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Trading in a 12 dollar manga for a 2 dollar comic made of flimsy paper help by staples and covered in advertisements? I'd rather not...
They want you to trade in you first volume manga for a worthless comic issue that wont be worth anything in the future, then sell of the mangas they collected to the highest bidders.
Actually, I did a bit of research, and it appears you would be getting what amounts to a comic sampler omnibus...
This seems like a good opportunity for an investment:
1. Buy really cheap volume 1 manga at Bargain Bin prices from TRSI
2. Trade them in for said DC comic sampler omnibus
3. Use the comic sampler for wipping my arse.
Toilet paper is expensive, dammit!
Same thing.
An American comic book that's half full of ads that costs WAY more than $2 (more like close to $4) ... no thanks.
I'll read my manga online for free, thank you very much, DC Comics.
That will show them! You'll make sure that you DON'T spend your money on Manga publishers by NOT spending money on DC Comics! I bet that shop sure is disappointed that they can't not get your money!
Whatever has gone down into their heads, this is bad marketing. You're supposed to be reeling newer subscribers, not alienating them. But apparently they are encouraging to dump your $11.99 graphic novel for a cheap comic that retails at $2.99 Yeah, smart move DC. What demographics they're aiming for? Nationalistic, far-right, xenophobic, and basement-troll crowds?
What's the end result of this? They end up losing most Anime/Manga fans, Asian-Americans, and alienating a small but visible portion of their subscribers. Marvel could also end up gaining from DC's stupidity as the folks they're are generally more open-minded about foreign content than DC is(Marvel been on an Anime-spree recently and I'd say they've done quite a job).
"Nationalistic, far-right, xenophobic, and basement-troll crowds?"
With OBAMA on the cover? Hardly. It's more for Bill Mahr types.
Hell they even have Superman denouncing America, which is hardly what a "Nationalistic, far-right, xenophobic, and basement-troll crowds" would do.
I have to say,
"Yo DC, what you smoking man?"
Money. They make cigars out of $100 banknotes.
At least the american comics are in color with decent art. Manga quality is crap now a days. Then again this site is for blind Japanese loving fan boys.
Yet u keep coming back here cuz ur a whore.
tough choice... hmmmm...
cute japanese manga w/ loli
or
US manga with burly men and women who have chest hair..
Eh, just more proof why DC sucks balls. If you're going to buy American, buy Marvel!
Except, Marvel comics HATES America. They made that abundantly clear when they became one of the few companies that support SOPA.
DC owners Time/Warner support SOPA too, so FUCK THEM BOTH...
Yes, Disney bought out marvel like over a year ago for $4 Billion US.
Farewell, Marvel! Enjoy your boycotts.
"what is "Marvel"? I thought Spiderman & Xmen were published by DISNEY ;)"
Thereby implying that Disney is inherently evil and can do no right.
When they seem to have nothing to lose, why not milk what little fantasies they have from others (who they may claim stole from them).
That's if they read their stuff now...
what is "Marvel"? I thought Spiderman & Xmen were published by DISNEY ;)
What makes a real American? A cowboy hat? Enjoying a fine T-bone steak? Going to a baseball game? Shooting a gun? Maybe it's the freedom to go into a poor country and tell them how to do things! Heh! Those are all great qualities! But one thing that makes a true patriot is the ability to choose an American comic.
When you buy a manga you take a hot meal off a hard working American's table.
* baby cries *
There, there! This poor girl is going to starve to death, just because you bought a funnier, more entertaining Gun Smith Cats issue. Without gross symbols of manliness, what will Americans have to look up to? Our great industries are threatened!
Print media, marketing, merchandise! And they need your help! So the next time you buy a comic, a piece of costume or a dust-collecting action figure, make sure you do the American thing!
and every time I heard cowboy, my mind always float to that broke back...
I think Jack Elam.
Now instead of baseball is American football. In America!
Srsly this is nuts.
Err, where did I ever mentioned what hispanos called football(soccer) or not?
I'm from South America too and let me tell you I still find it completely nuts that in US they call a sport about kicking a ball with your feet "soccer" and a sport about grabbing an egg-shaped ball with your hands "football," I mean WTF.
Sorry man, but hispanos don't want to call soccer by it's name... so, its "Amerincan Football" and "Football" ;)
In fact, soccer is called Football (or FuBball is germany, wich means the same thing) in Europe. Only America and Japan call Football "Soccer".
oh so no i need to buy comic based on pity?
if they sere good, they will sell, the fact thtat they weren't means there something wrong. so instead of asking for pity, why not try to find out what is wrong. let me point out 1 of it. they have to many universe that made readers confuse about the characters. we don't know the real background story of one char beacouse they have many backbroun char. there
What makes America great - or would, if anybody in your country gave a rat's ass about it - is the Constitution. Which, among other things, gives you the right to choose what comics you want to buy.
