USA Orders Planes To Kowtow To China

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The USA has told its airlines to file their flight-plans with the Chinese military when flying through its new air defence zone, after even Japan had the spine to tell its airlines to ignore China.

The US government has said it expects all American airlines to abide by Chinese government’s requirements

However, the US oddly maintains that officially ordering its carriers to obey China’s requirements in the zone does not mean it “accepts China’s requirements” for the area.

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Various American airlines are reportedly either already submitting flight plans to China where they pass over the zone, or have indicated they will be doing so.

Despite all this, America, Japan and South Korea have all made unannounced military flights in the area, prompting China to scramble its own jets.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:31 02/12/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    This is probably the wisest choice for the states to avoid civilian casualties.

    If they report they flight path, China will have to shoot down civilian planes and look like the bad guy.

    Meanwhile, I expect they'll continue with their normal "crossing" of the line with their B-52s

    Cheers
    Polaris

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:32 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    This was my take on this, too. The US is not backing down, but protecting civilians. Military flights will continue flipping the ChiComs the bird.

    Someone else commented that they wouldn't dare attack a civilian flight. Think again. The Chinese government wouldn't. But, that doesn't guarantee that some trigger-happy pilot out there might not "mistakenly" shoot an airliner down.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:19 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    China will not shoot down civilian airplanes. That's not something you get away with, as soon as one civillian plain goes down it's cold war all over again, except this time it won't be east versus west, but everyone dogpiling on China for the right to rape the country privilege of bringing democracy to them.

    They would, however, go to great lengths to antagonize the crew and passengers. All it takes is one 30 day stay in Chinese custody to convince airlines that they better not mess with them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:12 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is there a difference between accidentally killing a bunch of people and knowingly killing a bunch of people? Both seem terrible.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:45 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    It much easier to weasel out of the blame for shooting down a plane which refuses to identify itself than one which is following regulations.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:44 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon 08:12

    The end-result is just as bad for the victims, but generally, the penalties for accidently killing some are less than for intentionally doing so. The former is called "manslaughter"; the latter is called "murder".

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:06 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    the us just wants to avoid having another 'Flight 007'

    for those who don't know Kal007 was a civilian airliner that was shot down when it accidently overflew soviet airspace on it's way to korea

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    Comment by cpc65
    08:50 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not an "accident". And after they shot it down they misled searchers by pretending to look for it themselves in the wrong place while secretly searching for the wreckage where they knew it to have actually crashed.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I agree with your post except for the "accidentally." What I have read is that KAL007 may have been being secretly ordered by South Korean intelligence to cross into Soviet air space, in order to get data on Soviet air defenses.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:43 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you just phenomenally retarded? That was a fuckin CIVILIAN airliner.

    Not to mention, if soviets recovered any intelligence and surveillance equipments from the wreckage, they would have paraded it on the international stage. Strange they never did.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ah, it's rather unfortunate that we can no longer shoot down your commercial airliners out of the sky since you already ask your airliners to comply with our demands.

    But of course, we wouldn't shoot down those planes anyway. I mean, that's pretty horrid thing for us to do, right? We probably would have love to just play escorts to your airliners....but I guess that is also out of the picture too as well since you are already complying to us.

    See? Wasn't it easy? Your airliners gets to stay safe and unharrased and we get to save unnecessary wastage of ammunition required to shoot down unauthorized flights or our fuel to kindly escort you out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    1/10
    nice troll

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:56 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL this delusional chnnk and their mouth.

    Just like how you 'complied' with our government when your BLIND lawyer escaped from your 'cops' and ran to US embassy in the middle of Beijing.

    Not a fuckin thing you could do. Just like you did nothing against our military planes that continue to use that airspace and you don't even have the balls to try and intercept them ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:14 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    09:10 Pretty sure all those planes criss crossing right now are armed to the teeth.

    What's the matter chnky? All mouth and no balls?

