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Final Fantasy XIII-2′s first week sales figures reveal it has been outsold by Tales of Xillia, a fact which is being greeted as a massive humiliation and confirmation that Final Fantasy brand now lies in ruins.

The sales figures (with weekly and total sales)

1. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (PS3) 524,217/524,217

2. Monster Hunter 3 G (3DS) 208,427/730,386

3. Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 182,418/789,871

4. Inazuma 11 GO (3DS) 135,259/135,259

5. Super Mario 3D Land (3DS)112,533/837,143

6. Kirby Wii (Wii) 71,028/398,516

7. Minna no GOLF 6 (PSV) 61,412/61,412

8. Uncharted (PSV) 48,224/48,224

9. JUST DANCE Wii (Wii) 44,021/323,293

10. PokePark 2 (Wii) 43,829/164,018

For those wondering, Vita sales stood at 324,859 – compared to 367,691 for the 3DS.

Meanwhile, Tales of Xillia sold 525,605 in its first week, a fact which has not gone uncommented upon:

“It’s dead, completely dead.”

“Bloody hell, FF can’t even outsell Tales now!”

“So the brand has finally collapsed. I suppose it was to be expected, they’ve just gotten too bad.”

“It sold even less than I thought it would… Maybe I’ll buy it cheaply second-hand.”

“Everyone will wait for the second-hand copies. They’ve learnt their lesson from the first one.”

“It can’t even win in the first week. There’s no chance for it now.”

“This is seriously dangerous:

FF13: 1,516,532
FF13-2: 524,217 (Xbox 360 too small to register in sales figures)

Refer back to this:

FF10: 1,749,737
FF10-2: 1,472,914″

“They were saying it would sell a million without difficulty…”

“And it was released in the holiday season.”

“The Vita is already finished… it can’t even beat the 3DS even now!?”

“Both FF and the Vita are dead.”

“The 3DS is at its peak. I think we can expect Vita sales to grow from here.”

“Considering how bad it is I think FF13-2 did well to sell what it did.”

“Final Fantasy can’t even manage a million now. It’s done for.”

“TOX: 525,605
vs
FF13-2: 524,217
This is a historic moment.”

“Maybe now that awful company will realise how bad a fix it is in.”

“Tales is now the leading JRPG!”


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    Avatar of Canadane
    Comment by Canadane
    10:04 22/12/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    So NA will continue to get a lack of Tales games but now no FF games? jRPGs are done for.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:04 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    I used to play Final Fantasy. Then I took a FF13 in the knee.

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    Comment by ArrowInTheKnee
    20:11 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Awesome arrow in the knee joke approved!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:15 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon 14:04 your my hero.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sheesh, why do you guys hate FF so much? Hypocrites.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:00 23/12/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    why are we hypocrites? some of us have never liked FF to begin with.

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    Comment by DarkChaplain
    07:03 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I for one still love the old Squaresoft Final Fantasy games.
    It's just that under Square Enix the whole brand suffered from a rapid quality drop. Most of SE's recent games have been just plain bad and uninspiring.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:12 26/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    And squarsoft did many other great games like Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger and even another great one that wasn't their franchise: Mario RPG

    Comment by Anonymous

    @Dark
    How exactly are they 'uninspired'? They are just trying to do new things. They realised they wouldnt go anywhere if they continued making the same game all over again after they made FF9.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:00 03/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL have you guys ever thought that the sales were affected by the recent earthquake? idiots.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:24 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha, this is so true.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:14 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    LIGHTNING IS SO BITCH THATS WHY HEHEHE

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 23/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    She was a one dimensional character. Which in her defense was one dimension more than the other characters in the game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:35 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think you can blame the unpopularity of the game on chauvinism. Remember a lot of jrpgs have female protagonist and lightning fits into the tsundere categorization of moe fetishes. A lot more "tsun" than "dere" but still.

    Plus, jrpgs released in the West remain popular in spite of when androgynous, angst-driven young boys are the protagonists. Americans in particular are at least if not more homophobic than the Japanese are chauvinistic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:53 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't care much what other people say. FF13 is quite good as a game in my opinion. It has plenty of depth in many areas. Sure, the corridors can be a bit dull and simple in their design, but the sceneries, visuals and gameplay mechanics defenitly are above par in my book.

