40% of Young Japanese: “Marriage Is Worthless!”

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Japan’s younger generations increasingly fail to see the point of marriage at all, with a survey of 37,000 revealing some 40% feel the institution “has no merit.”

A survey of 37,610 Japanese asking the question “Do you agree with the sentiment that ‘I don’t understand the merits of marriage’?” found some distinctly negative attitudes to the merits of marriage in abundance.

Of the total, 33.5% agreed that the merits of wedlock were hard to fathom, still leaving a respectable majority of 66.5% of the opinion the institution has some merit.

However, broken down by age, the younger generations were drastically less likely to see the point of marriage, and the most enthusiastic support seems to come from geriatrics:

・Teens: 38.0%
・Twenties: 39.1%
・Thirties: 40.5%
・Forties: 35.9%
・Fifties: 27.2%
・Sixties: 19.7%
・Seventies: 14.3%
・Eighties: 15.3%

Leaving aside the question of whether they experience much choice in the matter anyway, the online masses are generally of the “meritless” persuasion:

“If you’ve no money the demerits obviously outweigh the merits.”

“Spending your life with someone you love seems a pretty big merit?”

“Nobody doesn’t understand the merits I think. It’s just that weighed against the demerits it is pretty lacking for them.”

“People who weigh the pros and cons like that probably should not get married. Unless they are OK with becoming someone’s exclusive ATM, anyway.”

“Nobody who weighs it up is going to get married. It takes transient extremes of passion and emotion.”

“Seeing my old classmates with families does kind of make me want to marry.”

“Being 25 at a class reunion and being surrounded by people with families was psychologically taxing. They were talking about nothing but kids and married life and I had nothing to say.”

“Don’t worry. A few years from now the same lot will be moaning about how much they regret it, how badly they need a divorce, and how horrendous their money troubles are. Let the newly-weds make hay while the sun shines.”

“I’m just left wondering what my kids would have been like if I had got married back then.”

“All the merits are stuff like a household and social standing… which are becoming much less necessary.”

“I got married and honestly shouldn’t have. But kids are good!”

“All the people around me in their forties and fifties are constantly divorcing and adultery is rife amongst them. Other than as a contractual basis for raising children I don’t see the point.

“I’m left wondering how many of these hard-working fathers are spending decades raising another man’s seed…”

“The merits and demerits really tend to change depending on what’s going on in your life.”

“For women the merit of being able to economically parasitise a man is very clear, but for men there really isn’t much merit.”

“There are no merits to a man any longer. You really have to try hard to make it look good.”

“I basically see marriage as agreeing to be host to a leech which will drain your essence completely. If only my sow of a wife would disappear somehow…”

“No merit. But in your late thirties it can be painful with the way people look at you.”

“Really? Just point out how free you are to pursue your goals in life without marriage tying you down.”

“You’ll need a 3LDK residence near a station, and even in the countryside you can expect to blow half your paycheck just on that. Impossible.”

“Take a look at the wages on offer at the job centre. Nobody could raise a family on those. Instead of just blaming young people the government might want to look at those.”

“I just don’t see the point of marriage (with a non-virgin).”

“Come on, marrying the love of your life is a pretty big merit however you look at it!”

“You guys who see only demerits are weaklings! What, you think marriage means you do everything your wife tells you!?”

“Merits! Date someone and if you want to spend more time together marry!”

“What, you think you can be together with someone if you don’t marry?”

“It is nothing but merits for women. I’d like to have seen them separate these results by gender…”

“That’s because the whole point of it is to benefit the woman. It would be mostly demerits to any working woman too.”

“Let’s not forget, the official statistics show 237,000 couples divorced in the last year and they estimate a third of marriages end this way.”

“If a third pull off a divorce, expect another third to want one but be unable to get it for whatever circumstance, leaving perhaps a third in happy marriages? Those are not good odds, I wouldn’t take that bet.”

“You singletons, who’ll look after you when you’re sick or injured? Do you even have girlfriends?”

“A delivery health session once a week is good enough for me. A new type of girl every time!”

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  • Anonymous says:

    The problem with a lot of marriages in Japan is that everyone cheats!!! And even if you’re not cheating, you’re not even allowed to speak to members of the opposite sex if you’re in a relationship because people think you’re cheating. I don’t think there’s much merit in a Japanese marriage when the men sleep with women at their work place/on company trips, and the women sleep with men who are married. It’s seriously messed up.

  • Anonymous says:

    my step dad had to give 2/3 of everything he had to his ex wife despite the fact that she was the one that cheated on him. The court also gave her their children and his house because she doesn’t have a job and hell, she doesn’t need one.

    Now he married my mum… I’ve always told him he’s stupid. Should have gotten a sex change and quit his job when his ex wife cheated on him.

  • Rokudaime says:

    My Uncle and my “Aunt” have been together for some 30 years, and have been living together in the same house for some 25 years, and have 3 kids, one who is over 18, and two younger twins who turned 15 this year. And they have been happy together in all that time, both before and after they became a family. But have they ever married? No. Have they ever felt any need to marry? No.

    Seriously, I’m surprised there are still so many people in this modern age that don’t seem to realise/understand this, but marriage is not a prerequisite/necessity in order for a couple to live happily together for the rest of their lives. The benefits are few, and in the event of a divorce, the downsides can become huge, so the only real reason to marry is if you do it for religious reasons/beliefs. If you’re an atheist like me, my Uncle, and my “Aunt”, then there is no good reason to marry, and it certainly isn’t a necessity. Peer pressure is not a reason. Don’t ever give in to that. Only marry if both parties really want to, and have some good reason/incentive to do so.

  • Anonymous says:

    This is really, really sad.
    As a girl, I just want to get married and have a lifetime commitment with a man and work hard to support our family by his side, is that too much to ask for with today’s society?

  • Anonymous says:

    Considering the population of Japan, 37,000 people isn’t really much of a sampling. Was the survey nationwide or localized? An otaku in Akiba wouldn’t have the same opinion as a farmer in Hokkaido and neither would agree with a shopkeeper in Osaka. As Mark Twain said, “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.”.

  • Anonymous says:

    well, that means some percentage of single man salary or wages goes to prostitutes every week because they choose not to get married

    and for women they can become single forever, or become next new wife of a president or CEO/Owner of a big company, so that 1 person can have too many wives, and produce too many children, and later that bog family declare a new kingdom in the next century

  • Anonymous says:

    i have been married for 7 years, and i hate every single day i wasted it in it.
    if it is not for my child i would divorce and be single forever. but the kid has no fault in this shit marrige, and i have to take responsibility.
    i hate my life.

  • If a woman would try to take advantage of me by taking my kids, house, income, etc. I’d just pull a Shatner.

    His wife wanted to divorce him and ruin him and he just killed her and got away with it.

    Guys just need to man up and understand that if she wants to “kill” you, you have to fucking kill her first!

    And do it in style, like the Shat!

  • Anonymous says:

    But marriage IS useless. You basically pay a shitton of money for an overdramatic ceremony, expensive jewellery, just to get a stupid fucking paper that says that you two are now bound to each other and that you once again need to pay a shitton of money when you want to divorce. Like you can live together and get kids together when you’re not married too so marriage is just super stupid.

  • Anonymous says:

    Well the title sums it up pretty well, marriage truly is worthless and there is no merit watsoever, If you love someone and you want to spend the rest of your life you can do so without getting married, if it doesn’t work well, you can just let it go..on the other hand, getting divorced and then who gets the house,kids, etc…nothing good comes out of it.

  • Anonymous says:

    I can agree to that, nothing but black widow murder their new husbands every 3 years for a 10 million money life insurance policy. Might not be fully healthy but instead of being dead at 26 which would have been their plan, can live to be 49 even 50! …….. Groups make plans on YOUR LIFE the moment YOU are BORN even if they no not youre family or ever will. Stalkers.

