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The team behind Square Enix’s latest Final Fantasy XIII rehash Lightning Returns have revealed the game’s open-world gameplay is intended to “beat Skyrim,” prompting much derision, and have also confirmed the important news that Lightning has officially been augmented to a D cup.

In Famitsu’s latest interview with the Lightning Returns development team, director Motomu Toriyama (famous for removing towns from XIII as “they were too much work“) and “wilderness lead planner” Yui Umeda revealed their intent to make a Skyrim beater:

Umeda: The wilderness is designed with a natural open world style of play in mind.

Toriyama’s first instruction was “beat Skyrim!”

That may be a tall order with the resources on hand, but as this is FF we decided it might be best to approach it by letting you run about on a chocobo.

Also, although there is lots of freedom in the wilderness, there is only one goal but with many paths to accomplishing it.

Thankfully for them the talk soon shifted to the far more important topic of Lightning’s increasing bust size, perhaps illustrating where everyone’s priorities really lie:

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Is it true Lightning went from a C cup to a D cup?

Goto: Well, Toriyama told us to make her bigger!

Toriyama: You’re just passing the blame!

Goto: Well, yes, we made her bigger.

That is to say, she was a C until now? She jiggles about a bit now, doesn’t she?

Goto: Yes!

Toriyama: It actually depends on the wear you select. Sort of like supportive underwear.

Suzuki: There’s an unshown costume where she is wearing a sarashi. If it is announced, think of this.

Lightning herself has also been made to moonlight as a Miqo’te of late:

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Even Square Enix daring to mention Skyrim, let alone challenge it, is all too much hubris for Japanese gamers it would seem:

“Like they can manage Skyrim.”

“There is no way this can compete with Skyrim as they say.”

“I think they are confusing their ‘open plains’ from XIII with the ‘open world’ of Skyrim.”

“I’d love to see just what part of this game they have deluded themselves into thinking could compete with Skyrim.”

“Skyrim was overrated anyway. It was only really good because you can mod it up.”

“With those comments Umeda is basically saying one small part of the game is somewhat comparable to an open-world RPG.”

“If they were saying this about XV I might think they were serious, but it is obvious they long ago gave up making anything of Lightning Returns.”

“Other than the cuteness of Lightning they really have nothing to beat anyone with.”

“I wish they’d stop dragging out Lightning. She’s not even that appealing a character!”

“These weird host and hostess costumes and odd equipment they are obsessed with are so out of date it is not funny any more! I’m getting truly sick of their mixed medieval high-tech worlds too!”

“The whole game premise is just awful.”

“It will just be another long linear story though.”

“Maybe they could beat Skyrim with the battle system, at least.”

“They could surely beat it in terms of CTDs!”

“Square Enix is hopeless, they long since forgot they could succeed going their own way.”

“Square Enix is just done for.”

“It really says it all that even now they are saying they can compete with Skyrim.”

“It is odd that they are so obsessed with Skyrim at all really.”

“It carried off everything they ever wanted to do, I guess. Now they are just deluding themselves that they can beat it if they try.”

“God knows why they are trying to do this with another continuation of XIII. They shouldn’t even be trying this with the FF brand.”

“This lot probably don’t want to do anything like TES at all. They are just crazy about the way JRPGs have been reduced to a global laughing stock and even Japanese gamers are united in adoration of Skyrim.”

“That’s mostly because you can mod it to the gills though. Japanese game companies would just bitch about copyright or some nonsense and never allow it, so they have no chance there.”

“The fact that it took them this long to even accept just the notion of an open-field in an FF game is proof of just how empty their heads are now.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Skyrim's actual fighting gameplay is shit, idk what they are trying to compete with...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:01 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    the gameplay is boring to be honest...and the quests are even more boring...but not as boring as round-based gameplay.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:58 02/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    the combat in skyrim beats out FF,
    the quests in skyrim... while boreing, beat out FF because they make logical sense, and dont require a condex to understand.

    worldbuilding in skyrim beats the fuck out of FF to the point that its fucking sad, sure ff games have a fairly interesting world, but i dare you to play ff13 and tell me you understand it without extensive condex reading.

    its hard to say what would make the games better...

    im thinking a FF world, with skyrim level "keep it simple stupid" where you let the player know damn well what's going on at any given time, while allowing them to dive deeper if they so desire.

    but limit combat till the absolute end game that you have to specialize in something to be able to be effective... also wouldn't hurt to make the game dark souls level of unforgiving of fuckups.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 12/02/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    That game was easy to follow so you must just be an idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:36 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you had trouble with understanding FFXIII at any point you are mentally retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:51 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, if they manage to make an open world game, they beaten skyrim, everything else is shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    So agreeing with ya.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:36 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    So they plan on being shittier? Japanese love Bethesda games because of their ability to mod. Any clothes, body type, creatures, poses. It's like their own Illusion games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:43 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He said nothing about the game play he said the world that skyrim is in, FFXIII Lightnings return will be more vast apparently.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:09 31/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yup, it doesn't take much to make better game than skyrim.

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    Comment by Dia
    23:55 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    My thoughts exactly! I was lucky to choose an archer for my first character, as the mage I made after completing the game was completely unfun to play.