    Lookin forward to another one of your pilots being fucked like a biatch and losing a plane because he can't drive for sht :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, I guess flying over our air space and a fugitive escaping our authorities and hiding in your country makes you feel proud, huh.

    Your country don't even have the balls to arm those B-52 bombers and purposely cross our air defense zone. So, why don't your country try arming the B-52 with armaments first and fly over and then see what we would do then?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    How the fuck did a chnk even get into sankaku?

    Go back to your cheap goods factory, you little yellow farmer

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    Comment by Ric
    00:02 08/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm amazed that some chinks actually believe that they can take on the US.

    The US can wipe the floor with China on their own, even without taking their allies into account. On the other side, China is such an obnoxious nation that there is not a single country on the planet that would be willing to aid China in a war. Except maybe your loyal puppet North Korea, but I'm not 100% sure even about them.

    Consider that for a moment, chinks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:55 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    13:45 LOL this btch. US doesn't give a fuck about your ADIZ enough to even arm the bombers, and you think that's 'weakness'.

    LAWL if they armed it you would try to btch about how they are too nervous to fly without weapons.

    As far as I am concerned, Americans went on about their business like it's no one's concern while you chnks were bleeding out of your pussies without even trying to intercept the largest radar-signature planes in USAF arsenal.

    US military is routinely flying through the ADIZ right now - with transfers going on between okinawa, guam, and other places. Many of them are armed. Where's your 'brave' pilots who can't even drive their planes enough to avoid crashing them?

    Also, some serious LOL @ looking to fuckin chinasmack for source. You definitely a class A btch.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Ah, pretty damn amused that your impotent people couldn't do shit to stop him from escaping in the first place ^^

    Our planes go about their business as usual, unlike your btch nation that throws tantrums left and right like a puppet on a string. They can arm or carry fuckin medical supplies for phillipines or anything they like - and you better put your balls where your mouth is and bring it.

    Funny seeing you writing checks your mouth can't cash in :)

    Comment by Anonymous

    Well, first of all, get you fact straight.
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303281504579221993719005178

    "but didn't respond to the B-52s, which weren't armed and were part of a long-planned military exercise."

    the US didn't have the ball to actually armed their Bomber and look at this pathetic flight path:
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    it merely reach the edge of the Air Defence Identification Zone.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Obama is the new Neville Chamberline of our times. He appeases Iran, China, and anyone else but the American citizens.

    He lies, spouts bullshit, and has no backbone. Just like how one general said, he was 'afraid and intimidated during military briefings by being around all those stars'.

    He deceives American citizens, tries to run things by himself then runs to congress to shift blame when shit goes up the creek.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:12 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    all democratic presidents are shit, when it comes to anything involving the military

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:49 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    What about Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt? They were both Democrats and they were President during two of the of bloodiest wars in world history. And if I remember, the US won WWI and WWII.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:00 20/01/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    I do have a perspective of history. Also the comment i was refuting was that "all democratic presidents were shit". There was no specified time period

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:39 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Democrats during those era were most DEFINITELY NOT democrats of today. If any of those democrats looked at the so called liberals that make up the democratic party today, they would be the first to put all 'democrats' up against walls and have them shot.

    You need a perspective in history.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:47 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Obama is hesitantly waging peace, whereas Bush/Cheney kept making the world worse by enthusiastically waging pointless wars.

    I'm not a big fan of Obama, but your ideas are quite wrong -- and too tempting for an American public that treats international affairs as if it were a video game.

    The US has become Star Wars' "evil empire." Just look at super-equipped US troops and compare them to Star Wars troops. And think of whether you would approve of other countries using drones to assassinate people on your soil.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:53 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    China and the US do not want armed to conflict to erupt between them. That's the last thing the both of them want. I mean what do they gain from it except wasting large amounts of money and human lives over a tiny dispute.

