers, no children, no hope of having children.

    Those men have nothing to lose. Death would be a pleasant escape.

    The coming violence will not be chivalrous.

    

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13. 

    Uncommon0taku
    

    yourfriend said:

    The coming violence will not be chivalrous.

    Buht it'll be fun to go down shoot'in!!

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14. 

    Envoy Loves You
    

    yourfriend said:

    when I say "carry on the name" I mean "carry on a lot of things."

    I'm curious to know about these "things".

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15. 

    Rick
    

    the-envoy said:

    I'm curious to know about these "things".

    1 - I have various genetic gifts that are useful for civilized human groups. Children would carry on these survival traits.
    2 - I have various physical resources that I could devote to nurturing a family. Without children, my physical wealth will be scattered.
    3 - I have the capacity to put down roots in a community. However, without a mate and children, I won't. Thus, children carry on my capacity to stabilize social networks.
    4 - I have various sentimental notions of my genes that could never be taught to a robot or to an academy of scholars. If I die childless, I die without having passed on my quirky knowledge of what it is like to live with my genes.
    5 - I have sentimental fondness for family history. For instance, my mother's father was humorous, but my father's father was quiet. No one will bother to remember such things if I die childless.

    There are various endowments that don't require children. For example, I have seen a big chunk of 20th century history, and I can write a book about it, and if the book is popular, I can die knowing that I have done my part to pass on useful information. But a book is no substitute for a child.

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    Misakite
    

    I want to get married, have a bunch of kids I can shower my fatherly love onto (not in the perverted sense. Not in the least)

    I dunno, I find kids adorable, and I'm looking forward to being a father in the future.

    Hopefully I marry a great woman so when I get old I can tell my kids and grandkids how me and her met.

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17. 

    spoon
    

    yourfriend said:

    really don't understand the group that make a big deal about passing on genes and etc. i can understand not wanting to pass on troublesome genes but otherwise it's all crazy talk imho.

    as for me, i'd only bring a child into this world if i knew i could provide for it a decent life. which is impossible as reality sucks; i'm not one to cause another to suffer for no real reason.

    wouldn't mind adopting though, but that will also probably be impossible due to state regs and etc.

    this thread reminds me of the bit where Ace ask's Garp whether it would be better if he had never lived. and Garp goes something like: that's something you can only know after having lived.

    also,

    

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18. 

    Rick
    

    Man dedicated to meaningless "pickup" sex allegedly shot woman:
    http://www.ktvz.com/news/26342408/detail.html

    Fifteen Mexican men dead in drug war:
    http://www.chinapost.com.tw/international/americas/2011/01/09/286932/Bodies-beheaded.htm

    Unmarried young man shoots Congressperson:
    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10514

    Unmarried young men do not make for stable societies.

    Edit: Aside from unmarried male violence, there are other signs of Western society losing cohesion and falling apart:

    John Derbyshire claims that his religion is "loyalty to his tribe"
    http://takimag.com/article/loyalty_to_the_tribe/print

    Staff at a rape crisis center claim that there is a lack of emergency calls:
    http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_campus_rape.html

    A male concerned with false accusations elaborates the above link:
    http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/01/views-of-prominent-member-of-sexual.html

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19. 

    Nin
    

    I don't really want children or marriage, so what I think I'll do is
    I'll let Antika have my children and she can take care of them while I live a happy bachelor life. And when those kids want to know who their daddy is, I won't be a sour prick- they can come and visit and we'll go do fun things together and all, but just not too often, you know?

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20. 

    spoon
    

    yourfriend said:

    just wait for robots.

    Ninsheart said:

    haha, at least you're being honest.

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