The US seems ready to dump its useless Japanese lackeys in favour of its much more affordable and numerous new Chinese friends, if polls of the American public are anything to go by.
According to a public opinion survey of American adults undertaken by the Council on Foreign Relations and being gleefully reported by the Chinese press, 70% think that “for American interests relations with China are more important than with Japan.”
Only some 28% thought that America ought to do anything to impede China’s rise, leading many in China to think their rise is so inevitable that even foolhardy Americans dare not oppose them.
Surprisingly, many Japanese seem sympathetic:
“We knew.”
“An unexpectedly sensible set of opinions from them there.”
“Don’t worry, we’ll put up with anything demanded of us!”
“Japan is going to get stuck looking after its old farts now, it’s nothing but a drop-out nation.”
“And how many of those involved with this were Chinese Americans?”
“This is why being the pets of the whites sucks, they have no sense of gratitude.”
“Don’t bash the yanks for this, it’s our fault for being so useless! To them we are like those dirty Koreans are to us. They can’t even tell the difference anyway.”
“Because China is financing all their debt… unlike their loyal Japanese dogs, China has an ace up its sleeve.”
“We have a peaceful society yet over 30,000 of us kill ourselves every year, it’s not surprising nobody likes us.”
“The DPJ government has basically torn up every diplomatic agreement they made with the US, it’s not surprising they think we’re a basket case.”
“America needs China to buy its junk and Chinese slave factories to make its products. However, they’ll never accept China as a communist dictatorship. The worst case is that they’ll try to force a more pliable government into place in China.”
“America has already declined anyway!”
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The Council on Foreign Relations is obviously skewing this to start the placation of the Chinese government. They are going to be mad when they find out we have no intention of paying them back for our debts. We have basically told China; "So long and thanks for all the stuff."
they don't want those debts paid back. Paying debts on the national level causes monetary contraction, which slows down the economy worldwide, and therefore will hurt china's exports.
Of course, we can always print more money and let those exporting nations have a taste of their own medicine with 7% + inflation in their average goods.
Laughable people keep bringing up debt when less than 10% of total US debt is owed to china and more than 50% is owned by American public.
You need to get a clue. You've no idea how this works.
Whether that or dollar holding, it's held by a single entity. If released overnight, there'll be a runaway effect. The dollar won't be worth its weight in toilet paper by morning. The dollar is back by "In God We Trust," and trust is a fragile thing.
China won't ever do such a thing, as it would ruin the world economy in addition to turning US into a third world country.
And US won't ever default on its debts, as it would have the same effect as what China won't do - breach of trust in the dollar.
If you see that really well deep, it only mean U.S. is completly broken and they are just FAKING numbers!
beyond that the debt is meaningless.
With the way things are going with the economy I won't be surprise when it happens eventually!
Never doubt history. Democratic countries have a habit of only staying around for so long until they slump!
The smaller nations will raise their fists at the bigger ones, aye.
They don't care about the money. They want influence in the international arena. That's done by providing cheap debt to the US, and then threatening to cut it off any time America steps on their toes.
As we all know that, the US just like a robber in the world, only China and Russia not going to buy your stories.
Kind of odd since I'm American and every one I know hates China, and thinks of them as nothing but makers of cheap crap.
To be honest, the survey simply said that relations with China were more important, but not exactly what kind of relations or why.
Let's be honest. The whole world knows China is a threat. I bet the US is just waiting for the chance to "facilitate communications" and "improve relations" by "spreading freedom" to China.
Japan simply isn't worth invad-errr I mean liberating, so relations with Japan aren't as important.
Yeah, the US is buried in debts to China. if China called no faith on our loans, not only would the US economy instantly collapse, so would the rest of the worlds. Simply put, the US can't afford to have China as an actual enemy
puny americans...
3000? you lost 418k in WWII, mostly soldiers
USSR lost 23,100,000 (10,600,000 civilians)
China 20,000,000 (mostly civilians)
Germany 7,293,000
Poland 5,600,000
And you talk about 3,000?
Actually, China as an enemy would be rather fortunate and beneficial for the United States. If/when America were to wage such a war and if/when the US won such a war they could ask for reparations that would waver debts, setting balance to zero and fragmenting China into three, possibly five different nations.
That works, borrow money from a country, doesn't want to pay back, beat the shit of out that country, free money. And other countries will be glad to lend more money, WIN.
The US can't afford to wage war with China even if they'll win, because China doesn't give a shit about its own people. Even in, say a 1:10 ratio of casualties... kill 30,000 Chinese it'll be quickly forgotten, but if 3,000 Americans are killed they'll cry about it for the next 11 years.
@16:52 sigh. Don't you know anything? China as an active enemy would be horrible for the US. No more cheap food, including rice and hmm about everything else in an American home besides the house it self, has a made in china label on it. I wouldn't be surprised if the US's war materials come from china.
