Sankaku Complex Forums Topic: The Meaninglessness of Life

Vicious on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Vicious — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:29:08 +0000

Isnt Moe Blob about female empowerment and self confidence while visually serving otaku something to fap to :P i'm pretty sure it is, if i have my moe, and cultural character development right.

muteKi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

muteKi — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:17:10 +0000

Yeah, suffice it to say that man-in-hat basically has the same approach to the question that I do. <a href="http://xkcd.com/167/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/167/</a>

Otaku Girl on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Otaku Girl — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:54:27 +0000

<blockquote><cite>muteKi said:</cite> Moeblob anime as a metaphor for life in general. God damn if it's not the most meaningless thing ever, but it's pretty fun along the way. </blockquote> That was pretty clever. You just won yourself a moeblob.

SaruDa on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

SaruDa — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:13:20 +0000

<blockquote><cite>hiroy_raind said:</cite> My meaning of life would probably to "Survive the ordeal" and "make your dreams come true"... </blockquote> So any Seinen then?

hiroy_raind on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

hiroy_raind — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:05:36 +0000

My meaning of life would probably to "Survive the ordeal" and "make your dreams come true"...

muteKi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

muteKi — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:12:39 +0000

Moeblob anime as a metaphor for life in general. God damn if it's not the most meaningless thing ever, but it's pretty fun along the way.

Envoy Loves You on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Envoy Loves You — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:36:31 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Alessa said:</cite> The purpose of life is to have offspring. That's it. THE GRAND SECRET TO THE MEANING O' LIFE. If it has nothing to do with your survival, the siring of heirs, or the rearing of these fruits of your loins then it is just to preoccupy you during the copious amount of extra time you have. Human lives really are far too long. When it comes down to it pretty much everything humans do including overworking is just a distraction because you aren't getting laid. </blockquote> Indeed. Although I would call that the objective instead of "meaning".

Envoy Loves You on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Envoy Loves You — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:16:32 +0000

<blockquote><cite>solace said:</cite> I gave up on looking for a meaning in life years ago. I mainly just live out of pure habit. </blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Azarius said:</cite> Saying that life has no meaning is just an erroneous as saying that we live for God, Krishna, peace or whatever. The true question here is: What does "meaning" even mean? Which is a paradox. Meaning is a concept that mankind created, and therefore the "meaning of life" could be interpreted to be in accordance to that, and so be to "create a better world for us humans" or something of the like. But that would indeed be totally subjective. But can you assume that subjectiveness can be truly absent from reasoning that originates from a human being? You can - and you uncounsciously will - redefine "meaning" to fit your vision of the world. This taken into account, life has a meaning, or doesn't, or both... what does this even mean after all? </blockquote> I second both of these. I used to be real philosophical about things up till 1st year of uni, then realized that looking for absolute meaning itself is absolutely meaningless. Relative (temporary) meaning is quite important though.

solace on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

solace — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:25:16 +0000

I gave up on looking for a meaning in life years ago. I mainly just live out of pure habit.

Idle Hands on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Idle Hands — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:47:51 +0000

If life has no meaning, perhaps that is for the best. It leaves us to find our own meaning, rather than have it forced upon us.

Bass on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Bass — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:25:41 +0000

Well, to me, the meaning of life is to learn something new everyday, to discover some revolutionary shit by mistake, to create something that will not have a meaning to others but something that fills you inside. And I think that life would be meaningless if you lost your will to go on, simply put, you would only be a lump in life.

Bass on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Bass — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:21:52 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Alessa said:</cite> The purpose of life is to have offspring. That's it. </blockquote> So I don't have a purpose then......

SaruDa on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

SaruDa — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:55:00 +0000

If mankind manages to cure every existing disease before we can change the DNA of our children at will, the human race is fucked.

BANNED_fei on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

BANNED_fei — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:38:07 +0000

<blockquote><cite>maga said:</cite> My meaning of life is that as long as there is anime and lolicon is legal life is worth living. </blockquote> What she said

Archer112. on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Archer112. — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:42:44 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Tzion said:</cite> On second thought, I think it's to be fruitful and multiply. </blockquote> But only after a consumated marrage.

Tzion on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Tzion — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:42:10 +0000

On second thought, I think it's to be fruitful and multiply.

