Sankaku Complex Forums Topic: Japanese Language Help

Sankaku Complex Forums Topic: Japanese Language Help http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Sankaku Complex Forums en Sat, 25 May 2013 10:26:48 +0000 Sutefuwani on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=32#post-1030420 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 02:02:24 +0000 Sutefuwani 1030420@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ I get what <blockquote><cite>juno016 said:</cite> Hmm... "Learn Japanese in the fastest, easiest and most fun way" Anything that claims this is automatically out in my book for serious study. If you want to know exactly what you're saying to people without letting off stereotypes or creating misunderstandings, the best way to learn the language is in intensive study of grammar, culture, and direct experience. Books like JSL (by Jorden and Noda, accompanied with their proper JWL and such) are a little outdated, but they work best in context because they don't just teach you how to say things--they teach you how to empower your thinking to that of a native and get across real suggestive meanings with your words, too--something that only sounds a bit much to those who haven't experienced problems with it before. It's the difference between asking for what you want and getting what you want... and asking for what you want and getting the exact opposite, despite being told kindly that they can get it for you, no problem. Or making yourself sound like the representative of a company instead of the lowly worker you really are. Or just sounding like a foreigner who is on vacation in Japan when you've been living there for 10 years and beyond. These things count. Unless, of course, your intent is to only learn it for the sake of anime, games, etc. or to actually just pay a visit and make friends you'll never talk to again or something temporary and/or of small priority to you. If that's the case, then go right ahead. I think that's what these programs are made for, assuming one isn't THAT serious about their study. "Fast" and "easy" do not accompany any kind of fluency. I only give this advice because I've come across people who take this kind of thing as "serious study" and either eventually give up because it's not working out, or they think it is working out and they only make themselves sound foolish when they put what they know into practice. </blockquote> I get what you're saying, and I was kind of expecting something along the lines of what you said. Though, I've been listening to their podcast and it does exactly what you described as "what they don't do", it doesn't just go through the basic, formal grammar/wording but it gives you an insight in how they really speak in japan, through various voiced scenarios and so on. That's why I wondered if their site had that same approach as their podcast. It's the same people so why not. But i still wanna know what I'm getting before I subscribe, so I wanna hear from someone who has. Juno on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=32#post-1030201 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:10:53 +0000 Juno 1030201@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Hmm... "Learn Japanese in the fastest, easiest and most fun way" Anything that claims this is automatically out in my book for serious study. If you want to know exactly what you're saying to people without letting off stereotypes or creating misunderstandings, the best way to learn the language is in intensive study of grammar, culture, and direct experience. Books like JSL (by Jorden and Noda, accompanied with their proper JWL and such) are a little outdated, but they work best in context because they don't just teach you how to say things--they teach you how to empower your thinking to that of a native and get across real suggestive meanings with your words, too--something that only sounds a bit much to those who haven't experienced problems with it before. It's the difference between asking for what you want and getting what you want... and asking for what you want and getting the exact opposite, despite being told kindly that they can get it for you, no problem. Or making yourself sound like the representative of a company instead of the lowly worker you really are. Or just sounding like a foreigner who is on vacation in Japan when you've been living there for 10 years and beyond. These things count. Unless, of course, your intent is to only learn it for the sake of anime, games, etc. or to actually just pay a visit and make friends you'll never talk to again or something temporary and/or of small priority to you. If that's the case, then go right ahead. I think that's what these programs are made for, assuming one isn't THAT serious about their study. "Fast" and "easy" do not accompany any kind of fluency. I only give this advice because I've come across people who take this kind of thing as "serious study" and either eventually give up because it's not working out, or they think it is working out and they only make themselves sound foolish when they put what they know into practice. Sutefuwani on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=32#post-1030140 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:52:11 +0000 Sutefuwani 1030140@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ i do คภєк๏ on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=32#post-1030138 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:40:54 +0000 คภєк๏ 1030138@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>sutefuwani said:</cite> Have anyone subscribed to japanesepop101.com, was it worth it? </blockquote> Do you mean JapanesePod101.com? Sutefuwani on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-1030137 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:34:01 +0000 Sutefuwani 1030137@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Have anyone subscribed to japanesepod101.com, was it worth it? renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-917141 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:46:41 +0000 renstalon 917141@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>fenrilra said:</cite> =0 you people are awesome! i really tried very hard T_T! thx so much! pikkamakk! Aneko! =D </blockquote> Glad you got your question answered. Good to see interest in the language. klon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916778 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:45:42 +0000 klon 916778@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ =0 you people are awesome! i really tried very hard T_T! thx so much! pikkamakk! Aneko! =D คภєк๏ on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916775 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:38:02 +0000 คภєк๏ 916775@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Try "Kimi To", written by Kitano Jun and performed by Mirei. Unconfirmed. Edit: confirmed via ninja. pikkamakk on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916773 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:36:32 +0000 pikkamakk 916773@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <a href="http://www.voiceblog.jp/mirei729/" rel="nofollow">http://www.voiceblog.jp/mirei729/</a> Kimi to - by Mirei klon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916764 Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:22:29 +0000 klon 916764@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ hope you can help me out! my friends couldn't and neither google knows the answer D=! you see i watched a horror/suspense animation on youtube called "urban legend hikiko" and i like lots, LOTS, the ending song. here is the vid link and the time where the song title appears is 40:19. would you be so kind to tell me the name of the song? and if you could read the artist name would be cool to know it :3! i've searched like crazy D= help please! