Manga Publishers “Will Sue Sites Posting Spoilers”

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Top manga publishers are vowing a legal crackdown on sites wicked enough to post spoilers about the plot of such gems as Naruto and One Piece, blaming them for their declining sales, and have already threatened one of one of the largest such sites into virtual closure.

According to comments from the administrator of major Naruto spoiler site “Naruto Channel” received a message from a publisher indicating that “we would be grateful if you would be so kind as to delete your articles and close your site.”

Terrified, they swiftly deleted all their spoiler information and links, announcing no further such coverage of Naruto or One Piece would follow.

The publisher revealed in discussions that although the publishing industry formerly ignored the posting of spoilers, with many sites posting almost the entirety of the manga whose story elements they were covering and with sales of manga continuing to decline, now they are apparently determined to take “stern measures” to deal with anyone so keen on their manga as to bother checking 0-day spoiler sites for news of Naruto’s latest jutsu.

Target sites are “just think of them as any who come up at the top of a search,” although they will at least be comforted to know that publishers “want to deal with them quietly without taking sudden legal action with no warning.”

This is reputedly because lawsuits are a costly hassle rather than out of any niceness on their part, and the admin of the site being shut down in any case says “legal action without warning seems likely.”

There is some suggestion that publishers may have worked out that Internet coverage is now probably the main driver of new sales though, as they do promise mercy to some sites – those “recognised as having made a contribution to the spread of manga culture will not be deprived of due consideration.”

They also made clear that whether English or Japanese, the copyright situation is the same and action may be taken, suggesting scanlators may not be safe either.

The implicit assumption that the Internet is to blame for the decline in sales and that it has nothing to do with the publishing industry itself, its refusal to embrace non-paper based distribution and Japan’s demographic situation were soon picked up online – most notably by those who recall how Japan’s music industry secured the full criminalisation of downloading copyrighted material only to see sales collapse even faster than ever, but as with banning anything in Japan it has many defenders too:

“Most of these articles were just reviews of what already happened though. First they stopped people being able to read manga standing in convenience stores, now online. They are doing what the music industry did. They’ll just lose even more readers…”

“How is anyone going to be able to discuss the plot of these titles if nobody knows whether they are allowed to or not…”

“I think you can still post text describing what is going on? Just not pictures or links to pictures?”

“I think an indirect summary of what happened is allowed though.”

“Look, they just want to stop people who follow the entire manga solely through spoiler sites. I’m sure it has nothing to do with reviews.”

“Arrest all those bastards who spoil manga!”

“What next, Photoshop? You guys bash doujinshi all the time but it doesn’t stop you posting endless Photoshops…”

“Use your mouths to talk about it instead!”

In related news a significant portion of the Japanese web eco-system is now in danger of collapse due to similar issues, after elements of 2ch’s administration secured the inclusion of “reproduction prohibited” copyright riders across a score of the site’s most popular boards.

The move instantly deprived scores of the thousands of 2ch “matome” sites who copy 2ch threads into articles – minus all the spam and copy-pasted racist epithets about China and Korea whilst being presented in a manner looking as if it was invented in the last 30 years – of their only source of content.

A recent Japanese court ruling which found matome sites, tweets and SNS post can all be sued for slander just for reposting what goes on on 2ch and other such sites has done little to help matters.

That 2ch itself completely ignores the copyright of the sites whose content its users reproduce whilst even hosting a variety of piracy related boards as usual did not enter into the matter, and nor did the extant but apparently unknown right of fair use.

As is the way with anything 2ch-related, the conventional hypothesis that it was all because the core of 2ch just viscerally hates matome sites was soon joined by alternative explanations involving figure skating loving Koreans and their long-running efforts to hack the site into oblivion.

In this case it was a Korean-language post on a major Korean forum which described the move as part of an subversive effort to side-line the opinions of 2ch’s “net-uyo” by stopping their crazed rightist spiels continuously being reposted over the rest of the Japanese Internet…


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    Avatar of cats2
    Comment by cats2
    05:29 07/03/2014 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Pretending long running series like Naruto are running on anything but overused tropes at this point and the spoilers matter one bit...?