  • Anonymous says:

    “Take a look at the wages on offer at the job centre. Nobody could raise a family on those. Instead of just blaming young people the government might want to look at those.”

    100% true around the globe, large corporations are driving everyone into poverty, where only leeches clinging to government programs can raise kids.

  • Anonymous says:

    “Spending your life with someone you love seems a pretty big merit?”

    Because a piece of paper keeps two people together and in love, right… you can tell this response came from some bimbo, only they’d be stupid enough to think this.

    • Unworkable, economically, in today’s world. Unless something changes. You’d need ALL members of the group contributing to the health of the whole and the full loving support of a stable group relationship. Sadly, jealousy, unspoken high expectations, and hurt feelings usually result in such an arrangement. It’s beautiful, in fiction. But that’s all it is. Fiction.

      If you’re an executive earning millions or billions a year, okay, maybe I could see someone like that being ballsy enough to go for it (if he’s still young, dumb, and full of cum). But most execs are too old and wiley to be caught by that particular piranha trap.

    • Anonymous says:

      lol what? that would never work. generally speaking, bitches rarely get along with another. ever notice a lot of females don’t have many female friends, while having many male friends?

      this is because females are always trying to compete with another and gossiping. yet females hate that crap, but do it anyway. so they only have a limited number of female friends. and in a polygamous relationship, it’d simply intensify.

      doubt me? watch some of those mormon documentaries, you’ll find that a number of the women are competing with another for attention/favoritism and do not like/get along with another.

    • Anonymous says:

      Fuck the losers in this thread who think they’re so wise about what “love” and marriage and relationships are all about. I HAVE know couples who have been happy with each other for decades since they met, and I’ve always wanted what they have. Rather than trying to call it all hogwash and looking for a way to live without these things, I’ve taken the challenge to educate myself to try my best and do things right the first time, although even if I’m knocked off my horse I’ll get right back on and won’t wallow in pity and regret. I couldn’t live with myself knowing I gave up on my hopes, desires, and dreams without even trying. I don’t just want sex from a woman but also her friendship and partnership. I want to actually love a woman back. Maybe I’m just lucky having grown up a romantic even as a boy, I can get beyond what’s stereotypically seen as the “male psyche”.

      That said, I don’t care about marriage mostly because I think it’s a weak institution and I don’t care for consummating my relationship under the eyes of god, government, or anyone else in society. I just want a lover for my life. I’ve already met a girl who feels the same way about it.

      • “Fuck the losers in this thread who think they’re so wise about what “love” and marriage and relationships are all about. ”
        -Fuck you too. what else ya got.

        “I HAVE know couples who have been happy with each other for decades since they met, and I’ve always wanted what they have.”
        -They are the minority, and if you know so many statistically chances are you won’t have it yourself. And I’m pretty sure you know more broken relationships than ones that are fine like most people in the world

        “and I’ve always wanted what they have.”
        -Because you are weak and need a woman to make you feel better about yourself.

        “I couldn’t live with myself knowing I gave up on my hopes, desires, and dreams without even trying. ”
        -Sounds like a line from bleach or naruto. Believe it. Be careful trying to implement things you learn from anime into reality. A woman is your hope desire and dream? That’s pretty sad. You’re just another person who’s ‘hopes desires and dreams’ have been fed to them by society. You have been taught and indoctrinated on what things to aspire for in life and its gotten so deep inside your subconscious you think that its your own idea.

        ” I don’t just want sex from a woman but also her friendship and partnership. I want to actually love a woman back. Maybe I’m just lucky having grown up a romantic even as a boy, I can get beyond what’s stereotypically seen as the “male psyche”.
        -Every male whos gotten divorced has thought like this you are not special. And with the divorce rate what it is, good luck schmuck.

        “I just want a lover for my life. I’ve already met a girl who feels the same way about it.”
        -Could you ask her to give you your testicles back? That or take your computer away and spare us. If your relationship is so awesome why are you on a anime porn site btw? Are you really here for the news on ‘top 10 anime girl with blue hair’?

  • Frankly the institution of Marriage has been under assault. And IMO the reason for it is to make men more inferior. They want those who are superior, that is able to make a living despite a sabotaged economy, responsible enough to stay at a thing if it’s good, intelligent enough to strive for things, etc. to have every incentive NOT to marry.

    This is done by allowing divorce, making the man the target in these laws and filling the media with pure diahreehic crap lies, like “lifelong love, soul mates, etc.”

    Get a clue…

    Here’s some “Western Wisdom”…

    —Famous circuit judge:

    “Hokay! You both wanna marry?”

    “Yes, they do…” says the farmer with a shotgun, next to another farmer with a shotgun. The young man is in his Sunday best and has a black eye, the young woman is wearing a hastily made bridal dress, likely her mothers, but modified because its got a big bulge in the belly…

    “Ah needs mah fee!”

    The grooms both give him some dollars or a bottle of whiskey, good stuff.

    “Hokay! By da power vested in me in the Lord’s name I do pronounce thee man and wife and may God Almighty ha’ mercy on your souls!”

    Frankly, even in western culture, we’ve tried to breed ourselves to eventually create a “Superman”. Long ago there was this civilization called “Atlantis” that was made up of people primarily descended from the “Sons of God” beings that came from the stars be they supernatural or extraterrestrial and bred with man. So the most ancient empires were of them. But over time they went corrupt and degenerated and the Deluge came. The survivors fled north to purify themselves.

    So, though we mostly did it by tending to shoot and stab each other, and the harshness of life, most marriages have been arranged. Many for pure money/power, but doing this tended to weaken noble houses preventing them from being entrenched. Most middle range society marriages were careful arrangements to make a better person, lower end ones or frontier ones who survived tended to be better.

    The weakness was that it was primarily male oriented. They wanted the superman to be the male, with the female the companion to him. So men got stronger and stronger and smarter, women were meant to be pretty and able to bear children. Thus, without strong social penalties the women would rebel against it and mate with people only good at talking them into bed. Frankly, being of a “Bardic” line I can’t cast the first stone there, but at least we could tell a tale on the fly and sing for supper through the worst famines and plagues. Men also tended to like any exotic woman, such as smaller brown ones if available, and again strong social penalties were needed to prevent them from wasting their breeding de-elevating themselves on slave races.

    The controllers fearing a modern society that wants a huge prosperous class and a microscopic poor class at the cost of a lower high class are doing everything they can to stop it. The vilest of it is the destruction of marriage and social expectations. They betray mankind itself, destroying thousands of years of suffering and planned breeding by making a society where the inferior breed more, the weaklings survive and thrive and the strong only have more weight put upon them.

    Japan should fight this like mad.
    Put it to the Politicians that seemingly can only whine someone masturbates to Loli…but defend their own child rape novels as ‘literature’… Point out they are pathetic failures who need to solve the disease, not the symptoms.

    Turn back the clock a bit. Make it so a man dominates a marriage, that if a woman leaves it she gets maybe the clothes on her back and then gets sued for desertion. Make it harder for women to find work, but then become a huge tax break and economic boom when married. And make it clear to big companies, you want influence and tax breaks and subsidies? Fine, but the cost is you have tons of salarymen who are married who get good wages so they can spend that $ and the economy works again! You always whined for tax breaks, subsidies, ignorance of many laws because you said you kept Japan at work and prosperous, well we hold you to that! Ones that automate, outsource or hire foreigners get taxed and taxed to pay to subsidize ones that do it right.

    You see, letting a woman work (1) is the biggest LIE out there. You effectively double the workforce but the only goal is to degrade the man, including with the feminism lie “I want to earn as much as that MAN!” screams the woman yelling at the man, “Don’t worry, toots! We are lowering his wage as fast as we can!” says the pig traitor.