    Sometimes the diplomatic solution is the best one for both parties. I mean if diplomacy wasn't used during the Cold War, both the US and the Soviet Union, along with most of the world, would be a nuclear wasteland.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:01 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    What exactly has he lied about? What evil things has he done to the American citizens?

    also If he has no backbone and is weak, how did the US under his leadership manage to capture and kill Osama bin Laden, end the Iraq War, improve international relations, and help deploy a no fly zone over Libya, which therefore helped the rebels to overthrow Ghadaffi without the deployment of soldiers? doesn't sound like the moves made by someone who is weak and has no backbone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:03 19/01/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    There was pretty much no way we could've withdrew from Iraq with a solid end. The whole Middle East is riddled with ethnic conflict, clan wars, and other unstable factors. Add in the US invading, the problems in the region is basically impossible to solve with one solid concluding solution. The point is that we got the troops out of Iraq, a country they shouldn't have been in the first place.

    Wouldn't you be concerned and "scared" if a special operation to kill/capture a man who've you been looking for the past 10 years? Besides, how does being concerned about whether or not this mission of such high value will be a success or a bust show that you are weak? A military operation can easily not go according to plan. And we all are humans after all.

    Well I applaud Obama for helping get rid of Ghaddafi through indirect means via the Libyan people. Otherwise it could've easily been another Iraq with the US spending tons of money to land and maintain troops and equipment in a hostile region of the world.

    Though I do have sympathy for the people who lost their lives in Libya, Israel attacked and killed Americans by attacking the USS Liberty and the US made excuses for those losses and still maintains its full friendship despite this incident.

    At least the talks with the Russia resulted in the US and Russia agreeing to oversee and assist with Syria's chemical weapons clean-up.

    What are your sources stating China views him as spineless, Russia thinks he's a fool, and the MIddle East thinks he doesn't have the qualities to be President? Without sources, your statement really falls apart.

    How did he lie about health care? Besides don't all politicians lie?

    I overall think Obama is doing a good job. Is he doing a perfect job? No. But before him, the whole world was practically viewing the US as either a fool or as an arrogant empire. The US before Obama was trying to make enemies with countries that didn't even want to be enemies.

    We started angering Russia by placing missile defenses in Poland, the US went to war with Iraq for no real legitimate reason, and we were calling countries names such as the "Axis of Evil" (not a good move when you're tying to reason with these same countries diplomatically).

    The US before Obama was at least to me more anti-secular and mixed religion with the political process. Laws and decisions were being made based partly on religious beliefs instead of empirical logic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:48 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He screwed up the withdrawl from Iraq by giving too much to the iraqis before ensuring some form of order in the country and ending the sectarian violence. Instead of a solid end, he left behind a weak and shaky mess.

    He struck at osama after all the ground work had been laid from the work originating back from 2006 - under programs laid out by bush administration that included expanded intelligence and covert operation in all corners of the middle east. Think about how foolish and nervous he looked in that situation room photo, despite all the politically biased fools trying to spin it as 'original' and 'humble'. The fool wasn't humble, he was downright scared, just like when he was standing before his own generals and military personnel.

    In libya, he once again left behind a mess that resulted in the death of our personnel, a mess he made MUCH WORSE by MAKING EXCUSES FOR THOSE WHO KILLED OUR PEOPLE.

    He has little to no political or diplomatic savvy. He got schooled by Putin and was ass fucked and humiliated in the syria debacle when he thought he could make it by himself while even all the 'yes men' advised him against running his mouth.

    Chinese think he's spineless. Russians play him for a fool. Middle east and the whole world now knows he doesn't have presidential qualities, never mind qualities that befit someone to be the President of the United States of America.

    He outright lied about the health care.

    The only thing keeping his head where it is, is the secret service and joe biden being VP. That, and the fact that no one think he even deserves to be some kind of a martyr seeing as how he needs no one's help in bitching and screwing himself over with his 'eloquence' about 'world's red line'.

