Guilty Crown “Anti-Japanese”

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Japanese nationalists are complaining that Guilty Crown is part of an anti-Japanese conspiracy to impugn Japanese territorial integrity.

Episode 17 of Guilty Crown has been accused of being “anti-Japanese” for depicting a map of Japanese territory which fails to highlight the disputed “Northern Territories” (the lower part of the Kuril Islands, between Hokkaido and Kamchatka) as being part of Japan and not Russia:

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Opinions range from this being anything from a simple mistake to a conspiratorial attempt by the broadcasters (none other than Fuji TV, the bane of Japan’s crazy right-wingers) to negate Japan’s claim to the islands.

The territorial map for people lucky enough to have not encountered this issue before:

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The territories are claimed by Japan but occupied by Russia, having been grabbed just after Japan surrendered at the end of WWII, on the basis that anything Russia can get troops onto belongs to it.

Complicated wrangling over the wording of the post-war treaties and which islands they actually refer to has only led to Russia and Japan maintaining their conflicting claims, with the US and EU generally supporting Japan’s position.

The islands themselves are of essentially symbolic significance, being small, frigid, sparsely populated and largely only of economic interest to fishermen.

Thanks to Fuji TV’s involvement, online this is either being taken as yet more evidence of their supposed treasonous political bias against Japanese national interests, or as evidence of just how obsessive the net right are:

“Uji again!” [uji = maggots]

“Caught red-handed…”

“Uji thinks it’s only an anime so nobody’ll care what they put in it, don’t they? Even if it is just a mistake, they should be pressed over it so they don’t try this sort of thing on.”

“I thought this would cause a fuss. But is’t the map by foreigners, so it’s not an issue?”

“God, these damn right wing nuts are even watching the anime for this stuff. They are so annoying…”

“All our anime is being drawn by filthy Chinese and Koreans, so what do you expect?”

“It’s a map from within Guilty Crown’s setting, so I think it is fine to have it that way.”

“I can’t help but think otaku culture itself is just a grand conspiracy to make Japanese apathetic and indifferent to politics…”

“Wasn’t Japan already destroyed in Guilty Crown? So what does this stuff matter?”

“Leaving aside the matter of the territories, the way they are presenting this issue is incredibly malign.”

“GitS had Japanese control up to Etorofu, didn’t it?”

“Come on, Guilty Crown has Japan being destroyed and controlled by GHQ. It’s a resistance story, so the setting is completely different to the real world.”

“Aniplex subliminals…”

“This lot got into trouble over Geass as well for something similar as I recall.”

“How can people who watch anime like this get any enjoyment from it? Not that this one is very good…”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    04:41 20/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    You know, this is pretty funny, considering several people thought this was going to be a pro-Japan circle jerk anime before it aired. I think both sides need to take their tinfoil hats off, but it's still a bit amusing...

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:23 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Japanese love their professionals:

    -pro Go
    -pro Karuta
    and now -pro Circle Jerk

    Is a Circle Jerk meijin in posession of the "Stroke of God"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:42 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    its just obvious that not everyone is a scholar when it comes to historical accuracy.

    Not everyone pays attention in geography class, most think its boring as shit. it was just inevitable that someone was going to fuckup and make an inaccurate fact flub.

    Unless it was intentional to troll the geography otaku.
    In which case - Mission Accomplished!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:43 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    the people who are saying that korea is effecting japan, and china is making them more submissive, have points.

    in all honesty, there are many tinfoil hat nit picks like this, but alot of what they say is true.

    korea is trying to influence japans culture, granted mostly to be more favorable to korea.

    china is trying to make japan their bitch which they are doing through strong arming...

    the point thats up in the air, is how significant either of those are...

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    18:22 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Korean animators just do the grunt work in animating something. The final animation checks for these anime are always done in Japan's internal studios.

    Either way, this is a non issue really, as these territories are so conflicted and contested, most normal people don't pay it any heed. Coincidentally, crazy nationalist do pay attention. But really for nothing.

    Their paranoia is really akin to hitting a concrete wall. There's nothing TO get so worked up over.

