Korea: “We’ll Surround Your Embassy With Sex Slaves!”

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South Korea’s president has threatened to surround the Japanese embassy with “comfort women” statues if Japan does not start coughing up more apologies and cash for the alleged wartime misconduct.

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The issue began with a Korean nationalist group erecting a bronze statue of a young girl “symbolising the comfort women issue” directly opposite Japan’s Seoul embassy.

Korean authorities refused Japanese requests that they intervene to stop the statue’s placement.

This soon inflamed Japanese sentiment, but when the Japanese government failed to make any concessions the Korean government decided to up the stakes.

In remarks made to the Japanese PM, South Korean President Lee Myung-bak is said to have insisted that “this wouldn’t have happened if Japan had shown some understanding [toward the comfort women issue]” and went on to threaten that “if they don’t take steps in good faith, a second and third one will go up.”

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There is strong Japanese resistance to acceding to potentially endless demands for wartime reparations – the 1965 Treaty on Basic Relations between Japan and the Republic of Korea contained secret provisions in which South Korea promised not to demand further reparations in return for billions of dollars of aid, which Korea chose to spend on economic development rather than victim compensation.

Although the treaty made compensation the responsibility of the South Korean government, it maintains it has no duty to provide further compensation to its people and that the matter is now closed.

Demands for compensation continue in spite of this, most notably by individuals attempting to sue the Japanese government themselves – but provisions in the various post-war treaties normalising relations with other countries and limiting further reparations have been upheld by Japanese courts as making these suits invalid.

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As far as the actual historical facts are concerned, although the abhorrent behaviour of the Japanese Empire towards both its neighbours and its own people is beyond doubt, the situation is complicated by the competing versions of history on offer.

Both Japan and Korea boast long traditions of exporting their women as indentured prostitutes throughout East Asia (a tradition which arguably continues to this day in the form of both prostitutes and pornography) – the two opposing versions of this history are that all “comfort women” were sex slaves snatched up from Japan’s colonies, versus “comfort women” largely being simple prostitutes who voluntarily opted to provide sexual services in response to official recruitment efforts.

Koreans claiming victimhood have also been aggressively pursuing large cash settlements with the assistance of Korea’s notoriously shrill mainstream nationalists, most of whom display levels of xenophobia and jingoism which make even the Japanese look cosmopolitan by comparison.

On the Japanese side, those claiming the entire “comfort women” issue is merely a diplomatic cudgel being used to beat concessions out of Japan have generally been aligned with extremes of revisionism, which maintain Japan was an innocent victim, first of American aggression and later of Korean and Chinese propaganda – needless to say, this is the version which now predominates online.

Whatever the historical facts, in Japan there is a strong sense that erecting such statues opposite an embassy is an incredibly crude way of attempting to extort concessions, and one only likely to backfire:

“And if we withdraw the embassy?”

“There’s no point in even taking any notice of people like this.”

“‘Show us good faith!’ – pure yakuza tactics.”

“Bury your wretched country in the statues, please!”

“He’s not ‘warning’ anyone, that is a threat, plain and simple.”

“They just love picking fights with all their neighbours…”

“When I imagine the embassy hemmed in by comfort women statues I can’t help but laugh.”

“Keep at it, and show the world just how crude a nation you are.”

“Make 200,000 of them and you’ll have my respect.”

“Didn’t our government just conclude a 5 trillion yen currency swap in their favour? And this is how they repay us?”

“They will just keep demanding money forever.”

“Only in Korea could a bunch of prostitutes make themselves out to be victims and then threaten an entire government.”

“Make a thousand of them and perhaps in a thousand years they will be Korea’s moai…”

“Can we surround their embassy with statues of all the Koreans who have raped Japanese women?”

“The only people this harms are the Koreans in Japan who are desperately trying to manufacture a Korea boom. Now even the idiots can see how anti-Japanese their country is.”

“More of their threaten-and-beg diplomacy.”

“This is shameful – doing something like that to an embassy, I think it’s good grounds to withdraw it.”

“It takes a particularly kind of country to have their president try to hold another country’s embassy hostage…”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    08:57 19/12/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    "Indentured prostitutes?" Seriously? Yeah, insulting victims help.

