Hyouka Finale Excessively Beautiful




Hyouka has ended on its 22nd episode to more than a little approval, with viewers praising the unsurprisingly sky-high production values which seemingly accompany any Kyoto Animation production, as well as touching story and lovable characters.


For once the omake have a hard time matching the main feature:


Naturist version.


For true Erumaniacs (dangerous version).

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    Comment by Anonymous
    09:19 17/09/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I only have one word to say

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:05 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)


    Comment by Anonymous
    14:50 17/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    From a Japanese person's point of view, the mystery part was pretty legit. Hard to translate to English subtitles accurately in anime with a lot of talking, and not get bored.
    If you thought was the anime was boring, learn Japanese and it will be 10x more interesting

    Comment by Anonymous

    I know Japanese, but still... this anime was really boring to me. Watched the first few episodes but the mystery didn't have an impact on me. But on the other hand the visuals looked really nice. Well it's just my opinion, people has different tastes. I might consider watching Hyouka if they made an episode where they collaborated with Maitante Conan. The reaction of Chitanda when she sees a person die out of the blue is going be priceless ヾ(*ΦωΦ)ノ

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 19/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    stupid conan fan

    Comment by Anonymous

    I rarely watch Conan but whatever you say Mr/Miss Kyoto Animation Fan. *sigh* The animes that Kyoani produced after Clannad really went downhill to me. To even further your name calling, I dropped K-ON within the first few episodes too lol. Now if K-On collaborated with HighSchool DXD I might consider watching that show too. ಥ‿ಥ

    Comment by Anonymous

    Coming form a japanese perspective: THIS IS FUCKING BORING!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 19/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    by stupid ppl

    Comment by Anonymous

    hahahaha i know, hate when they dont even grabs a girl hand, no wonder why people are getting older and not having kids.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:17 17/09/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Learn japanese just to know what exactly they're saying in one of the most boring anime ever?
    Doesn't seem like a viable option, man.

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    Comment by Gradius
    05:50 17/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.3)

    Didn't watch any ep yet.

    Perhaps the Sky was TOO HIGH?

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    Comment by Erranty
    07:18 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    the Sky = Your Standards? And I wouldn't say those standards were "TOO" High.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I dropped this crap in earlier eps, could not stand the boredom.

    Regarless if anyone considers this good, bad or so so, the sales were a solid failure, and to boot coming from a massive failure like Nihijou, kyoto animatiuon is losing its touch and its depserate to hit it big time again, but in doing so are rushing things are trying to hard, 2 back to back series, 2 failires and who know about the new one, chunyyu..something, seems not good, more crap moeblob.

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    Comment by Yuri
    07:42 17/09/2012 # ! Good (+0.5)

    Are you retarded? This wasn't a failure at all. It's averaging 9.4k per volume. Far above average.

    You seem to have this misconception that it's easy to sell over 10k when only 96 anime in the past decade have ever reached that mark.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:27 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    series like Hyouka are expected to sale 15-20k

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:04 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    15-20k sales is required to break even? Nearly 700% above the Manabi Line? Thanks for a great laugh there.

    I do hope it sells enough to get a couple of OAV/Movies. I wouldn't object to an original direction S2 but overall S1 was everything I could want. Beautiful and touching.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:26 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    the "genius" forgot the most important angle, what DVD sales are supposed to actually cover =
    the production costs the studio still owes (since they produce each episode at a loss).

    its not a magic "for KyoAni they automatically have to sell this much" number.
    they have an amount of money to make back, THAT'S what determines if they are selling well or not. that's the number they have to hit.
    not some arbitrary "15-20k per DVD".

    they owe X amount per episode.
    if each DVD has 4 episodes on it, they need to at least sell 4X. and it should be noted that 4X rarely equal 15-20k copies.
    15-20k copies equals "they did insanely well", not "barely made costs".
    in other words, KyoAni didn't make back costs on K-on. they made costs and then a shit ton of profit on K-on DVD sales.

    in summary, how many DVDs they need to sell per volume to make up X costs depends on how much they spent AND HOW MANY EPISODES THEY ARE STICKING ON EACH DVD.

    your average series needs to push 3-5k every ~4 eps to break even.
    because 3-4 eps/DVD has long been the standard release format, thats why every know-it-all-anime-fan throws around the 5k number for DVD sales.
    and that's why its commonly perceived that breaking 5k is pretty golden already. it's not magic, its just plain math.

    on to Hyouka, it's pushing 9-10k for each DVD selling TWO EPISODES EACH.
    which means they're pushing 18-20k every 4 eps.

    so unless KyoAni spent more than 4 times the amount of your average series per episode, which is pretty unlikely, they're more than making their money back on Hyouka.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its so funny to see all the idiots here that fail to understand whats being told LOL

    So many idiots, go back to school, like user above said, it all depends on the series and they all have different circumstances.

    FOr some series is enough do do from x to x amount when for others that same x amount would be a total failure.

    This is like Atlus celebrating 200k sold of Catherine, can you imagine the likes of GTAIV/V MASS EFFECT 2/3 or maybe a FINAL FANTASY produceers being happy with 200k??