    The private school boy needs to go back to a cush teaching job in chicago and run a college club or something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:31 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    China issued NOTAM restrictions for years, everytime they did excercises somewhere in the Pacific, which are perfectly legal. And those were always honoured by other countries, even the US and Japan.

    This here is nothing new.
    And ADIZ is nothing more than a permanent NOTAM...

    China doesnt care if military flights continue to cross their zone, but the other side should be prepared for interceptions when they get too close to China.

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    Comment by Rene
    02:33 02/12/2013 # ! Good (+0.3)

    Of course. It's not kowtowing either. Way to fluff your fucking headlines.

    That aside, it's foolish to think that an air line carrying civilians is going to risk running into a Chinese fighter plane. It's restricted air space. Doubtful that the Chinese would do something (read, anything) to a US plane. But why run the risk?

    ALL of that being said, this is stupid. You can't expect this to last without something being broken and it'll likely escalate to the point of War or the US stepping in and playing world police.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:15 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    IT IS KOWTOwING. Accepting unillateral sovereingty proclamations over something is always telling them they are are even when politicians don't have the courage to say it in public. But don't wory, there will be no war. Murrica owes too much money to chinese investors and american investors need chinese economy growth to make more money and chinese factories to manufacture their products. This is not world police, these are world loan sharks bluffing to each other.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:54 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It is not kowtowing (whatever that means in the present day). It is just avoiding trouble. US policy in this matter seems at least rational: send in military planes to say you don't recognize the zone, but keep civilian planes out to save lives.

    In any case, Japan has a far larger zone in which it requires aircraft to inform traffic control.

    The kind of chauvinistic howling on this site is exactly what doomed the first democracy. When ancient Athens was at war with Sparta, it had a chance to make peace, but the public demanded that it get more "honorable" terms and Athens ended up losing the war and its empire.

    The big problem today is that those islands actually were given back to Japan against the terms of a WW2 agreement. The US was supposed to consult China (or Taiwan) before giving back to Japan any islands taken by imperial Japan. It did not. Now it has the contradictory policy of saying it takes no position on who actually owns them, but promising to defend them for Japan.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    You missed the part where he said China was left out of the negotiations. Makes the rest of your post a joke, but keep trying though.

    Besides, all the airlines have to do is say something like "yo, we are flying from Taipei to Tokyo." not really a big deal for anyone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:35 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    So it's other people's job to see to it that you can get your internal affairs in order to the level fully capable of participating in international negotiations?

    LOL what a bitch. If it was that important, china should have put it forth as petulantly as they are doing now in 1945. They were never left out of the negotiations. One way or another, a 'chinese' did participate, and one way or another, they kept their mouths shut (more likely they didn't even think too much about it until the oil and gas deposits were found in 1971).

    It seems their 'bravery' and 'sovereign integrity' are opportunistically compromised, are very spineless things indeed :)

    Bitch chinese, as always!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:10 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hint: US is officially a republic, not a strict democracy.

    Also, china's hypocritical attitude of not raising this issue during the negotiations and bringing up now is a clear sign of selective moralistic attitude they employ against Tibetans, Uyghrs, and all other nations around them. At least US acknowledges its faults and does its best to address them compared to those spineless chnks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:04 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only reason it seems "petulant" now is because the U.S. is interjecting on top of the fact most other disputes HAVE BEEN SOLVED. Also being present at certain conferences in 45 does not mean equal right of opinion for China.

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    Comment by Victor Delacroix
    22:13 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just Some SB want to Manufacture topics,every has its identification zone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:34 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unilateral is the norm, actually.

    Ever wondered why Japan's own air warning zone is so huge? Extending 100 km from Taiwan coast and 50km from Russian coast? Yeah, unilateral declarations, over the past 4 decades. Korea and a few other small asian countries made a stink about it every time, but since they don't matter, it stayed.