    I've played most of the later FF games (FF9, 7, 8, X and X-2 in that order), but I try not to compare this with those, because, frankly, it's a new game with new ideas, and if I wanna play FF7, then I simply start that game instead.

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    Comment by Gradius
    07:04 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Her? "she" is a total macho if you didn't got YET!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:23 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Where are you morons coming from calling Lightning "macho"? It's like 2ch put the idea into your head and you're too busy sucking their cocks to question it.

    She wasn't macho at all. She's clearly an attractive woman and she had an obvious feminine side. If anything her body was a lot more soft and feminine than I'd expect with someone in her position.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I didn't think most of the characters were one-dimensional. On the contrary, I think they all had a lot going for them. The problem was the poor presentation of their situations.

    Fang and Vanile had to make some painful decisions and were faced with never seeing their home as they knew it again, but this was largely brushed over when it could have been a huge, painful, interesting part of the plot.

    Sahz's story was done pretty well with what happened to his son and how he dealt with it. I think it would have been more powerful if we saw more of his past though.

    Hope had a lot of character development. He was mentally and physically weak in the beginning, but he evolved from that to attempting murder, then growing up a little more and realizing that wasn't the answer.

    Snow was well-written and fun, but he needed more conflict. He had great intentions but those intentions were never challenged enough.

    And Lightning was a great character. She was already a soldier and pretty goal driven. She seemed to lack development because we're used to characters who don't start out half as skilled. But as a leader she was better than the majority of FF protagonists in the leadership role. She made great decisions and saw clearly as a soldier, not some over-emotional prick like so often in the past.

    I think Nomura is great with characters and story lines, because he's proven himself in the past, but I think the linearity of the game killed a lot of what was set up for the characters.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:57 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @07:21

    Yes, the dreaded corridors was the only thing that kill FF13. Everything else was great. Thankfully they wont be back in FF13-2 :)

    Comment by Anonymous

    Lightning was awesome. I liked her character and have no problem with her. She was hot too. But most importantly she was capable and intelligent and not some damsel and she didn't whine all the fucking time like most of the more popular FF protagonists.

    Japanese people probably didn't like her because Japanese men are weak and so the weaker the woman the better for them.

    Comment by Anonymous

    that's actually true; the reason why FFXIII and FFXIII-2 are doing so poorly isn't because of the lack of story or whatnot, it's because of the fact that Japanese men hate the fact that there's a female character who is better at a "man's" job then other heroes in the past, and therefore shames the boys playing the games; she makes them look weak and cowardly. Just look at how patriarchal Japanese culture is; women are finally realizing that the men they want to marry all plan to treat them like shit! just look at the reports here on sankaku recently: one of the top things Japanese men worried about was whether their prospective wife was "good at chores" or not; heck, it's the reason that their birthrate is so low: women don't want to marry men who refuse to be there for them. And I'm writing this as a guy who watches tons of anime and plays most every JRPG out there!

    Comment by Anonymous

    I used to play FFXIII. Then Lightning punched me in the knee.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:53 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wow, you really have the aptitude to be bad at this.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I used to play Final Fantasy. Until I took a Tales to the knee

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:37 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Go away already.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:10 23/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    why are they bitching about vita?
    the people actually returned the 3DS because they didn't like the 3d effects
    This time around SONY will beat Nintendo with handhelds

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:06 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i don't know if the Vita will beat the 3DS, but there is a sales numbers caveat that a lot of sites are failing to note when saying the 3DS beat the Vita.

    the Vita only sold for 2 days over the weekend.
    the 3DS sold for a full week.

    the Vita sold 324,859 in 2 days compared to 367,691 for the 3DS in a week.

    the Vita failed to beat 7 days of 3DS sales in 2 days; it didn't exactly fail to sell.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:42 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why did they go with the name PSP Vita? It's just one "S" away from being associated with the world's most reviled OS. Personally I think I'm gonna stick with PSP XP for awhile.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:32 25/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    One of the biggest problems is that the Vita doesn't have a strong lineup of new games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:26 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    except that it's 2 launch days + 3 MONTHS OF PREORDER for the VITA vs the 7 days of a six-month-old 3DS.