    To be honest, even the NES Final Fantasys beat Skyrim's combat system...

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    Comment by WEL
    09:34 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    compete on scale.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:53 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.7)

    They can do whatever they want if I can make Noel and Hope and Snow run around naked.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:15 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I don't think his role as a human shield would be as effective with no protection. Unless he has a cock so big it can deflect attacks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:36 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Snow would have a foot long censor bar.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:35 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I approve of this in order to see the world fall into chaos from the collective female orgasm and multiple women dying of nosebleeds.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:14 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.7)

    And here is the usual FF/Lightning bashing.
    Give it a rest already.

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    Comment by Kurtis
    02:45 29/07/2013 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I tried to bash Lightning once. It was a shocking experience.

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    Comment by Shaolan-kun
    05:12 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I see what you did there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:49 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I DID bash Lightning once. I rode it out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:17 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    She must be disappointing with your lightning speed stamina.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:49 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    With my lightning-speed recovery she never noticed a single pause.

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    Comment by DonoPatay
    22:52 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    You wa SHOCK!

    I bet you did.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:25 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    ride the Lightning!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:53 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    as expected of a crack addict

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:51 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Get over yourself, dare-kid. "Ride the Lightning" is an OLD expression (even by modern standards).

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Square Enix continues to focus on the wrong things. They just don't get it, do they?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:58 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    >boardroom filled with aging men
    >same men that molest women on trains
    >same men that pay underage girls for sex

    is it any surprise that they don't understand anything beyond thinking with their dicks?

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:48 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Their impotent, minuscule, non-existent dicks? LOL no wonder they try to compensate and pretend they have one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:17 12/02/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you dont fucking like it don't play the games... Simple solution.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:46 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    probably they are thinking with limited resources at hand, it is the best solution instead of investing almost all their money on something new that they will probably mess up again. It is like they know they are screwed.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:32 29/07/2013 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Nomnomnom yeah! tears!

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:43 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Beating Skyrim isn't all that hard, considering that Skyrim, when you really break it down, it kind of a shitty game.. Like.. a REALLY shitty game, that just has a ton of stuff in it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    In short, a shit box with a lot of shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:46 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Luckily that shit can be polished with mods... But even then it's just shit that shines.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:55 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    weaboos can't into anything not jrpg

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:11 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    agreed, who says that consumers don't know better? i guess they didn't get the memo not to think for themselves. lol. what a fucking idiot. there will always be folks who bash something because it's popular. however, you cannot deny skyrim's success.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:11 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't bother, Skyrim defenders. Sankaku's mind is set on this one, your comments will be downvoted.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:03 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    So many Skyrim haters here...
    I know what you'll do. You'll down vote this too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:44 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    He is talking about most of the consumers being stupid sheep that jump on anything being hyped, wich in case of skyrim is pretty accurate.
    If skyrim would'nt had mods, noone would care shit about it after 2 months.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:14 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are plenty of good games that don't sell well for many reasons. There are also shitty games that sell well because of consumers that don't know better. It's foolish to think good sales = good game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:11 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    That argument would've hold some water if Skyrim's DLC didn't sell pretty dame good as well.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Consider the amount that it sold, the numbers of DLCs purchased, and the large numbers of active modders. I say you guys are in the minority.

    Comment by Anonymous

    "Consumers that don't know better". What the fuck is wrong with you? Dammit, if people have fun playing a game, it's good! Period.

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    Comment by Rinfinite
    11:14 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.4)

    delicious lightning

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:06 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Fucking square Enix turning Lightning from a serious woman into a sex whore

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:38 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Did not understand how everybody is taking conclusions by just a pose, and change from C to D, still seems small.
    They do not say anything about personality change to look bad ass must be flat and have personality male or lesbian?
    If nothing changes everyone thinks it is the same copy and past the other versions, changed the size of the chest and put on a sexy pose ...... game over man game over ...
    Comparing Skyrim with FF is like trying to mix water and oil, rpgs asia x West will probably never reach a middle ground ..

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:06 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.6)

    You are speaking the truth, and yet you have no upvote.

    To bad I have no account on Sankaku, if I do and if I allowed, I will upvote you thousand times. The finger cramp of pushing upvote button, I won't mind it at all.

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    Comment by Unknown Squid
    14:52 29/07/2013 # ! Good (+0.3)

    When even Sankaku commentators are crying foul and deploring the objectification of a female video game character, saying things you'd expect to hear on a feminist blog, that's when you know you've fucked up.

    And I agree with the general consensus here.
    Lighting was a soldier. Serious, strong and determined, with a more practically themed yet still entirely feminine look/outfit, striking a good balance of fantasy and respectable aesthetic.

    And now she's dressed as (?) a cat girl, in a cleavage exposing top and red miniskirt, with her bust sized increased, and leaning over in a provocative pose.

    When will the clueless businessmen behind these kinds of choices learn, that a character or franchise is not just a brand name that you attach to whatever putty you think will sell. They work so hard to maintain their own intended "corporate image", and yet treat the identity of their products like fickle and disposable cash cows.