    This time too, it will stay. Only the perpetrator changed. It's all just "I'm doing it, because I can," period.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:14 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Financially bankrupt" give me a break. When it comes down to it the US is a massive benchmark for the world economy. They aren't even close to the level of debt crisis of countries like greece and cyprus and even if they were, they can buy their way out of it. the "massive debt" they owe china is less than 8%, and even if china wanted to "call in the note" today, they couldn't. It's all in treasury bills and is due at a fixed value at a fixed point in time.

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    Comment by Kiljoy616
    10:21 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Well said, that is how it goes, he with power rules, Japan no power, USA still there but more careful and financially bankrupt plus china is not some amateur people in bed sheets running around in a desert.

    Engaging China even a small one would probably find the USA ships been sunk, and there would be no winners in an altercation like that. No best to just let it slide and see how far they take it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:32 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Accepting unillateral sovereingty proclamations over something is always telling them they are are even when politicians don't have the courage to say it in public

    Except it's not a proclamation of sovereignty, but an air defence zone.
    On another note, you might want to familiarize yourself with a spell-checker.

    Murrica owes too much money to chinese investors

    And why exactly would that discourage them? Oh look, we owe these guys money. We better be very careful not to kill them, because that would be bad!

    and american investors need chinese economy growth to make more money and chinese factories to manufacture their products

    America does not benefit from Chinese economic partnership at all. If anything, it's US economy that is getting dragged down by local capital being invested into foreign economies.

    This is not world police, these are world loan sharks bluffing to each other.

    I don't see any difference.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:42 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Loan sharks is a good way to put it. If the US and China were to war, the value of US treasury bonds held by Chinese investors would plummet to nothing, drastically destabilizing both economies, and neither is going to want that. The outcome of the US not paying back its loans is presumably a war to recover one's losses (as well as an inability to borrow further money from the area), so the threat of default is already in action if they've skipped the step and jumped into it.

    The US has a strong economic tie to China, but don't for a minute think that China isn't equally tied to the US market. A war would cripple both their futures for decades, which is why it's greatly unlikely to happen.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:08 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    "Loan sharks is a good way to put it. If the US and China were to war, the value of US treasury bonds held by Chinese investors would plummet to nothing, drastically destabilizing both economies, and neither is going to want that. The outcome of the US not paying back its loans is presumably a war to recover one's losses (as well as an inability to borrow further money from the area), so the threat of default is already in action if they've skipped the step and jumped into it."

    Are you high? because you are obviously on something if you are using this stupid excuse. Let me state this as clear as possible for those that don't do research

    CHINA OWNS 7% OF U.S. DEBT!!!!
    U.S. BUSINESSES OWNS 80% OF U.S. DEBT!!!

    Stop smoking people, saying that China owns the U.S. because they don't.

    Damn can anyone read anymore. The last paragraph is the only thing that redeemed the bull you stated. For future reference, know your numbers and know just how much U.S. owes China

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL some fool again brings up that retarded argument about being 'made in china' and can't even tell the difference between manufacturing vs. Research and development.

    Guess what, shit made in mexico and india or vietnam and thailand don't have fuckin lead and paint in them, unlike chinese fish imports.

    Almost anyone can piece shit together on an assembly line. That doesn't make it 'chinese'.

    BTW, I heard a chnk foreman got raped and killed by africans in a mine recently. Not to mention those africans fucking hate chnks for exploiting their natural resources under guise of 'brothers against colonial oppression bullshit'.

    Or maybe we should look up all the brawls between africans and chinese in Guangzhou. Not to mention the riots.

    This is only from having less than 0.1% blacks in china.

    'Well liked' LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:23 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Really? Go look at the stuff you have around the house and see exactly where they are made. Notice how the majority of the stuff seems to be made in the same place.

