Square Enix: “Please Wait for Final Fantasy X HD”

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Square Enix’s curious reticence about remaking and remastering the much in demand Final Fantasy series continues, this time with the news that FFX fans will have to wait “a while longer.”

Square Enix’s lineariser-in-chief Toriyama touched upon the remake in a recent interview at the Taipei GDC (most of his other comments concerned Taiwan or his opinion of various events):

Let me take the opportunity to just ask you a few other things – first, how is the progress on the HD version of FFX?

Regarding the HD version, a variety of verification is required, so please wait a while longer.

Those hoping to experience the wonders of cloud saves in FFX will apparently have to wait a while longer.

The actual level of improvement the title will enjoy is still unclear – Toriyama previously said graphics would be “much better,” but it appears strictly to be intended as an HD remaster for the Vita and PS3 rather than anything more ambitious.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:26 06/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    FF X under PCSX2 rendered to fullhd (or even higher) with 4xAA already looks quite nice. I doubt they'll make it look better on PS3.

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    Comment by Shadow C
    05:35 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I only hope this means they're doing the same thing for Charlie's Angels....I mean X-2.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:09 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    FFX-2 for a game that was made in only ONE year it was pretty good. In it's own right it's not a bad game but honestly we all thought it paled in comparison to FFX

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:59 22/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, Hironobu Sakaguchi leaving marked the downfall of Sqaure and when "Enix" started coming into picture. Get it right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:57 07/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry but... a sequel (and FF X-2 IS a sequel) should be in the spirit of the predecessor. X-2 marked the downfall of the series.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:33 08/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    no ff 11 online was the downfall

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:10 13/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    no ff 7 was the beginning of the bad

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    Comment by HouseLife

    I understand where the Charlie's Angels generalization came from in the beginning for that game... but within 3 hours, after that first tutorial dungeon, it's nothing like that ever again. It's like the people who came up with that generalization played it three hours and that was it. It was interesting to see them so playful at the beginning though. Definitely mixed up peoples' perceptions.

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    Comment by Artist Rising
    13:35 06/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Houselife you spend a shit load of time trying to convince stupid white people to play decent games....just give it up.

    I say fuck a bitch.

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    Comment by Shadow C
    10:15 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I played the entire thing, unlocked all the content, etc. I still think Charlie's Angels anytime someone brings up the game. Not necessarily a bad thing, it worked in it's own way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:01 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    played the entirety of FFX-2 right until the end and then unlocking the plettora of secrets (huge FF fan back in the day) and I still think it's asian RPG version of charlie's angels

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:53 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I played FFX-2 for over 400 hours. Anyone who is a fan of X and doesn't like that is not really a fan of X.

    It gets hated on for stupid and illogical reasons.

    For every detractor it has, there are 10+ Positives.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:09 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    So mindfuking comment here . . .

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:06 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    yes, you're absolutely correct (about how Charlie's Angels FFX-2 really is)

    at the same time, it has pretty much become a clear trend of... confused development.

    X-2 pretty much turns into standard FF after the first few hours so... why even bother with that particular presentation in the first few hours?

    FFXII presents Vaan as the "protagonist" (main guy players wll see the world through), then reduces him to a sidekick tagging along for the Ashe Show.

    FFXIII actually gets quite large later in the game. for those caught up in the linearity gags, most of them would gag on their own misconceptions if you show them the game after 25 hours...
    ...so why did Toriyama wait 25 hours to get there?

    FFXIII-2 is about Serah searching for her sister. so instead of getting to it, the game meanders for 3 and a half chapters (out of 6).

    so while you're not wrong, there is still something to criticize there.

    it might be worth noting 3 of those 4 games have Toriyama in the driver's seat.
    i sometimes think Toriyama is the Peter Principle in action. he had one success with FFX, then got promoted way over his head to be the head guy for the series, and he's never been able to replicate his FFX success since.

    Comment by Anonymous

    PCSX2 = fail for cheap bastards

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:17 06/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Lol. I own both a PS2 and the game, and I'll never ever play it on a console again. Run it at 3840x2160 with 8xMSAA. That's 72x the current consoles' 720p, and something like 400x the original game resolution (1920x1080x4x8 vs 480i=640x480/2).

