Sweden: Manga “Not Child Porn” After All

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The Swedish Supreme Court has finally worked out that drawings are not people, and in a landmark case has acquitted a man convicted of possessing child pornography after the authorities found suggestive manga-themed imagery on his computer.

The case in question, previously covered in some detail, was that of a Swedish manga translator convicted of possessing child pornography after courts decided some of the artwork found on his PC depicted minors (a picture of two girls eating a banana, above, was one of the images authorities alleged constituted child pornography).

He disputed the ruling, but two lower courts upheld the guilty verdict, although his fine was lowered.

Eventually his case reached Sweden’s Supreme Court, and the judge there finally accepted his arguments that he needed the images as part of his job and that drawings should not be treated as child pornography:

“The criminalization of possession of the drawings would otherwise exceed what is necessary with regard to the purpose which has led to the restriction on freedom of expression and freedom of information.”

The Supreme Court insisted the images were pornographic representations of children all the same, but relented by conceding that as imaginary entities they were not in fact the same as real children.

However, they did insist one image was “sufficiently realistic” as to constitute child pornography (apparently contradicting the entire basis of their verdict in the process), but decided to acquit him for that one as well anyway.

The exonerated man later expressed his relief to the press:

“I’m obviously very relieved, in part because it makes life easier for me personally, but most of all I’m generally relieved for Sweden as a whole.

It would have been very hard for me to relate to Sweden as a country if it turned out to be a place that prohibited certain expressions of the imagination.”

Even his lawyer seemed happy with the court’s murky logic:

“It’s heartening that common sense has prevailed. The Supreme Court has an excellent way of cutting through the formalities and coming to the right conclusion. The ruling is very good in its entirety.”

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        • Actually after looking into it america is still one of the more lolicon friendly countries law wise.

          Worst part is that isn’t saying much and they can still get you on trumped up charges of obscenity. BUT the supreme court HAS TWICE deemed lolicon legal.

        • Sadly that’s the way most of the “Women’s Rights” extremists have been swinging it.

          I still maintain that all manga characters are merely portions of their creator’s imagination. So any age based complaints would have to check the creator’s age.

        • Anonymous says:

          Duhhhhh. All the Supreme Court said was that cartoons are not “child pornography”. America is one of the LEAST friendly places for lolicon, along with the U.K, Australia, New Zealand, Canada – hey wait — could it be something about Anglo-American culture?

          Yup.

          Go look at the Supreme Court decision (there’s only one). Then go look at the obscenity law, 1466A, a special provision to punish lolicon, applying the SAME LONG JAIL TERMS as REAL child porn.

        • Anonymous says:

          The age “12” (LOL)lolis have nothing to do with so-called “pedophilia”. They are the age of sexual majority in some Countries & just a year or two shy for most Countries making it barely a “crime” at all. American University Researchers (& others) in a large clinical & research study put penis gauges on many men’s penises & showed them erotica of Adults, Teens & Children & discovered that 70% of ALL Adult men react bonerwise maximally (100%) to age 16 females into Adulthood… with 50% level of arrousal for 12 year old females.

          The Researchers discovered the other almost 27% of Adult men (Hard Gays excluded) their boner measuring device measured 67% to 100% arrousal for 12 year old females when showed erotica of 12 year old females (compared to the other 70% of men who showed 50% arrousal for 12 year olds.

          No, the REAL child abuser sick fucks are you White Gajin moralfags who dismembered, burned screaming in agony untold tens of thousands of little children at Hiroshima & Nagasaki… not the being nice to each other pleasure of orgasm – normative by design Japanese male (& Western male) sexual orientation – No Comparison.

        • Anonymous says:

          LOL nice try Equality Now trolls

          Sankaku Complex is for years hosted in the USA… along with thousands of other lolicon hentai pay member sites or free sites.

          They’re all up aren’t they?

          “George Bush banhammered lolicon, shotacon, and toddlercon in the USA during 2003, but in 2004, The Supreme Court unbanhammerd lolicon because censoring Art is unconstitutional.”

          “…I’d like to ease people’s fears.

          It has just been made official by the U.S. Supreme Court, once and for all, that lolicon (SEXUAL REPRESENTATION OF MINORS IN CARTOON, COMPUTER 3D RENDERING OR PHOTOGRAPHY) is LEGAL. Go to Wikipedia and look up United States v. Williams

          United States v. Williams
          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          United States v. Williams, 553 U.S. ___ (2008) was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a federal statute prohibiting the “pandering” of CP [1] (offering or requesting to transfer, sell, deliver, or trade the items) did not violate the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, even if a person charged under the code did not in fact possess CP which to trade.

          The Court overturned a decision of the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals that the statute was facially void for overbreadth and vagueness, having reasoned that there is no First Amendment protection for offers to engage in illegal transactions[2] and that banning “the collateral speech that introduces such material into the CP distribution network” does not in fact criminalise a “substantial amount of protected speech.”

          Important Notes/Dicta (THIS IS THE ONE THAT AFFECTS “LOLI”).

          The Court further stated that 18 U.S.C. § 2252A(a)(3)(B) would not be construed to punish the solicitation or offering of “virtual” (computer generated/animated) CP, thus comporting with the holding of Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U.S. 234 (2002).

          The Court assured a worried nation that “But an offer to provide or request to receive virtual CP is not prohibited by the statute. A crime is committed only when the speaker believes or intends the listener to believe that the subject of the proposed transaction depicts real children. It is simply not true that this means ‘a protected category of expression [will] inevitably be suppressed,’ post, at 13. Simulated CP will be as available as ever.” (emphasis supplied) Williams at 17.

          United States v. Williams – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          Some weren’t exactly impressed by this ruling but nonetheless :

          Quote:
          It is unlikely that the Supreme Court will revisit the virtual issue, Robert Corn-Revere, an attorney with Davis Wright Tremaine, told TechNewsWorld. “One thing remarkable about this ruling is the consensus view of the Court that CP is restricted to actual children.”

