Sankaku Complex Forums Topic: Engrish, do you speak it?

Sankaku Complex Forums Topic: Engrish, do you speak it? http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Sankaku Complex Forums en Wed, 22 May 2013 23:04:38 +0000 nashi on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826625 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:17:55 +0000 nashi 826625@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> This is why Tsunamis happen. They're God's punishment for their faggotry. Ironically, the North Koreans seem to be the best English speakers in East Asia. </blockquote> OK, I found you have some northkorean terrorists, so are familiar with haarp that's said to caused Tsunami on March 11th that caused casualties. Then you are going to be kept under surveillance by Japanese public security. Zplus on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826624 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:12:09 +0000 Zplus 826624@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> To be fair, I can see the slang, technical jargon and Roy's Irish accent being stumbling blocks. English-language comedy can be a problem for non-natives. </blockquote> True, but even those who understand the technology jokes need the subtitles. I guess I chose a bad example, I meant they're only able to understand New Yorker American English programmes without problem even if they have studied a few years in countries like England or Australia. Not that they can't communicate, but for some reason they keep relying on subtitles when watching anything, caused by the fact that most foreigners tend to speak their own language even in another country and only care to get good marks. <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> Great. So English is their equivalent of Latin? </blockquote> Doesn't anyone figure that out by watching sufficient animes? Kudeh on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826619 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:54:24 +0000 Kudeh 826619@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kanika said:</cite> This thread reminds me of that one short in Ika-Musume season 2, where they had to get a different seiyuu to play Cindy speaking English. </blockquote> Wait, she was a Seiyuu? It sounded like they just grabbed some foreigner off the street with no regard for acting experience. <blockquote><cite>zetaplus said:</cite> For Japanese, Koreans and Chinese even if they pass with an IELTS score of 8.5 they still need subtitles to watch the IT Crowd. Majority of people are clearly only learning English to get high scores in exams, meanwhile we get Japanese saying "eto" every two sentences when speaking English. </blockquote> To be fair, I can see the slang, technical jargon and Roy's Irish accent being stumbling blocks. English-language comedy can be a problem for non-natives. <blockquote><cite>H-Ero said:</cite> From the way my professor made it sound, most Japanese just treat English as novelty words to use with each other, which explains the abundance of random engrish that they use. </blockquote> Great. So English is their equivalent of Latin? H-Ero on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826614 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:41:14 +0000 H-Ero 826614@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> Wait! So, when the Japanese learn English, their primary concern is communicating with each other? </blockquote> From the way my professor made it sound, most Japanese just treat English as novelty words to use with each other, which explains the abundance of random engrish that they use. Kan Ika on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826602 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:10:54 +0000 Kan Ika 826602@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ This thread reminds me of that one short in Ika-Musume season 2, where they had to get a different seiyuu to play Cindy speaking English. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_0zYcj-43E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_0zYcj-43E</a> Zplus on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826601 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:05:28 +0000 Zplus 826601@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ For Japanese, Koreans and Chinese even if they pass with an IELTS score of 8.5 they still need subtitles to watch the IT Crowd. Majority of people are clearly only learning English to get high scores in exams, meanwhile we get Japanese saying "eto" every two sentences when speaking English. Kudeh on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826599 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:48:53 +0000 Kudeh 826599@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ This is why Tsunamis happen. They're God's punishment for their faggotry. Ironically, the North Koreans seem to be the best English speakers in East Asia. Kan Ika on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826595 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:42:24 +0000 Kan Ika 826595@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> I'd also question the quality of English teaching in Japan. From what I hear, all the teachers are either English speakers who are unqualified to teach, or teachers who are unqualified to speak English. I've heard horror stories of English speakers going to work in Japanese schools and having to speak Japanese to the Japanese-born English teachers because they couldn't understand a word they were saying. </blockquote> I don't have much experience with Japan's English-language education system, but if it's similar to South Korea's, then this is definitely true. One of my aunts teaches English there, and while she's fluent enough (I can converse with her just fine), her fellow English teachers had to constantly ask her "what did he say" when I tried talking with them (in "unaccented" 'Hi, I'm from Iowa,' American English). Koreans tend to just copy whatever the Japanese do if it's "good enough"... unfortunately, when the source you're copying from thinks "good enough" means passing exams and inserting random Engrish into Japanese conversation, "good enough" isn't exactly useful. Kudeh on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826593 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:40:37 +0000 Kudeh 826593@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>H-Ero said:</cite> My Japanese professor told us that her English teachers all taught her engrish and not actual English, because ordinary Japanese people wouldn't be able to understand them if they could correctly pronounce English words. </blockquote> Wait! So, when the Japanese learn English, their primary concern is communicating with each other? Can we please nuke them again? H-Ero on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826586 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:19:22 +0000 H-Ero 826586@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>kudichan said:</cite> I'd also question the quality of English teaching in Japan. From what I hear, all the teachers are either English speakers who are unqualified to teach, or teachers who are unqualified to speak English. I've heard horror stories of English speakers going to work in Japanese schools and having to speak Japanese to the Japanese-born English teachers because they couldn't understand a word they were saying. </blockquote> My Japanese professor told us that her English teachers all taught her engrish and not actual English, because ordinary Japanese people wouldn't be able to understand them if they could correctly pronounce English words. She didn't realize how badly she was mispronouncing her words until she moved to Canada and nobody could understand her when she was asking for directions to McDonald's. Kudeh on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826572 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:46:15 +0000 Kudeh 