    I don't even care about FFXIII, but I see this treatment of characters and franchises far too much.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Fanservice is actually common in Japan. Even a super serious character like Chris Redfield have this fanservice of sailor outfit treatment..

    http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/615019541106711724/6003470CB7F31044D059CA19F2DD60C95830C450/

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:03 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    In addition, the costume will not change Lighting. The strong and determined Lightning, will remain the same.

    Apparently you are missing why there are DLC costume in games. One of the reason why it was made so that the player feel different/funny while playing a game with a character with a definite sets of characterization, in an outfit that so contradicting with his/her characteristic.

    Playing as Lightning with her usual dress can be boring during 20-ish hours playtime, you are looking at the same pink head, grey cloth and brown boots (a serious looking attire) character for a really long time so the the contras looking costume can breath a fresh air. The same also apply for the second replay, a DLC costume can bring motivation for player to play again in the funky dress.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:26 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    So I was downvoted, for no apparent reason.. Most likely feminist that are burnt on their asses, but cannot thinking anything to counter my argument.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:18 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't like how they make all those fanservice outfits, be it cute, sexy or "cool" (like the Cloud uniform - I dislike it)...

    The outfit DLCs and also the D-cup change show that Squeenix doesn't take the game seriously... all they want is earning more money through fanservice (and lots of people will buy this crap DLC). As they love social games, which also empty one's wallet, this game is the same.
    Sure, it's optional, but that doesn't make it good.

    Another thing... the game will be ridiculous when Lightning talks all seriously and wants to save the world... while wearing revealing cosplay with her bust jiggling as if it were Tekken or DoA lol
    Just imagine Yuna crying about all the dead people while wearing a bikini... funny neh?
    Or imagine princess Dagger, wearing a goth outfit... how about Aerith in a pink leotard walking through the church, slums and in her flower garden?
    All of that would ruin the games lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:16 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its is optional.

    Did you miss the official Lightning cloth in FF 13-3? You can and you will default-ly use that cloth, and not this optional try to be different cloth.

    The main play-through, the tear fest Yuna you want to play as you trying to make as an example, you still wearing the serious cloth, after you finish the game and extract all those emotional impact in your head then you can try these cat girl attire so there are a reason to play the game again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:00 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Don't blame the character, and stop using words like "whore." Blame Square Enix for this kind of shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:03 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Will you shut up?

    You seriously don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about, so just stop.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Fuck off bitch

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:50 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    @19:42

    The problem is that these days an entire female character's worth IS based on her breast size. Don't deny it. This was just a dick move by SE leaders to try and make anything XIII-related sell more.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    No. I'm sick of gamers like you that judge an entire character's worth based on her breast size or if she has alternate costumes available that are or aren't completely to your liking.

    You don't even seem to know what a "sex whore" is. Just stop.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 01/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @21:01

    You've made it pretty apparent that you're underage for even being on this site.

    To argue with a 12 year old is pointless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:42 30/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    @20:50

    Why wouldn't I deny it when it blatantly isn't true, though? The only people who are making breast size a big deal are the people who make a giant deal out of sex appeal or make have this idea in their head that strong women characters can never have large breasts, when I'm pretty sure people and body types come in all shapes and sizes.

    Female characters, breast large or small, have been critically acclaimed.

    I've never even noticed her breast size and I can still only tell the difference when I squint. Did you ever think maybe Toriyama is an artist and simply thought it might look better to him if the size was made a little bit bigger? Seriously, what difference would it make? Nobody's going to buy this game solely because she's one cup size larger, at least when it's so unnoticeable and I'm pretty sure they know that. In fact, they haven't even mentioned it, until they were asked about it in this interview.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @19:42
    more like "I'm sick of guys like you that judge an entire character's worth based on her breast size or if she has alternate costumes available that are or aren't completely to your liking."

    What's wrong, your father rape you for dressing like a white? Or are you just a fat cunt, whom no one wants to fuck. You disgusting landwhale.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:31 03/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who serius woman lol, Lightning have the personality of a stone or more simple 0 CHARM. This nubbies gamers of today.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:33 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    How is she now a sex whore? since when has one outfit change the character i think you need to rethink some things

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:51 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    The way she pose with that outfit?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:06 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If that's what only take for you to call a woman a whore, that's fucked up as many celebrities, actresses basically doing the same thing on photograph session.. same cleavage, and same pose..

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    Comment by SpideyPHL
    14:17 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's a copy from the Migo'te (that outfit is borrowed from FFXIV) who are fanservicey catgirl types. The pose is a copy, as well, so don't read too much into it.

    I liked FFXIII a bit and I thought FFXIII-2 improved on a lot of FFXIII's weaknesses, but they need to stop making grandiose statements like this. Note even in the quote, though, I get the impression that "this isn't as good as skyrim but that was our aim." I'd say some of the announced things, like making the entire game based on timed stuff, aren't looking good though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:05 29/07/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, those celebrities and actresses ARE whore lol

    Nah, not really. To call those women "whores" is wrong, still they don't have any decency doing those poses, naked photo-shoots, wearing revealing outfits etc.
    From a classical, uptight viewpoint it's amoral and "slutty" to be an oversexualised woman showing off their goods.










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