    Yikes...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:40 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    a SERIES SOO LONG, AND ANNOYING, THE ONLY THING YOU LEARN FROM IT IS THAT NARUTO IS GAY AND IS IN LOVE WITH SASUKE.............THATS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!! I HATE THIS ANIME REALLY BAD

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:52 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, Naruto while running on 'overused' (viewpoint) tropes is getting kinda good. Gai is just about to go "Red" and do a Heroic Sacrifice to stall for time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:40 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    That's all they've been doing for the past 3 years.

    Stalling for more time.

    Naruto has always been pretty bad but man...it's just awful now.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    03:49 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Make that 8 years.

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    Comment by Justin iZ Here
    12:52 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Acting like Naruto was ever good to begin with...Hah.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:12 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    All the hip kids hate on things that are popular because it's cool and it makes you look cool.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was... Until chapter 220.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:57 12/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was good. Now it's awful.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:18 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, it will take more than an 8th Gate to clean all the fussy this last 200 chapters made

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:23 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gai's just stalling for time until Naruto and Sasuke wake up from their sleeping, confess their love to eachother, and kill madara while holding hands >.>

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    Comment by Satonaka
    13:53 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sauce-gay

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:06 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    and end up having gay make up se......

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 07/03/2014 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Honestly, the writing of the big three has gone down a good bit in recent years.

    And yet, of the 15-20 Manga I read online, 3 are localised. if Japan would want to make money, they could have easily done so since years in the digital market.
    Weekly english digital shounen jump, globally released on the same day = Money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:51 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You know, I'd pay 10 bucks a month for unlimited manga reading. Someone needs to make a netflix of manga, it would probably earn a lot more than trying to sell small libraries of physical books.

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    Comment by EccentricZebra
    16:21 30/04/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I totally concur, my friend. But I'll stick with Manga Rock for now. Let us hope it happens, though!

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:08 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crunchyroll recently created a manga subscription service, although there's only a few Mangas but it's getting better is just a matter of them finding ( American right owners ) and fighting for the rights to manga and anime ( like one piece ).

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:02 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    they dont even know how to upload a manga.Most times You have to wait hours just to see the last pages of the manga you were reading. I wanted to subscribe but only when they learn to do their job. Though i do use their website everyday just to give them money clicking ads

    Comment by Anonymous

    FUCK CR !!!

    They are racist who block access to some countries.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:10 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    u get unlimited reading for free

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:12 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Id pay for that

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:37 07/03/2014 # ! Good (+0.7)

    Guess it didn't occurred to them that these manga have been here for too long and that those who read them might have gotten bored of them...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:38 07/03/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    OR that getting new readers into a 50+ vol series is economically impossible. OR that the series themselves are getting increasingly boring for trying to make them last too long without an actual plot.
    Heck, most top manga nowadays can have their chapters summarized in 4 sentences at best!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:42 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Without even taking into account the space all those volumes would take in ones house.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:25 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    so sleeping..
    much wow..
    stalling guy..
    exciting yes..
    so wow..

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:30 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Naruto lives, Bad Guy dies. The End.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:19 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon-11:20 - Kurama is kind of in limbo atm LMAO! Half of him was absorbed into Madara and the other half is in BlackzetsuObito.(even though it should be transferred back into Naruto soon considering Obito has changed back into "good guy" mode and he is in the process of going into his Kamui dimension to help naruto.)

    Ya I follow Naruto. Get over it. Series is actually picking back up. Plus even though Bleach is a good series as a whole, Kishimoto hasn't fallen to Kubo levels of storytelling. Meaning "Bad guy powers up, good guy powers up, bad guy powers up again, good guy powers up again, good guy wins shortly after, and rinse N repeat." But that shit literally happens VERBATIM EVERY chapter/EVERY other chapter. No variation has been done on that fucking formula the last 60+ chapters. The only variation has been the occasional flashback really...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    But that's exactly what bleach is....