    Look at how Germany handled accusations of WWII atrocities. No whitewash of history, plus vocal apologies, while putting as much distance as possible between Nazis and present day Germany. "Yes, atrocities were committed, we apologize on behalf of our ancestors, but we're a different people now."

    And now Japan? For some reason, Japan government seem to see themselves as the same entity that started WWII in Asia, and thus feel the need to cover up for themselves. Covering up and whitewashing of history is a sure sign of guilt.

    A simple apology would deflate all the rage.

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    Comment by Van-d-all
    02:32 20/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    On the other hand, Russia barely accepts the fact of atrocities that have been committed during WWII (well, more like XXth century...) on both neighbouring countries or even their own citizens. Good luck trying to make them care...

    Honestly, I think Germany is one of the few countries that makes up for it honestly enough so that the mistakes aren't happening again.

    Comment by Tenno Seremel
    19:57 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Russia didn't even exist by that time. It's not that it exists now anyway :}

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:59 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No....No.....russia did nothing bad with the Armenian genocide, millions of deaths at Stalingrad, and the gulag.......it was just population control. Kids these days

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    Comment by Gitami
    11:44 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And the political re-educatees. Some of them just weren't capable of graduating so they received detentions.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:05 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    im a moron what did Russia have to do with the Armenian genocide? and weren't the millions of deaths at Stalingrad soldiers during the battle? I mean i know the communist regime killed a fuck load of people but im was obviously licking the windows when i learnt about the genocide and battle of Stalingrad

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:02 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    this is the 4th time korea demanded a sorry post from japan i mean come on my mom didn't give so much as a fuck to what happen to my grand dad i mean seriously its history a.k.a over move on but no we still must make our self look like extreme pricks in front of the world

    thank god i was born in england and not korea

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:45 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess the two Koreas aren't that different in some ways......

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    Comment by ayami123
    20:23 12/11/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    From my Point of View

    Democratic Country Threaten to publicize the fabricate content to make you evil if you don't give them money.

    Communist Country Threaten to Shoot you their Continental Missile id you don't give them money.

    Money Make the World GO ROUND :))

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:45 23/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They want money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:53 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, it is kind of hard to accept your mistakes when you take that many casualties after a sneak attack, but you're right... they even made a pact with Nazi Germany.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The jews are lying their asses off about the Holocaust. Have you heard of the SIX MILLION MYTH?

    Check it out.

    http://sixmillionmyth.blogspot.com/p/six-million-myth.html

    Also search for David Cole, a jew who told the truth. See how they treated him.

    They are not noble people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:26 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And so, people still believe anything they read. As for me, I'd much rather see things for myself instead of taking other people's words.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:22 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're right in the sense that Japan has made the mistake of denying their actual history and so on.However, the Koreans, with regards to this matter, are clearly in the wrong too.They took the Japanese's money and said "all right, let bygones be bygones" and now they're asking for more.Not too worthy of respect for breaking their promise isn't it?Both nations are shaming themselves.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:44 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, Germany was a great warrior nation with a proud history going back to Frederich the Great. Now they have been housebroken by the conquering Americans.

    Enjoy having your nation taken over by your Turkish untermenschen friends.

    I weep for you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:17 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    thank you lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:01 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You don't need fell sorry for Germans because year of 2014 very is close.

    (you know what happed at 28 July 1914, don't you)

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:19 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Serbia on 28 July 1914. Marking the start of WWI. 2014 is the centenary. History repeats?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:46 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 04:53

    Your comment is useless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:53 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wikipedia makes all online trivia useless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:45 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Would you like to clarify your comment? As is, it makes very little sense.

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    Comment by Gitami
    11:46 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They wrote a blank check.

    Considering Greece that just might happen again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:30 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    forget Germany and World War I (and even World War II), we've must concern right now on the situation on North Korea and if that son of former NoKor president, Kim Jong-Il will declare World War III!

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    Comment by Kiljoy616
    01:17 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Considering how much money and influence Germany has without lifting a gun I would not feel sorry for them, they are not fighting wars all over the place with no end.

