Shiga Suicide Teachers: “We Are The Real Victims Here”


The scandal surrounding the 13-year-old Shiga prefecture schoolboy who was only able to end his bullying by leaping from his apartment block continues to deepen, with teachers apparently still of the opinion that bullying had nothing to do with his death and that they are being unfairly scapegoated for not doing anything at all to help him.

According to emails reportedly sent by the city’s top teaching official, the real victims of the scandal are the poor teachers:

“If the mass media weren’t involved, this would be nothing at all.”

“The media are just stirring things up too much.”

“We’re victims as well here.”

“Why’d they have to get the police involved now of all times?”

“Nobody even recognises the bullying caused his suicide in any case, so the reporting is all wrong.”

The bullying scandal has continued to unfold with yet more details of his bullying emerging, including the fact the bullies apparently forced their way into his bedroom and stole his wallet and that one of their number was transferred to another school where he continued to bully other pupils, as well as all manner of efforts on the part of the teachers and parents of the bullies to deflect the blame back onto the dead victim.

Even the latest prime minister has chipped in with the following:

“I have a message for any child being bullied – you’re not alone, there is certainly someone out there who will look out for you. It doesn’t matter who, just seek help.”

However, it did not take long for critics to point out the boy repeatedly sought help from teachers, parents and police, none of whom actually bothered to do anything to prevent him being hounded into suicide by his classmates.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    11:25 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Damn. This guy is fucking irresponsible. He is the victim? Yeah right. And what is wrong with police and the media involved? You don't have to be afraid if it is really not your fault.

    This city’s top teaching official need to be kicked on the nut.

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    Comment by Myballz
    00:51 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's the worst example of trying to cover up something by making an excuse to say that your the victim when the actual victim is died.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:19 17/03/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    lets cut his dick and feed it to the dogs. i hope all people bully him every day

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:33 05/12/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am more shocked in how these fools can even stay employed. In Japan, the employment rate is really low. WHAT WE NEED are teachers that are not educated enough to do their jobs but are capable of giving good care and responsibility for their students. When these people go to jail, I would enjoy their torment in how they would never get a job in the future.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:16 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    He only has one? Are all Japanese men the same? No wonder they're all a bunch of pussies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:20 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I mean, nuts. but yeah, this guy is a sissy.

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    Comment by Ori8
    22:43 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I think thats why he only has one nut.

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    Comment by Solace
    11:40 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “If the mass media weren’t involved, this would be nothing at all.”
    “The media are just stirring things up too much.”
    “We’re victims as well here.”
    Screw these teachers, still arrogant to the end and saying that they did nothing wrong. If the media wasn't involved, you assholes would just covered this whole shitstain up, fully knowing you could've done something about this mess.
    These worthless trash should suffer a Chinese-styled death. Watermelons, refrigerators, drowning, whatever.
    I hope they rot in hell and deepest condolences to the boy's family.

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    Comment by Mauvais
    00:05 25/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    They're just whining because the police and media's involvement means they can't cover things up, as they intended. Now, since they have no shame, all that's left is to deny everything and deflect all blame outward.
    Dishonorable discharge. All of you!

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    Comment by ChaosConsuming
    16:40 01/08/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    With a side of Shotgun Justice! KER-BLAM!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:52 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh 2Ch, find them and seek vengeance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:29 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    They should leap to their death, it's only fitting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 30/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah they should have some exploding soy sauce.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Their punishment must be more severe.

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    Comment by Adom Jensom
    11:34 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Make them sit on the exploding Chinese office chair that impales their ass.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:18 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Victims indeed. With the media breathing down their necks, they won't have time to get their fair share of loli pussy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 29/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Truer words never spoken.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:20 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    For every bully and teacher to damn lazy to do their jobs I wish for them a lifetime suffering. Maybe then they'll understand how that kid felt.