    Really, imagine turning back the clock, tons of jobs – for MEN – that pay 2.5 times as much effectively… That’s what you get when the work is done by MEN and non-foreigners and they are the ONLY workers for most jobs. Even the NEET gets kicked out, told to work or he won’t have rent when he’s pushed into his new apartment… But he’ll have work and likely workplace counselors to help adjust and tons of fellow NEETs no longer so he’s not that weird. And when he comes home, sure enough a compatible woman cleaning his home out, tossing the Loli stuff, and preparing dinner and bed.

    Now, I don’t want to degrade women or make them slaves. But they should be in home. And a woman cleaning, cooking, being a wife is a very beautiful thing. Women maintain the household, men provide and protect it. Simple.

    1… There will be secretaries and maids of course, but those are temporary jobs for the most part. And whores, but it seems even now the whores are suffering for the NEETs are so pathetic they can’t even work up the courage/energy to pay for it.

  • as a married man who grew up raised by a single mom and her on again off again live in boyfriend, I gotta say it sucks to grow up witthout a sense of security, let alone the inherent poverty and breakups.

    I have no regrets marrying. I have a best friend and partner who I have plans with for life. Who won’t leave me when i grow old and inconvienient or will provide if I lose my job. enjoy your wizardry

  • Anonymous says:

    im not married but i can travel wherever i want i have stable job i can but whatever i want, date and sex? no problem i have money

    just choose your life, family or freedom.. but be sure befire yu pick yu have stable income

  • Anonymous says:

    … Why marry if you want to spend more time with someone… is that concept really that foreign in Japan? Just live with the person you love, a piece of paper doesn’t dictate if you can or not.

    • Anonymous says:

      Social pressure.

      As with everything in a typical Japanese life, it’s being dictated by repressive norms that are solely meant to crush individualism and the ability of thought and reason.

      I’m not kidding you. Japanese society only wants working drones. Outlets like animation/porn etc are only “accepted” because otherwise their suicide rate would be even higher. Lately, the government relized that there is a real trend towards criticism (albeit small), which is why we see those ridiculous examples of increased censorship/anti-anything bills and bans.

  • Thank you arte for posting this. Now people will have a hard time figuring out something stupid to say to try to oppose me. I suspect I’ll have very few replies on this topic HA HA HA. Was this your way of shutting up all the morons following me thread after thread telling me how stupid me and my positions are by showing millions of people who agree with them? I appreciate it. Ha ha and yes I said millions because if they were to poll more people this poll and other like it show the striking trend. Sankaku unfortunately is filled with the world is flat type thinkers and these people always slow down progress. Sad sad. Seems like Taylor was right after all and Taylors the smart one. I accept all of your apologies.

  • Anonymous says:

    Extinction, very possible in in Japan. I won’t be shocked if Japan will be forced to make some sort of machine that is able to make babies that deviate from the traditional sense.

    • So they pick their son, pick their daughter too, from the bottom of a long glass tube? Well, no need for husbands or wives then.
      You know, with all those fatass hikikomori they might invent some machines that help them move or do things without bothering their arms and legs. They might not even need teeth or eyes in the end.
      And it realy wouldn’t be too surprising if the japanazis advocate some mandatory pill that takes away the ability to lie.

    • If the birth rate every really does become and ACTUAL problem, then the Japanese government will just offer women MONEY to get pregnant more often and you know if there become a legal upstanding means for women to be lazy shits and do nothing but get fucked and make money, there will be no shortage of women signing up for it and great nippon will endure forever.

      • Vallen Chaos Valiant says:

        I don’t know about Singapore, but here in Australia we got Baby Bonus too. This is no longer a theory, but a fact. Governments are desperate for more babies. But just a cash bonus isn’t enough. For example, Japan need more childcare centres. They can’t expect women to quit their jobs to raise children in this day and age. But because the expectation is women shouldn’t work, there is not enough affordable childcare. And being tight financially means no one can afford to quit working.

      • Anonymous says:

        Japan would never give women money for just birthing children. This is because it would kill the sex industry middle aged businessmen cling to.

        If anything, they would offer supplementary income for part-time women with children, above a certain age limit. Say 30 to 40 years of age, which would keep the more desirable age bracket free for those geriatrics to pursue ‘compensated dating’ with.

        • Anonymous says:

          Quick google search tells you that they already do.

          Jun 7, 2007 – Cash for Kids: Japan Offers ‘Baby Bonus’ … Japan is using a controversial new strategy to boost its birthrate: It’s offering financial incentives to …

        • I don’t see any arguments against my points and only angry rants about my character that has hurt your feelings so I’m going to ignore you people. I don’t bother responding to emotional males like you. Say something smart if you want to gain my attention. Stick and stones may break by bones, but using logic to argue against me will surely hurt you. 🙂

        • My link was relevant, you just failed to understand the correlation I was making.

          Your link had nothing to do with the point I was arguing which I thought was obvious that it was about whether or not its ‘working’ which is why I guess you didn’t understand why I linked what I did.

          Where is your proof that says it isn’t working? Your linked an article that talks about new plans that only began seven months ago.

          So its “not working” means in the 7 months its been implemented its not working? You do realize families aren’t instantly created right? It takes years to make the decision to start one and thats years after finding the right person. At the very least it takes 9 months to have a baby.

          7 months ago the plan became law.
          9 months it takes to have a baby.
          You say its not working.

          Ok. Let’s let the conversation end there.

        • Anonymous says:

          Population density rates and the conscience of the fines a child might inadvertently incur.

          When governments need infrastructure they don’t dispatch agents to the media to moan about how people aren’t building enough roads. Instead they specifically assign the construction tasks to identities – and reimburse them.

        • Anonymous says:

          That’s because I’m not trying to debate you. I’m trying to tell you just how twisted a human being you really are (or are pretending to be). Also, I believe everybody else here already gave you the answers to wanted.

          So get your head out of your ass.

        • Anonymous says:

          Most certainly. I think you’re either a very successful and realistic troll, who has certainly won my respect for creating posts that are so irresistibly stupid people can’t help but respond to them and I blame myself for falling every time. That, or you’re some deluded faggot who has seriously gotten the idea that he’s on to something with his uniquely horrible (not to mention juvenile) way of looking at the world and his lulzy “2D Revolution” idea–who also thinks he knows something about women when he, based on his posts, probably knows NOTHING about them or spent any real time with them. You also like to pretend intelligence you do not have, and powers of logic and persuasion beyond your capacity. (Which is supremely irritating)

          In short, pat yourself in the back because you are so monumentally stupid that I couldn’t help but take notice of you and be intrigued. Of course, if you really ARE a troll, then I would admittedly be the bigger moron, but if you are serious about your cause for “2D dominance” then, I raise my hat to you, good sir Taylor, for you are truly a very special kind of idiot.

        • Anonymous says:

          Most certainly. I think you’re either a very successful and realistic troll, who has certainly won my respect for creating posts that are so irresistibly stupid people can’t help but respond to them and I blame myself for falling every time. That, or you’re some deluded faggot who has seriously gotten the idea that he’s on to something with his uniquely horrible (not to mention juvenile) way of looking at the world and his lulzy “2D Revolution” idea–who also thinks he knows something about women when he, based on his posts, probably knows NOTHING about them or spent any real time with them. You also like to pretend intelligence you doe not have, and powers of logic and persuasion beyond your capacity. (Which is supremely irritating)

          In short, pat yourself in the back because you are so monumentally stupid that I couldn’t help but take notice of you and be intrigued. Of course, if you really ARE a troll, then I would admittedly be the bigger moron, but if you are serious about your cause for “2D dominance” then, I raise my hat to you, good sir Taylor, for you are truly a very special kind of idiot.

        • Anonymous says:

          See primus, this half-baked kid just talks while trying to convince himself he said different when his own words comes back and bite him in the pussy. His words gets bitch slapped back, he does a u turn like a faggot high school kid when everyone can see he is just backpedaling.