Vicious on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Vicious — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:38:25 +0000

JimmyLuong does bring an interesting poitnt that i've thought about. people do suffer and people die before their time, not just in Africa. That is based on Human Fault and affect. That in itself is not important. If every Human being on this earth is allowed to achieve freedom and live life to their fullest. If humanity is able to reach this benchmark of life without restriction. What would a free environment mean for humanity, would it be a next step towards evolution, would it be a final destruction. If all life is allowed to foster and grow, and the individuals impact on the bigger picture is fully realized, will there be something to be revealed as humanity hopes or will there be nothing which will start the beginning of the end. Those consequences alone would not answer the question, but it does add to the equation to be solved. The Path of Humanity right now and for hundreds of years, is to become one, there is no denying that. The leaders of our history work to move towards that path. Real Wars are the ultimate rebuke or advancement towards that goal, with individuals seeking power losing, and interestingly the religious movement of all humanity winning. There is no individual in the religious movement. It is the Mindset of the human race that happyness will lead to a better place. Religion merely harnessess the individuals will towards a common goal.Just had to make that clear. SO while some including myself try to find the answers to life on their own. It is cannot be ignored that people have already made a decision and humanity will is already progressing towards unity. Whatever is achieved by this will be interesting. Thats why i like your perspective JimmyLuong, because while people generally don't care about others who are suffering, the thing is that something is being done for the sake of a common goal. The Individual is not important until they decide they have the power of live. What they do with that power is up to them, whether action, thought, or even to do nothing except adapt. It still has an impact. P.s. Philosophers can suck mai dick.

sycamore on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

sycamore — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:26:40 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Azarius said:</cite> @ muteKi, Care to start a thread about one of these? ^^ </blockquote> This. Also I believe this picture has some relevance to the thread.

Azarius on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Azarius — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:18:26 +0000

@ muteKi, Care to start a thread about one of these? ^^

muteKi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

muteKi — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:50:30 +0000

Some interesting insights in this thread here. For me it was one of those questions I felt I had little to no reason to answer, to be honest. There are many more interesting philosophy questions out there.

Archer112. on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Archer112. — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:39:31 +0000

<blockquote><cite>JimmyLuong said:</cite> </blockquote> I have no idea what this topic is about, but nice boat you have there.

SaruDa on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

SaruDa — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:36:36 +0000

Sorry, can't let the thread end on that note. I wouldn't be able to live with myself. @Ukonkivi: Well said, I think that's essentially a longer version of what I was trying to say. On the other hand, I don't want to live forever. If the scariest thing in the world to me is an eternity of suffering, then the second scariest thing is an eternity of happiness. Ennui is my natural enemy. I'm okay with that though, and it has come to shape what I view as my own personal meaning in life, without hampering my ability to accept that others will have other meanings which are just as valid as my own.

JimmyLuong on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

JimmyLuong — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:43:39 +0000

To Ukonkivi Well yeah you are right,i also do enjoy debating about philosophy so it kinda of make my days brighter when you have intelligent people who you can speak with. And you are getting it wrong ,i have never care or give a damn about african and they situation but it was just a reason to support my argument. Through my current life is kinda of not so great to have a meaning but just like everyone i try to find one for it and live at very least keep living...... *And so our hero look into the beautiful sun set* END

fxc2 on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

fxc2 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:42:33 +0000

I think I know what you mean. Not all people, but most probably wonder about it at least once in their lifetime. At a quick thought: If all the people would come to the conclusion that their life is a meaningless one. The whole human race would then be meaningless as well. Not that anybody knows the meaning behind our existence as an individual or as a society, just that it's somewhat easier to realize on a bigger scale.

Ukonkivi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Ukonkivi — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:39:42 +0000

<blockquote><cite>JimmyLuong said:</cite> Is not pretending,what i'm trying to say is that you should be glad that you are still alive. </blockquote> But we're talking about whether life has meaning here or not. Which it doesn't. And realizing life doesn't have meaning just makes you smarter, not enjoy life less. <blockquote><cite>JimmyLuong said:</cite> If life is meaningless then asking a question about it meaning is also meaningless? </blockquote> Essentially, it is. All forms of human behavior are of subjective origin and meaningless. But there's nothing wrong with subjectivity. <blockquote><cite>JimmyLuong said:</cite> but then i don't even know what the point of this tread </blockquote> The reason humans tend to do most things, fun. Even all areas of educational or academic topic and thought come back to an egoistic purpose. Philosophy included. If saving starving Africans fills your subjective enjoyment of the universe better than watching animu or debating philosophy, then by all means go save the Africans from starvation. I'm enjoying my meaningless existence by posting in this topic right now.

