Ciel nosurge: “Your Date With Ion = $170″

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Budding fans of the Vita’s upcoming real-time fairy dating game Ciel nosurge have been aghast to learn that the game is episodic and will take over a year to finish and cost 2-3 times the price of a normal title.

According to calculations made by a concerned “game shop employee,” the game may be the most expensive yet for the Vita:

It’s actually quite a bit different to how most games are sold.

The game has 13 “episodes” and a further 3 extra episodes, only the first of which is included with the game itself.

Each episode is going to be released monthly, and they will cost ¥500 each.

So to finish it will cost ¥5040 + (15 x ¥500) = ¥13,040 [about $170]

I’m a bit concerned about how many people will be able to keep playing a game like this for over a year without losing interest along the way…

Never has so much enthusiasm evaporated so quickly:

“So this is the Vita’s killer app!”

“Who’ll be playing this in a year!”

“After a year they will just be releasing the complete edition, count on it.”

“So they are selling an incomplete game and charging as you go.”

“Won’t people finish each episode in a few days?”

“It’s a real time game so there’s only so much you can do over a given period.”

“The retailers will really suffer if they keep playing this stuff for a year.”

“This is like Bandai…”

“It would be better at 1,000 each episode and the main game free.”

“Nobody even knows what kind of game it is.”

“It’s just a normal galge ADV.”

“The Vita itself might not be around in a year!”

“I’ll still give it a try!”

“Expect there to be tons of DLC too.”

“This is shocking, if true. I’ll cancel my order unless it really has the volume going for it.”

“If the DLC is scenario rather than just costumes it could work out well.”

“I’d spend that much on an limited edition set, but I’m concerned about losing interest in the instalments.”

“Gust DLC is normally pretty nice, although this looks like it might be different. I hope they get the balance between moe and serious story right.”

“Half of the games on the Vita have DLC which costs more in total than the game.”

“It doesn’t sound like you’ll get the whole experience without playing in realtime either, so you end up having to follow it on the boards and play it like an MMO…”

“I’m just wondering if there is sufficient volume in the  initial package?”

“She dresses loose from the start, imagine what she’ll be wearing in 16 episodes guys!”

The game is available for pre-order now.


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    Avatar of DarkChaplain
    Comment by DarkChaplain
    16:14 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    so how much do Americans pay for Call of Duty these days? $60, every year with little to no changes?
    Plus like 4-6 mappacks following the release, every month another $15?

    Sorry, but I think in a country that is stupid enough to pay for a FPS with such a sales model, those "oh no, I get actual content every month for 5 bucks"-complaints are kinda dumb.

    Even McDonalds and Burger King over here are raising the prices for single burgers to over 5€, and remember that the Euro still eats your USD even in yet another crisis. So yeah, buy a burger less a month and satisfy your other needs instead.

    Its 5 bucks a months for a product you enjoy, if you're able to afford Consoles and Games in the first place, you can deal with that additional cost.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:10 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    Starcraft 2 was split in three, totalling at least 130$.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:01 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    yup...and we see no one complaining...double standart is da rulez of the internetz...

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:44 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    No friend, MULTIPLE standarts...

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    Comment by Ihmhi
    13:41 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Clearly you've never been to the Blizzard forums... or any gaming site where they talk about it.

    People bitch about the price and about the fact that the game was split up pretty much on an equal level.

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    Comment by Mauvais
    17:58 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yeah, man, if you don't think people complain about Blizzard's sales tactics and release dates, the rock you live under must be quite the spectacle.
    We're still waiting for "Diablo Never."

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    Comment by Michael
    19:09 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    #1 comment

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:09 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "yup...and we see no one complaining..."

    You don't visit Blizzard forums do you? TONS of people complained about that. People on those forums complain about everything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:34 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    And that compares to this case how? 170 bucks over 15 month vs 130 over what? 4 to 5 years by this rate? with 30+hours singleplayer + potentially endlessly more in multiplayer/ custom maps?
    Im no blizz fanboy ( not anymore atleast ) and i dont like where activision is taking them but your comparison is bullshit

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually it will cost about $180 for all 3 b/c blizzard said each one is a stand-alone game and they will charge as such. And since the first was $60 its safe to say that the other 2 will be $60 each as well

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    Comment by CC
    03:35 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    So uhm, where do I spend my money. Even the first expansion doesn't even have have an official release date yet. Not mention the part (the game itself) has quite a few hours of gameplay, more than most games.

    Doesn't really compare to this game tbh.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Well Starcraft 2 offers you 3 really big solo compaigns plus lots of extra units for unlimited online experience. It is worth every cent you spend on it.