          This kid is just trying to scrape together his fucked up non existent self-confidence since everyone else is laughing at him for being a clown bitch in everyone’s eyes.

        • You linked up and raise a completely irrelevant point.

          Firstly, obviously Singapore have different priorities than child birth, but Japan also have their own economies to take care of and both of these issues ultimately resulted in the requirement of a larger work force.

          Also, heard of Singapore’s “Baby Bonus” policy?
          YEs, the government has been using money to let Singaporeans have more children for quite some time now, and it’s not effective. (Hence the initial statement, “Not working.”)

          http://sg.news.yahoo.com/bigger-baby-bonus–paternity-leave-announced-054119367.html

          “And also depends on what you define as working.”

          If that’s the excuse you are going to give, then there isn’t any point since you might as well see the same word as me but have a different meaning.

  • I think it’s because marriage has become an informal agreement in most parts of the world. Spend a huge amount on a ceremony to say “till death do us part,” only to get cheated on (whether you’re bride or groom,) and no real penalty to the cheater – in many cases, they may even get alimony after they’re turfed out, and in ugly cases, fight for additional assets and things of value you may hold.

    So… the benefit is what, again? A few economic incentives and legal household status? In an increasingly secular world, marriage should maybe regain some sanctity – since religiously it cannot hold, then let it be legally. Heavy penalties on anyone who has an affair. There’s nothing wrong with that – as responsible adults, let the cheater break the contract first, THEN fool around with whoever they like. As it is, there’s no security in marriage, at least in Westernized nations. It’s just a liability.

    • I have observed the human population for a long time and have come to the conclusion that it isn’t marriage that is the problem. It is that both spouses enter the relationship with no real idea about who each other are as humans and unless they make a mutual agreement to grow and work out issues together, progress is unlikely. Children early in the marriage is also an instigator for stress, yet many humans have children without much of a second thought. Population growth is important, but all this does is assure the less-fit for society’s challenges are the only ones having children and raising them in such an inefficient manner. The system for living that humans have created over the centuries has been an interestingly substancial one, but emotions truly have been the harbinger for contradiction and disaster. If you are all going to marry for love, then why can’t you stick to that love? わけが分からない

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s pretty much suck to raise and spend all the money for child that actually not even yours. So, I agree, cheaters need penalty. If they want to be with other people, file a divorce.

      No two timing and make their partner raise a kid’s that not even their responsibility.

      • Anonymous says:

        Native Americans have a proverb that says it’s not the descendants who inherit the Earth from their ancestors, but it’s the ancestors who are borrowing it from the descendants.

    • Anonymous says:

      Your honor, how is this amendment supposed to introduce security if you’re using patronizing vocabulary such as ‘incentive’?

      Are they supposed to raise funds by issuing shares?

    • So many sankakus disagree with me in their replies to me, then on topics like this agree with everything Ive ever said. Interesting. Anyone know the psychological term for people who have their feelings hurt them become blindly emotional and disagree with you even when they really agree?

      • Anonymous says:

        This pretty much proves that you only see the human race as two large groups – male and female, and you completely generalize both all the time. When one man talks and you agree with him then he’s talking for all men, and when any woman talks she’s talking for all women and whatever she’s saying is automatically garbage, and the men who you disagree with you all “secretly agree” with you anyways, so ultimately the world is just 2 groups of hive minds to you.

      • Often it’s as simple as people have different perspectives on different topics. Many tell me they often agree with my opinions on some things, and yet I step in objectively and give a game or something some credit, and I’m a pariah.

        It all depends how much a listener/reader is in the willingness to discuss or converse. I just don’t care if someone disagrees with me, because one way or another I either learn I’m wrong about something, learn something new about the topic I may not have known before, or learn that I may happen to know things about a topic most others don’t, and then I get to see whether or not it makes them angry or intrigued.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you want ‘a term for people’, then you might be going for ‘lobbyists’. But there are plenty of uses for indignation (actual or pretend) in group inclusion/exclusion enforcement dynamics so it’d be hard to guess what you mean without context.

  • Anonymous says:

    The fact remains that in the United States in 2012, the divorce rate is still around 50%, the same as it has been for decades, broken down as follows:
    a) first marriages 41% end in divorce
    b) second marriages 60% end in divorce
    c) third marriages 73% end in divorce

    The following things happen to a man when he gets divorced: First, the judge says that the woman is the natural caregiver, so the man loses custody of his children. Then the judge says that since she has the children, she needs the house, so he loses his house. Then the judge says that since she has the children and the house, she needs his money, so he loses a substantial part of his paycheck. This happens in virtually every case. He is lucky to still have his tool kit as the legal system kicks him out the door. The reason why there are so many divorces from the woman’s standpoint is simple. She can easily get all his assets and no longer have to put up with him.

    The problem is that since no-fault divorce is freely available in the U.S., he could have been the best man and a father anyone could have been, but he still loses everything.

    Hardly a day goes by any more that I do not congratulate myself on being single.

    • Anonymous says:

      You forgot about losing 1/2 your pension.

      All my friends who got married, came back and told me to never get married, after they got divorced.

      The best was a bud of mine who adopted her kid and then had another kid after they married. She decided she wanted new tits, so he starts working OT on weekends to pay for em. As soon as he gave her the cash for her titties, she put him out of the house. She takes her new titties and has a new guy living in his house lickety split. He never even got to suck on the titties he worked so hard for. She got the house, his truck, chunk of pension, child support for his kid, plus the kid he adopted… The judge said she wasn’t employable at the time, so he had to support her until she was… When the kid he adopted turned 18, he went to court the have the child support reduced, and the judge INCREASED the amount he had to pay, all going to 1 kid. Oh, he was pissed after that one.

      My take: If I see everyone who goes swimming in the ocean gets chomped on by a shark, I’ll stay nice and dry on the shore. The swim might be fun for a while, but the risk outweighs the reward…

    • Marriage. In the end even the brides father “traditionally” is expected to pay thousands sometimes tens of thousands for the whole wedding just to get rid of his daughter. How many hours of working and slave labor do you think that amounts to? What’s he mother of the bride expected to do? Help the bride find something blue. Men get fucked till the end.

    • Anonymous says:

      That is an incredibly flawed statistic.
      The formula they use to calculate the 50% divorce rate is

      Divorces in a year/Marriages in a Year

      It doesn’t take into account that the people who got divorced are recently wed or have been married for 50 years.

      • Anonymous says:

        Your statement is incorrect. The statistic I am using is the marriage-to-divorce ratio. This is the statistic that gives you the best understanding of the social impact of divorce, rather than the divorce rate to which you refer. The statistic I was using is obvious from context.

        • Anonymous says:

          My god do you even read what you write

          “Paul Amato has concluded that the half-of-all-marriages-end-in-divorce figure “appears to be reasonably accurate” …”

          This is what you really wanted. Everything above that is completely useless and doesn’t even prove you point or why this Paul Amanto believes it is reasonably accurate. In fact right above that quote.

          “Some authorities suggest that divorce rates may be declining in recent years; other authorities suggest that they are rising.”

          Hey that was written in that SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL too show casing that there is statistics from other SCIENTIFIC JOURNALS that prove otherwise in either direction. I guess you were being selective here.