JimmyLuong on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

JimmyLuong — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:23:52 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Ukonkivi said:</cite> So because there are people struggling to live, we should pretend life has meaning? </blockquote> Is not pretending,what i'm trying to say is that you should be glad that you are still alive.If you were 1 of those african kids do you think you would have time to think about the meaningless of life? or would you rather trying to figure out where to get your next meals. But oh well unless we want to invite every philosopher in this world to this thread then we should keep debating. As far as i know this question has been there since the dawn of mankin every culture one way or another some 1 had at some point of their life asked it.But just like every philosophical questions i believe there no definitive answer ,everyone when they happen to stumble upon the question will one way or another try to come up with an idea best to them so they could pretend that they know it and keep living their ignorant life(i'm no exception of course) If for a moment i try to think life is meaningless like your guys then i would come up with with questions like: If life is meaningless then asking a question about it meaning is also meaningless?But then why life have to exist in the first place when it has to end anyway.When we die is all over right? what remain of us are information store through the world and it people,so when the world end then it would be like we never existed.So wouldn't it be easier if there were no life from the start? I guess everyone of us could right an essay OVER 9000 pages about it....but then i don't even know what the point of this tread or where it will go so let make it look like spam for now

Azarius on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Azarius — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:51:17 +0000

Saying that life has no meaning is just an erroneous as saying that we live for God, Krishna, peace or whatever. The true question here is: What does "meaning" even mean? Which is a paradox. Meaning is a concept that mankind created, and therefore the "meaning of life" could be interpreted to be in accordance to that, and so be to "create a better world for us humans" or something of the like. But that would indeed be totally subjective. But can you assume that subjectiveness can be truly absent from reasoning that originates from a human being? You can - and you uncounsciously will - redefine "meaning" to fit your vision of the world. This taken into account, life has a meaning, or doesn't, or both... what does this even mean after all?

LunarSD on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

LunarSD — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:43:27 +0000

<blockquote><cite>Ukonkivi said:</cite> Life has no meaning. It is essentially meaningless and any meaning we give to life is subjective. However, that gives us total freedom in our direction and meaning. We hold all the rights on our meaning in life. A beautiful, absolute freedom. We are allowed to make of life whatever we want, and anyone telling us we're "not into the right things and need to get a life" are wrong. Because there is no "life" to have. There is only being alive. Living for family. Living for God. Living for society and mankind. Living for reproduction. All subjective purposes. It's not depressive. It's existentialist. It's only depressive if you want it to be. A person who realizes life has no meaning, can more easily go on when all their family and friends have died, their country has fallen to war, their countrymen slaughtered, the minorities in their country or people of other countries slain, their genitals destroyed or rendered useless, all the things people normally consider fundamental to purpose and happiness. Can find great ecstasy in life. </blockquote> Thanks for this. Couldn't have phrased it better myself. Now if only I could remember it every time I have to deal with angry control-obsessed fanatical people :\ Also, seeing Friedrich Nietzsche in this thread is a wonderful thing. "In heaven, all the interesting people are missing." "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." --Nietzsche

Ukonkivi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Ukonkivi — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:36:38 +0000

<blockquote><cite>JimmyLuong said:</cite> I mean while there people in Africa who life die for no reason and struggling to survive by any mean possible you who stay in your fat chair and eat good foods and say life is meaningless?? </blockquote> So because there are people struggling to live, we should pretend life has meaning?

Ukonkivi on "The Meaninglessness of Life"

Ukonkivi — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:35:08 +0000

Life has no meaning. It is essentially meaningless and any meaning we give to life is subjective. However, that gives us total freedom in our direction and meaning. We hold all the rights on our meaning in life. A beautiful, absolute freedom. We are allowed to make of life whatever we want, and anyone telling us we're "not into the right things and need to get a life" are wrong. Because there is no "life" to have. There is only being alive. Living for family. Living for God. Living for society and mankind. Living for reproduction. All subjective purposes. It's not depressive. It's existentialist. It's only depressive if you want it to be. A person who realizes life has no meaning, can more easily go on when all their family and friends have died, their country has fallen to war, their countrymen slaughtered, the minorities in their country or people of other countries slain, their genitals destroyed or rendered useless, all the things people normally consider fundamental to purpose and happiness. Can find great ecstasy in life. I don't believe there's a meaning to life. Do I need to? I'm not depressed. And there's objective reason to be happy or sad either. I feel pretty good right now. And I want to be immortal. I never want to die. Am I emo? Maybe being emo isn't so bad. In fact, sadness and depression isn't so bad, depression is a sordidly beautiful thing perhaps far above any state of happiness. I would never want nonexistence to take me from the black corners of beautiful sadness. I enjoy all aspects of life and existence too much, especially sadness.