36% of 16-19-Year-Old Boys “Sexless”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Dec 1, 2011 02:02 JST
- Tags: Dating, Marriage, Money, Onanism, Relationships, Statistics
Japanese statistics which suggest over a third of male youths and nearly two thirds of female youths have no interest in or an active dislike of sex have lately been exciting the concern of Japanese online.
The results of the latest governmental survey of Japanese attitudes to sex and marriage, undertaken every 5 years, reveal a society in which men and women are apparently increasingly alienated from one and other.
The survey found 61% of unmarried men aged 18-34 have no girlfriend, a 9.2% increase from 2005. For women, 50% had no boyfriend (suggesting they are tending to date older men).
45% of both sexes actually said they were not particularly interested in dating someone of the opposite sex.
A quarter of unmarried men and women in their late thirties also reported having had no sexual experiences at all.
However, despite all this, both sexes do apparently desire marriage – 86% of unmarried men and 89% of unmarried women report wanting to wed. Over 40% reported economic uncertainties as preventing their marriage.
A related survey of young people aged 16-19 found extraordinarily low levels of interest in sex amongst youngsters – 36% of boys reported having “no interest” in or “dislike” of sex, up 19% in only 3 years, and amongst girls it was up 12% to 59%.
A wide variety of interpretations of such findings have been proffered, although thus far nobody has actually attempted to do anything about the issue.
The increasingly destitute younger generations of men (who are more often than not expected to sustain a dedicated housewife whether or not children are involved) are thought to be deferring marriage and even dating for financial reasons.
More speculatively, there are some who consider their traditional masculinity to be increasingly in doubt, with the media having concocted such terms as “herbivorous men” to highlight the trend.
Women meanwhile face problems of their own – those in their late twenties and beyond are widely regarded as having poor marriage prospects, if any, and some do not even find the prospect of married life appealing in the first place.
It has also been frequently suggested that they tend to have unrealistic expectations as to the income and status of their desired husband, which when coupled with low incomes for young men and their own short shelf-life serves to drive marriage rates down further still.
As the actual numbers of Japanese besotted with such solitary pursuits as doll fancying and anime watching are insignificant, it is unlikely such pastimes have anything more than a tiny effect – although they do make inviting targets for media and political harangues.
2ch has some interesting alternative interpretations (focused exclusively on the issue of young people not having sex, for some reason):
“Virgin excuses.”
“Isn’t that when you most want it?”
“They should be at it like monkeys at that age. Japan is done for.”
“So let us have the women your age if you don’t want them. Make it legal already.”
“But aren’t the virginity rates of high schoolers still lower than ever?”
“Women are filthy inside and out, so it’s no surprise.”
“It’s a hassle dating people. Onanism is easy.”
“I heard they were all doing it at that age. I guess only the girls are getting any action then…”
“They arrest people for doing it with 16 and 17-year-olds, yet these idiots are saying we face a catastrophic decline in birth rates?”
“Even a plain girl looks enticing at 18. If you arrest everyone older who has sex with them it’s not really surprising you get ruined birth rates.”
“If you continuously hammer elementary schoolers and up with horror tales of abortions, STDs and AIDS, it’s obvious they will view sex with revulsion when they mature.”
“I think the real issue is that the ideal partners both men and women seek have been continuously getting more and more unrealistic as the years progress.”
“Banning sex from TV and putting mosaics on everything can’t have helped.”
“Now they can get uncensored porn off the Internet, so who needs the real thing.”
“I’ve done 3 girls as a 19-year-old student. But it’s such a hassle. You old guys can have my sex quota.”
“A lot of young people are overly fastidious when it comes to personal cleanliness. You should just dump those ideas and let nature take its course.”
“Having a shower before sex, another one after. It’s too much hassle.”
“Blame the Bubble generation. Watching your parents greedily cheating and whoring is anough to put anyone off sex.”
“It’s not about people not wanting sex. Everyone wants it. It’s that to get to have sex, the amount of effort and money required have become insane.”