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    Comment by Satonaka
    04:38 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly yeah, this is all true. Me personally would never pony up that much money for a FPS... then again My game right now is Uncharted 3, paying the 100 bucks for the limited release that came in that big gorgeous box. I recently also payed I think it was 30 bucks (forgot the cost already, lol XD) of the Fortune Hunters Club to get the first 7 DLC's for one price (A savings of over 40-45%! XD) which includes the first 4 map packs and character skins throughout said map packs, of which over 20 selectable characters have been made available already. DO I use ANY of those downloadable characters, nope, but they're there as part of the package anyway O_o...

    so that's already 130+tax bucks in the span of 2-3 months since game's release.

    Thing is, people with no interest from the get go will claim rip off and "yup, this is the era of the DLC nickle and dime all right..."

    But people who love the games, trust the company making said games, etc. will pony up the money without a second thought, especially if it's something that will interest them.

    Is it expensive when you do all the math up front? oh hell yes it is, but that's the reason why American invented the "On sale for 19.99!" slogan.

    20 bucks "sounds" expensive, but 19.99 is right within your budget if the commercial announces it as "Pay under 20 dollars!"

    Hell they ain't lying, they're a business, and they need to do what it takes to stay afloat in such dangerous times right now.

    Companies are being absorbed, studios are going belly up. The way I see it, if you love a game and like what the company putting out said games year after year sell, then buy into them, pay full price for their games, support the DLC releases, and accept the fact that this is the future of gaming as we know it and hopefully we don't get yet again screwed over like SEGA did with Valkyria Chrinicles 3 in which people DID buy into their sales pitch: "If part 2 sells, we'll go back to part 3 for the ps3!" Which not only did it sell well, but part 3 was still on the PSP and did NOT get brought over to america :(

    Hopefully this is but one of the few screw overs we'll experience as gamers but something tells me it isn't...

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 13/06/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    "so how much do Americans pay for Call of Duty these days?"

    Generalizations generalizing general generality.

    I personally don't see the problem with this.
    If you like it, you'll want more of it, which means you'll pay more for more of it.
    If not, you'll drop it.
    simple as that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:22 14/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look at Australia we have to pay $100+ for a brand new game not to mention $130+ for collectors editions then add on DLC if we want it...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:56 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah it's all fine and good, but they really should just delay it at release the game with everything included.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:19 12/02/2012 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    Call of Duty, Starcraft II, Idolmaster, any MMORPGS ever and this game can all rot and burn in hell.

    I don't pay for overcharged games with little value.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:38 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Is that your excuse for pirating every single game in the world? Try harder.

    Comment by Anonymous

    ...Uh... where did I say I'd pirate...?

    You're saying I have to pirate everything else besides what mentioned above too? You fuckers are crazy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:34 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Just because you don't think games are valuable doesn't justify your piracy. Just admit you are doing something bad and continue doing it and no one will give a shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:28 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.8)

    At this price point doesn't makes more sense just to pay to have a real date with a prostitute, I mean in japan you can probably fuck the shit out of a 10 year old girl for that price....

    Avatar of TNinja
    Comment by TNinja
    15:22 12/02/2012 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Or less. They ain't so picky now. :V

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:38 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    But real women suck.
    I'd rather pay to date a perfect 2D girl.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:41 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Oh man... Siren: New Translation will forever be scorned for starting this trend.

    In Siren's defense, though it started the 'episodic' style of purchase, total price for all episodes accumulated to 60 bucks which is totally fair. This game however... yeah, I'd sooner take a risk with not one, but 3 prostitutes in Phuket who I can freely and tangibly touch, kiss, fuck and sodomize for the rest of the night.

    This is it, ladies and gentlemen; game industry has started applying ripoff practices and we're powerless before something like ACTA takes away our freedom. Live the oppression, or die fighting.

    Avatar of Conduit
    Comment by Conduit
    18:25 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.4)

    What are you talking about? The Japanese gaming industry has been raping the wallets of otaku for years, this is seriously nothing new. Though I can assure you if this is released outside of Japan it will come with a far more sane pricing scheme.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:12 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The thing I'm used to, before this episodic content shit, was DLCs that are indeed expensive, but the games themselves are still OK without it so far.

    Now we're talking about a game that doesn't even let you advance the story until you pay more. As crazy as Idolmaster games are, they don't charge you for the ending.

    Avatar of Mr.Demon
    Comment by Mr.Demon
    22:39 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's true.. With games and Bluray/dvd editions of anime (2 episodes each disc) I don´t see any difference, exept that You could save money if don´t like the first episode and drop the game.. is fair I think...