Also china as an enemy would mean Russia as an enemy, and everyone knows all these big powers would never directly come into conflict, because everyone has nukes. They would have to let the small countries fight for them, which would be the cold war all over. In the end lives would be lost, money spent, and no everyone comes out of the ordeal with the same borders that they had when it started.
dude russia the hell if it was still ussr then i'll buy it
Actually, most of the world regard US as a threat, and China mostly harmless. But yeah, I can see your definition of "the world" is very small...
Well, they have us by the throat, but we have them by the balls while we control the Opium supply.
Japan has to let a generation or two die before it will find its place in the new millennium. Once their younger generation reaches its inevitable 'do-or-die' moment that many of them are emotionally unprepared for, I anticipate they'll have many protests in the not-so-distant future. I look forward to it.
I've stated that they're having their sexual revolution before, and I do believe it, and once you claim your sexuality, you can discover who you are. Their revolution is in a false reality though, with the idea of '2D better than 3D' being more than just a fad, so I'm curious how it will grow from there.
The new era is not something to be dictated by the elderly.
dude the heck are you reading the govt is corrupt already and our senators ar just bigs that want more money from us comeon look at the taxes isnt that enough to pay the debt if it wern't for corrupt officials plus we have fort nox man talk about gold
Use your head, 00:33.
This is the MEDIA you're talking about here.
Their whole business lies on blowing things out of proportion.
@14:26
If that were the case there wouldn't be so much attention directed towards them from the media. Not to mention the large shift in U.S. naval forces towards that region but I suppose you know better than your government right?
You say that while following it and posting illogical comments, good one!
If "by the throat" you happen to be speaking of the American debt they hold, China holds 9.6% of U.S. treasury bills. That's it.
People and organizations (like banks and the fed) in America hold 69%, and the remaining ~21% is in countries that are allies or non-threatening trade partners.
So I don't quite see China as the menace some others do. For godsake their first aircraft carrier is a rusted out retired ship from Ukraine.
U ever hear the term "china-mart? It's walmart's alias.
Tramlaw backwards for Walmart.
Until the products explode.
Also cheap chinese lead poisoning in baby products.
First off lets see that report I am sure that the people they polled were Chinese Americans .I for one and many of my friends would pick Japan over china any day of the week
Have any of you ever been invited into one of those polls?
I have. About 20 years ago I got a bunch of questions by mail. Questions about my yearly income, social status, kids, who I voted for last time, and so on. It said in the letter with it, that it was anonymous. But on top of each page was a small 10 digit number.
What I think went on, is that it was not a poll, but a profiling. And it would be used to feed a database with my profile, so later, when they want to make a poll, they can ask the database for ”random” people who is likely to give the desired answer.
Paranoid as I am, I made the 10 digits numbers not readable, and send it back with a letter telling them if it was anonymous they had no use for that 10 digit number.
Here 20 years later I have never since been invited to take part in a poll.
I am not in the US though. But I for one do like Japan alot.
No one is perfect, but that should not be an excuse for not trying. ;)
Dang, if that ever happens to me, I'm gonna scratch the numbers off too.
I also pick Japan over China. I'm working with Japaneses companies and they are far more trustworthy than cheap China ones. From them, I know China strategy is using cheap cost to attract American Companies and slowly steal their technologies. Besides the territory dispute, that's also one of the main reason why Japanese companies are leaving China right now.
I don't like how China exploits their employees for cheap labors and backwater handlings by American companies!!!
Atleast the japanese make decent products.
You must be completely retarded if you think the weeaboo neckbeard population of sancom represents the rest of the US.
You should leave KKK and get a normal life. lol
china or chinese products?
The pole was conducted by the CFR, which is a political activist group. So of course any "pole" they conduct is going to be slanted in favor of their current political leaning.
The CFR has been run by upper-crust, Ivy League leftists for the past 40 years, so you can hazard a guess as to why it is that they suck up to the ChiComs so much...
Same here I hate China, love Japan who took these polls?
Ever thought that u guys weren't the majority? jeeze just being here makes you a super minority
too many people in USA are ignorant . China is a poor , unreliable ally just like Israel .
>Israel
>poor
lol what? Those jew bastards essentially bought a country, then shit all over it by renaming it and kicking out what little remained of it's previous owners. Develop some of the best Intel chips and buy a ton of fighter jets from abroad. Poor? I don't think so.
It's written in the book. They left half of their country in undeveloped state, that's why China is officially known as developing country.
Israel may not be poor but all it is definitely unreliable. All it does is further increase tension between the US and other middle eastern countries. Not to mention the issue of Palestine.
Oh so edgy and hip Israel hater. Yes I know this comment will be downvoted into invisibility but I have to call out edgy and hip Israel haters for the ANTI-SEMITE douche bags that you really are. DEAL WITH IT.
inb4 being anti-this is not necessarily being anti-that. It is what it is.
and lazy fat Americans loves cheap crap that lasts for a day or two.
Lazy and fat Americans? We have one of the most productive per employee work forces in the world and America is rated 48 out of 100 in laziness ratio of industrialized nations. Get over your stereotype.
typical patriotic Amerifag *shakes head*
Lazy and fat indeed.