    Japan is fine if Korea wants to send some young virgin lolitas I am sure they can find a place for them, hell send a few over my way I know I can find something for them to do.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:25 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The germans did whitewash some of it out. My mother was born late in the war. German history between 1933 and 1945 was basically wiped out, not even mentioned during her education. I don't know when they started teaching that again. From what I understand that is similar for japanese education.

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    Comment by Cosplaying God
    23:28 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So if people are to have things like this, Native Americans must get apologies from those colonizers. Same goes to the Aztecs. While we're at it. Americans must also get apologies from the British because the red coats killed some of their men.

    And they say that they hate racism.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yes, Native Americans must get apologies (and reparations, which they won't). Aztecs are unfortunately unavailable, since they're mostly dead. Americans did get reparations from the English at the end of the War of Independance. Don't you think you'd be entitled to some excuses and some compensation if I bludgeoned you to death? What has racism to do with this? Christ, this site is like a honeytrap for horrible people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 06/01/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is just all fucking bullshits
    japs and some otakus in this site say that jap government already apologized but the reality is they are arguing the nanking masccre and sexual slaves were faked by china and korea government. Also the jap gov only sent a little financial support once in the past

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:52 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    on the other hand Germany is full of pussies today who scream invoke Godwin's law whenever anyone tries to take down a brutal police state

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:10 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    what germany is a bunch of pussies you say but japan isn't ? their whole culture is pussified

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:00 19/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.9)

    something that should be remembered is that in 1965 the South Korean government was little more than a military junta supported by the US where as now it's the actual people who get a chance to have a voice.

    In general the Japanese get away with far to much in regards to their behavior in ww2, it's much like if the Germans said "hey all that happened was the Russians invaded East Germany for no good reason, we were only trying to improve the situation of good European people." The difference is of course, South East Asia is made up of insignificant bank waters and enemies of America (at the time) and as such the world in general didn't care what happened with Japan.

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    Comment by yaku
    11:13 19/12/2011 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    I always wonder what would happen if Germany had also done something similar to Japan and omit all the Jewish genocide and invasions, a shitstorm would happen, that's what.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:20 19/12/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    The atrocities by both the Germans and the Japanese during what the West calls, "World War 2" were horrendous, but most Japanese and Germans of today are trying to move forward and are ashamed on what they have done. The modern tensions that are between Korea and Japan go further back than WW2. The Japanese pirates screwed up with the Koreans, and the the Korean navy whooped Japan's navy (if it could be called that) back during Hideyoshi's ill fated crusade into China when his infantry lost to the power of the Ming military power house. Then Japan came back 200 years later and tried to retake Korea, and they did subverting traditional Korean authority and culture.

    However, the Japanese with their pride and success, and the fact that early Japanese architecture and poetry is defiantly Korean or at the least influenced by Korean kingdoms not to mention that we have a lot of evidence seeing that Koreans and Japanese are essentially the same peoples with various cultures (mostly because its an island nation vs. a mainland nation) and the the fact that the Japanese government and the Korean government both try to constantly prove the other wrong makes it so I don't think either government should apologize nor give in... just stop and move on from these hostilities. Come on... Kim Jong Il is dead move on with your lives.

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    Comment by Ota-Kool
    15:31 19/12/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Pedobear said could they make a statue a llittle bit younger version or a chibi at least?

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    Comment by Crazy_O

    "but most Japanese and Germans of today are trying to move forward and are ashamed on what they have done."

    Im (half) german and not ashamed of anything, i dont remember myself doing anything or my parents or my grandparents. They were like 8 years old at that time. In fact im proud of this country.

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    Comment by Gradius
    11:33 19/12/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    The so called "jewish genocide" was under 500K to begin with.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:50 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    lol holocaust denial.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,355188,00.html

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:50 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Regardless of the number, it is still classified as a genocide and is thus an atrocity to begin with. Never mind the understatement of numbers, it doesn't change the history of the Nazis. Most Germans of today are ashamed to even call them German.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @ Anon 12:50

    You have been brainwashed by your overlords. Keep sucking on that Israeli dick and keep you wallet out!