    As for China not being well liked around the world..go look up a documentary called "Chinatown Africa"

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:36 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I do love some fucktard thinking they are not 'anonymous' because they have a 'screen name'

    lawl what a laugh/

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    Comment by Kiljoy616
    10:27 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I do love some of Anonymous boasting how the USA does not need anyone, like that is real. The USA is a cripple as it really look like. It has a good propaganda machine making up stories about how they are doing well but its a minority of the population and most of its wealth now is on paper an no where else.

    What ever the believe the reality is that the USA would be hurt majorly, not including that we have way to many fringe groups here just waiting for a reason to go all Anarchy so its best not to destabilize the economy. Unlike Japan here in the states plenty can fight a limited war since we do have actually weapons to do so. Japan and other nations are just sheep that hope they never have their govt. turn on them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:04 04/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean like every other country? Kill yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    China needs the world and US more than US needs either. That's the harsh reality that chinese often like to ignore.

    Fundamentally speaking, chinese are not well-liked enough around to world to play any kind of a leading role due to the fact that anyone can tell they are trying to throw around attitudes.

    US, in the end, is coldly pragmatic and business like. The chinese THINK they are like this, but in the end they are driven by childish tantrums that compromises their standings and fragile psyche that cannot stand up to anyone stronger than them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:29 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean like how america bombs other countries because they don't want to give the U.S something?

    I've seen things like this done in kindergartens.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Despite all this, America, Japan and South Korea have all made unannounced military flights in the area, prompting China to scramble its own jets."

    Exactly. Civilian flights thing is a face saving excuse for the chinese politicians to back the fuck off before getting bitch slapped by US into losing their domestic political clout.

    By continuing the military flight unabated and having the MILITARY side completely ignore the chinese, US and its allies are sending an interesting double message to the chinese about who REALLY holds the best hand in this game.

    In japan's case, they cannot allow the public opinion to see them as weak, so unlike US they seemingly 'stand up to chinese aggression' and 'tell airline to ignore the chinese'. However, in terms of real consequences the japanese 'stance' has little to no impact - it's all publicity stunt.

    Also, people have missed the most crucial aspect of it all: No one is US told the airlines that they had to abide by any chinese changes in regulations - only that they make their presence known. US airlines will not change courses unless something real like a shooting war starts, since no civilians should be in a war zone.

    And yet some child-like ch!nks will come by and try to bitch at themselves about a 'victory' lol

    China: proving once again they are a nation of Ah Qs forever. So gullible and so easy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:10 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would actually consider this an escalation on US's part against china - it's actually a backhanded message signaling that US is taking this seriously enough to consider a shooting war a real possibility. The last thing you want in a shooting war is a fat plane full of civilians wandering in everyone's crosshairs.

    Besides, US doesn't want foreign nationals riding its airlines in those routes to die from 'accidental' chinese aggression.

    So this move by US serves two purposes: While actually clearing the way for a real shooting war and signaling a warning to china that US is ready to escalate if need be, it is also giving the chinese a face-saving excuse to back off after the B-52 in-your-face flyover to satisfy the domestic chinese public opinion about 'seemingly having stood up to others'.

    Remember, rattling a sabre makes noise. Drawing it does not.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:45 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Ahaha oh wow, such a delusional opinion by a delusional american.

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    Comment by Kiljoy616
    10:28 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you expect with the amount of propaganda feed since junior high in the states.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:34 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    - Give a balanced point of view

    - Get a bunch of whiny bitches moaning about how it doesn't glorify shitty slanty eyes

    - Somebody actually thinks textbooks laden with pages on pages of American faults about everything from civil war to vietnam is 'propaganda'.

    LOL some bitching going on here. Fuck off kids.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:48 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Give a balanced point of view

    Ignoring the fact that your PoV was in no way balanced, a balanced PoV is just another opinion and is in no way superior to any other opinion on the planet. If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, then you might want to start with making actual arguments (you know, the kind that have proof in them) instead empty justifications.

    Opinions are cheap. Everyone has them. Yours is not special in any way whatsoever.