I go to work-places, I work. HALF of the people at work DO NOT WANT TO WORK.
All they want to do is sit in seats and look important, or be lazy.
The ones who work are dogged down as pack-mules.
Our own policies in this nation are screwed up. Look at the recent house-crisis and how HARD it is to come across jobs!
People with DEGREES are working jobs meant for HIGH-SCHOOLERS IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
Not to mention big business keeps outsourcing American jobs to them just to make more money and avoid human resource scrutiny. Do away with China and mend the relationship between JP & USA. Also notice musical artists make a lot of japanese exclusive tracks, never chinese.... or they'd blow up in a different way....
You need to expand your social circles beyond right wing-nuts. Seriously, that stuff rots your brain.
So true who comes up with these stupid surveys. Everyone I know and my self like Jap. and dislike Chinese because of their horrible mentality towards others.
Yes, you and your friends, the weeaboo population who would sooner suck a Japanese man's dick for a chance to go to Tokyo, truly represents the rest of the US. Great logic buddy.
PS I'm sure Japan is exactly like what you see in anime.
dude just get out of here we dont need no stereotype just because your willing to suck a chinese dick doesnt apply to us secking jap dick...please keep your fetish to yourself damn gay weirdo
Yes, because the Japanese are like, totally not racists and have a really nice mentality towards the gajin barbari.... ehm "other people" I mean.
I'd like to know where the hell this survey was taken, cause I never saw it! I think a bunch of Chinese Americans that hate Japan just put in fake figures to piss us all off more!
And yet people still buy the cheap crap which comes out of China.
And now people in China is boycotting their own products. Those who buy cheap made in China is gambling their lives, poor souls after all.
As Newton said "a cheap vibrator is still a vibrator"
Ofttimes there's not much that can be done about it. There's just not enough "comparable products" manufactured elsewhere.
So much work has been shipped overseas that even the NSA reports that IF America were to get into a war with China, we would enter into in a crippled state, unable to produce enough textiles & quality of life items to last in a long term war. What few goods could be produced would sell for overinflated costs and the time it'd take to retool & retrofit existing buildings would discourage many from doing so.
May be India could offer the same price, same shit may happen but at least better than the Chinese.
@23:27 "same shit may happen but at least better than the Chinese.". way to hide your racism.
Um the problem isn't the chinese products but the outsourcing to China which kills job oppertunities for american citizens that need to find a job, interestingly enough the best paid job is a japanese owned industrial company in my town my dad works for.
That's cause Japanese still place quality over jewing it down to the last cent.
That's why all the good shits come from Japan.
Should we really blame china? Or the greedy persons who sellout their own people in order to make more profit.
HAHAHA where do you think all of your american items made from, oh the irony
Typical made-in-China argument. Without China, the world still goes on. Who care if a Nazi-like country is wiped out of the map.
um 12:15 please keey your weird gay fetish to yourself
oh my god who brings their fetish to the internet and push it to others aying that they are gay while they are really doing the deed of sucking plus i kind of agreed of you china makes nazi a good guy
LOL wow China = Nazi? What does that make Japan, having a racist revisionist douchebag as the mayor of the largest city in the country (the equivalent of having a KKK chief as the mayor of NYC). Great logic.
Pull your weeaboo head out of your blowup Japanese doll's ass. No one in Japan likes your gaijin ass, no matter what your fantasies are and how much you pander to them.
without China US and EU will still go on, but asia will collapse.
IT'S NOT ODD AT ALL when you do a survey at a CHINA TOWN in US.
I'm sure "70% of US will dump japan in favor of china"
Who took this pole any way.......must be the profiting 1%. They think there the only ones out there.
Dude ... You're a sankaku weaboo reader . Your voice is not objective .
so true so true half of these sankaku people hate the living crap outa china and are weaboos i want to suck fucking japans dick. Get over it you fucking kids.
It would be so wonderful if those fucking Chinese could blow themselves off the face of this earth!
It would be so wonderful if those fucking "insert any race you hate here" could blow themselves off the face of this earth!
18:20 Yes I'm sure you've lived in China right? Instead of in your mom's basement eating pokey and watching hentai dreaming about visiting your Japan, which is exactly like what's shown in anime, and having Japanese girls falling over backwards on your neckbeard weeaboo ass.
Have any of you lived in China? Just curious. China can be a huge pain in the butt. If you were smart you would side with Japan. Chinese have zero sense of honor or respect. Of course they demand you respect them and honor them but they never return it. If they became the next and only superpower it would most certainly be the worst plague cast upon the earth. They want to be Lao Da in Asia and they hate anyone in Asia who stands in their way. Anyway Chinese only protest when they are told to protest.
BTW, that poll is BS.
nooo!! i need me a new pair of shoes, who will make them for me?!
I am not going to condemn the Chinese to explodey death, but it will be dandy if they change their government or replace it entirely.