    I'd rather play a good game that also looks good than the same game that look like a fucking strobe light as soon as the camera starts moving due to the geometry and texture aliasing. Jesus, the texture shimmering is still visible at that resolution when things are viewed at extreme angles.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:01 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    here comes the tard who likes to hide in the background and include race into his insults because he's one of the majority of the population thats fucking dumb enough to still think race has anything to do with intelligence.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:55 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Here comes the white person who things which consoles are cheap in all countries like in the U.S

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:32 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    That strobe light thing is a big deal. I didn't notice it so much on FFX but I could barely play Kingdom Hearts because the frame rate on the official PS2 release was so awful. I don't understand why they would release anything with such a glaring flaw, its painful to play it. It's like they made a great game, had a last minute budget cut, then just dragged and dropped the whole project into some 3rd party program and back out again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You do realize the PS2 is a 12 year old system. If you can't afford it, it's not an issue of it being expensive, it's more like you are dirt poor.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:05 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i really don't understand with people who think by playing ps2 games in PC with higher resolution will make the graphic lot better, no it didn't it doesn't work that way

    PS2 games are made for low res (your standard tv resolution) the textures aren't made for higher res. the graphics are still "bad" as it used to be.

    if you don't believe me you can compare the MGS 3 HD with your standard ps2 MGS3 (go on play it on your pcsx2 on whatever resolution and msaa you have)

    you need a remastered version with high res textures, so the graphic will look better.

    tl;dr by saying that you have better ps2 graphic by playing it in higher resolution is very idiotic. msaa may help but only in a little margin

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:36 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, there's still the z-buffer artifacts issue inherent to PS2 emulation on the PC, until they find a fix for that (not entirely inconceivable), a HD port for the PS3 might have something going for it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:01 06/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    So, they're actually TRYING to make an HD final fantasy 10, but those of us who want an HD 7 can fuck off and die?

    I knew square enix was trash, but DAMN

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:15 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Depends on what kind of HD "remastering" the fans want from FF7. SE isn't going to do a full 3D remaster since FF7 used pre-rendered backrounds for everything except the battle backrounds, world map, and mini-games. Goes without saying it'll cost a lot of money and they think it isn't worth the investment.

    Unless no one cares about the backrounds being Pre-rendered in HD and don't mind playing the game with it's static camera angles.

    Then again, that depends if they still have the original source materials so they can properly remaster it, in which case, they'd be stupid if they didn't archive it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:32 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they're staying away from "FFVII-R", because they know that no matter HOW they make the game, people will bitch about it. Hell, I've even spoken with "fans" (as in, rabid fanatics) who declare that if the FF7-Remake doesn't have A.C. graphics for the gameplay portion, the world must be at least three times as large and fully traversable like...say...Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess, be completely open-world as per the original with the same attention to the minor details as straight-line-a-thon FFX was (this was before FF13), have fully orchestrated music by a major philharmonic, have new playable characters from both the original game as well as from the various spin-offs, make Aeris (for some reason they refuse to even think that the name might be Aerith instead) either savable or revivable...thereby creating multiple endings (of which they demanded 5), fully incorporate locations from the spin-offs (remember Dirge of Cerberus, and who you could explore Kalm? Yeah, they demand that too...for EVERY city), and a whole host of other idiocy, or they'll torch SE's offices.

    And they demanded all that with a god-damned straight face. If SE wants to remake FF7...THAT is going to be their loudest market, no matter how small (or, oh God...large) the group may be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:27 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck VII. Too many unsatisfiable fans. Just give VI the 3D treatment they gave IV (scaled up for better hardware) and its fans will be more than happy. We Kefkaheads don't have the overblown feeling of entitlement the mama's boy Sephirothers have.

    Also, orchestrate it like Skyward Sword. VI always had the best soundtrack.

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    Comment by MeruP
    07:16 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You can take existing models, add some polygons here and there, replase some textures, adjust engine and here you go - HD. ff7 is a different matter. it needs to be redone from scratch.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:17 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Eh...not exactly. The backgrounds? Compressed. The "new" FF7 PC release is using uncompressed files from when FF7 was first made. Character graphics? Overworld? Enemies? Ask the modding community, they've done excellent at this for YEARS. Music? Square has "re-orchestrated" in some way every single piece of music from FFVII. Sound Effects? Just use effects from newer games.