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClajoUlw53s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClajoUlw53s</a> renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916540 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:32:37 +0000 renstalon 916540@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Glad to be of service. Bumpermelon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916537 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:00:53 +0000 Bumpermelon 916537@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>renstalon said:</cite> おまえを必ず倒す！魚を構えろ！ omae wo kanarazu taosu! sakana wo kamaero! However, you must make it clear whether you are "wielding" (kamaeru) the fish or "preparing" (junbi suru) it for cooking. The verbs are different in Japanese. </blockquote> Officially my new favorite thread. renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916534 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:20:09 +0000 renstalon 916534@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>bumpermelon said:</cite> How do I say? "I must defeat you now, so prepare your fish!" </blockquote> おまえを必ず倒す！魚を構えろ！ omae wo kanarazu taosu! sakana wo kamaero! However, you must make it clear whether you are "wielding" (kamaeru) the fish or "preparing" (junbi suru) it for cooking. The verbs are different in Japanese. Bumpermelon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916532 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:52:16 +0000 Bumpermelon 916532@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ How do I say? "I must defeat you now, so prepare your fish!" renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916531 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:25:49 +0000 renstalon 916531@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Another great homonym in Japanese. 産む (umu) - to give birth 膿む (umu) - to become infected (and produce puss) renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-916527 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:08:26 +0000 renstalon 916527@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>sutefuwani said:</cite> 私はにじゅうさんさいよ。 </blockquote> それはすごいですね。（笑） だが、どうして「わたくし」が「私」になって、二十三歳が「にじゅうさんさい」になっているのかね？ Sutefuwani on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-915948 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:42:05 +0000 Sutefuwani 915948@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>renstalon said:</cite> 関節が曲がれてよかったですね。 </blockquote> 私はにじゅうさんさいよ。 renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-915880 Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:13:05 +0000 renstalon 915880@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ 関節が曲がれてよかったですね。 คภєк๏ on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898270 Sat, 19 May 2012 06:57:52 +0000 คภєк๏ 898270@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ "We fixed your joints." giascle on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898265 Sat, 19 May 2012 06:47:06 +0000 giascle 898265@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Is <blockquote> You've been infected with this disease by mysterious powers, so you can easily bend your joints now!</blockquote> still too long? pikkamakk on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898220 Sat, 19 May 2012 05:09:51 +0000 pikkamakk 898220@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>Vegio said:</cite> also, where did shinpai ga naku go? </blockquote> <blockquote>You've been infected with this disease by mysterious powers, so you can bend your joints(without a problem) now!</blockquote> It would go somewhere there, but that would make the sentence too long for that bubble. Trimead on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898123 Fri, 18 May 2012 21:01:06 +0000 Trimead 898123@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ well she didn't send me an email reply back but, i think it's safe to say that i (at least) inspired her to draw this: <a href="http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27333402" rel="nofollow">http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27333402</a> Sylphin on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898088 Fri, 18 May 2012 18:48:13 +0000 Sylphin 898088@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>pilu said:</cite> <blockquote>You've been infected with this disease by mysterious powers, but worry not, you can bend your joints now!</blockquote> </blockquote> Fixed.. Vegio on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=31#post-898087 Fri, 18 May 2012 18:47:41 +0000 Vegio 898087@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ didn't you go to sl- oh, okay, I won't. คภєк๏ on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=30#post-898086 Fri, 18 May 2012 18:46:04 +0000 คภєк๏ 898086@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Don't worry about it. Vegio on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=30#post-898083 Fri, 18 May 2012 18:44:15 +0000 Vegio 898083@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>pilu said:</cite> <blockquote>You've been infected with this disease by mysterious powers, so you can bend your joints now!</blockquote> </blockquote> also, where did shinpai ga naku go? คภєк๏ on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=30#post-898051 Fri, 18 May 2012 16:58:51 +0000 คภєк๏ 898051@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Ha! pikkamakk on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=30#post-898049 Fri, 18 May 2012 16:52:58 +0000 pikkamakk 898049@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Got it! <blockquote>You've been infected with this disease by mysterious powers, so you can bend you're joints now!</blockquote> pikkamakk on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805#post-898037 Fri, 18 May 2012 16:17:33 +0000 pikkamakk 898037@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ Cross-post from the request thread: <blockquote><cite>pilu said:</cite> Does anyone know what this sentence means? 不思議な　力で病気に伝染される　心配が無く　関節も曲がる！ Source: <a href="http://g.e-hentai.org/s/86d460a1f4/432600-4" rel="nofollow">http://g.e-hentai.org/s/86d460a1f4/432600-4</a> </blockquote> I only need that one sentence. renstalon on "Japanese Language Help" http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=10805&page=30#post-888148 Sat, 05 May 2012 15:43:36 +0000 renstalon 888148@http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/ <blockquote><cite>maid said:</cite> You were indeed missed. Are you still living in Japan? </blockquote> Hello, maid. Yes, I am still here in Japan, but my Internet life has been neglected. Mainly due to technical issues, but I think I'll be on a bit more now. <blockquote><cite>moemerodii said:</cite> Oh wow 久しぶり！ </blockquote> そうですね。ご無沙汰しております。マトちゃんもお元気そうでよかったです。