    Plus, it's not like they're contesting the integrity of entire nations due to a few small fringe islands nobody is really using to full effect. Either way, nationalism in general is just ugly and counter productive to growth of human beings. As sappy as it sounds, they have NASA space photography of these lands and they do not have some magical borders drawn on it as they look upon it from space.

    All of it is just human paranoia. And the last time I checked, humans are disappointingly idiotic a lot of the times.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:53 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Really? Obviously China is but that's only because they're becoming a major power, major powers exist to make other countries their bitch. And frankly I see a world without the animosity between Japan and Korea as a good thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:39 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anyone wish for their country to be world-dominating. My point is, I agree with that!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:51 20/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Give it up Japan. You are never getting back those islands. In fact, be grateful the Ainu haven't yet demanded independence and taken Hokkaido with them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:48 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I tend to remember that about Ainu everytime a jap talks shit about other people being 'racist' -especially since unlike other nations nips deny deny and deny instead of bettering the situation by admitting facts and wiping out trouble makers after paying their dues about racism.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:22 22/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    The West to Japan contrasts are pretty amusing when you look at it.

    Japanese = Self-Attributed Denialists e.g. denies any wrong they've ever committed

    West = Open Loud Fallacies e.g. deems everyone else is wrong

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:59 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I can picture a big snowball fight in Hokkaido.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:11 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hokkaido's economic scene is way too different from Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu. If there would be independence movements in Japan, Hokkaido and Okinawa will be the likely the candidates.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    18:24 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a sad situation with the Ainu since the culture is effectively dead and after several generations, their people would be fully integrated by the Japanese population that was forcibly placed there. The Ainu have it much, MUCH worse than American Indians do nowadays, which actually holds some leverage. Ainu has none.

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    Comment by Rakshasa
    00:56 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan could have gotten half of those islands back in the 90's, but they were too stuck up and instead insulted the Russian president who had decided to make a good offer on a vodka-induced whim.

    Damn, when I saw that title and picture immediately I remembered the class given by that retired Japanese diplomat, with all the boring-ass details off the whole protracted squabble. (yes, the Japanese think they'll get them back 'eventually' cause they are a superior race that is capable of waiting fucking forever since they're so patient, unlike the stupid alcoholic russians, so the islands are going to be their again eventually)

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol awesome +1

    Comment by Anonymous

    I haven't heard of the Japanese being referred to as 'Japs' and 'Nips' since they cancelled McHale's Navy back in the '60s. How nostalgic!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:18 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's interesting to do a Google Map thing on these islands with the Satellite view enabled. Skinny roads leading nowhere, sparse clusters of houses here and there, and every now and then collections of large buildings completely isolated and seeming to serve no useful purpose. There are mysterious goings on here.

    Japan's ardent nationalists should don their samurai outfits, strap on their swords, put on geta, and go camp in tents on these islands to repel the Russian hordes. The Siberia Yagyu may be getting ready for a second assault.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    18:25 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did you just make a Jubei-chan reference? You TOTALLY did!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:26 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    They will be shot in a minute.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:00 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Geez..And they took it seriously?...

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    Comment by entropy13
    10:45 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The Soviets declared war on Japan a few days before the atomic bombs were dropped.

    At the Yalta Conference, the Western Allies at least promised Stalin that there would be territorial concessions if the Soviets declare war on Japan. Nothing specific, but it was promised.

    The Soviets took what they can. Which includes southern Sakhalin, the rest of the Kuril islands, Manchuria and the Korean peninsula. Manchuria they gave back to Communist China, and the Korean peninsula was partitioned between a US-backed south and USSR-backed north.

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    Comment by Slush
    04:24 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Guilty Crown is a shitty show anyways so who cares?

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    Comment by Satonaka
    06:03 20/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    first 12 episodes are actually. the reason why they're in such an uproar over the latest episodes map is because it's past episode 12, since you can call it an actual show episode 13 and onward :D

    Funny thing is you can actually START watching it at episode 13, and STILL be able to make even MORE sense of a coherent story than what was possible in the first 12 episodes... they were THAT bad XD

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    Comment by Kohaku
    09:51 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah I agree with Satonaka, though I'm on 17th and it's back to Shu hating again since last ep...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:56 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not that he doesn't deserve hate.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Japanesez nazziii!!!!111

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:28 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    who cares about real life, it's fiction

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:00 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Symphogear has hidden Anti-American messages.