    LOL some bitching going on here. Fuck off kids.

    How about you take your own hypocritical advise and stop bitching yourself. Being the target of a dickish response is not an excuse to be a dick yourself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:50 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Refuting without even trying to provide a counter argument. LOL typical ch!nk logic: We don't need facts, just feelings.

    Why don't you run your mouth and do some mental gymnastics to offer some decent rebuttals? As far as anyone can see, that analysis is spot on. Or do chinese take pride in rushing a bunch of civilians into warzones?

    Oh wait, sino jap war when they traded their own countrymen's unwilling deaths for 'time' while they begged the international community to strike the japs :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:36 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually drawing it makes quite a bit of noise as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:43 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Movies are not the same as actual combat situation. Neither if saber only used in dueling.

    There is no 'shwing' or some delusional crap like that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:17 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    China has no right doing what they did, basically it's like saying that your property line goes into your neighbor's yard so that you can later claim that their pool rightfully belongs to you, except in this instance, the property line is non existant space made of air, and the islands is the pool.

    The U.S. will back Japan, so we show our ass by flying our jets through the area.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:02 03/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    National sovereignity is not property rights law. Saying they have "no right" doesn't carry more weight here than "I don't like that they did."

    National territory is decided by a nations claim to it, and how far they are willing and can go to back that claim up. Of course, in case of a dispute, the opposing sides claims and willingness to back up matter just as much. Lastly, what others say matters too. There's no right and wrong, only positions on who you support.

    By letting this slide too much, it will de facto become chinese air space.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:46 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would upvote if I could. Decent analysis.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Sure, we probably won't blow your ass out of the sky but we sure can escort/intimidate your commerical airlines ass out, that's for sure.

    So, you better comply, or you won't be have a pleasant journey. Probably will be enjoying your return flights home back instead of flying to whatever holiday destination you had in mind.

    Ahahahaha.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:34 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Time to fuck over another one of your embassies LOL

    'By accident' of course :)

    Courtesy of the specially designed CIA flight plans biatch!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:20 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    go ahead. You guys buy all the repair materials from us anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    05:20 you will be the one doing any repairing LOL chnks can't even think that far ahead.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just remember, we might just feel like running over a few chinese tourists with a fire truck on the tarmac again.

    Or you know, gangbanging a few of your bitches in the dark O alley somewhere.

    With so many fools strutting about deluding themselves safe, the possibilities are endless ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:57 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    arent you just testing out your newest sword?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    06:47 lol at least try to make sense fool/

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:47 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    another emotional strangulation.... simcity grants a lot of lives chinese and japenese (since new dawn of gaming)

    Comment by Anonymous

    More like it was just about time we started wiping the tarmac with your face, yanks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:22 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    so, homosexuality, you better comply... AHAHAHAHAHAH ROFL WHAT AN AMERICAN ASSHAT ::::: ARENT YOU JUST ANOTHER GAYLORD AFRAID OF LOOSING HIS RIGHTS INTO HIS PANTS AHAHAHAH ROFL

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    LAWL

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    so, homosexuality, you better comply... HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE ROFL WHAT AN AMERICAN ASSHAT ::::: ARENT YOU JUST ANOTHER GAYLORD AFRAID OF LOOSING HIS RIGHTS INTO HIS PANTS HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE ROFL

    ...fixed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:45 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    ah i see paid science is dream for gundams only

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:16 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The word ignorant and arrogant perfectly great to describe you. I really hope not all Chinese a bastard like you are.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    arrogan assholes is fits perfectly dirty barbarian yanks

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 02/12/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    HAHAHA this bitch maybe next time you try to accost one of those planes and see how long you have before our planes blow you to hell?

    So far you don't even dare look at the wrong way at our military planes giving you a fuck off sign everytime they fly through that airspace. Typical chink actually thinks something so trivial is a 'victory'.

    Put money where your mouth is, chink!







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