Wii U Specs “Completely Inadequate” for 2P

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Serious doubts are being raised as to whether Nintendo’s upcoming Wii U console has the power to support more than one of its wonder-controllers in play, something Nintendo seems to have been keeping quiet by only showing it running with one controller…

The problems were raised by Dean Takahashi, a prominent games journalist (for what this is worth), when he was interviewed about Nintendo’s E3 showing:

With Nintendo, where do you think they came up short in the way they showed the Wii U?

They have a major issue with the capability of the Wii U console where it has a single processor but it has to drive multiple displays.

A single graphics chip inside the console has to drive the big screen, the main game screen, but it also has to provide the imagery for the tablet controller, the game pad.

And yet the system itself isn’t that powerful. Nintendo only showed games with one game pad controller and the TV.

Most games out there, if you’re in a social setting, you want two controllers. Nintendo didn’t show any games that do that.

They admitted in a Q&A that the games are going to run slower if you have two game pads and playing on a main display. That’s a fairly big issue for them.

They made a good case that you can play with one controller and multiple Wii controllers, what they call asymmetric gaming where one person is looking at the small tablet screen and trying to deploy zombies while the people playing with the controllers were all on the main screen. You come up with very creative, different kinds of games where it’s one against four, or one person going online.

They tried to justify and turn into an advantage this major weakness of the Wii U, but I think a lot of people saw this as a weakness.

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Nintendo came up as a pretty big disappointment at E3.

The fact that the Wii U’s graphical capabilities can apparently barely hold their own against the existing generation of consoles has already provoked much debate, one that looks set to intensify should it be true that it can barely drive its own controller – not that this necessarily matters if Nintendo can sell as many of the consoles to children and old people as they apparently hope.


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    Avatar of Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    03:08 03/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.7)

    they try to save money by making system less powerful, and when it will fail they will blame people for it, morons..

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 09/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well the less powerful system is paying off lol
    Spec wise I guess they finally got to the current gen in graphics rofl aka its cheap now

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Morons are those people who bought 4 360s because Microsoft had a poorly made (expensive) console that couldn't keep up with all that "power" and overheated bricking the console

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:19 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Heh... Inadequate
    That word sums up the wii perfectly.

    Comment by Anonymous

    they all break, faggot. that's what happens when your shit is made in china.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:33 04/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Check the facts dumbass, no console fails at the same rate as the 360 even the PS3 was built better the original "fat" version that is.

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    Comment by Artist Rising
    13:39 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I guess what they say is true once a faggot always faggot.

    And I'm not talking about the bundle of sticks definition of the word.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 08/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Lowest fail rates in history? Might want to look up YLOD.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 05/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you mean "even PS3". The original PS3 had one of the lowest fail rates in console history.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 03/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.5)

    This is the worst console to date from Nintendo. Why can't just get a console with great games instead of all these gimmicks. The Wii motion controllers proved worthless since both the PS3 and 360 were to do it. The same thing could happen with this console of the touchpad gimmick ends up working out. Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U have been terrible ideas. So sad. Unless you a hardcore Nintendotard then this console will seem like godsend to you. For us casual nintendo fans this seem like another wasted opportunity to compete with the others.

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    Comment by DarkWisdom
    12:12 03/07/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Gamecube was perfectly fine, it was powerful, graphically up to date and had a decent ammount of games. The Wii U is like a bad joke, when will Nintendo go back to being one of the leading consoles when it comes to specs? They are sellouts, why spend thousands making a powerful console when you can make a cheap one aimed at the casual market....

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:53 05/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    The GC looked like a Fisherprice toy and couldn't even play DVDs (That was an issue back then, after all, the PS2 was the first DVD Player for a lot of people back in the day.)
    Sorry, you can't design something so awfull and think an adult would put it in their living room.

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    Comment by DarkWisdom
    09:22 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think a cube shape was very unique for the time and I liked how small and compact it was. Who cares what it looked like anyway? The fact is it had some awesome games, Eternal Darkness, the Resident Evil remakes, F Zero GX, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros, Metal Gear, Killer 7, Zelda TP.

    The Wii has had few actual ports from this generation's consoles.

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    Comment by ryusoma

    BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW GAMES R ALL ABOUT TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS NOT GAMEPLAY

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:27 06/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did you even read the article? It does affect the gameplay when everything starts slowing down to a crawl.