What also makes America great is the fact that someone with talent can succeed. Which is why people buy manga, as opposed to western comic books.
If DC wants to fight back against manga, they should do so by hiring artists and writers who don't suck. In the meantime, people should exercise their rights to read whatever they want.
Am I the only one who gets this reference?
no xD its from gta
I lol'd so dam hard when i read this
- Q: do you love Japanese Manga ?
- Tsundere: It's not like I love Japanese Manga or anything,... so don't get the wrong Idea, Okay ?
- Q: I see, then how about American Comics ?
- Tsundere: I passed.
- Q: last question! If you must choose American Comics and a Japanese Manga, what will you choose.
- Tsundere: I don't want anything,... but It will be bothersome if you keep insist so I will choose a Japanese Manga. And It's not like I love Japanese Manga or anything,... so don't get the wrong Idea, Okay ?
I choked
on chest hair
,burly men chest hair.
How about hairy armpit too?
Do not forget the steroids mountains too.
wut a bunch of hypocrites - if it weren't for Manga, . . Amerika's Comix industry wouldn't of been revitalized with Manga Style illustrations.
Besides DC has revamped their characters so many tiems that their entire line is a fucking joke.
There is no viable canon when it comes to their character's "real identities"
^_^
Loli or burly women with chest hair... What's wrong with going Australian every once in a while? =P
So you are saying pedophilia or a cape comic?
Loli? so you choose being a pedophile.
Virgin. Sissy. That is who you are my friend.
at least HE kept his anal virginity .
unlike you .
Don't you mean rather gay-like burly men in tights who don't get laid with huge breasted super-hero women who have no sexual desire or most likely lesbian?
If you read the Annihilation Conquest arc, yes all the supermen die and their powers get passed to lesbian superwomen.[Moondragon and female Quasar made out for several issues, then Moondragon dies. Nova gets smashed into a cosmic field and his power is given to a female xeno]
But learning that bit about Marvel in bed with SOPA definitely put them on the boycott list.
Which I don't mind as I only buy Dark Horse anyway. As long as they stay pure.
Powergirl would like a word with you
Did someone say Powergirl?
It's so sad she's not written/drawn by Palmiotti & Conner any more. The best PG ever.
But alas, it happens to so many long-running series. Unlike manga.
Though I love the Powergirl fan arts and doujins. Dem tits are really nice.
Well the entire cowboy thing went sour when the brokeback mountain came out when American crossover with yaoi.
comics have less then 15 pages of horrible looking characters.
Then Japanese are the only ones keeping things fresh in a hourly bases, so it never gets old.
American was founded on people from all walks of life, a land of misfit toys, but of you are white then you are right? like 98% of all comic book heros?
american comic won't appeal to anime watcher unless they start putting in child porn / character... i mean loli too
how about american comic start to put an actual STORY about 1 character instead of the same character on different authors with the same boring same tune story?
Srsly ? Do you really want bulky ugly lolis full of hair ? I'll take my cute lovely japs lolis, thanks.
i have to say i'm more interested in cute girls than muscular men wearing tights so i think i'll have to pass.
only americans like to stare at muscle men.
in tight ...
Dirty Americans can keep their gay superheroes.
We all know you just like staring at men on steroids in tights.
My problem with American comics isn't men in tights. It's the fact that they keep using the same super heroes who keep getting new powers and where one series ret-cons the other. Just make a new super hero instead of giving superman the power to travel through time for just this one series. People complain about the Square Enix beating a dead horse with the FF series, but American comics are using the same damn heroes for over 60 years now.
This is why I never ever follow American comics, even though I love, for example, Batman to death. There's just never an ending for any comic whatsoever. Manga (at least most of them) have an ending and that's it, their story is already told, most don't get "reboots" like the American superheroes so you can start a new title with new characters etc. Besides, great manga titles cover a wide range of genres while the American comic, if it's not superheroes, is very niche.
the reason i stop buying marvel and dc comics. it's endless, just got tired of keeping up with it.
my problem is that theyre all super hero comics. That stuffs overused and kinda boring. Thats not to say manga doesnt have its own cliche overused plot lines and characters but american comics are almost entirely based around super heroes/villians. Just not my cup of tea.
what about the walking dead?
I think there are good American comic, but they're marvel and not DC.
Sorry DC but superman stories are beyond incohesive, and also Stan Lee has written a few mangas himself and has embrassed the different types of "comics" the world has to offer. When it comes to story, charecters, breaking racial boundries and adding in a comptemplative message Marvel does it thousands of times better.