“There are too many good eroge these days.”
“It’s all a lie, they are just embarrassed.”
“If you watch an AV you really wouldn’t want to do it.”
“What do you expect, if you arrest every guy who has sex with a girl.”
“If ero is bad and sex is viewed as wicked, as they increasingly seem to be, it’s no surprise you see lowered interest in them.”
“Onaholes feel too good. It feels better doing one of them whilst being embraced by a woman than it does actually doing the woman, seriously!”
“2D + onahole > 3D sex. Hurry up and make a machine so we can have sex with 2D girls.”









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To be honest, looking at everything I know about Japanese women by now I would stay clear of them. They're absolutely not desirable for many many many many reasons. I really pity the Japanese guys for having to put up with them. It's no wonder so many of them are falling for 2D characters.
'Everything I know about japanese woman'.
which, let me guess, you learned from skewed statistics on this site.
I bet you don't actually know a single flesh and blood japanese woman. I know several, and they're all great girls. But they're not interested in 3D men, because 3D men are usually assholes. SNAP! It works both ways.
I lived in Japan. (I'm not the OP.) And I can definitely say I agree with his statements.
Obviously this won't apply to all Japanese women, but the culture of women over there isn't something I wanted to be a part of.
11:41 How does one give facts about life experience?
Where the fuck is your facts?
"All men are assholes!" ...or depressed and blah blah blah.
Dating is pretty sad scene nowadays. I blame feminists.
There is nothing weaker than a man who whines about feminists. Be a good man, take your power back, and shut up. Whining only gives them more fuel.
yep of course its because of the feminists they made women more important then man obviously .
Forget knowing Japanese women... I bet you don't know ANY women.
This is how a society kills itself - it's so uptight and money-focused that people actively stop trying to get together... The freeters and parasite singles should just realize they are never going to have much money, and it's more fun to be having sex with each other now than it is waiting for the magical pile of cash to appear.
There is no lack of desire, but with the expectation that men will provide for women (dead in reality in this economy), it's not hard to see why men turn away. But it is pathetic that the women also don't consider their position...
It's like the Japanese nation is one big anime club - a bunch of sexually repressed people too crazy and socially akward to realize they could just have sex with each other.
I think this is correct
The obsession with money mirrors the attitude of social conformity in Japan, since money is itself a form common to the millions.
Fortunately the solution is as easy as ignoring the social pressures and following your instincts. There is hope.
so first we demonize sex then we want people to have more, wtf is wrong with government and people.
It's a neverending battle between our genetics and our "morals"
Once you realize, that you dont have to have sex or a girlfriend in order to live a happy life, that you can really do anything you want, that is true freedom.
People might call that egoistical.
And about that declining birth rate ? Just set retirement age to 90 and legal age to 16 - problem solved.
Women realized this years ago. It's just men who cling to the idea that they are nothing if they don't have sex.
You see it here all the time with people talking big and over-exaggerating whenever they see a hot girl so everyone will believe they are straight or sexually active or into women. We get it, you're attracted to women. Now go live your life.
Japan is as lonely as I am! Hooray!
I would tend to agree, however personally I feel like living a happy life would sometimes feel fairly pointless without someone to share it with. Some people need companionship, which can make life difficult at times.
As far as the declining birth rate goes, isn't japan's population super high with regard to the total amount of land they have? so it seems like it wouldnt be such a bad thing for the birth rate to slow down for a while
No, declining birthrate means that one this generation pass onto retirement age, there would be significantly less workforce in the following generation, which means the burden of society would be harder on those young people.
Too bad everyone loves Ponzi schemes and pushing debt, a polluted environment, resource shortages, economic problems, and generally anything bad onto future generations, at least if they're not going to have to endure it themselves by being alive when the shit hits the fan. And of course old people dominate politics, especially in Japan, ensuring that such problems persist.
A small decline would be fine over time. The problem is this sharp decline and not enough people to run the country as effectively.
Some people need compainship, some don't.
Western society pressures you into having sex and marry someone even when you don't want it.