          Let me tell you something about statistics. They can be changed and manipulated to fit whatever agenda you want. I provided you with social context as to why it’s a blown number. Im done trying to educate dumb people acting smart (nice try with that sci journal once again you didn’t even understand the context of that journal either)

        • Anonymous says:

          See the following quote: “Divorce rates are notoriously hard to pin down (see Amato … 2010). The commonly cited 50% figure derives from the number of divorces per 1,000 people in a given population (in many reports, the US citizenship, based on census figures) compared against the number of weddings per 1,000 people in the same population over the course of a year – a ratio which in recent decades, has remained at or near 1:2 across a range of samples. Other ways at arriving at the 50% statistic depend upon projections based upon data collected in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s, assuming that trends continue into the present day. Some authorities suggest that divorce rates may be declining in recent years; other authorities suggest that they are rising. Taking all these considerations together, however, divorce expert Paul Amato has concluded that the half-of-all-marriages-end-in-divorce figure “appears to be reasonably accurate” …” See Brian D. Earp, et al., “Natural Selection, Childrearing, and the Ethics of Marriage (and Divorce): Building a Case for the Neuroenhancement of Human Relations,” Philosophy & Technology, Vol. 25(4) (Dec. 2012) pp. 561-587) footnote 9.

          This is from a peer-reviewed scientific journal; I think I will accept what it says rather than the maunderings of a group of amateur statisticians. More to the point you are off-topic. The issue before us is why young Japanese are unhappy with the marriage institution. None of you bothered to address my primary point: that when a man winds up in divorce court he gets taken to the cleaners.

        • He’s got a point there if 1 of every 2 marriages end in divorce then by your “marriage-to-divorce ratio” it doesn’t even add up correctly.

          marriages:divorces
          2:1=2 (that’s not %50)

          divorces:marriages
          1:2= 05

          Since your argument hinges on that…you kind of fail here.

        • Anonymous says:

          No you are still incorrect it still doesn’t take into context people who were already married AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THEIR 1ST, 2ND, 3RD, ETC. MARRIAGE AND DIVORE. As you so politely provided it has increased risk of divorce. Skewing the results even more. Doesn’t even account that younger people are more likely as well.

          Fractions and ratios are the same thing and it is not measured marriage-to-divorce ratio. If it is done your way then and its 50% of marriages in divorce then…

          2(marriages) :1(divorces) = ratio of 2?????
          Yeah that doesn’t equal 50% b/c you’re using some idiotic made up equation.

          That statistic shows nothing about the social impact of divorce…smart guy…

          In 2004 census
          162.88 million men and women ever married
          49.68 million men and women ever divorced
          30.5% = men and women, combined, who ever married end up getting divorced

          Your ratio uses a “per 1000 people a year” approach which is a laughable sample size to create such a statistic.

      • Anonymous says:

        Flawed or not, it clearly shows that 50% of married man, sooner or later will loses their kids, their house and half of their income. That, plus even during the marriage, the man’s hard earned money is not even his to manage and control..

        Pretty huge reason to avoid marriage at all cost.

    • Anonymous says:

      You sound like an incredibly bitter and butt hurt guy who’s speaking from experience.

      I guess you will be a deadbeat dad who won’t support his children from the sounds of it….scum

      • Anonymous says:

        Caring for the children aint all that bad, is loosing your house, your car, half your paycheck to a whore wife thats gonna be screwing other guys in what used to be your house, THAT is what pisses a lot of divorcees

        • Anonymous says:

          i really noticed a movement of americans in direction of a certain house which seems to be spoken about in the internet. iron man and rainbow beeing the 2 most relevant. “i dont know this producer actually but this 2 seem “very very very different from the rest of his products” and i wondered a bit… ” but i wouldnt CARE about it.. as its not my ….. house.

          – some random internet guy which likes to watch “car crashes and train accidents” too.

      • Anonymous says:

        You didn’t bother to read what I wrote. I said I was single, i.e., never married. Just smart enough to observe the pains of other men and take heed. I am speaking from experience: the experience of other men. All you have to do is read the newspaper headlines about divorces every day to see what I mean. All you have to do is understand that statistics show that 2/3 of all divorces are initiated by the wives, and that figure is probably low. They initiate divorces because they see no downside for themselves, and in the short run there is no downside for them. Got it, jerk?

        • Anonymous says:

          You talk like raising a child is a burden that everyone loves to avoid at all cost.

          Sure, child need money, but most parent will be very glad to get child living with them after divorce. Dad or mom, its the same.

          Pay for child support, I agree. Giving the house away, not so agree. Better to just sold the house, split the money half and half and the ex-husband and ex-wife each get their own house.That way the guy do not have to pay a house that he not even living in it, and need to pay again for his new home.

          Feed the ex-wife’s until she get a job? Only if the system create for force the ex-wife to get a new job, just lying around pretending she cannot get a job, and make her ex-husband continue feeding her all her life.

          The current divorce system strain the guys financial greatly that it is ridiculous.

          Also, nothing wrong with studying other guys(or friend) fate after marriage, and it also easy to read about it in news/web, and to be wary and cautious about getting married. Most likely he will go the same procedure (of getting all asset ripped out) during his future divorce, anyway.

          ps. My mom work, she’s married(obviously) and she have career, and the career went smooth with no interruption what soever. Career damaged? Please stop the hyperbole.

          Even after the divorce, a woman can negotiate with the ex-husband to get a maid or daycare service to take care the kids, and split the bill.. No damage to career at all.

          Long story short. Support the child, fine. Support the ex-wife? Fuck off.

        • Anonymous says:

          So then YOU should keep the house. While your ex-wife and child are left to the streets. What an awesome fella.

          Even then unless it’s a really big house like you are suggesting. Most of the time The couples sell the house and split the profits.

          It’s also quite rare that the wife gets sole custody of the child unless you were a really shitty dad.

        • Anonymous says:

          You know, I understand the fact that you may need to give the half of your paycheck to help, but you think it’s right losing YOUR HOUSE? I mean, there’s people that buys pretty expensive houses so “their family lives happily”, once they get divorced they still need to pay the house, maybe loaning the house for the children can be ok, but losing it?, hell.

          Hope it happens to you them come back here and say us how it felt.

          However marriage is useless.

          In case someone wants a child, today there are a lot of ways of getting it cheaper than the marriage (Plus instead of expending the money in your wife you can expend it in the child so he/she gets a better life).

          However I believe child are pointless too.

          By being single you doesn’t have to worry about someone to care for you, after all you will have a lot of money that you can expend and get a 1st class medical service.

          When you are old you will have a LOT of money to do whatever you want, namely, travel around the world 1 or 2 times, buy 2 or 3 houses, etc.

          Sorry but the reality is the reality, after all a happy marriage is still considered a “Dream”(bet it’s easier to get into the Bloomberg/Forbes list), a bad one is pretty much guaranteed these days.

        • Anonymous says:

          You know that by being single…It could also mean that you are no longer married, like you went through like I don’t know a divorce or something and so your single now.

          Lol a vicarious experience is no where on the level of a personal one. You are in absolutely no position to be taking that stance as strongly as you do, because “I saw my friend go through it”

          Call me crazy but if you get divorced. The women is raising YOUR child, they need the house more than you do, not to mention you should be supporting your child anyways.

          Also no downside…well she is now a single mother who has to raise your child by herself. Most likely sacrificed her career when she was married to raise the children kind of like your mom raised a little shit like you

      • Get the fug outta here fujoshit.

        Marriage is 100% the fault of women. It was invented by men though! Did you know that? Marriage was invented because women were too busy whoring it out to fuck the only the guy who was paying their rent and feeding their fat asses French bon-bons every day. Men invented marriage as a way of telling women who they could and couldn’t fuck. Like everything else men have ever invented, it completely worked and worked way better than any man thought it would. Women became so indoctrinated by the man-invention of marriage that they’re fucking obsessed with it.

        Marriage is still stupid. It’s a stupid game invented to entertain stupid minds and to teach basic lessons of fidelity that even invertebrates are born with.’

  • Anonymous says:

    “For women the merit of being able to economically parasitise a man is very clear, but for men there really isn’t much merit.”

    This x 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

  • Anonymous says:

    The answer is in “CELL division”

    1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 8 and so on…

    Only beta males have no concept of SPLITING UP the WORKLOAD, and depends on WALLET SIZE TO GET LAID.