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    Comment by Your Name
    10:08 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Unless you look at the Souls games and any other JRPG that XSEED and NISA release in the West.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:01 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    i think all they need to do is remake FFVII and its all done

    was it really that hard?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:53 22/12/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    A remake of FF6 would be nice, or at least do the War of the Magi.

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    21:14 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Remakes of FFVI and FFVII, if done right, would indeed be awesome. But do you remember when Square made a sequel to FFVII? Dirge of Cerebus, or "Please no more of this".

    The guys running SquareEnix have no idea why games like Chrono Trigger, FF Tactics , FF VI, and FF VII were excellent games that people still love today. It's better if they leave the good ones alone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    1. Not nostalgia. They had excellent stories and gameplay.

    2. Sales figures matter when it comes to keeping a franchise and company alive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Best-case scenario for a FFVII remake would be everyone muttering about how it seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:26 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ agreed, although i liked the old games better, square didn't live off in remakes, it made new and refreshing ideas. Quality and dept was it's selling point. Remakes have a chance to flop and disappointing old players, it's nothing but a fan service, and honestly i think hiding behind remakes makes it looks like they're scarred of taking risks. They're being too safe.

    They also don't justify the sequels of their other games, all they see is FF, they have other good franchise they have yet to develop and improve. They're rushing things too much. I think square before had passion, now i think money is all they could ever think off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:11 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Along the idealogies of a certain Malstrom,
    sales figures are an indicator of quality:
    Aside from the 'hardcore' fans that are already in the fanbase, products are 'good' if more people are willing to shell out their cash for it.

    In FF's case, 13 had some selling points (lol, hype and disbelief), but had terrible reception - now, its quality is felt in the aftershock (in this case, XII-2's sales lol)

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:55 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    HD releases of those games might be nice. Like ports with improved graphics and new fmvs like they keep doing with FFIV.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:03 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @01:34

    If those games are so good, then I dont see the point of a remake. Think about it. If there happens to be a remake, and it was absolutely well done, You all would just go play the remake and forget all about the original. Let the games be, we consider them a masterpiece, just leave it untouched.

    They should really just re-release all the old FF games to the PS Store and then they might have a good dollar. For now, just leave SE be, they arent stupid, they are just trying something new.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:52 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Square has been doing real sequels for games for a bit and its always been oh god no more of this. Tactics advance? Fuck that. Dirge of Cerebus? Fuck that. X-2? Fuck that with a rusted chain saw. Remakes they haven't quite had so much difficulty with. The FF4 5 6 advance show that imo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:48 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they are reserving the FFVII remake as a when-all-else-fail card, they know fans want it, and it will be a guaranteed hit due to it's massive fanbase(if they don't fuck it up).

    Comment by Anonymous

    Argh, Im sick of you fricking FF 'fanboy/haters' that only like the old games because of your stupid nostalgia. And sales figures dont matter, quality does.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:57 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Need a HD remix of FFVI, and keep the bgms and gameplays system unchanged and add voices.

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    Comment by Chen-04
    20:27 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    ..and please.. no english dub for release over here.

    Comment by Anonymous

    No English dub? Didn't you hear Kefka in Dissidia? His English voice was perfect.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:22 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    No way man, if they remake FFVII now it would be worse then FFXIII. Squere can't produce quality games. The only department they are good at is graphics and cutscenes but that doesn't make a whole game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:48 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    if they remake FFVII, it would sell easily 2 Millions copies easily, but why the fuck they still dont understand it? they just keep going down with every FF they make now =\

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:51 22/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    If they redo it, it will just end up like FF13. They would turn FFVII into the biggest disappointment ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:58 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    13:05
    Okay I'll admit it. That's why I'm getting it. All it took was that scene of Lightning changing from her old outfit into her new armor and I was hooked. She's hot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:34 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii

    What were you were saying about scores?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:04 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @13:04

    Lol, you want a brown FF game? It will not look pretty.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:05 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lightning looks sexy in this game. Isn't that enough of a reason to get it?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, FFXIII sucks. Characters were just boring.
    I will see if FFXIII-2 will actually get good scores. Then i might consider buying it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:04 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh god don't remake it. Just do another game with equally gritty settings and it'll do well. None of these shiny and colorful surfaces with abstract arty structure designs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:55 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    1 of reasons that FFXIII sucks:

    THE LINES ARE TOO STINKY!!