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    Comment by Shadow C
    10:43 03/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Seems like Sony can already copy all the Wii U's capabilities by using the Vita as the Game-pad. It's a more expensive option, but power comes at a price. The biggest upside being that the Vita wouldn't be a paperweight if you take it with you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:52 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "more expensive" is in understatement at $300 per Vita and I bet the PS4 will be around $400 most wouldn't be able to afford that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:36 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    u mad, poorfag?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:45 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude you should know those Sony fanboys will sink all of their cash into a PS4 no matter how much it costs.

    Ken Kutaragi regarding the PS3: "We want people to feel I will work more hours to get one. We want people to feel they want it, irrespective of anything else" - He knows his fanboys doesn't he

    So a PS4 at US$400-$500 plus 2 Vitas at US$300 each to copy the Wii U and don't forget that US$50 rip-off memory card for those Vitas!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:24 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol oh no $400.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:01 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Most people I know bought the Wii because it was really, really simple to run pirated games on it. Also a lot of emulators and Gamecube games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    lol no, Wii sold strong because Nintendo marketed it to everyone that was not a gamer. By the time softmods came around, Nintendo had already taken the sales crown.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:30 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you sure you are not referring to the PSP?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:55 05/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The PSP outsold the GC. ;)

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:31 05/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 5:55 and the DS outsold the PSP. Why are you comparing handhelds and consoles anyway? Playing Cards outsold all consoles every year then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:24 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, its because the people who bought it were either die hard nintento fanboys, parents buying stuff for their kids, and the occassional girl (my older sister, and several female relatives around the same age have one). A few of my friends only bought it for stuff like smash, one of them told me he only kept his since he was waiting for zelda. Personally I had no real issues with the Wii except its lack of non Nintendo games (seriously you used to have mutliplat games on every system) but the Wii U just seems to have gone that one unnecessary step. Its gonna have more games on it but they plan on having gimmicks with them, like the Arkham City Wii U version.

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    Comment by Myballz
    13:51 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wii couldn't play Fall out 3,Mass Effect 2,or Borderlands even if it try to.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:32 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @Myballz ye, but it wasnt supposed to anyway. For Fallout 3, Mass Effect or Borderlands you have a PC(that everybody has anyway) - and they are better on them then on PS3 or Xbox.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:47 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Ahh... releasing consoles with exactly the same features as 2 other concurrents doesnt sound as such good idea, does it? One need to have something unique to differ from them and that what Nintendo does. Gamecube didnt fail because of being week, it failed because of not Nintendo being on bad terms with third party developers at the time. Nintendo changed their attitude, so they dont have this problem anymore.

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    Comment by Mamotte
    05:09 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "Why can't just get a console with great games instead of all these gimmicks."

    It's called PC. You cant buy one anytime, of you have the money to.

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    Comment by Rya
    05:49 03/07/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Well, it's too bad but there is no PS3 emulator to play my JRPGs with. I HAD to buy one. Without all the gimmicks of course.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:27 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    >outdated console
    >outdated linux distribution
    perfect match

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah but then you'd have to worry about disc based auto updates.

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    Comment by Erranty
    06:21 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, you can mod the old PS3 into a Linux PC. So technically you can have both.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:01 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    PC is a great platform, specially if you have a lot of money and can buy/build a killer gaming rig, but honestly it's lacking in games, note that I'm not saying it doesn't have any, but you can easily find a wider array of great games on a console, be it a PS3 or 360.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:05 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Great games lol. I can't count the number of comments on a game trailer especially when it's only a Ps3/360 release and it would go usually like this:

    "PLEASE RELEASE FOR PC PLEAAAAAAAASE!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:25 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    What they really mean is "make is easy to pirate pleaaaaaase".

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:00 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    plus its a media center right out of the box. no extra remotes or kinects needed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:55 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    GameCube was and still is an amazing console, not my personal favorite, that would be the SNES, but I agree with you that Nintendo is more actually experimenting with their consoles than satisfying the high expectations which we remember of them.

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    Comment by Randomness7
    05:40 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Nintendotard? I call them Nintenderps.

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    Comment by TC-man
    02:16 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who said that there will be no great games on the Wii U? Like always Nintendo's game consoles and handheld have awesome games that break records in terms of sales and reception.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:57 05/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh, like the PS2 sale record? No? Well.

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    Comment by Lurieh
    14:46 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The system isn't even out yet, it's not one little port that will tell it's capabilities.