    Alpha males dont need to toss money at women to get pussy or have children why?

    Who gives a fuck about money; use it.
    Work for it. Save it? Somewhat, but What good is a Mountian of money gonna do you if you DIE tomarrow.

    Nothing; spend it. Losers.

    Rich people are risk takers, and gambles who go from 1000s of dollars to millions. By risks; not assesments or luck… you sit by idle… and watch those with BALLS to do shit and you MOAN cause it didn’t happen to you?

    The more you fail; you WILL succeed.

    AKA mike jordan… 9000 miss baskets over 200-300 game winning shots MISSED… and look at him though his Career. He even said Those who are afraid to FAIL will never SUCCEED at LOVe, Life, or Money.

  • Anonymous says:

    “Take a look at the wages on offer at the job centre. Nobody could raise a family on those. Instead of just blaming young people the government might want to look at those.”

    ZING!

  • Become good friends with dude, grow up with them, watch them get married.

    And then become that awesome godfather of the kid whose a bachelor and rides a motorcycle and does awesome stuff.

    Make the most of being alone and do whatever the hell you want, preferably something crazy or extreme, so that way when you come to the reunions you can brag about what you’ve done with your life.

    Reason? Only one life to maintain and schedule for, not two, or three or more if there are kids.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m going to go ahead and say this, but this article’s pic features a man that doesn’t even know how to dress himself. The waistcoat is wrong, he doesn’t have a pocket square, and worst of all, it’s clearly a morning wedding and he doesn’t wear morning dress. Western-style weddings really are better left to westerners.

    • >>Marriage is a workshop, where man works and woman shops.:P

      ..and in the past, that wasn’t all that bad, because guys earned all the money and girls stayed in the kitchen and looked after the kids.

      Problem is more and more women expect to work, so obviously there will be a need for housemen, but everyone’s looking down on housemen and no woman wants to marry one…. so… yeah.

        • Let’s say there’s around 100% of work to be done for money.

          Past:
          Men – 100%
          Women – 0%

          With women wanting to work and getting work, obviously there will be either men loosing work or the population just decreased. Both isn’t really a good thing I would say..

          And it’s not like there is magically more work to be done, especially with all those machines that relief us of so much work…

          So how the fuck are guys supposed to support a family if there isn’t even enough work for all of them to do so? But it’s not like we lost wealth, it’s just going to women, too. Not inherently a bad thing, but that means there is a need for something nobody wants (to be): housemen.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you marry with the believe you getting divorced later than you probably shouldn’t get married in the first place. However, if you get married without this believe your arguments is not valied.

        • Anonymous says:

          >If you marry with the believe you getting divorced later than you probably shouldn’t get married in the first place.

          Exactly why more and more people are turning their backs on marriage. 50% of marriages end in divorce, and in 75% of cases the initiator of divorce is the woman. Men want lifetime commitment but know they won’t get it.

        • Anonymous says:

          every guy I’ve ever met that’s been married has had a divorce and a horror story to go with it.
          some guys, my self included, have horror stories of girls they’ve dated. I’m just going to continue assuming that all women are evil. and that divorces and brake ups are what we can look forward to.

  • Anonymous says:

    “Feelings of love are just a temporary lapse in judgment. Like a mental illness. Even I get in the mood for that stuff now and then. I am a healthy girl; my body has its urges. But I won’t let a momentary slip up leave me with a burden.”

    ― Haruhi Suzumiya

  • “Being 25 at a class reunion and being surrounded by people with families was psychologically taxing. They were talking about nothing but kids and married life and I had nothing to say.”

    lol, that’s the worst possible reason to get married 😀

      • Anonymous says:

        i tought like that for years and years, but the loneliness eventually got to me, im 35 now and in an estable relatiship, not yet living together but almost and the nights i spend with her are the best (and not just for the sex i assure you)the company is important, she works part time also so she isnt even expensive

    • Because of failure today’s women are, dating and the hope of a prosperous marriage is a following no different than any other mindless cult-like religion that takes people with uneducated extreme beliefs to support.

        • “Because them it’s a lie. Not being interested in women, and not being interested in the bullshit surrounding a relationship are two separate things entirely. You are very, very interested in women and probably masturbate to women regularly like most men.”

          They are not two separate issues because you do not commonly get one without the other. A cheeseburger is a cheeseburger, because of cheese, and a burger. You can’t separate them and still call it a cheeseburger. Women overwhelmingly more often than not come with bullshit. Guys are very simple beings. Eat sleep sex occasional meaningful conversation = happy. Its women who fuck up the rotation.

          Masturbating to women doesn’t mean you have any real interest in the,. It means you’re interested in sex and in the sexual parts of women. Not the women themselves unless you’re saying all women are any good for are their sexual parts, then I’d be compelled to agree with you.

          “The difference is our willingness or desire to attempt to sift through a sea of possibility….”
          -In this paragraph, again as in the case of most of your posts, its nothing but idealism. First of all humans are complicated and ever changing. Narrowing down exactly what type of woman or relationship a person wants down to the T is near impossible for any dynamic intelligent thinking lifeform. It’s always going to change, you’re always going to be influenced by something and change your mind, or you’ll learn more and grow or mature or become more cynical. The you of 5 years ago doesn’t want the same type of girl and relationship as the you of now or the you of 5 years from now. Your advice leads to nowhere. Not to mention the fact even if you can think it up, then you have to miraculously find this perfect person, AND THEN even if you can do that and you got the PERFECT person that you drew up in your head, it STILL doesn’t guarantee a happy life or that she isnt going to cheat or lie or give you a std or do all the other terrible shit women do. It also possible that you can be deceived and lied to and who you thought u married isn’t who you thought they were. Or that you made a mistake in thinking of what you wanted after getting it, realizing you were wrong. How many times do people think they found a perfect or great person only to break up later. AND even if u think up a perfect person, in these types of situations humans are more emotional than logical, you could still end up falling for a person nothing like what u had in mind and it could be great or terrible for you. Your idealism is full of holes.

          “People give up because it’s the nature of weak minds in certain perspectives to give up. ”
          My weak mind was able to see a thousand flaws in your plan. But if you think going forward with it anyway is ‘strength’ then go for it.

        • @ Anon 22:25

          Because them it’s a lie. Not being interested in women, and not being interested in the bullshit surrounding a relationship are two separate things entirely. You are very, very interested in women and probably masturbate to women regularly like most men.

          The difference is our willingness or desire to attempt to sift through a sea of possibility following social norms by which we can find what we could constitute as our ideal woman or ideal relationship. The issue most people don’t recognize is, like I mentioned in my other post, I’ll bet money that you can’t even clearly identify what your perfect relationship would look like in detail. There’s a strong chance that you, like most people, expect a relationship to be shallow and straight-forward, which is why anime appeals to us, but the reality is we have to learn new things to be in a relationship, and face truths we otherwise choose to ignore. We see people who try to avoid those truths in shitty relationships that tug in other directions and rightfully see that as modern relationships, because we have evidence for it. The reality is it’s because our cultural perceptions are incorrect, not the people within them.

          People give up because it’s the nature of weak minds in certain perspectives to give up. We may be incredibly intelligent in certain areas, and in others, pants-on-head retarded. And most of us are weak minded in one, if not many places in our life.

        • Anonymous says:

          Taylor is actually right (marriage is archaic and doesn’t really do much today). And why does not having an interest in women mean you are gay? I’m not interested because I do not want to deal with all the bullshit they bring with them.

        • Yes because everyone disinterested in women is so because they cannot ‘obtain one’. You could have also chosen the Im gay route and completed your logic and critical thinking ability of a 12 year old argument.

      • Blaming women is worthless, really, as each woman is different. From what I have noticed, what is destroying marriage is not as simple as someone acting stupid, or making mistakes.