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    Comment by Rei-Sama
    02:01 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I read that remaking VII would take 3x times longer then XIII, seems like XIII had no content at all, and now that XIII-2 can be on one single Xbox disc, seems like it's 3X shorter than XIII

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    Comment by oniichan
    07:48 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have recently revisited VII and can believe this time line. The detail they placed in this game is stunning. Each house is furnished to the finest detail. Cigarettes with ash in the tray, bottle caps next to the bottles, etc.

    If they ever decided to remake it all they need to do is up the resolution. Keep everything the same. but also allow a First Person view of the surroundings as this would add the extra Pull.

    Characters would need to stay in Anime form. This is the most most most important element. Changing character design to anything else would destroy this title. This is my biggest worry if they ever redid it, as the PS3 demo Aries looked to Human.

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    Comment by Rei-Sama
    08:00 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I did not mind that she looked too human in the cinematics, as long as they kept some charm in VII game from the old VII

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    Comment by Hayate
    12:02 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    agreed with u there

    Comment by Anonymous

    Guys, just stop. You guys are idiots. Let FF7 be, quit getting nostalgic, and play some other games. FF13-2 looks like an awesome game, if you dont like the newer FF games just because they arent like your oh-so precious nostalgic treasure FF games, you suck and you dont deserve to be even called a gamer. If they make another JRPG with the same outdated stuff like in their older FF, it WILL NOT go well. So SHUT THE FRICKIN HELL UP!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:44 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    A few things, one, the new FF games are absolute shit, if you like them, good for you, I imagine a few people must. Two I am NOT a nostalgic ridden FF fanboy, I have never been a big fan of them so this is a non-biased response, the new ones are even WORSE than the old ones were, at least they were bearable. Three, no one is going to take you serious online if you use the word "frickin" it makes you sound like an adolescent girl afraid of using naughty language, either learn a plethora of new vocabulary, or be the like the rest of the population on the internet and use vulgarity, not half assed cursing like "fricken".

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:11 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    1. Theres nothing wrong with the newer ones, you guys just want every FF game to be like FF7. FF10 was really good, and so was FF12. FF13 was a little misstep, not because of the combat, just the sheer linearity of everything. Why would you call of this absolute shit?
    2. Umm, why exactly?
    3. Bad habit. Its just that there are sites around the internet that kick you out if you try posting curse words. Apparently it isnt like that here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:03 22/12/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    FF fanbase has two arguments:
    1) FF games are not innovative enough
    2) WE NEED REMAKES

    I hate you guys. Square, just make a brand new FF title as awesome as 12 or 10. And forget about 13 (even though I liked it).

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:42 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    FF X wasn't that bad, but it gave us a warning signal

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    FFX was awesome. People were way too hard on it. The story was great, the characters were fun, and I appreciated the concept and themes behind the worlds in that game. And it fucking had Auron.

    But it was a bit linear, and the complaints about that were already rolling in. So the fact that they made FFXIII as linear as it was was ridiculous, because they had negative feedback on that exact issue years ago with FFX.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:00 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "I just hope now that everyone's got their chance at being all fair-weather fan about FF XIII-2 they actually play the fucker and shut up. Thankfully it's on its way here next month anyway and I get to think for myself.

    To put it succinctly, 2ch can eat a dick."

    That basically sums up my thoughts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:13 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @HouseLife

    Yeah, geez how close-minded you 'FF' fans are.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    18:04 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I just think people were waiting for peoples' reaction to this game before purchasing considering so many felt disappointed by XIII. I personally don't understand what was so wrong with it. The characters were decently written at worst, especially true now that I'm seeing what passes for 'writing' in Star Ocean 4. And people had the gall to say Infinite Undiscovery was worse than SO4 and I'd like those people to wear special tags so I can beat them unmercifully upon recognition.