    Comment by Anonymous
    06:35 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The amount of sales needed to brake even will always be different form series to series, and even if they do brake even imagine if for example the next monogatari series ending up selling 15k..coming from 40k+? Even if they brake even can they call it a success? NO, it will be a huge failure that could probably halt further projects, after all fucking corps and capitalism is all about profits in the smallest time possible, do you guys think they will waste time with a series just to break even? NO, they want to make stuff that makes them big profits in a short time, countless anime projects have been doomed because of this, many series DO BRAKE EVEN but they NEVER get a second season or any other project because its not profitable enough, studios instead try new stuff with better potential.

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    Comment by AiEm
    21:17 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh look at this. People pretending to be industry experts.

    I bet you read that article from ANN and considered yourself to know everything about the ins and outs of anime production and its business model.

    @anon 09:49

    Stop trying hard. Go browse /a/ and troll KyoAni threads there.

    " series like Hyouka are expected to sale 15-20k at least for their target audience and considering their production values, less than that is below average or a failure sales-wise independently if they series itself was good or not or if you liked it."

    Proof or GTFO. Show me some figures or you can't explain anything. Stop trying to make an argument when you don't have solid facts.

    I can tell that you are pretty much ignorant unaware that LN sales and other merchandise account for income itself.

    Seriously go back to /a/ [boards.4chan.org/a/]

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:46 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of course it's not easy. The prices they sell their DVD/BD for is enough to raise eyebrows.

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    Comment by Yuri
    08:02 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    They price it that high because fans are willing to pay it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:09 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Yuri: That's correct.

    I've been buying the Blu-ray volumes as they are being released.

    Comment by Anonymous

    >10k IS NOT GOOD for a series with the ridiculously high production values + trying to hard to hit hard targeting the moeblob lovers and reuniting the whole K-ON seiyuu cast in order to attract more hardcore buyers -and in case there is some smartass, yes, I do know 4 of them were support characters only except for the female lead-

    So: Kyoani + K-ON seiyuu cast (to appeal to hardcore seiyuu fans money) + moeblob + more moeblob + the super high prodction values + doing the kind of series they havce the most succees with + after coming from massive nichijou failure = HYOUKA WAS A FAILURE IN THE SALES DEPARTMENT.Period.

    @ Yuri

    The retard is you smartass, who dont know shit about the market, there are many factors that determine the success or not, 10k is huge success for most series, 2-3k is ok, 4-7k quite successful, 9k + huge success and above that we have the smash hits and big leagues, in that last department are the oike of the ---monogatari series, K-ON, Gundam, etc... IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SERIES IDIOT, series like Hyouka are expected to sale 15-20k at least for their target audience and considering their production values, less than that is below average or a failure sales-wise independently if they series itself was good or not or if you liked it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:37 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    So you watch anime based on the sales?
    WTF is wrong with people, criticizing a series more than he/she watches it

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:46 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    NO. Learn to read, the comment is arguing and pointing out the supposed "success" vs "failure" of Hyouka from the harsh cold perspective of sales.

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    Comment by Satonaka
    17:01 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    almost as bad as the people claiming a video game is good based on sales. lol kids.

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    Comment by Blacksun88
    22:37 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i login purposely just to give you a minus. don't have to thanks for me for that

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:20 19/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    A lot of stupid genius here

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    Comment by Greg Boscole
    15:42 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    I dropped it because the damn chitanda, is so fucking annoying with her "KI NI NARIMASU".

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:04 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    your avatar is damn annoying than Chitanda

    Comment by Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous @ 23:04 is so fucking annoying!

    Comment by Anonymous

    More like the chara-designs weren't as "sky-high" as the production values.

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    Comment by Benoist
    07:26 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    arigatou, soushite arigatou \o/

    Comment by Anonymous

    Is there DFC in this anime? If no, then I'm not interested in watching it.

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    Comment by meloindex
    03:05 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    engaging plots, top class production, lovable characters. definitely one of the better animes ive seen. i just love hyouka.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:01 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was really good. One of the highlights of this year for me along with meduka.

    As someone else in the thread mentioned, its simple yet so enjoyable. Not flashy, yet so beautiful. And it even had a happy romantic end for the 4 main characters. It wasn't loud with confessions but its the sort of subtle touch that the show has been using all along.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:17 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The posts over here

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:16 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    touching STORY... LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:31 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, this series was so damn good!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)


    Wasn't too sure in the beginning but it grew on me (and then got me hooked since the mystery murder film episodes).

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:49 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, it was so very good if you could not sleep, for that this was superb series, you will fall asleep in mere minutes!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:53 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    a pink sky huh . how often does that happen for real

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:44 19/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do you ever go out ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:09 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Personally, I really liked this show. It was gorgeous, and the feeling it gave me was similar to watching some of the milder (how do you describe it;) Ghibli movies. Especially this last episode.

    Still hoping for a more solid conclusion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    BLASPHEMY, comparing this with the GHIBLI movies!!! LOL

    I am sure Miyazaki and everyone in GHIBLI would take this as a great insult to them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    17:57 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    no gifs is fail

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    Comment by pkisme
    08:52 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    tumblr is full of them..

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    20:50 17/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, seriously, did this EVER get interesting past the first episode?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:53 18/09/2012 # ! Neutral (0)


    Hence even a good part of the hardcore community agreed and decided not to waste money in this shit, >10k only thanks to blind kyoany/moeblob lovers.

    Kyoani will be in deep shit if they dont get a super hit with its upcoming series. Fortunately they had K-ON movie this year otherwise Kyoani would already be in big trouble, probably in the red.

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