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    Comment by Mr.Demon
    22:37 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    In Japan People pay for a "Limited" edition that come with a nendorid and such things, pay this price or more... For the initial game You will pay less than a Half of what cost the total package.. if the initial episode have enough content to go trough it for a month then new episodes monthy for 500Y aren´t bad..

    Avatar of Erranty
    Comment by Erranty
    18:31 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or just boycott the garbage.

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    Comment by Bravo
    15:22 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "It takes a certain mentality to be able to pay a hooker and stay hard, if you know what I mean."
    -Shia LaBeouf

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:26 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Truer words never spoken.

    Comment by Anonymous

    You fail for mere mention of LaBeouf.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:37 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    But 2D is superior...

    Comment by Anonymous

    If imagining yourself fucking a girl while the only thing you're fucking is your holeshaped hand is superior to actually fucking a warm, moist and possibly squirting pussy, yeah.

    You're at least 2 centuries too early. Come back when factories start mass producing Chii.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 12/02/2012 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I agree with you sir, but what I would like to see is what the 2d fans will say about a real working Chii, she will be 3D after all (and more expensive than a ferrari I am a mechatronics engineer I know) so I think they will look at the wallet cry a little and proclaim that 3D loses to mechanical 3D that loses to 2D and keep using their hands...

    Avatar of yuriphoria
    Comment by yuriphoria
    19:25 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Just do both.

    Find a flat chested lady, get her to bed, close your eyes and think of Miku.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Why is it always just about fucking for you!

    For me it's about having a heartwarming experience with a cute 2D girl that you can't find in the 3D world, without the responsibility that comes with the 3D world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:41 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    *continue from above...
    and proclaim that 3D<mechanical 3D<2D and keep using their hands...

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:39 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with you sir, but what I would like to see is what the 2d fans will say about a real working Chii, she will be 3D after all (and more expensive than a ferrari I am a mechatronics engineer I know) so I think they will look at the wallet cry a little and proclaim that 3D<mechanical 3D<2D and keep using their hands...

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    Comment by Michael
    17:50 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    don't you guys buy the new cod every year?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:39 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your thinking capabilities seem to lower than even dolphins.

    That's like asking why people buy a new Final Fantasy or any sequel ever.

    This game however is not a sequel. It's a single game split into parts, all of which needs to be paid, and end up accumulating into a price point that is basically more than 3 times standard price even for typical AAA games with much higher production values sold at launch.

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    Comment by Michael
    04:54 13/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    you must be new to episodic gaming.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:43 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    What's wrong with this if each "episode" is decent length and has a self contained story? You look at the Legend of Heroes games and there are three "chapters" to buy, but each "chapter" is big enough to standalone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:52 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nothing, it's just that, like stated, we don't even know WTF the game is going to be like.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:08 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    people who play these games deserve to be ripped off

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:18 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wait til the Vita get hack then it free.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:39 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    We're still waiting for the PS3 hacks to be complete...

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:17 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS3 is a home console. There isn't much incentive to hack it. Besides, its competition the 360 is already pirateable and most multiplatform games can be played there instead with superior quality(Bayonetta, RE5, Red Dead Redemption).

    The Vita however is a portable. It may not be a smartphone, but not hacking it pretty much equals not hacking iPhone. It won't stay secure for long.

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    Comment by Demi-Rebel 72
    16:20 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    So technically, the game is broken into 15 pieces and each piece would cost, according to my calculations via calculator since by math is bad, $11.34? No, unacceptable. That' no effing different from the Dot Hack Scenario how the whole series was broken down into parts and each part cost money as oppose to having the game in full and paying it by usual retail price. Plus, I'll be damned if the game itself was all digital media instead of game cartridge, or card, since that's how the Vita rolls. Plus, who in shit's name would pay $170 for just one game!? It's absurd, highway robbery I say!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:10 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...How dare you compare dothack to this cheap game. dothack atleast was an RPG that you could do quests, train, lvl weapons, enter tournaments. So much more than i expect this "dating" game to be. The original dothack might not have been all that interesting, but dothack//G.U. was very entertainment.

    on a more technical sense. they would have been in multiple disks anyway sense one disk can only hold so much and back then, the more disks you get the higher the cost. anything with 3+ disks back then would have cost a lot more than you think it would.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:29 12/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    even now, microsoft makes you pay more if you cant fit it all on one disc, in the range of 10 million per extra disc.

    that said the dot hack games were 20-30 hour games. but sadly i burnt our at around the 3rd game so i never finished it... i forgot the story, so if i want to play it, i have to go back throgh 40 hours of shit combat...





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