And I can appreciate a well written well drawn manga any day, but just like thier are shit american comics they're shit manga...soooo In the end I'm not going to lump all american or japanese "comics" together just because they're worthless ones amoung the mix.
When you fling hateful remarks about american comics, just make sure they're aimed in the right direction. ;)
screw all american comics except witch blade we all know they got tits for us to look at :V
to be fair, superhero is the mainstream comic, and most of them are more interesting than most shonen manga that go on for way to long. but after you get passed the main stream you hit things like "y the last man" sorry for one example, but im not big into comics... point is we found the niche titles in manga, but the niche comics are harder to find because the main stream is so huge that it eclipses niche entirely.
right, right.
Superman is even older than Son Go Ku and Vegeta.
Yet they still use him in the poster?
Actually it's closer to 80 years, LOL.
Honestly, it's not like anime and manga changed a bit in the last 10+ years. It's the same stuff over and over again. Anime and manga reached the point of a complete standstill the American comics reached a long time ago for quite some time. While the art still changes, the story and way to go about making a manga did not.
And the overall popularity in the west is declining already, at least around here.
I honestly can't understand why some people think they would've to defend anime and manga in the way they do. It makes them look like idiots.
you obviously haven't read a lot of manga bro
Haha, nope you havent read a lot of manga :P
funny, so how many anime did you watch? how many manga did you read? did you compare it with DC comics?
Western comics are too monotonous and ridiculous: Never kill and it never ends. Break out of jail try same scheme and look stupid again. Justice always wins even if your justice is different "mine is the best justice"
Dude, if you dilute ANY story down to its' bare essentials, or just enough to leave it in its' Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt, then you have a story that Shakespeare wrote already. Same with character archetype. EVERYTHING is a rehash, even The Bards' stuff (he just happened to write at least one story that covered every possible story plot involving human interaction).
(Yes, that means the giant space battles, Kryptonite, and gender-changing w/water was diluted out).
Japan pumps out tons of different stories & characters that are usually ultimately resolved and never brought up again outside video games and fanfiction. It's the same whether the story is as a comic or a cartoon. While this means great variety and great cross-sales potential for popular stories...it also means that a LOT of it is crap.
America pumps out tons of comics that have stories dating a good 30-80+ years in some cases, with new writers coming in every so often changing the same characters to something more modern for the time. This gives great familiarity for the fan, but the fan WILL eventually walk away when they never find a resolution - often when a new story arc pops-up referencing stories that occured 20-30 years ago (I'm looking at you, Marvel). Cross-selling is severely limited, as fans are not likely to purchase five different Spider-Man action figures over the course of 10 years, or watch more than a dozen movies based on the same characters/stories before it gets OLD.
What I'm ultimately stating is that if you're bored-of and jaded-by manga & comics...then why are you here in the first place?
bro 13:05
+ 20th Century Boys
+ Air Gear
+ Attack of the Giants
+ Bakuman
+ Berserk
+ Cromartie
+ Death Note
+ Deep Love
+ Detroit Metal City
+ Devilman
+ Full Metal Alchemist
+ GANTZ
+ Gon
+ Hellsing
+ Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
+ Kaiji
+ Kimi ni todoke
+ Monster
+ Mushishi
+ Rurouni Kenshin
+ Slam Dunk
+ Sugar Sugar Rune
+ Vagabond
+ Zetman
and don't get me started with Tezuka
(ok, here we go: Astroboy, Buddha, Black Jack, Phoenix, Adolf, Shumari, Kirihito and so many others)
the main pattern i've seen with all mangas is actually:
"throw as much shit at the fan as possible so these ADD kids will keep reading"
you can say that's the pattern that's tiring manga, since all stories will be a combination of
+ same old tropes
+ drug-induced ideas and/or brilliant creativity
+ and the same old cinema narrative and production design
mangas are movies bro. and yes, we have the Matinee action-packed mangas, the "Independent" obscure mangas and the B-type mediocre-but-fun mangas.
however, all you'll see in DC comics is:
+ a writer full of himself, throwing a lot of philosophical monologues and action scenes
+ good, maybe excellent pencilers and inkers showing off what they learned in art school (meaning: tons of poses)
+ trashy CG painting, nowadays at least. what is it with americans and fear of b&w?
and yes, there's Walking Dead. there's Sandman. there are many others, specially in the Independent comics category. but superhero comics? don't have a chance against most mangas.
and the one who's mad is you bro :P i'm not even mad, just.. disappointed
the arguments above are why i read porn comics instead, they have no plot, bad art, they don't challenge you, but hey it's porn!
"you obviously haven't read a lot of manga bro"
No, you didn't read enough manga and watched enough anime. Once you did you're going to notice how it's pretty much the same thing over and over again with minor changes and different characters.