    Either way, I wish the game I worked on had had such 'abysmal' sales in its first week. Most games never even reach 500K. Resonance of Fate needs a sequel like nobody's business, and its lifetime sales are around the 500K mark across the planet, and not even at full price for all of those sales.

    I just hope now that everyone's got their chance at being all fair-weather fan about FF XIII-2 they actually play the fucker and shut up. Thankfully it's on its way here next month anyway and I get to think for myself.

    To put it succinctly, 2ch can eat a dick.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:23 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't want a remake of FFX. I know, I'm in the minority that hates X, but I truly thought it was a terrible game, with a terrible plot, that was incredibly easy except for 2 story boss fights. The only fun I had in the game was at the very end when the Monster Arena was unlocked.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:20 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    As long as we keep having Kingdom hearts and maybe some old FF and star ocean remakes I will be happy

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:48 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well that's the thing. The international market will easily boost the FF sales.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:31 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know why people think FF is done for. FF coming in second to a game doesn't mean it flopped. Sure it usually does better than everyone, but that hardly means anything.

    That's like saying Harry Potter flopped because it came in second to Lord of the Rings. The reality is that both made tons of money. It'll be the same with this FF game, especially when the sales go international.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:03 25/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everyone should stop talking about this completely since all they can say is everything is done. NOTHING is done, there is obviously a market and there will be for a long time. A few years ago people also said anime is done but it is now very far from it. I hope and believe that producers will ignore the loud mouthed idiots of the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:57 24/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    People who like playing Japanese video games are actually going to have to learn to read Japanese. OH THE HORROR!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:36 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Final Fantasy will be fine. As much as people bitch about FFXIII it did really well. And as much as people are bitching now FFXIII-2 will do really well. And then even if those people bitch after it does well, FFvsXIII will do extremely well.

    And then they'll still bitch because "It wasn't exactly like this other FF that I really liked in the past but at the same time I want them to keep trying new things!"

    Long story short, stop being sheep and fucking play the game before bitching instead of letting 2ch do your thinking for you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:05 25/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 18/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    As do I.

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    Comment by Vincent Giannell
    12:52 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I doubt it. Tales may have Final Fantasy beat, but I have a feeling that won't last very long. I'm sure Final Fantasy will still keep going despite all this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:40 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    you already got graces and abyss, stop whinning

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:32 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I didn't expect massive sales records to be broken with this one but ya, it's probably coming off the momentum from its prequel.
    IMO, Square has messed up the whole open-ness of the FF games. Though it didn't have much of a story, I believed FFXII nailed the gameplay and open word aspect dead on. Trying to innovate, they kinda fell failed and failed pretty bad.
    But still, i'd like to read reviews first. Sales is one thing, the game could still be good.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:50 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What in FF13 could you call innovation again?

    Comment by Anonymous

    The combat system was amazing, especially the class system. I'm a huge fan of the the direction of the soundtrack. The characters were well written (like them or not, they were well fleshed out.)

    People think if they don't like a game it means there was NOTHING good about it, which is petty and ridiculous.

    Comment by Anonymous

    The combat system.

    Comment by Anonymous

    The combat is fine in 13, and there will be an open-worldy map like FF12.

    I dont know why they wont make a game like FF12. Its still isnt outdated, Xenoblade has done it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:26 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They already disbanded the Tales studio over at NB a while you know.I bet they're feeling pretty dumb about it right now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:57 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    they didn't disband it, they just got absorbed.

    Comment by Anonymous

    i'm afraid i've converted to western RPG's. jrpg's will have a special place in my heart from childhood, but i don't play them anymore. tales is the last one i was interested in.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Xenoblade Chronicles
    The Last Story
    Pandora's Tower
    Most Tales series

    All Great JRPG's that are better then FF after 1-7

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:43 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    chrono cross?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:02 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    u failed at most tales games ...

    Comment by Anonymous

    it's simply a different period. when tales of xillia was out, it was the only important title. now we have vita, 3ds, 3ds games, skyrim, tloz, etc.

    i still think that ff13-2 will be better then ff13, that was a good game afterall (not a good rpg, but a nice game).










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