          E-Commerce News: Must Read: US Law Aims to Catch Up With Tech – and Misses

          The one in bold pretty much says that the decision will stand and that’s that.”

        • Anonymous says:

          Legal shmeagle

          Larry Flynt’s Hustler various Million selling Not the Bradys XXX, Not The Cosbys XXX series etc. The number 1 selling/award winning Adult hardcore flicks portraying Grade School age lolis getting tapped.

          In a recent United States Supreme Court decision (Ashcroft vs. Free Speech Coalition) the Supremes held (defacto in following) that thisform of pornography were protected by the First Amendment.

          What is the difference between the Americans or the Japs? They both portray grade school characters.

          No difference… ALL LEGAL.

          Equality Now trolls… U Mad ?

        • @anon 04:27 he’s right though. Look it up and read through the law yourself HOWEVER the way the new ones written treats it the same. Basically they get ya on obscenity and you can still fight it and IF a VERY big if say the supreme court got it they’d actually probably find it legal. i mean laws like the current one have been struck down twice before just that before they were going outright not obscenity.

          So yeah loli ITSELF legal as a concept illegal due to obscenity.

          Oh and you want backwards try england they have cameras EVERYWHERE and loli is ourtight illegal there if i recall right.

          Another good place is australia illegal there from what i recall and hell even women with a cups in porn is not allowed.

          How about new zealand where Puni Puni Poemi is illegal under CP grounds.

          Basically a who’s who of “first world” nations actually can and usually does fuck you around more than the US. And this comes from a guy who thinks the US has lost almost all of it’s freedoms and needs either to be remade as in laws REMADE or alternatively revolution and i;d STILL pick the US at least in it;s current form over said nations.

        • Anonymous says:

          Feminazis have been a pain in the ass for awhile.

          Their starting to leak into video-games and trying to push and pull things were everyone is dressed up to their eye-balls.

          The femininazi’s want to destroy gaming because they hate it.

        • Anonymous says:

          The attempt to apply “child porn” laws to cartoon CHARACTERS is particularly insane as most Japanese art contains at least one or more characters either of an ambiguous age or characterized as under arbritrarily 18 times a spheroid composed primarilly of Iron & Silica molecules reaches the same point around a larger lit roughly spheroidal mass of Hydrogen & trace elements.

          What femnutzis are actually attempting is beyond so-called “crime control” or even “thought-crime control”…. it is tantamount to the control of the very thoughts and instincts of men – a lobotomy in fact.
          As Anime-Manga is a part of Man, owned by Man & originates from Man’s thoughts & hand… frankly women should not meddle in something which is not their property to begin with & just get busy with their own creative property.

          I have to question that the femnazis can do anything about youthful professional-commercial Japanese age 18+ Adult film stars (& other nationalities/Ethnics) for example Cocoro Igarashi in NWF-062 Acme Restrictive Confinement over at asiamoviepass… Or Hinata Seto, Noriko Kago, Nozomi Momoi, Azuki Tsuji, Aki Nagase, Shizuku Tsukino, Hatsumi Takaoka, Aoba Ito, Yu Aine, Misa Komine, Ohsaki Chiwa, Ran Monbu, Ai Nagase, Airi & Meiri etc. etc. Japanese are obviously the superior race as their women look normal for their age, not ageing too fast & wrinkling & deteriorating like for example Caucasian women

        • Anonymous says:

          Yeah, and then you get 20 years. You people don’t know shit about American law. Look at 1466A and ask yourselves what fucking jury is ever NOT going to find hard core lolicon illegal. Then go look at the penalties. They’re the SAME as for real child porn.

    • Anonymous says:

      Somehow that makes me laugh, somehow I understand these morons.

      See, I’ve been living nearby a couple, the husband of which would frequently perform domestic violence. I’d gladly testify if the woman were to ever file a complaint to the police, but it needs to come from her: her neighbors cannot go to the police and report ‘something that’s not their business’. And well, I guess at the end of the day it wasn’t, indeed, my business. Kinda tiring when we had to open our door for her when she was seeking protection, but I could have just plain stopped opening the door. That wouldn’t be too bothersome.
      What *really* bothered me was that that sort of abusive guy was leaving nearby. *That* is my business and I declare it unilaterally. I do not want him here. Kill him if you must, help him if you can afford it, I do not care, I just don’t want him here.

      I think people who want to punish thoughtcrimes have the same reasoning: they don’t care on what account thoughtcriminals should be punished, they just don’t want them near their families.
      Of course the difference here is, that the person I didn’t want nearby, was causing harm as a matter of observable fact.

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re aiming toooooo low my Menopausal Friend..

        Just grow a pair & order
        The Asakura household 3 sisters story LADY-040 DVD
        and WA-139 Chiwa Osaki – Shaved Pussy Lolita Nakadashi CS DVD
        and Flat Chest Bible Super Collection 8 Hours DVDs
        and NWF-062 Acme Restrictive Confinement Cocoro Igarashi DVD
        and a bottle of Daughter’s Parts Lotion

        • Anonymous says:

          Don’t you morons know that the NA is SPECIFICALLY attacking loli-type anime and entertainment now?

          SOMEBODY, PLEASE STAND UP FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR WE WON’T HAVE IT ANYMORE!

          THEY CAN’T ATTACK HOMOSEXUALS ANYMORE SO NOW THEIR ATTACKING OTAKUS!

      • Anonymous says:

        J-List wants to FUCK YOU UP!

        LOL, don’t order that shit or you’ll get pwned hard for the rest of your life.

        Not that I care for that type of stuff but damn, paper, pixels, and rubber sending people to prison?

        Fucking retarded!

        • Anonymous says:

          Yea and the million of Americans who have bought pocket pussy onaholes with molded in arms, legs & head from US & Chinese companies over the decades are just fantasizing raping fetuses & newborn babies… hmmm never heard of an arrest, even for the seller.