    And for those idiots who dare to claim that they are the "real victims", may their teeth be thoroughly kicked in the next time they spout this bullshit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:33 24/07/2012 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    It IS NOT their job. If you want to talk about not doing their job, that'll be the police.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:14 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Sorry my friend, I have to feed you, even though you are a troll. Teachers' jobs are the education, safety and welfare of their students. If they can't handle that then those fucktards should just quit and get the fuck out of the education system, it's a miracle they got their jobs in the first place.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:49 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Miracle? Isn't the interview stage any job just a bunch of lying and image faking to begin with?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:15 27/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Children are the future.

    Give the molding of future to assholes, and see what happens.

    Oh, wait, they've already done that. Look at where Japan is now, and where it seems to be quite clearly headed. Look at the frequency of these sorts of events.

    You, good sir, are a mentally deficient fucktart of the highest order if you believe that a teacher's job is only "to teach".

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    Comment by ChaosConsuming
    16:47 01/08/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your points are valid anon 20:20 to be sure. But it doesn't hurt for the teacher to do more then teach.

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    Comment by Green Archer
    22:08 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    feed him until he dies!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:20 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ha, I'm a troll. Well, pardon for seeing reality as what it is.

    A teacher's job is to teach and that's it. The safety and welfare of students is the school's responsibility, not the teachers (and limited to school grounds).

    Also, last I checked, a Teacher's job does not require him to be a saint. In other words, one can be a morally messed up individual but that doesn't mean he is a bad teacher.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I don't think you're getting it; this WAS on school grounds, which means that yes, ALL of the teachers who abated the bullying are responsible, as is the Principal. He sought help repeatedly, from everyone, but no one came to his side. At all.

    They're all at fault. And actually, yes, teachers jobs are thusly:

    To teach students, according to policy, as well as care for the welfare and security of their wards during school-time. This was during school time. Therefore, they ARE responsible for it.

    After school-time, technically it falls under school grounds until the student is at his or her's home, apartment complex, or shanty, wherever they may live. Then it is no longer the school's responsibility.

    You aren't seeing reality. You're seeing your own version of reality that is incorrect from company policy as well as reality. Now, the Japanese teachers are by no means saintly; to even pretend they are is to ignore reality.

    They are still however responsible for their wellbeing, which in some cases, is subjective. Legally, they are obligated to make sure the children are not dead while on school grounds. This is obviously not terribly enforceable, as children die on school grounds a lot. You can't help that, sometimes shit happens.

    They're still legally responsible for their general safety, moreso when a child comes to them seeking help because of bullying. Whether they respond to it or not is irrelevant; legally, they're still responsible. Japan's legal system might be different, but elsewhere, this is generally what it entails.

    A teacher's job, then, while school is in session to: teach responsibly, adequately and within company policy, to ensure the safety and welfare of his or her children, and to watch over and make sure explicit school rules are not broken, such as dress codes, smoking, etc.

    They don't have to be saints, no, but legally speaking, welfare and safety is one of their jobs. You're taking the 'teaching' part quite a bit too literally; to get the truth, you have to actually read sometime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:41 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with Anon@14:14.

    Police's jobs are deterrent with their presence and act after crimes happened. If you expect the police need to be on their toe to catch every criminals before the actual crime happened, this is not Minority Report.

    However, what the police can do is to actively be part of the community, instead of holed up in a community of their own that may flex their power without restraints.
    They together with educators along with everybody else should be the show of good examplaries for the impressionable youths.

    Then again, that's just my hopeful wish in this day and age.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:11 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Teachers and various other school staff are responsible not only for education, but also the well being of the children they teach, as they are in the care of the school from when they arrive until they're dismissed. It IS their job to maintain that well being while the children are at school. A teacher failing to offer aid to a child in trouble is failing to perform the duties they've taken on by entering the profession.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is the teachers responsibility to step in and do what they can to stop the bullying, be it separating the kids/punishments (low end), calling the parents and having them do something about their fucktard children, or calling the police and having them do something about it (assault -- high end). Being a teacher carries more responsibilities with the job title than just standing in front of the class reading from a book and handing out tests.