I'm at the point where I've read and watched so many of them that they're just as stale and old to me as western comics. If not even more so.
When you're at the point where you start to look at all the stuff you've consumed and finally start to notice how it's all the same over and over again you will understand what I'm saying.
It's just kind of sad how some people get so involved in the whole thing that they have to get aggressiv and at times even violent to defend something that's meant for entertainment and imaginary characters.
In this post, butthurt weaboos being told the truthbut are still in denial. You're all funny, virgins.
Dude - Superman's never had time travel. If you're talking Silver Age and before hand, keep this in mind: Most of it was utter tripe, and doesn't count anyway.
Good point, and that's why I like manga. For the most part, it has a beginning, middle, and an end. You can only scrape so much butter (of story) across so many issues (slices of bread).
Anon 06:47 i couldn't agree more with you..
.. if it wasn't that after reading Bakuman i learned the ugly truth: manga stories get an ending because of lack of popularity.
well at least the japanese editors respect their audience and GIVE an ending to the stories they publish.
The specific abilities wasn't the point (although you can't really say silver age doesn't count because it sucked). It's the fact that American comics keep rehashing the same heroes. It would be as if all the doujins (H or non-H) of a popular series, say Sailor Moon, were published by an actual company. Don't you see how confusing and stupid that would be? And Sailor Moon has only existed for 20 years.
And yet they had to reboot their entire universe because they were struggling to keep 80 years of bullshit in a cohesive continuity. And every time they want to change something stupid from that time period they feel the need to go through an elaborate and equally stupid story arc to do so.
Shut up unmanly Jappo degenerate! Go molest a little girl, best you can get!
Why are you on here if you're into jacked-up steroid guys in tights?
Don't forget the women are as jacked up steroid as they can be.
Tiny yellow penis best physically suited to tiny little girl, so it makes perfect sense. Think about it.
Someone has penis envy.
yes. and huge white one likes it in their ass more than a pussy. keep talking ya dumb jock
YEAH! ALL JAPS ARE PEDOS!
hey, not retards.. just muscle bound halfwits. "duuuhhh... wut does dis butt-on duu..?"
And all Americans are retards, funny how it fits more, eh?
You know what's funny?
The comment denouncing America is left alone, while the comment denouncing Japan is downvoted to oblivion.
Oh wait, that's not funny. That's just sad.
Oh shut up. Everyone knows you're just some jap-wanna-be pasty white kid. You're just as American as I am.
So what does that make you a fucking Red Neck
Hillbilly hick is what he is.
an inbred hick.
As a redneck, I still find DC doing this distasteful, so even that's not a good excuse.
i see the low lives are still mass upvoting their own shit still... btw im not anon u downrate to drivel... but their is no way no one would +10 those retarded comments. rofl. way to go champs...
Some of us are more American than you are, you dumb ass hillbilly.
You just has issues with your lack of actually being a true American and have to diss other people and other cultures while waving the flag.
qué puta? yo ni vivo en Estados Unidos! por qué no se mete su comic en su enorme culo, gringo pelotudo? no todos los fans de manga son (norte)americanos!
o.o +2 cuantos hispanohablantes habrá por aca? Bueno en todo caso toda la razón, algunos gringos creen que son las únicas personas existentes en el planeta.. Que se meta entonces su comic de mierda!!
At least they aren't pansies like every man from manga.
There are plenty of manly manga characters.
Sakata Gintoki, Kamina, Ragna, Zoro. List goes on...
In fact, I think Kamina would look manly even when wearing tights.
"With great power comes great responsibility" is Voltaire
comics do not have epic dialogue like:
"do not believe in me who believes in you"
"do not believe in you who believes in me"
"believe in you who believes in yourself"
batman was the only exception and even then you can only beat up the joker so many times
"With great power, comes great responsibility."
That line is attributed to Spider-Man, even though it's been used before, and everyone nowadays sees it as something Uncle Ben said.
Some comics do have epic dialogue.
I love some Western comics, as well as manga.
@13:18
Don't be ridiculous. Light was an anti-hero, not a villain. A true villain acts out of pure self interest or malice, not out of misguided sense of justice.
Shinomori Aoshi, Himura Kenshin (Samurai X)
Vegeta, Goku (Dragon Ball)
Yagami Raito (Death Note) => best villain
I have a friend who works at this comic shop, this article leaves out the rest of the plan ( it seems it also wasn't advertised on the flyer either though) for each manga that gets traded in, a certain amount of money will be donated from the shop.
As opposed to under-aged boys wearing eye-liner?
I'm ok with trap protagonists.
Except those kind of characters aren't in every manga. But men-in-tights are in every superhero comic. Even the artists admit that all they are doing is drawing a naked figure in body-paint, sans genitals; oh, and maybe some belts and boots.