          Most sexy lingeries shops in America sell to millions little sexual oriented racy Girl Scout, Brownie Uniform (early Elementary), cookie girl “Troop 69” lingere costumes, Liitle Bo Peep & frilly little girl lingere costumes, Bad Catholic Schoolgirl lingere costumes, Japanese sailor suit school girl “lingere” costumes. Or even “Kuma/Pedobear Seal of Approval” imprinted clothing for the minors in the family.

          All for dressing up a wife, girlfriend, prostitute while she plays the part of a little girl during sexual role playing.

          Millions of Americans buy this stuff for decades…. no one is ever arrested for “simulated childporn”.

        • Anonymous says:

          You lying sack o shit Equality Now trolls.. I heard from Law Enforcement personnel involved it was a pure railroaded setup. He didn’t order from J-List.. and millions of Asian-Americans & Okatu Americans in most of the Red States & all of the Blue States, San Francisco order the same material off pay membership sites or thru the mail in DVD, digital or paper & nothing ever happens to them for decades.

          A redneck fundamentalist xenophobic racist hick MidWestern USA farmbelt community was carefully conservative redneck district shopped & picked because certain police anti-porn Femnazis & SNL church chat lady moralfags were so desperate that they all but lost the war on porn they needed a religious fanatic nerdy handicapped white unmarried male(Handley) who had to take care of his religious fanatic handicapped elderly mother… Thus he unlike anyone else could be tricked into pleading guilty to an unconstitutional admission of guilt & PURPOSELY TRICKED sign away the right to appeal, so he could get religion, “Yes I’m a bad person, erotica is bad not art, I will do what you say” blahh blahh.

          And a hick midWestern lawyer who didn’t care about 1st amendment & thought it distasteful personally.

          Thus the ACLU & Comics Book Defense League lawyers & Arts & Publishing community leaders were hardly asked to be involved. Which they knew it would at worst have been overturned on appeal. As 90% of other provisions of Protect Act 2003 have.

          But Handley chicked out as they profiled him & planned it out cat & mouse for years… in order to take advantage of a handicapped Vet & his elderly handicapped mother he was caring for – they wanted a stereotypical “character” no matter who they could destroy in their desperate end of the rope plan to set a precedent.

          “See this Earl, this here must be some weird foreigny thingy like Japs or something that don’t love godjesus & go to church”

        • Anonymous says:

          I don’t think this guy heard of Christopher Handley case in 2006.

          America is declaring a strange war on pencil and ink drawings and cartoon characters.

          Even the japanese/american companies like NIS are censoring their products out of fear of prosecution or lashbacks.

          Tera Online=Censored due to morons and blizzard idiots
          Mugen Souls= Censored to avoid AO rating

        • Anonymous says:

          Troll

          None of that sends anyone to prison.

          Anymore than buying a Delinquent School Girl costume or Girl Scout or Brownie Troop 69 costume from Amazon.com for your wife to wear in sexual role playing does.

          Or buying a naked baby, naked Kewpie or naked child doll does.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well that’s Sweden down & only the UK to go (in The Western Hemisphere…

      Serious don’t you UK’ers got Equal Protection under the Law or an “ACLU”? as a defense against selective prosecution in a Race Hatred UN “profililing” crime manner against Japanese Asians & their commercial publishing industry.

      Even the UK blinked (so they wouldn’t look like total Neanderthal Brownshirt Nazi “bonfire picture burning” art they don’t approve of retards) and let the Western “Manga” by UK treasure Alan Moore of Watchmen fame & his Lost Girls illustrated & text “child porn” be sold & published just now in the UK. Contains sexually explicit “cartoons” Of Alice in Wonderland & Wendy etc down to age 10 & engaging in bestiality I’m told.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey UK, since 90% of males are hetero, the Coroners & Justice Bill against “Dangerous Cartoons” is a profiling hate crime & gender discrimination & unequal treatment under the law as evidenced by it criminalizing male natural tendency toward youth & erotic visual material & visual needed stimulation compared to women & will subject men to arrests at 100X to 1000X the rate of womnen. This alone subjects all law officials to immediate civil rights lawsuits at all levels & jurisdictions by your ACLU types.

        Here’s some legal ammo: Britain’s new National Treasure celebrated with all public fanfare & museum tours “The Warren Cup” the artifact recently purchased with the highest price (in millions) ever paid by the British Museum and fundraising groups for any ancient object.
        The 2000 year old Roman silver cup featuring on one side a 30 year old man hardcore ass fucking an 18 year old boy while an 8 year old boy watches them; and on the reverse side a 18 year old hardcore ass fucking a long haired 11 or 12 year old young boy slave (Roman boy slaves cut their long hair at 14 when they became a legal man). Wiki article.
        I guess it’s fine with UK femnazi Parliment because it’s the comparatively fully coddled Gay Right….
        and not a girl.. or a dick-girl for more or less Heterosexual males.

    • Anonymous says:

      The phrase “Think of the children!” has to be one of the most annoying and irrational arguments in existence. Me, I prefer to say “Let the children think!”. Oh well, people are idiots.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are occasions when, yes, children need to be thought of. It’s just that when it comes up in politics, 99% of the time it’s an attempt to shut down rational thought in hopes that you’ll approve something that’s at best only superficially about helping children. (Usually, the primary purpose is controlling adults – if children benefit even slightly as a result, that’s merely a bonus.)

        • Anonymous says:

          Why is it always picking on the Japanese? Whether for 3D kiddie porn possesion or 2D Manga?

          Other White Western Nations “defacto” legalize by non-legislation or fully legalize possesion of 3D kiddie porn such as Czech Republic & Russia… World Powers even.
          If it is not a crime there, then it is not a morally a crime ANYWHERE.