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    Comment by alidan

    they made it illegal to research, so the real number will never be known, and the common 6 million jews came from russia, and at the time... not a very trustworthy country.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    korea's government is still the same military junta under a different banner.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:07 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Uh, the "military junta" you're talking about was nowhere to be found in the 70s and 80s because South Korea was under a dictatorship. And then was promptly replaced by a "more democractic", multi-party system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:11 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No. The South Korean politicians encourage flag burnings everytime the Japanese politicians pay a visit. They are far from democratic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:02 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Strange thing: South Korea is more democratic in Japan by political system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 06/01/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    Flag burning is what japanese are good at

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:55 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...excuse you?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:14 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The reality of foreign people in Japan from the experience in English conversation schools and others.

    American: We did good to the world, why we have to apologize. Some of them think their deed was wrong, but they dont think they have to apologize. But for some reason they think Japan should apologize. Is this racism, or discrimination, I dont know. But I am sure they are not equal opportunists. They treat people differently based on something.

    British: Hah? Opium war? I dont know. Lots of them dont know. This is the reality of them. They also say their colonial policy was better than japan's.

    Dutch: Never apologized to Indonesia. They criticize Japan about their citizen having to live in prisons where they say the condition is too hard for people. But such prisons were built by dutch for Indonesians.

    Anyway, please ask them. They make lots of excuse why they dont need to apologize. But at the same time they say Japan and others should do. They behave like a teacher to Japanese students, and talk as if they are morally better.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    03:42 03/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    None of those countries is demanding apologies from Japan anymore, as it was all settled a long time ago in post-war treaties and such.

    "...(Americans) think Japan should apologize"

    The idea that you should apologize is only in your head not in theirs, because you're accustomed to people demanding apologies for the mistakes of your family and ancestors. A fine tradition, but it doesn't exist in the west.

    You feel like they are demanding apologies from you because that is what you would demand from them if you were in their position. In reality, They don't expect you to apologize.

    PS: I'm assuming you're Japanese. My apologies if you're not.

    PPS: ところで私はアメリカ人じゃない。

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:57 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Id like to know if you think about your country when talking about Japan's wartime history.

    When I talk about histories of other countries, i always compare them with Japanese history. If Japan and another country have a similar historical event, I think I should have one opinion to Japan and the other country for this event.

    But it seems this is not always the case for foreigners in Japan. They change their opinions. Even for very similar event, they say one opinion for japan, and say another for their country. And they always downplay their own countries wartime history and colonial policy and demonize japan's.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    03:12 03/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    You don't make much sense, but what I gather from your words is:

    "If I want to give an opinion on the matter of Japan and Korea's military disputes, my own country must have experienced a similar dispute, otherwise my opinion is invalid"

    Is that correct?

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    Comment by yodawg
    14:08 19/12/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    pretty sure koreans donated millions of dollars for the sendai earthquake. out of a country of 50 million that's pretty considerable.

    now imagine like a third of all koreans, just going around the internet, newspapers and history books, denying that the sendai earthquake was such a tragedy, and the most adamant of them even saying these japanese deserved it.

    that's pretty much what's going on with comfort women, and it gets people angry again for none of the right reasons.

    i think germans handled their situation much better.

    germans feel victimized about their atrocities in WW2, but overall they aren't treated with animosity today because they geniunely apologized and they didn't go behind closed doors and recant their apologies.

    eventually one country needs to commit a solution like germany did, else there will never be resolution, like slavery in the US.

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    Comment by Riiku
    23:12 19/12/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    I think treating a nation as a "whole entity" is retarded. You have to treat each person individually. Some germans deserve to be skinned alive and burned, while some germans deserve to go to fukken heaven. Same with koreans and japanese.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:28 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, but in terms of diplomatic relations the majority's choice is taken as that of the nation's.There is just no way to clearly tell who are good or bad in a population of tens of millions.

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    Comment by Riiku
    00:31 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    And that's exectly why you shouldn't trying to tell who's good or bad until you can narrow it down to a person

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:31 19/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I heard a few years ago that Germans and French made a history book together (about the 20th century) that would be used in German and French schools. It would be great if Japan and Korea would one day get so far but diplomacy doesn't seem to be one of their strengths.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:01 22/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    >pretty sure koreans donated millions of dollars for the sendai earthquake.
    Japan does not receive it.

    Japan suggested the compensation of the method same as Germany, but it was refused by the S Korean government.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 21/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hence why Germans are treated better in Korea









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