        It took me a long time to determine what my ideal woman would have, and I kept hearing ‘intelligent, nice, good looking’ and all those generic things that never mean anything. And I finally determined, in one trait, what leads to everything being better for both parties across the board. I want to be with a woman who has the ability to think beyond herself, and is willing to expand on what she knows no matter the topic.

        That’s not to say that she has to be interested in everything, merely that she won’t childishly shoot down something much like most of the people here would for something.

        A woman (or man, it works both ways) willing to consider something they are unaware of, or something new, or even a conflicting idea, is also willing to discuss and grow as a human being in the face of that new information. That means that a fat man/woman would be willing to lose weight to please their partner and vice versa, be willing to try new things and look into their hobbies, and recognize when they are being awkward unnecessarily and attempt to find the source of it with their partner. It’s not about changing who you are or they are, but coming to an understanding what the two of you are to yourselves and each other. You don’t stupidly hold in things that annoy you, but discuss it, recognizing that it’s you who are annoyed about their actions, not a problem with their actions, and together you uncover your psychological quirks and grow together.

        That’s a true relationship. It’s why you can be the one to look into your best friend’s eyes and say “You’re a fat fuck and you’re going to die if you don’t lose weight. Here’s what we’re going to do, we’re going to the gym together three times a week. I’m going to do this with you and we’re going to get healthy.”

        Many of the people who spend all their time online are too selfish to understand what it means to grow as human beings in the face of adversity. Put simply, if you’re honest with yourself, most, if not all of us, are cowards in some form or another.

        • “Many of the people who spend all their time online are too selfish to understand what it means to grow as human beings in the face of adversity. ”
          -That is not limited to people who spend their time online. Its most all people. A part of human nature.

          Your story on your ideal woman is all fine and dandy. Problem is, there is a microscopic minority of women like that. That’s how I can fault women. They could get their shit together, they just don’t and take the easy ways out in life. For even the very very very few women like that out there, I doubt anyone reading this can even think of one woman in their life like that if they’re honest with themselves and not just trying to argue with me, there are statictically just not enough of them to pair with all of their male seekers. Thus it makes more sense to either come up with alternatives to women like in time of eve, or to continually bash them into common sense because they are quicker to respond to the jerks than the nice guys. Part of their flawed female nature. Or you can do both, as I do.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have come to the conclusion that Taylor’s hatred of real women stems from the fact that he is so repugnant that he couldn’t get laid by a starving prostitute who was half passed out on cheap liquor.

        I helps his ego to imagine that it is the women who are repugnant and that he is rejecting them.

        He is, of course, a pathetic moron.

      • Anonymous says:

        You exemplify the meaning “Forever Alone” and least you are doing it of free will or you are incredibly lonely and just rationalizing it that way to make yourself feel better

  • they need Life Counseling a lot, “Marriage is Worthless” is WORST, another ROAD to EXTINCTION if they don’t do something about this matter of life, love and so on.

    Youthful days are supposed to be enjoyable, but look at them now, they’re WORTHLESS without LOVE, living in an life without a love of a Japanese Women is MORE WORTHLESS because of the physical appearance, definitely not.

  • Anonymous says:

    Why would you marry if you can just live a normal relationship? Does one really need a ring on their finger, some official documents and that fucking stupid and expensive ceremony? Just tell your partner “I love you for now, here are matching rings, let’s try being happy for as long as possible *chuu chuu*”
    Well, in Japan this wouldn’t work, as society looks down on bachelors and unmarried couples (especially IF they are living together… if they can find an apt.)

    But I truly have to agree with the online comments… there is NO merit for men. They turn into their wife’s personal ATM, don’t get sex (contrary they might get NTR’d), they have to pay for wife and children, etc.
    Sure, they might get a better job position when married, but they also have more expenses -_-

  • If you do not want to marriage because you are afraid to get cheated, then find an ugly woman.

    Anyway the marriage means GAME OVER for men, i don’t know for women. I have two sisters and the don’t seem to have a good life. They always fight with their husband and they took much wheight after they have kids.
    LIFE IS ONE ONLY so don’t waste it for a piece of PAPER. IF YOU’RE NOT HAPPY ANYMORE THEN FREE TO LEAVE YOU’RE PARTNER! Happiness of individual is more important than everyone else. Love is only a temporary very beautiful emotion. You can have kids and not married like some of my friends. IF YOU REALLY LOVE SOMEONE YOU DON’T NEED A PIECE OF PAPER! OK you may need it to pay less tax (but it is not much anyway) or have citizenship if you are a foreigner.

    • Anonymous says:

      When divorce rate is as high as 50%, and during divorce man get to lose the kids, their asset and some of his income, their got second thinking before decide to carrying on through marriages.

      Woman hold great advantages in Japan, don’t have to work but still get to hold money, and if she decide to not like her husband she can divorce her, keep the kids, keep the house, and get money as well.

      That is very messed up. Of course, feminist wont say anything,its their kind getting special treatment after all.

  • Anonymous says:

    In my opinion, marriage itself is not to blame, it’s your own fault for picking shit-tier women. If it turned out to be so terrible, you clearly didn’t know your partner enough or took the commitment too lightly.
    I’ve been married for a while and I couldn’t be happier.

      • Anonymous says:

        and some people do not understand the market situation for marriage AT ALL while they get “jealousy nukes” in the internet by anonymous and even personal animes by psychologist out of nowhere with an lasting effect of 3 years for no apparent reason, seeming just to photograph schock annoy someone we want to give the impression he should not talk anyhting anymore with OUR money i mean costumers.

  • If I would have said all the stats and comments on this posts it would just be voted down by you all and Id be called a -insert insulting internet meme line- misgynist. Well who’s a misogynist now? Looking at the comments good to see most of you agree with me even though when I post the exact same things you act tsun tsun. The 2D Revolution lives on.

  • Why are people looking at this like “I gotta weigh the pros and cons” instead of “This is the person I love. I can see myself with him/her for the rest of my life, Hell or high water”

    If you’re looking at marriage with ‘yay or nay’ you’re not ready for marriage. Then again, younger people don’t think that far ahead.

  • “If you’ve no money the demerits obviously outweigh the merits.”

    People who weigh the pros and cons like that probably should not get married. Unless they are OK with becoming someone’s exclusive ATM, anyway.”

    “Nobody who weighs it up is going to get married. It takes transient extremes of passion and emotion.”

    (this is my favorite one ^)

    “Don’t worry. A few years from now the same lot will be moaning about how much they regret it, how badly they need a divorce, and how horrendous their money troubles are. Let the newly-weds make hay while the sun shines.”

    “All the merits are stuff like a household and social standing… which are becoming much less necessary.”

    “I got married and honestly shouldn’t have.”

    “All the people around me in their forties and fifties are constantly divorcing and adultery is rife amongst them. Other than as a contractual basis for raising children I don’t see the point.

    “For women the merit of being able to economically parasitise a man is very clear, but for men there really isn’t much merit.”

    ^Sankaku whats the unicode for BOLDING THINGS

    “There are no merits to a man any longer. You really have to try hard to make it look good.”

    “I basically see marriage as agreeing to be host to a leech which will drain your essence completely. If only my sow of a wife would disappear somehow…”

    BOLD^

    “Really? Just point out how free you are to pursue your goals in life without marriage tying you down.”

    “It is nothing but merits for women. I’d like to have seen them separate these results by gender…”

    “That’s because the whole point of it is to benefit the woman. It would be mostly demerits to any working woman too.”

    “Let’s not forget, the official statistics show 237,000 couples divorced in the last year and they estimate a third of marriages end this way.”

    The Revolution is Now.
    —-
    I thought you guys said I was alone on the anti-woman & 2D Revolution….?