          Pussy “White Racist” femnazis are cowards, afraid of the KGB & Russian Mafia & desperately fearful that other Nations under their heel (UK & USA etc) may find out that other White Western civilized Nations don’t consider 3D kiddie porn a crime.

          The femnazis just want their social engineering hatred of male sexuality mind control brain washing to suceed.

          Yakuza & Otaku & Salarymen get some backbone!!! These White Racists & man despisers think you small Asians are weak!

          No reason to pick solely on Japan for “simple possesion” when Western White Nations are even more liberal in allowing 3D kiddie porn.

          Obviously outlawing possesion of 3D kiddie porn is a cruel & unusual punishment unconstitutional violation, as anyone can secretly be sent 3D kiddie porn imbedded in any unrelated download.

          As an ACLU member my ACLU lawyer comrades are planning to overturn all 3D & 2D anti-loli legislation as unconstitutional laws & sue law enforcement by name at all levels under all discriminatory Human Rights & will make the Oklahoma City Tin Drum fiasco look like nothing by comparison.

          So long anti-loli moralfags you lost.

        • Anonymous says:

          Apparently Loli Manga DOES think of the children…

          “…There is a startling statistic, inconvenient to the people who want to censor lolicon: the number of rape victims of elementary school age or younger, has dropped over the last 40 years to less than one-tenth of what it was in the peak year of 1965. The decline correlates with the gradual rise in sexual content in manga and other media, including the availability of “child pornography” in the late 80s through the early 2000s (when such material was not criminalized in Japan) and, of course, lolicon. Although one can’t say that the availability of lolicon caused a decline in the rate of underage rape, anyone who argues that lolicon causes sex crimes is simply engaging in fantasy….”

          (Source for the decline in rape over 40 years: The Japan Times Online, June 12, 2010, quoting Yukari Fujimoto, an associate professor of Meiji University who studies girls manga and gender.)

          Equality Now, U Mad yet?

        • Anonymous says:

          There were never any ban on Dead or Alive, Bergsala the local Nintendo company panicked when some forum trolls said they would form a complaint with the police, the police looked at it and did nothing.
          A few company sell imports of DOA and it’s sold via them, nothing has happened to these company’s.

    • Noodlestein says:

      But if a drawing should look too really, beware…
      This guy got lucky apparently, being acquitted, the next joe shmoe out there might not be so lucky.
      A drawing is a drawing, no matter what, in my opinion it is not a real person no matter how real it looks. just the same as videogame/animated characters will NEVER be “real” people as they don’t actually fucking exist.

      • Anonymous says:

        Drawing, 3DCG, whatever…. unless they can prove that it is a real child, they can GTFO.

        Actually, I’ll be honest: I think that it’s just time to declare pedosexuality and child pornography legal and move on.

        This is just the SAME EXACT BULLCRAP that we had with homosexuality, interracials, etc. years ago.

        • Anonymous says:

          legalizing pedosexuality and child pornography is a very bad idea.

          children (prepubescents) aren’t able to understand the concept of sexuality, making them unable to give consent.

          on the other hand teenagers (pubescents and adolescents) are able to understand sexuality and thus are able to give consent.

          i think lowering the age of consent to about 13-14 is the right way to go, same with pornography.

        • Anonymous says:

          State says videos of nude kids not illegal
          The FDLE finds that a Pasco nudist broke no law by selling videos of European beauty pageants featuring naked loli children.

          A state investigation has concluded a Land O’Lakes nudist who sold videos of naked elementary-age girls didn’t break the law.
          Gov. Jeb Bush’s office ordered an investigation of Zadanoff after U.S. Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach, lambasted the 68-year-old nudist for peddling videos on the Internet of naked child beauty pageants shot in Europe.
          Law enforcement authorities recently reported back to Bush: Because they contain no sex, such videos are legal.
          “As much as we look at his activities with a little bit of disdain, there are no Florida statutes Mr. Zadanoff violated,” said Rick Morera, spokesman for the state investigators’ Tampa office.
          Foley himself called the videos, which feature full-frontal nudity, a “fix for pedophiles.”
          Generally, the younger the girls, the more expensive the video. One 55-minute “junior miss” tape sold for $99.95. The sales caption read: “Judging based on beauty, personality, poise and grace. Resolution rating – GREAT.”

          Little 11 year old Oskar in The Tin Drum or 11 year old Brooke Shields in Pretty Baby…

          Always been legal.

        • Anonymous says:

          Look how gamespot just bombed out on a nice cutesy title like atelier meruru because the poor characters wore skirts. And that’s one of the most tamed JRPG games around too.

          This is the type of very prudent, bullshit I find utterly Ridiculous.

          As for Hentai?

          Well why not. It’s a form of expression yes, a very adult form of expression but still an expression nether-the-less. Still is a polygon or piece of paper someone out there made up. I may not like it, you may not like it, ect but I think people should have a choice of what entertainment product they want without just being given “No, you can’t have it” and burned to a cross if they even mention “well why not it’s just fake”.

        • Anonymous says:

          2D/3D show/manga/game should be uncensored/legal because of the following:

          There’s a lot of anime out there that isn’t hentai but ends up falling into the old censorship bullcrap because the character shows their stomach, panty, falls inlove with an older guy, adult-humor, ect.

          I’ve seen entire video-games hack and slashed to death because of stupid little things like a bath-tub or a leg. It doesn’t even matter if the product is M-rated, it still gets censored. What point is it to censor M-rated stuff if it’s going to be treated like E-rated “for everyone” friendly material inside M-rated title?

          That’s what annoys me. When mature audience is treated as an unsavoury audience and the product gets put inside a tapped box. Not to mention pictures don’t even have an “age” to them because it’s the creator who makes the character, who draws the character, and places the plot and environment of the character. Paper is not born out of people’s fronts like a real person is. Since when has anyone heard of anyone “give birth” to a physical piece of manga in a hospital?