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:43 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    naruto: "I'LL PROTECT EVERYONE"

    -THE END-

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:20 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    9-tailed fox. Power. The End

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:24 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    If only. you. could count. to four.

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    Comment by Stormwatch
    04:49 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    This. A series should last only as long as it takes to tell the story it set out to tell, and no more. Some of the best comics I've read are one-shots, or mini-series with less than a dozen issues.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:42 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    They want to play it save.
    Remember, the business culture in Japan is different from USA and there's severe "go do seppuku" thing if something failed.

    The editorial can end their cash cow and start new title. But what will guarantee the new title will give as much money ?
    Higher ups only want to see the graph going up, they don't give a shit about any reason from the floor workers.

    If I'm an author, I want to stay away from being on the top. Just good enough to survive the axe, but still not having to be the living lifeline for the company.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:54 07/03/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    lol of course... when sales start going down blame someone else lmao... they dont understand that naruto and one piece aint good anymore stopped being good a long time ago..

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    Comment by Webbmaster62
    07:09 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    As far as I can see One piece is going strong as always. These are the publishers bitching mostly.

    Comment by Anonymous

    ONEPIECE IS O.K, NARUTO SUCKS ASS, ALL HE DOES IS TALK THE TALK AND FAILS THE FAIL, AS MUCH AS THE PUBLISHERS.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:36 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Sueing: THE new favourite pastime around the world ...

    Shit! I knew I should've studied law ... I could be filthy rich now ... -_-

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:10 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    that's if u can pass and u're good and reputable enough for companies to hire u

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:31 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's always someone else's fault!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:35 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    This guy is right! You know why I can't get laid? It's not because I'm ugly or poor, it's because girls are allowed to have sex with other men! Ban that and I'm sure I'll get some action.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    you can always rape your mum

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:41 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I thought they were targeting retailers or something, that'd be an appropriate finger-wag.

    Dear everyone fucking ever:

    ONCE INFORMATION IS IN THE WILD YOU DON'T OWN IT.

    You can ask nicely, but if you want to control what person A can tell person B, you're on the brink of fucking thought police. Mind control.

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    Comment by Falos
    09:44 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Addenum: This doesn't apply to, say, info disclosed under an NDA. That is NOT information released in the wild. You agreed to conditions before receiving the info, you alone (so to speak) were given the info.

    Something that was PUBLISHED to the PUBLIC is public knowledge.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    03:59 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    What part of "in the wild" was difficult to understand? Once it's out there, it's too late.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:44 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Addenum 2: This doesn't apply to, say, commercial works. That is NOT information released in the wild. You agreed to conditions before purchasing the info, you alone (so to speak) were given the info.

    Something that was OFFERED FOR SALE to the PUBLIC is knowledge for those you pay.

    ...or we can just get rid of all this legalese. Control who profits from information's flow, not information flow itself.
    You set up a website to discuss some manga you like and get no money out of it: good!
    You add a paid section to your site with unauthorized scans to earn some quick cash: bad!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Can't really blame the Naruto decline in manga sales on spoilers. The author has been on the same battle pretty much for ages. They're still on Namek LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 07/03/2014 # ! Good (+0.6)

    a third of the manga is only about this fucking stupid war.And the main characters have been dead for 10 chapters at least with noone caring
    Naruto:"don't mind me, i'm just the main character and are just staying dead for a few more months"

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:43 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have a horrible feeling the author will drag this story along till Christmas. He's going to make the Namek stuff seem small in comparison. At which point people will agree he's out of ideas and is desperately trying to keep his manga alive to make some quick $$$.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:06 08/03/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do you know how it will end? With Naruto and Sasuke resurrecting everyone using the rinnegans...... Like pain arc end. If he really does it again i am going to sell all my naruto volumes.

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    Comment by Shaolan-kun
    04:48 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You lost me in the second part of the article...

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:33 07/03/2014 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    SPOILER: the heroes win





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