    It's not nearly as easy to make an HD FFVII with PS2-quality graphics as it is to make an HD FFX using already-PS2 graphics, but it's not hard to do, either.

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    Comment by MeruP
    08:39 07/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was talking about FFX not FF7. FFX -> HD easy only needs enhancement of existing things. FFVII - needs to be redrawn, remodeled from scratch. So hard to understand what I'm talking about?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    they just picked the easiest and quickest game to make HD for the Sony HD remasters, ffxii isnt old enough, and anything on ps1 is too old, really thier only choice was ffX.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:47 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do you have any idea how much work it would actually be to make an "HD" FF7 when the current game is extremely low-detail models and pre-rendered backgrounds, compared to just taking the graphics that already exist for FF10 and getting them to display in HD with maybe a higher texture resolution?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:18 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Final Fantasy VII is from the early days of 3D console games, so they would have to rebuild nearly the entire game from scratch to bring it up to today's standards. They can't just increase the resolution and tweak a few things here and there, because the original art assets are very low detail. Properly remaking Final Fantasy VII would likely cost nearly as much as making a new Final Fantasy game from scratch.

    Final Fantasy X, on the other hand, is from a more modern generation of 3D games. It was already one of the best looking PS2 games, so it shouldn't be hard to make it look good on the PS3. They undoubtedly have higher-res versions of its textures from the original art assets, and the game already makes use of detailed player models. The cut scenes look great as well, and could be re-rendered at HD resolutions with minimal effort. A remaster like this costs far less than the full remake that a game like Final Fantasy VII would require to bring it up to comparable standards.

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    Comment by Olba
    03:16 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Shouldn't have bought into all of those spinoffs. Maybe then they wouldn't think of the FF7 crowd as a bunch of braindead sheep who will buy anything they throw at them, making them want to experiment with other fans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:12 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    HAA HAA HAA HAA! AAH HAA HAA HAA HAA!

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    Comment by Gradius
    07:36 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "a while longer" = 10 years!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:47 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It shows clearly that these guys really LACK of creativity after Sakaguchi and Uematsu left them.... they're finished already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "We overhauled the graphics in prestine 720p resolution, as 1080p doesn't do Final Fantasy X justice, we then took out all of the drab exploration so that players could run a single path to completely over-rated and hour long cutscenes to show how the main character is a crybaby, we think you will enjoy."

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:14 13/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they're doing 10 then they better do 10-2. I thought 10-2 was a better game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:00 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    they can be bothered to improve ffx but not the more demanded 7? has square ever tended to the fans at all? it's not as if we want much more than a graphical boost and perhaps a little voice acting. The glitches can stay, most of the original glitches are fun to mess around with

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The combat mechanics and world exploration (if very little) was interesting in FFX but the story and the characters were just messed up or bland.

    Worst was the voice acting. I still have nightmares of that "HAAHAAHAAA" scene.

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    Comment by Elizebeth
    11:34 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mmm dat big swordsman Aaron!

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:55 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Will they re-dub the English release?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:37 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'll wait for FF XD, the lulz version.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:09 09/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    how come 10 gets to be remade?? why don't you remake 7 dammit!! or you know what remake 1 for xbox all in 3d to the point it'll blow our minds then do 2 3 4 5 6, etc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:32 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just remake Xenogears already. They should have sold the rights so that Xenosaga could have been what it was meant to be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:54 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    NOt much people would actually think of the FF7 remake if they didnt show that damn FF7 PS3 performance test.

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    Comment by Riiku
    01:50 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    he said "verification is required" so it's basically "please wait a while longer until we'll send you to go fuck yourself"

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:03 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why even bother...
    Oh yay! I get to spend another $60 to play a game which just looks better than before.
    If Square wants to milk more money, they should just remake FF7, its not like X was the most popular of the series.

    And X isn't the worst FF.
    To be fair, everything after X has just got progressively worse :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:54 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The worst FF was the VIII.
    Sale out because of Liberti Fatali.

    Old_Nash

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You clearly never played 2. No one does it worse than Kawazu...well, I don't know, 13/13-2 may be worse, I didn't even bother with them...

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    Comment by HouseLife
    06:14 07/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    An example of prejudice begetting foolishness yet again

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    Comment by HouseLife
    14:05 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Worst FF is still among the best games ever made. So that's perfectly fine by me.






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