          Paper drawings do not breath. They don’t have life because they are lifeless, they are not born, they don’t have feelings, they are not human because their not even alive to began with or real at all. But the creator is not respected regardless.

          If the creator draws a short character, says their “18” or whatever their still censored and told that that character is “this” because the “we say so” mentality. It severely limits artistic capabilities and freedom of speech and ends up criminalizing the creator or fans as if they did some horrible crime against humanity. And all that was done was a cartoon drawing on a piece of paper rated appropriately for audience.

          The creator isn’t allowed to tell their fans the whole plot or story of their creation because now they’ve been severely limited. They cannot even express the personality of their own characters because of censoring.

          That’s why FunAnimation was freaking out about DITVB when they first decided to release it. That’s why NIS America is deciding to censor Mugen Souls now, That’s why TERA was censored a year ago before it’s NA release and was cruxified into “westernized” product.

          Now all the titles i’ve named above aren’t even hentai titles at all (even ecchi at best), but their still censored. Why? Because fake 2D and 3D made up models are the devil’s spawn.

        • Anonymous says:

          anon wrote
          “Maybe should consider child pornography if the drawing are the Hiperrealistic one.

          Those things are just tracing shit from original.”

          Bullshit

          Should we progressively penalize increasing levels of artistic talent? skilled fine artists or “The Masters” (who can often produce art without a model) as:

          Bouguereau, Adolphe-William
          Child at Bath
          1886
          Oil on canvas

          or how about “realistic” 3D renderings like the Jurassic Park film dinosaurs (or equvalent human shaped figures) which are nothing more than wireframe lines wrapped with a wallpaper “skin” texture as 0s & 1s blipping photons from phosphors off a piece of glass (screen).

          Producing art from memory is not a “Thought Crime” either

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah, I don’t really get it.

        I don’t think anyone can deny that manga is, in fact, child pornography, no matter how disconnected from reality it looks. The whole verdict seems a little confusing in that regard.

        They should really just separate works of fiction from non-fictitous materials and be done with it.

        • Anonymous says:

          Some nukes can change the numbers really fast. Don’t forget that’s the world we live in.

          But worse than that, most people actually don’t care about anything and will change their opinion completely after few years of mass media propaganda.

        • Anonymous says:

          Who is the 75%?

          A bunch of hypocrites who argue with their wives, slap people around, stare like dogs at the naked body of a woman, and generally disses any minority or anything not made mcdonald’s way.

          Mhm let’s just burn people to the cross because they drew a cartoon character with their undies showing.

          Idiots.

    • Anonymous says:

      Pop a bottle of champange friend, for now you are less limited in the expression of art and have gained more freedom to be able to choose what fictional entertainment you wish to read as a logical and capable, responsible adult.

      This is good news friends. May the U.S. do the same in the following years.

      I may not be around when it happens (probably will be old as dirt by then but i’m still young now) but the same b.s. that’s been given to loli-art for years are the same phobias that’s been given to minorities, to homosexuals, to anyone outside the “church ethics” way of harmless fictional entertainment and optional, rating-labeled materials.

      -Sigh- I would just love to finally be able to play an otomeo game in peace like any other fan of entertainment just like the FPS, CoD, and WoW guys can play their games without criminal scum treatment and cross-burnings.

      • Anonymous says:

        I may not be male but even I have a fan interest in japanese art-styles, the uniqueness of feminine expression involved, the plots (or lack LOL) and the quirky but sometimes bizzare imagination of creation set on paper.

        I strongly believe people should be given a choice on what they want to view on fictional-created entertainment instead of mindlessly limited and persecuted like their criminals. I believe self-expression and artistic expression is important and shouldn’t be disembowled to fit someone who could care less about the styles to began with.

      • Anonymous says:

        For the love of whatever impotent god you worship, at least they HAVE brains.

        Pictures are PICTURES. I’ll never understand why people think sex is worse than violence.

        Pop someone’s head like a tomato? A-OK let’s sell it to children!

        Insert Pipe D into Hole V? OMZOFNSAOFIJALIFJLADJFOLISJFD BAN BAN BAN!

  • Anonymous says:

    “The Swedish Supreme Court has finally worked out that drawings are not people”

    WOW EVEN IF THEY ALL WENT TO LAW SCHOOL IT TOOK THEM YEARS FOR THEM TO FIGURE IT OUT!

    Where the fuck is captain obvious to point this things out for them?

  • Anonymous says:

    You can win your case, yet still lose.

    *Job application comes in, HR staffer looks it over*

    “Simon Lundström… wasn’t he that perv who got arrested for possessing child porn…?”

    *Simon’s job application is thrown into the trash*

  • Kinny Riddle says:

    As how the guy’s lawyer has described it: Common sense has prevailed.

    Expect Ishihara Shintaro to brand all Swedish people as child-porn obsessed deviants as a result of this ruling soon…

  • Anonymous says:

    “as imaginary entities they were not in fact the same as real children.”

    YOU DON’T SAY.

    Seriously, this case was just retarded no matter how you looked at it. About time they woke up.

  • Anonymous says:

    Ugh I remember being under that christian ###$%%##%# oppression.

    It was absolutely HORRIBLE. I couldn’t even wear a spaghetti tank-top like other girls could even with the slightest midrift showing. I couldn’t even wear shorts and it was continuously pounded in my head that sex was bad. A lot of my relationships with guys just didn’t even take off with because I never stood a %$##$$# chance. How could I with all that religious $$#@#$# determining who I could and could not date? Which meant 90% of guys!

    I just remember those christian f$$$$ just being so $##$$%%#$@ over-bearing and nosy in every-little thing in my life. Hell it came to the point were I couldn’t even listen or watch-music videos like normal people would if it even had a tiny OUNCE of sexual innuedo in it.

    All they played was the fucking christian radio-station 24/7. I wasn’t allowed to hear music on the radio or even watch tv that wasn’t “christian” or some fucking juvenile type shit programs off Cartoon Network or the News.