Every side has its own problems.
its 16 in Canada and wee have the same problem
Some people don' t even consider it a problem though lol
Well, I'm 29 in dec and I'm still a virgin...the problem is the girls I'm interest in aren't interested in me....and the girls that are interested in me I'm not interested in them....and I'm not attracted to purely physical aspects, I love women that I can hold a scientific discussion with..sigh...I think I'm screwed because I'm a medical scientist..nerd..and average looking..sigh..
You're not screwed, you're playing it smart.
Too many guys fall right into women's hands and fall for their games, giving women all the power over them.
The fact that you demand that a girl can hold a conversation will drive the gold-diggers, whores, and lazy ass bitches away from you.
This man speaks the truth.
Amen brother (or sister). You don't know how many friends I've lost because they fell into a black hole and vanished when they got married. Wifey won't let them go out and play at all unless it's with HER.
That's very true. There has to be a common ground SOMEWHERE where you two can see eye-to-eye... and not being able to hold a mutual conversation pertaining to each others' interests is definitely not a good sign.
Sadly the reason so many girls suck these days is because men made them that way. Men want so desperately to get laid that they will bend over backwards for any woman who even hints that they might have sex with them. Or hell, even if they are attractive enough.
If more men would have higher standards about who they gave their time and attention to, girls would have to step it up.
Imagine the look on some attention whoring tease's face when you pass her buy for the more conservative girl who can actually hold a conversation. I've seen it, and it's always priceless.
It works both ways.
Men's short term goals (desire for easy sex) can be incompatible with their long term. (Marriage to a virtuous woman.)
Women's short term goals - and indeed, attractions - are basically flings with socially dominant or high status men, regardless of commitment or emotional availability. Their short term behavior doesn't encourage the right qualities in the opposite sex either.
I think that's a valid explanation.
It's just that people treat dating scene as a 'game' too much. It's taken way too lightly and while guys may think it might actually benefit them, they don't because the ultimate choice is left to the girls.
It's funny, because treating it all like some game kind of puts a serious twist to it all, in that it's something that is hard to win or that there's a specific formula to succeeding.
Just be zen and let attraction take place naturally and just do whatever to find someone. Maybe ignore the idiotic social norms (at least barring from barbarism or total inappropriateness) and try to enjoy life and make a progress.
I won't mince any words, the Internet and all the hyperconnectivity of modern society is partially to blame. It makes our paranoia go ever deeper and most people probably can't handle it as well as they may say they do. I'd imagine that if one wanted to act upon an attraction before the Internet, people would do the sensible thing and actually reach out to a person they like by meeting, dating or using telephones. The net and all the ways we keep pondering and exploring ways to communicate, it confuses most people.
Don't give in. Just one more year until you become a wizard!
I second this comment! 29 is ...so close
You don't need to marry the girl girl to fuck her. Stop being so damn picky and just fuck them, interest be damned. Pussy is pussy.
~~~
Scientific American has a dating service.
Cavet Emptor.
Yeah, what Anon 06:48 said. Also, all parents want their girls to marry doctors or lawyers, so you'll never run out of demands.
Well, I would suggest striking conversations with young girls from medical schools. Some of them ought to be actually interested in what they're studying, and you'll also have the advantage of an older senpai ;)
See, this is a problem. You are not supposed to have scientific discussions with your girlfriend. You don't have to marry every woman you have sex with either.
You're a moron with no reading comprehension.
Well I'm almost 24. Virgin, tall, slim, smart and pretty good looking, I actually feel sorry for all these girls obviously feeling nervous aside of me or thinking I want to socialize with them whenever I give them a fake smile.
My tastes are definitely heterosexual yet I'm not interested in women. I'm kinda fucked up I know but I enjoy life that way, I pushed the notion of individualism a bit too far I think though.
Maybe you just want to get your life together and are waiting for the right girl so you don't have to waste precious time with some skank?
Most girls like to think we're all into fucking and chucking so they have an excuse to talk bad about us, but tons of guys don't want to fuck anything that moves and are looking for someone we actually care about.