    And this crap about the console unable to drive two screens as well as one...Well DUH of course it can't!
    Whatever the power you put in the machine, if you use 2 screens of the same resolution it takes at least twice the graphical processing power -.-

    2P game developers are just gonna have to take that into account, nothing strange here.
    What's more I doubt they will be obligated to use those screens in 2P mode.
    You could play your street fighter on the big screen for 2P, or solo on the pad screen.

    As much as I disliked the Wii and N's marketing over it, I don't understand how that much BS can be said over them around here.
    I guess that's sancom for you.

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    Comment by Ryuhouji
    03:15 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm afraid imma have to break into this argument right here...
    Having two displays of the same resolution do NOT require twice the processing power. they actually only need about 1.3x the power at the very most.
    Two displays is treated by most graphics hardware as one, larger one. Kinda like my dual display setup on my computer. The reason a dual, triple or even quadruple display may lag is more likely because of the processor having to process more commands, with multiple separate entities interacting with the game. not the graphics themselves. Learn how hardware works before trolling about who is the most wrong. Maybe y'all learnt sumthin today. Good Day XD

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    Comment by Anyien
    06:24 04/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they meant 2 or more of the pad...

    The hardware is so weak that it will have trouble running with 2 or more pads. That´s why they only showed 1 pad in all their demonstrations.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I loved the super nes and gamecube

    the Wii, not so much, I actually regret buying it

    I believe the Wii U is very unlikely to reproduce the Wii's commercial success among hardcore gamers, but it will still attract old and very young people

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:06 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    well no doubt nintendo will capture the attention of casual players, but I think they (nintendo) will have a hard time competing with smartphones because of their availability and prices.
    which is why i think they made the right decision to try and get third party devs on board. unfortunately it will be with the use of gimmicks, which I think is a poor excuse.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:18 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can salvage some of your investment by running glovepie on the pc - use your wiimote to play touhou, your tatsunoko stick to play melty blood, etc.

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    Comment by Myballz
    12:28 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because Nintendo was using less costly technology and software for Wii.

    Comment by Anonymous

    man someone doesn't do their research much seeing how wii came first movie and kinetic followed suit, sony and M$ Copied nintendo's idea and tweaked it for their own personal uses and your calling nintendo a failure?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:31 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Eye Toy came out before Kinect and before the Nintendo Wii. It's widely regarded as the first major motion based control system to be made available for a home console. The Nintendo Wii isn't the first motion controller either, as it was beaten to the post by peripherals for the Atari 2600 and the Commodore 64.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:56 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Even the Eve Toy had been beaten to the punch. The GameBoy camera allowed users to interact real world images with games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:17 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    >Microsoft isn't a bad company they will help you compared to many others,

    Tell that to SEGA. They didn't like having the Dreamcast and games taken off the shelves to make room for the X-box before it was even launched.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "just because they were first with a major OS"

    laughing_girls.jpg

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:13 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eye Toy wasn't innovative at all. It was just a copy of something that had been available on computers for years. My computer came with a webcam and similar minigames pre-installed back in 2000, over three years before Eye Toy came out. Commercial webcam games may have never really took off on the PC, but they weren't particularly widespread for the Eye Toy either. Most importantly, Eye Toy wasn't something that was packaged with the PS2, unlike the Wii's motion controller, which came standard with every console.

    The motion controller for the Atari and Commodore is hardly worth mentioning, because it was a third-party device with no games designed specifically for it. It behaved like a standard joystick controller for existing games, and was little more than an overpriced novelty that did nothing special.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:24 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Tell that to SEGA. They didn't like having the Dreamcast and games taken off the shelves to make room for the X-box before it was even launched."

    lol no. Sega made a lot of retail enemies after they pushed failed hardware accessories like the Nomad, Sega CD & 32x. But the breaking point came when they unexpectedly rammed Saturn down retailers throats with only a dozen games. After which brands like KB Toys stopped carrying ALL Sega products. The Dreamcast never had a chance. And the only one to blame for that was Sega. But blame MS all you want, it just shows how stupid you are.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Microsoft or M$ as you call it (Microsoft isn't a bad company they will help you compared to many others, just because they were first with a major OS) is quite different from the wii motion controllers. You'll be able to use voice commands in the game. Once they perfect it, Sony and Nintendo will copy it just you watch.

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    Comment by Anyien
    22:11 03/07/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I would call them failures when both MS and Sony did a much better job than Nintendo managed...







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