    Now my oh so christian-type religious tight-wats has one person being a spazzic nut going off even at the slightest show on MTV and always STILL trying to throw that christian $$^#@ in my face. I’m a 23 year old young woman and I STILL get haggled to death by that religious $$#$#. It’s nothing more than ##@##$@#$@# control.

    Now I go to college and I get such a $#@@##$@ shock when I see condoms laying on the table and artwork of nude-bodies on display and homosexuals running around on campus! And people kissing each-other in the mouth.

    Religion is nothing more than $#$@##$#@ oppression. Christians are the most if not HYPOCRITICAL religious ##@#@! out there. There’s so many fake and phoney christian $$^^&%^##@$#@# walking around policing everyone else yet they go back behind close doors and do all sorts of ##$@. Then come out in society smiling cute for the camera.

    Now the same b@$#$%^% are attacking loli and manga/anime/game ##@#. Had it not been for anime I would have never seen what sex even was about or cuteness, or even relationships between different characters! F$#@ these az$$##$#$@# they’ve taken away so much from me in the real-world now their taking away my d@$$ fiction too.

  • Anonymous says:

    Good thing. Maybe this will create a nipple (I mean ripple) around the world that so long as it’s a “Drawing” or “3D Mesh” of a pornographic Child. It’s now A-OK! But, if it’s the photo of a “REAL” girl or looks like it could be real…. Oh you better watch yourself.

    Why don’t we cut to the chase already and stop trying to defy the evidence at hand here.

    There are Gay people. (Lesb included in this)
    They’re okay to roam around freely because it’s “Naturally” acceptable.

    Then you have Polygamy. Well in some cases your classic “Harem”. I mean that’s okay too right? (So long as they don’t file for legal marriage.)

    And now we have to seriously look at the epidemic breaking out. Guys. We love women. Oh do we ever. I mean, especially if they’re young, delicious and right off the belt-line. (18 years old) In some countries they even go as far as to accept 15/16 and older.
    Is it so hard to imagine that a few perverted men wouldn’t have some of THOSE fetishes too? I mean there are the Older Girl fetishes, Same Age fetishes, and Younger Girl fetishes. Why not the “too young to be legal” fetishes. I know it’s a sick concept to most people. (Then again so are gays.)

    So, what I conclude from this story is that we want to give Pedophiles a Back Door as some would say so they can have their CHILD PORN so long as… it only slightly resembles a child. (Kodomo no Jikan comes to mind here.)

    This is becoming a bigger issue all the time though.
    J.C.Staff excels at the Flat-Chest Society. They’ve taken the last 10 years or so proving that there are men who like the Flat ones just as much as the BIG and Bouncy. (Tasty treats?)

    Once the permission has been granted for a half-way marker, there are going to be those who attempt to slowly build on the edge of legal just to prove they can. Eventually it’ll become old hat, people will get used to the cut-edge and start to let the slightly less than legal stuff slide. And then before you know it. Guess what? It’s BACK and more powerful than ever, because NOW you can’t do anything about it.

    -.- So, I do say. The only way this’ll stop is if Japan puts an end to it NOW. (Although, you might notice that ever since Japan has started to pull strings on “Televised Anime” many producers have been quite defiant to the point that they almost purposely wait until the BD/DVD release to unveil all the NAUGHTY. It’s only going to get worse as time goes by.

    Sometimes the best thing to do is ease off. It’ll go away on its own. Instead, identify who your pedophiles are and end their privileges of having a private life. If they want to see that kind of stuff, let them, but as a consequence they’re now under extreme FBI/CIA watch. (or something equivalent.)

    • Anonymous says:

      The more realistic it looks – as in the Fine Art of the Great Masters (painters) of the past several centuries the more it is ART… & High Art at that. “Child Porn” is the supposed photographic record of actual child abuse (though often it is not abusive) for evidence submission of “THAT occurred “crime”” in a court of law. Anything else is Art and/or the communication at some level of an idea.
      Are “Celebrity Fakes” of 18+ people sexually posed with a “halloween mask” face… or hair, or an eye, or a hand, or a toenail of a “Celebrity” pic added onto the photo legal in the US? Such as Disney & Harry Potter’s Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus & Emma Watson? Yes

      Where are you getting your information on the Age of Consent around the World Maam(?).. it is plus or minus age 14 on average Worldwide with only half of the USA States and a small handful of other countries being 18. The AOC for all recorded history for all civilizations until the last Century was under 12 years of age. Islamic countries often have no age limit for oral & masturbation – just should be married. All Religions of the World say the Age of Consent for sex is under 12 or 13.

    • Anonymous says:

      Never happened

      Except for a couple of previously convicted serial child molesters caught the second time around with real kiddie porn… who also happened to have Junior Idol & toddlercon/lolicon art ALSO additionally on their computer/possession,

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m glad Sweden finally ruled out something as simple as that picture NOT harming real breathing beings. It can’t since it’s a pencil and drawing.

    And where is the harm in a fruitbowl and banana anyway?

    For the U.S. I hope they stop being so prudish. Artwork is self-expression, self-expression is freedom of speech. It shouldn’t be lost or censored mindlessly because some prude out there might be offended at a cartoon character in a show or movie clearly marked for MATURE audiences!

    Heck there’s a bunch of stuff I don’t like. I don’t like titty bars, I don’t like clubs, I don’t like all the sexual stuff flashed on televsion. I don’t like all the filthy rap lyrics thrusted into people’s faces everyday.

    But make-believe drawings of make-believe characters is considered henious crimes against humanity? Exactly WHO is the crime being comitted against? Paper and Ink and pencil shavings. It’s thought police mentallity and nothing more.

    TERA for instance is a prime example of thought-police censorship. Mere legs and stomach is considered AO “Porn”. And the picture above is 3x times worse. Atleast the elins had a top on and original panty bottom.