    Looks like your precious Japanese you ass kiss feel the same way. You are the blind idiots fighting me and arguing at the wall and making yourself look retarded. It obvious for the more intelligent and logical thinkers. But I can’t be upset because without stupid people who will mow my lawn and do all the other menial slave labor you people are forced to do on your “jobs”. I suppose you have your purpose in life ha ha. With your sad lives no wonder you possess the ability to override your logic and become so emotional you end up with these useless creatures to squeeze any temporal happiness you can out of life. How very unsightly. But oh well enjoy what little you can.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, even if we reply with sensible comments, you´re are just going to overlook the inconvenient truths and just bash the commentor, so why even care? Often we provide you facts that you so eagerly demand, but never do you seem to provide us with any. Looking at one of your earlier posts: “I looked all over that website and I couldn’t find any list on why the fuck we should care about Japanese women…” Do you seriously base your opinions on the internet alone, let alone a single website? In how far are you superior to us in eduaction again? In how far are we supposed to take you seriously when no of your answers to us are void of insults? How can you feel superior that way?

        • Anonymous says:

          Sorry for us giving you the time of day, I guess we’re just too nice, you know, still being “naive” about 3D women being great too and all… Nice guys often think with their hearts before with their brains. Even if we may come last, at least we do eventually come rather than DNF, and those of us who do not succumb to the dark side can live humbly with our patience and will not be deterred.

          We see you, a lost otaku, spreading your shit and adding even an ounce to the despair of fellow otaku who are already troubled, and we feel the need to counter it any way we can. I feel satisfied just posting an objection to your inane posts. I know your mind can never be moved no matter what is said, so this is all I wish to achieve with my replies… to make it known that there are people here who are disgusted by you.

          BTW, this is the first time I’m posting in this article. I haven’t had time for Sankaku recently, but it seems I have no need to worry for there are 10 vocal detractors for every one who speaks in your favor.

        • Anonymous says:

          Awesome, my comment that i worked on for half an hour was somehow not posted so I will just write a shorter version of what I wanted to say.

          1. Replying to others with insults and bashes when you´re supposedly smarter than your conversational opponents makes you look more stupid than you actually may be.

          2. This website clearly is pro Japan. Like with other media (e.g. newspapers) they all have different outlooks on things because they are e.g. conservative or whatever and thus have one thing in common, having different opinions on the same topic. So it is clear why you won´t get an objective view about sth like “who are more beautiful, Korean or Japanese women?” for instance.

          3. About your views on women, in one of my earlier comments I said:

          Quote starts:
          “” And women just spread their legs”

          “This is todays women..”

          “Women feel they don’t have to work hard on their personalities, education, job positions, conversational skills, […]”

          Taken from your glorious “revolution” post. THIS is what is called generalising.”
          Quote ends.

          You make it look like women are all the same blood-sucking, money-out-of-man-squeezing parasites (which can´t be true due to common sense and my own experience).
          You have a fundamental right to say this, it´s your right to express your beliefs, nobody can forbid you from doing so. But just as you have that right, so do women. So even if they say “I just spread my legs to get money and leech off men” then so be it, it´s their right to do that. You don´t have to agree with this, but also you have no right to make women submit to us men after your “2D revolution”. According to you, we ought to have “meaningful relationships with 2d” (whatever that means), avoid women and, if necessary, to secure offspring by “Us[ing] women as incubation chambers.” (taken from one of your post on “Top 10 Mistakes Foreign Guys Make With Japanese Girls”). This totally destroys all century-long efforts and results on developing human/fundamental rights. Women are not a different part of our species, they are are just as human as us men and thus have the same rights. It may sound obvious to some, but it apparently isn´t, which is sad.

          Now feel free to respond if there is sth I didn´t elaborate on enough or if sth is not clear or you think is just utterly wrong in the way you described you would comment on any more sophisticated posts.

  • Why precious 2d girls are better than 3d whores reason #5649

    Why is this news?

    HAVE I NOT BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 100+ TOPICS?

    I want to apologize to the weaboos who think everything Japanese is superior. Perhaps you were right about this as Japanese men have been more intelligent than you western idiots and have already long understood the uselessness of women. Thus created and are still creating many suitable alternatives like 2D and future cyber dolls. Maybe now that your precious Japanese say the same things I’ve been saying for pages you’ll believe it. I already see the comments suggesting so. Japanese men have already widespread shown their indifference towards women, what looks like them being too scared is actually them being too smart. Its only you less educated and intellectual foreign monkeys who are still ass kissing women and giving them excuses to be useless so they only have to focus on being cute because they know they’ll be able to put on a tight top and short shorts and land one of you dope$ and make you take care of them for the rest of their life while they offer nothing you can’t get from a maid, a prostitute or an old friend 100x cheaper without the stress drama and heartache eventually leading to your death. Fucking anyone who gives them the a little sweet talk until they get bored of you and their loins crave a bigger dick after getting used to and bored with yours and your one move and stay in a relationship with you only if they cannot find a better opportunity.

    Show your unnecessary need for 3d women because if they have the chance to upgrade, they’ll show their unnecessary need for you, and switch to 2d. The Revolution is Now.

    2d vs 3d Scoresheet:
    2d girls – 5649
    3d girls – 1

    • Anonymous says:

      You like to ask this question a lot, so let me ask you this: Can YOU provide us with facts concerning the issue that EVERY woman is just a blood-sucking creature with no actual merits? Man, sure, there are all kinds of different people out there and I bet there are enough women of the kind you hate out there, but how can you seriously still call yourself not dumb by blindly transfering this concept to EVERY woman of the world, it doesn´t add up! And where is the fucking problem in just avoiding them? If you don´t want to chase after women, then DON´T DO IT! Nobody´s forcing you! You can´t forbid anybody to have their own opinions, attitudes, etc. it´s their right to do just that and we have the right to not agree with them and in the end, we will avoid those kinds of people and that´s the end of the story, simple! Your “revolution” won´t succeed by just posting it on this site, if you´re that sure it is righteous and correct, go to politics.

        • Anonymous says:

          >>Generalizations do not include EVERY or ALL people.

          What a cheap excuse. You’ve been caught with your pants down, and here you are twisting things to fit your agenda. Cry more.

        • Wow you really bothered to go through all those posts and scrolling just to fail at making another point still be wrong and clearly have the point go over your head. You are not smart enough to understand simple logic and arguments so I would implore you to no longer reply to me or anyone else after this until you become a smarter person.

          Generalizations are usually true and are used in every facet of life making things like business and politics possible. My point is that I generalize. Generalizations do not include EVERY or ALL people. That’s what -IN GENERAL- means. You want a fact here http://thesaurus.com/browse/generally. Read some synonyms. Educate yourself before you speak to someone on my level. You spoke somewhat politely which is why I tried not to have to embarrass you and told you to go look up the definition before speaking and embarrassing yourself again. Next time take my advice. But at least you were smart enough to remain anon.

        • Anonymous says:

          ” And women just spread their legs”

          “This is todays women..”

          “Women feel they don’t have to work hard on their personalities, education, job positions, conversational skills, […]”

          Taken from your glorious “revolution” post. THIS is what is called generalising.

          Now you may say that you at one point said that this is especially true for Japanese women (“I couldn’t find any list on why the fuck we should care about Japanese women […].”), but my point stays valid: So EVERY JAPANESE woman is like that? Give “facts”, not just mindless ramblings and lists on the internet!

        • Anonymous says:

          Is it not fun that Taylor stops posting his +20 article replies RIGHT as people start to point out his flaws in logic…? Maybe that is the strategy he is taking…? I must admit: it is a good one.

          Fight all the way with countless, long posts to make it look more meaningful than they actually are (although I bet less than half even care to read them, as the guy has close no to verbal skill to keep walls of text interesting), then bail out right before he gets called out for it so that he does not have to face defeat. Just genius, admit it… It is a win-win situation no matter how you look at it.