    In this case, the teachers should've backed the bullied kid and if getting the police involved didn't help (as it seems it wouldn't have), they should've sided with the parents and shown light on the polices misdoings as well.

    Schools are responsible for a childs health and well-being while the children are under their supervision, and the adults involved neglected their responsibilities and as a result, a child died.

    EVERYBODY that had a hand in this happening should be punished for their inaction and should be used as an example as to what will happen to anybody that sits back and does nothing to stop similar cases in the future.

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    Comment by ChaosConsuming
    16:54 01/08/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure you meant to say it but I would go a step further and say that it's the teachers and the schools responsibility to to protect both the physical AND mental well being of any and all students attending the school.

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    Comment by Powerpuff Loli
    12:14 24/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    "Why’d they have to get the police involved now of all times?"

    Oh, I don't know. Maybe because a poor kid fucking died, you stupid piece of shit!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:47 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Typical response of someone who is cornered. Don't worry about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:20 24/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    The fucking fuck!? Selfish bitch ass teachers! Fucking hate those waste of space fucktards that think his suicide had nothing to do with them!? He came to you and begged for help and you brushed his cries aside! I hope they burn in hell for all eternity, being tortured FAR worse than the poor boy
    Had to endure!

    Pieces of shit!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:10 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hell doesn't exist, so that isn't going to happen. We CAN put them into prison for conspiracy after the fact in assault, bullying, etc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:53 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    wrong, oh so wrong. Hell does exist. I just hope they get sent there sooner than later.

    How do i know hell exist? We have New Jersey and DMVs don't we? if those exist, then what awaits those who deserve it must exist in the after life.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:48 26/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    >We have Jersey

    New Jersey is fucking amazing. I should know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:15 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. Just think to the adage, "No matter how bad things, they can get worse."

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey, prove it. Yeah, thought so.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:38 30/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can we not get into a religious debate here? You can't prove or disprove either one, so both of you, go be retarded elsewhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:16 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    FSM exists. Can you prove it doesn't? Yeah, thought so.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    19:50 24/07/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)


    Comment by Anonymous
    11:11 24/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    You've got to be fucking kidding me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    so called teacher nowadays

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    How the fuck can a teacher be so unethical? Isn't that teaching the wrong things to the kids? What the fuck is going on?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:28 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're too busy having sechs with the pupils to teach them anything meaningful >.>

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:46 24/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    indeed they are trying to avoid being caught in the crossfire, not only that they are protecting the real criminals here. That's actually a crime too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:28 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    But, hopefully, that they are not trying to deny they were taking part in the bullying means something. Perhaps too much of a lost cause, but I feel they might have had reservations when it took place, but marginally went with the flow. The extent of their awareness might be an issue here, but in any case it was nonzero and they implicitly admit that here as well. My thoughts are they are now feeling worse off than other parties that took part actively or through neglect.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:31 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    But, hopefully, that they are not trying to deny they were taking part in the bullying means something. Perhaps too obvious of a lost cause, but I feel they might have had reservations when it took place and just mindlessly went with the flow. The extent of their awareness might be an issue here, but in any case it was nonzero and they implicitly admit that here as well. My thoughts are they are now feeling worse off than other parties that took part actively or through neglect, and would welcome their involvement being scrutinized as closely.

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    Comment by Niegol
    11:12 24/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Aren't the teachers responsible for the well being of their students?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:29 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Only the ones they're having sex with.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:21 25/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're talking science fiction here. In this day and age?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:29 24/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not exactly. The school is, not the teachers. A teacher's job is to teach, nothing more. Whether one wants to help or not depends entirely on his own moral.

    In this case, the teachers are all morally retarded individuals but that doesn't mean they're bad teachers (unless their teaching sucks as well).

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:40 30/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Incorrect. Teachers are responsible, as they are SCHOOL STAFF, therefore they fall under the school's jurisdiction and are responsible for the well-being of students, as well as their safety. It might be different in Japan, but for the most part everywhere else, this is what they do. They're their to teach mostly, but the secondary part of their job is to care for their well-being and safety.

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