    It’s like America is ashamed of the idea of the female body really in cartoons. Except if it’s the simpsons or titty-bar.

  • Anonymous says:

    I got a brand spanking nude loli on MY DESKTOP !!Now what are u gonna do about it……
    Seriously reading articles like this makes me feel like loosing hope in humanity, I think I might send some pictures of mine if I can find their email addresses hahahaha….trololol LALALALALA!

  • Anonymous says:

    People can be so retarded….

    I got lots of pictures on my hdd !!!!! Come on try come get me you ass holes.

    They discovered that pictures are not people….omg and these are people that’s supposed to judge righteously !!!

    They can convict anyone for any type of drawing. Even if the artis where able to draw it near to perfect realism.

    Or I swear I might just have had to go there and become Anders Breivik 2.0 and bust him out of jail…

    After reading this I actually felt so compelled that I posted a nude loli on my desktop…It will probably remain there until at least later today xD

  • Anonymous says:

    For those who don’t understand swedish here is a quick translate of the text of one of the supporters of the child porn law and that persons opinion of japan (source http://shedlight.bloggplatsen.se/2012/06/15/8089175-en-skandalos-dom-att-steg-for-barnporren/), racsism anyone?

    — “The situation in Japan is simply a mess for girls and women.
    The patriarchal Japanese approach to girls is that they are sex objects for men. The uniform girls have when they go to school are sex symbols. Many of the men seem to think that women are the sexiest when they look and act like prepubescent children, talking to giant light childlike voice and so on.

    The country has a huge porn and prostitution industries. As one can buy school girls, or going to a club and pretend you get to harras girls dressed as schoolgirls, or watch the half-naked dancing little girls in entertainment programs, or PEEP on “model pictures” of “U15” girls (softcore of “under 15 “-year-old girls) or enjoy enormous amount of” lolicon “available. (cartoon or animated pedo porn.)

    This game viewing pictures from the “mild” in comparison to the childrape game available.

    There are special subway cars that women can go in order not to be harassed and tafsade on by men. The problem is so huge.

    Women are still expected to be housewives. The unmarried women over 25 than a disgrace and is not considered matrimonial material anymore. But the new generation is not completely caught on. Lots of women choose now not to get married and have children, but instead to keep working because they know what route they may deal as a housewife. It is believed by the male politicians to be a problem, even though Japan is overpopulated.

    I could go on and give links on my claims, but I do not have time right now or coping with disgusting sexist pedo material. You can just google “lolicon” or “h-games” to see how bad it is.”

    • Anonymous says:

      Swedes have had their full of bending over for the radical man-hating anti-porn feminist’s strap-on.

      Who would have guessed that Western hentai of Bart & Lisa Simpson getting porked by Homer (squiggles with a bad case of jaundice & polydactylism no. of finger appendanges – which no human has) is the same as Eastern hentai of Mikan & Delicious Flat Chest (squiggles with eyeballs eating half their head & almost no nose & Black & White – which no human has) aren’t people, child porn or pseudo-child porn….

      Just like in Amerikkka, tens of millions have had it for decades.. always been legal. Never prosecuted.

      Just erotic art.

  • Anonymous says:

    Glad a country is not in with the child porn crazyness that has spread everywhere.
    I mean, really, I can’t imagine a worst crime than real child abuse. But recently, stuff like ban on loli manga and charges against people who possess it is not only going too far, it’s actually deviating people’s view from the real problem.
    While courts in the US, Canada and other countries are wasting time prossecuting innocent people in charges of loli manga posession, real kids get abused everyday inside their own homes, in poor neighborhoods and foreign countries where child prostitution happens in a daily basis.
    It’s about the same as violence in games.
    If people were to be arrested for the things they like in fantasy stuff, the entire world could just put itself in a big jail and let it be like that.

    • Anonymous says:

      Exactly right. The priorities are way off. How is censoring and banning manga/anime/games cartoons helping anyone?

      It helps NO ONE. Instead it destroys fan’s lives like they’ve committed terrible crimes against humanity itself because of a cartoon character, it censors the creators and puts a rope around their mouth and neck, it tells everyone that “your not able to express your creation at all unless you follow what we deem your creation should be as or else.”

      The sad part about it too is that I’ve seen a lot of non-hentai type products where they were just mindlessly censored or torn-apart to death because of the smallest thing like a leg, a shot, or a springs.

      Funanimation was freaking out over Vampire Bund because of the character’s clothes and relationship with the main protaganist. TERA was self-censored because of stomach and leg and turned into a crucified “westernized” product, Mugen Soul is being released self-censored because of hot-springs.

      Now these aren’t even hentai titles at all and they still got the censorship hammer treatment.

      Real crimes against humanity should be dealt with, but how is censoring entertainment helping anyone with anything other than criminalizing creators or fans?

        • Anonymous says:

          Equality Now trolls can do nothing but lie as they don’t know reality from fiction – they are deranged.

          Ms. Erica Friedman the President and Founder of Yuricon & ALC Publishing said “Right now, the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund is assisting in the defense of an AMERICAN (tourist) who faces jail time because THE CANADIAN BORDER GUARDS do not know the difference between a drawing of a pipe and a real pipe”.

          Case is resolved with a slap on the wrist small fine – as the Canadian border guards & court didn’t want to look like a bunch of Nazi Brownshirts burning “decadent” Art they don’t like in a bonfire – the bad old Neanderthal Xenophobic days.

          “Would a reasonable person, with kids and a dog and a house and no understanding of manga, or moe look at this picture and *not* think it was creepy and pandering? We cannot rely on people to be reasonable here. Art makes people react strongly and our current climate of fear makes even reasonable people fearful of anything they don’t understand.”

          U Mad (yes, you is MAD)? femihags/moralfags?