    This? has an ironic contrast.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:33 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    FUCK YOU SHIT HEADS!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:52 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Guilty crown, Despite a top quality visual and character design, It had a really sucker story every episode.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:54 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Meanwhile in Edolas, GC was a fine anime about sexy neko girls.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:53 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Come take it by force then japs. No one steals from Mother Russia!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:31 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they need to put a FICTIONAL WORK on every single second of every anime show to make those morons realize that its a fucking FICTIONAL stuff, chears i don't want people like that living on the same planet anymore :/

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:43 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's a conspiracy ! Why Korea is not red as the rest of Japan's provinces ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan already destroyed in this anime , so it just stupid people that take this as a serious matter -_-

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    Comment by Victor De la Croix
    12:52 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also all you fruitcakes who believe in bullshit politics, go jump into a river of sulfuric acid!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:53 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ron Paul said USA is slowly slipping into a Fascist system. I'd say USA has long surpassed the slipping phase and is deep in it.
    Japan choosing wrong sides again. Some countries never learn...

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    Comment by Victor De la Croix
    12:45 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Guilty Crown sucks ass.
    Ron Paul sucks shit.
    You all suck shit out of a rotting ass! :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:07 22/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    fail comeback :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:49 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    All that crap over shitty desertic and unexploitable islands.

    Fucking right-wingers jap.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan hasn't signed a peace treaty with Russia specifically because USA and EU are on Japan's side of the dispute. Russia won't give those islands up not because it's greedy, but because at the state which Russia has been put in after the fall of USSR, any surrendered land will be viewed and exploited as a sign of weakness.
    If Japan plans to continue being USA's lapdog, then sure, continue your nationalistic barking, you masochists. Not like it'll hurt Russia anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:28 22/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I lol'd when I read;

    "on the basis that anything Russia can get troops onto belongs to it."

    and then

    "with the US and EU generally supporting Japan’s position"

    EU is one thing but it never ceases to make me chuckle when I hear US supporting some other country against another country's military being stationed somewhere in said county. It's like the US has never heard of a mirror.

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    Comment by twonline
    19:41 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ha ha... I think they wanted to see whole Japan being destroyed. Cuz' if I remember correctly, they highlighted Japan in that episode to commence some kind of Mass Attack.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:45 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    so aren't u gna wage war on the U.K because of Code Geass?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol
    Japan is under USA hiden occupation since 1945
    usa marines rape japan loli like in Saigon

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:16 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Russia never pretend to 4 Southern Kurile Islandsб namely:
    Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku and Kyushu

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:31 21/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh, come on! Just because the makers of a fictional work forgot to include four dinky islands with no resources or importance whatsoever, that aren't yours to begin with, on the map of GRORIOUS NIPPON, that's enough reason to call anti-Japanese conspiracy?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:40 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    As usual, Aniotas are the worst kind of otakus.
    Mentally damaged shut-ins plagued by anally-retentiveness, they are the Japanese equivalent of those American nutjobs who think that chemtrails are real and Morgellons is an actual disease.

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    Comment by kintama00
    03:55 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Japanese nationalists are complaining that Guilty Crown is part of an anti-Japanese conspiracy to impugn Japanese territorial integrity."

    in lots of america movies asian ppl die, is that a conspiracy too?
    lets war!

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    Comment by Satonaka
    06:05 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    kinda like how the "american" movie Windtalkers was really all about Nicholas Cage hogging the screen for the majority of the movie so people immediately went on the "omg this movie is anti-Native-American!"

    Also in Rambo First Blood Part II he kills a lot of...

    you know what... I won't even go there :P

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    Comment by alternative kyon
    03:52 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    “Uji thinks it’s only an anime so nobody’ll care what they put in it, don’t they? Even if it is just a mistake, they should be pressed over it so they don’t try this sort of thing on.”

    It's not a mistake, it's FICTION

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 20/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    its not a fiction thi is true.






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