826572@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ This is actually quite an interesting topic, so I commend this case of necromancy. On a note relate to one of the reasons given for poor English language ability in Japan: are the people who say that the Japanese shouldn't be expected to learn English because it's "unnecessary" the same ones who complain the Brits and Americans are lazy and insular for being monolingual? Just wondering. And people need to realise that there's a big difference between passing a test in a subject and actually being good at it. In Britain, we have a very exam-oriented education system and there are endless exams at school; the children are very good at taking them and results improve every year. But our children still can't read or count. I'd also question the quality of English teaching in Japan. From what I hear, all the teachers are either English speakers who are unqualified to teach, or teachers who are unqualified to speak English. I've heard horror stories of English speakers going to work in Japanese schools and having to speak Japanese to the Japanese-born English teachers because they couldn't understand a word they were saying. Poyo The Great on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826531 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:12:04 +0000 Poyo The Great 826531@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>ocha said:</cite> W-what's singlish? </blockquote> Singaporean English perhaps? I don't like singlish~ Sounds gay~ Mere on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826529 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:10:40 +0000 Mere 826529@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ God damn it, Ocha. お茶 on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-826528 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:09:48 +0000 お茶 826528@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>baronight said:</cite> engrish suck, i find singlish is the best language for normal conversation or even tsukkomi </blockquote> W-what's singlish? Geno on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-769571 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 10:23:01 +0000 Geno 769571@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>palmtop-tiger said:</cite> Egnlish is better. </blockquote> No. Englihs is. In a related note: I speak english [not my native language], but since I spend more time in front of my computer instead of actual people, I ended up being better at written english than spoken. I stutter sometimes I guess the same applies to everyone. Speaking a foreign language is an acquired skill and will take practice or constant use to hone and develop. Engrish is okay I guess. Baronight on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633&page=2#post-769051 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:24:19 +0000 Baronight 769051@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ engrish suck, i find singlish is the best language for normal conversation or even tsukkomi Homu on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-769027 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:10:28 +0000 Homu 769027@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Say what again! renstalon on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-769026 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:08:20 +0000 renstalon 769026@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Lilith said:</cite> highry amujing* </blockquote> hairi amyujingu* Uncommon0taku on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-769008 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:05:09 +0000 Uncommon0taku 769008@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Lilith said:</cite> highry amujing* </blockquote> Wythe dis ^^ The thread is officially derailed. Lilith on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-769007 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:00:53 +0000 Lilith 769007@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>moemerodii said:</cite> I find Engrish highly amusing. </blockquote> highry amujing* Izumi_Chan on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768999 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 11:42:36 +0000 Izumi_Chan 768999@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Hazandyne said:</cite> My part-time job is tutoring Japanese students English online, and it surprises me how proficient most of them are with grammar construction and usage. They're just unable to speak it properly because they have no one to practice with. You can know all the tricks but not be able to get the message across because your environment doesn't allow for regular immersion. The advanced educational system clause doesn't apply to all. Every country has it's share of ne'er-do-wells and stubborn mules who refuse to study the language properly. </blockquote> OMG CAN YOU TEACH MEH! IM SO BAD AT ENGLISH your mah savior ו═╣═flood══› on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768845 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:53:44 +0000 ו═╣═flood══› 768845@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Engrish is amusing. Slang Japanese is pitiful and humiliating. I wonder if the Japanese find their country's Engrish just as humiliating. AffuuCat on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768798 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:55:08 +0000 AffuuCat 768798@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Egnlish is the only thing I know how to speak. Palmtop Titan on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768797 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:44:01 +0000 Palmtop Titan 768797@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Egnlish is better. Mato Kuroi on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768791 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:02:05 +0000 Mato Kuroi 768791@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ I find Engrish highly amusing. Antiveli on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768784 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:29:09 +0000 Antiveli 768784@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Engrish is awesome. Why challenge your fate when you push the rush of exciting limit? renstalon on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768753 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:31:39 +0000 renstalon 768753@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>giascle said:</cite> That's just a dumb thing to say. English is the international language of business; why would a businessman, of all people, think that way? That's like a politician saying it's useless to learn French. </blockquote> Very true. But it is a sad representation of a lot of the Japanese that believe they have some sort of handicap when learning a foreign language. Hopefully all the changes in the educational system coming soon will help alleviate the problem. General Jack D. Ripper on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768717 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:37:13 +0000 General Jack D. Ripper 768717@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Ninsheart said:</cite> Best politician ever. </blockquote> Reminds me, it was Ishihara that said something similar to this about the French language Nin on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768621 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 06:31:35 +0000 Nin 768621@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>giascle said:</cite> That's like a politician saying it's useless to learn French. </blockquote> Best politician ever. motaku96 on "Engrish, do you speak it?" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=11633#post-768608 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 05:07:07 +0000 motaku96 768608@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ I like to pretend speaking engrish sometimes. It's fun.