  • Anonymous says:

    seriously this picture has nothing shameful, the lust is not on the drwaing, it is on the eye of the people looking at it. so i consider it’s the court who should be ashame.
    it’s only two girls eating, they don’t do anything sexual…

    • Anonymous says:

      They’re implying sexual activity, based on having a phallic object in their mouths, dumbass. The artist is just skirting around the law so he can continue to draw underage girls performing sexually-themed actions.

      It may not be child “porn,” but it sure as hell is putting horrible ideas in people’s heads.

      • Anonymous says:

        “If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!”
        —Roman Polanski to a French Newspaper in 1979

        For the Far East it may be determined differently, but for Western Civilization it has already been settled:

        Western Civilization which is founded upon her eternal Father impregnating (coming upon KJV) a Jewish 12 year old named Mary and giving her to a 30 something year old man named Joseph to sleep naked with and boink at least a Quicky on the real wedding night to be fully legally married according to Judaism.

        Now doesn’t a notoriously well known text, along with additional texts known as “hadiths” have detailed stories of a 6 year old girl going by ummm.. the name Aisha, describing sitting on the lap of an adult man in his mid 50′s named Mohammed & having makeout sessions, and then talking about washing his semen out of her nightgown when she was at the age of 9 during regular sexual intercourse (and whatever else).

        So UK & Swedish feminists have surely already declared these books illegal and want to ban them from Merry Olde England & subject anyone caught in possesion of one of the works to 2 years in prison…

        What you say…. Why Sweden & England would burn to the ground?!

        .. and receive the devil’s dick in hell for questioning Loli loving God & the Loli loving Religions of the World (ALL the Religions of the World).

      • Anonymous says:

        Did you know it was considered illegal for a female to go horse-riding and only guys were allowed?

        Yea, back in the 1950’s where chicks weren’t even allowed to ride horses? Because they had the same b.s. you do mister “I hate cartoon characters” guy!

  • Anonymous says:

    Mhh, I wonder how that decision will fare with the EU law against sexual child exploitation… Cause, you know, according to that law everyone that is or looks below the age of 18, fictional or not, is a child.

      • Anonymous says:

        Realistic means as real as a photograph beyond Spielberg’s Jurassic Park/ latest 3D Poser or a NON CELEBRITY very convincing fake of an 18 year old petite DFC having sex with a picture of the head of an unknown 8 year old Photoshopped in.

        One or two absolutely insane femnazi illiberal socialist oppressed Nations that try social enginnering/childification of their emasculated male population that take away guns, bow & arrows, swords, Film, Videos & have no real freedom of speech such as the UK, had to have its femnazis pass CARTOON SPECIFIC legislation BECAUSE IT WASN’T COVERED by “Realistic”.

        Check Sankau Complex “UK bans loli”

        Nice try Equality Now trolls.

        Even UK websites still have plenty of Miley Cyrus & Selena Gomez under 18 head pic Photoshopped onto the body of 18+ pornstars as Celebrity Fakes – That’s a gray area for the UK.

        • Anonymous says:

          FAIL

          UK femnutzis had to uniquely invent the “Dangerous Cartoon Act/Coroners & Justice Bill” because carttons & animation were not covered at all by virtual child porn, pseudo child porn or child porn EU/UK laws.

        • Anonymous says:

          In my country, “realistic” includes stylized lolicon manga. Charges have been made, contraband – loli manga – has been seized and people have been sentenced. A realistic depiction is not defined by whether or not it can be told from actual child porn, but how anatomically correct(read: human like features) the depictions have. If the bodily proportions of a person are childlike, if its genitalia is prepubescent, if its mental state(derived from their behaviour) is that of a child, that sort of thing.

          So, my point still stands. Realistic depictions doesn’t exclude stylized 2d lolicon.

        • Anonymous says:

          See the directive yourself: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:335:0001:0014:EN:PDF

          It clearly prohibits only real CP and realistic fictional images.

          What is “realistic” depiction is not defined by directive itself, but basically left for member states to decide. Usually in many European countries (where loli is legal, but realistic fictional images are banned) “realistic” image is considered to be something indistinguishable from photograph, so therefore most (if any) drawings are included.

          Mind you that realistic images of imaginary minors were included, not because of manga, but because of fear that “poser porn” (ie. 3DCG) will become so realistic (that one can’t tell difference between photograph and 3DCG) in the near future, so it could be used as an excuse in court trials for real CP.

      • Anonymous says:

        You still cannot legally obtain any fictional youth or child pornography. The only reason why possession wasn’t illegalized along with acquisition and distribution is to not turn people who had cp into criminals the next day.

        Don’t kid yourself, Germany is at least as bad as any other European country when it comes to censorship.

        • Anonymous says:

          You must be refering to XXX hardcore of under age 14 real people.

          Age 14+ sensual “Playboy” nudes such as Bravo magazine & age 14+ simulated sex Kama Sutra positions (Bravo website) are quite legal in Germany for decades.

          Including somewhat exploitative under 14 child nudist magazines as Jung und Frei.

          American femnazi encouraged legislation on possession was rebuffed in Germany because millions of German men of all ages own Studio Seventeen/Seventeen Magazine, Traci Lords, UK 16 year old pornstar materials. Shit even German Supermodel Claudia Schiffer dis a couple of legal XXX studio porn films when she was a struggling model at age 16.

          Blame femnazi Angela Merkel & her femnazi American & German carpet muncher allies for Germany getting idiot.

  • Anonymous says:

    Sweden the Supreme Dumass country of the world. Yes im allowed to say and think that I am from this shi tof a fuck country. In Sweden everything is child porn until proven wrong in Supreme Court.

    • Anonymous says:

      They used to, but in recent decades have been taken over by the most radical of illiberal leftwing radical (non-sex positive) feminists…
      and as a knee vote grubbing politicians reaction to recent “sex crime” rape sprees of patriarchal muslim immigrants…

      Age of Consent is still borderline loli 15… a hair higher then the World average.