Why waste your time with a gold-digger, skank, or someone you don't connect with? And I hate casual sex. Bitch I don't know where you've been.
Yes, and while you're waiting and getting your life together I'll keep your "right girl" entertained.
If she's fucking around with you she's a skank and wouldn't be the right girl.
Reading comprehension is your friend.
Oh look, another example of a guy who thinks it makes him look badass and mature for having sex, just like people have been doing for centuries.
Wow that's so new and unique. You must be so proud of yourself for discovering this. I mean, it's not like anyone else has ever done this.
The word is "narcissism".
But I'm too narcissistic to believe that.
nearly 2/3 of females are liars! (and sluts)
And half of the rest finds a man for life easily
By half of the rest you mean half of the 1/3
"tall, slim, smart, pretty good looking"
How scrawny nerds describe their appearance online.
You're telling me, I work in retail to pay ''fur teh skools right nao.'' I'm TRAINED to give fake smiles daily :P
Maybe you're actually a closet asexual.
Asexuals are so lucky - They don't have to worry about this stuff.
I-it's not like I'm really interested in s-sex or anything!
It seem like being virgin is worst than murder these days.
I mean what is wrong with being virgin?
The government is scared of having too many Harry Potters in their country.
Wrong. They should fear too many Dumbledores and Voldemorts.
Yes they don't want too many "you-know-who" going around.
and the ones that have sex are the muggles
There is nothing wrong with being a virgin.
For some reason guys view it as some sort of triumph when they have sex, which is why so many of us girls look at them like they're morons. Great, you had sex, so what? Tomorrow you'll wake up and still be the same person you always were, except you'll walk around thinking you're badass for doing what humans have been doing for centuries.
If you're masculine/cool/strong/desirable then you'll be that whether or not you had sex. If you're some weak/unintelligent/boring/loser you'll be that whether or not you had sex.
I wouldn't say that.
Men who are more comfortable around women are far more likely to learn how to properly flirt with them. If they had mental insecurities which are alleviated by having sex, then yes, those men will become more attractive to girls as they learn the "tricks of the trade".
Being the traditionally "passive" gender, it may be difficult for you to see it, but men are often under a lot of pressure when dating. It's not just a potentially social awkward situation we are facing when we approach a women, but also our pride as men (will she reject us) and our sense of value as people (how will she reject us). That we have to deal with it as kids (=mentally immature as opposed to actual age) doesn't help the matter either.
I know girls don't have it easy either, but the pressure we face when dealing with the opposite sex is entirely different.
I can understand and respect the efforts that go into getting a girl to pay attention to you, but it doesn't make it any less pathetic and unattractive when guys act like sex is some extreme achievement.
RELATIONSHIPS take effort. To get that to work is an achievement. But a girl can decide to have SEX with you if you're attractive enough and then move on and not give you another thought ever again. So acting like sex is some highlight of your life is a bit ridiculous.
Everyone does it, it's nothing new, you're not new and cool for doing it. A lot of guys don't get this.
So very true, but the badassery-ness comes from the biological switch that you've done your duty at procreating, even if no actual children are born. It's fulfilling your purpose in life and now that you've finished your homework you can prance around.
I agree with you about it being a biological switch, but in the end it makes those guys look extremely unattractive.
It makes those guys look pathetic, like some guy who thinks he's badass for finally finding out the sky is blue when people have already been there, done that, for centuries.
There's one tiny little fact about sex. It's fun. And pleasure. People like you tend to forget it.
Guys think its kind of a "triumph" because they had you and used you like the meat puppet you are. And zhe fact that you don't get that is why guys rightfully think you're just a bunch of morons...
That and that in the end you always go down... like the little bitches you are...
^_^
This doesn't make any sense. You can't "use" someone for sex if it's a mutual act of satisfaction.
If you think you can use a woman for sex clearly the feminists have won you over and gotten into your brain.
He doesn't even realize he's a feminazi propaganda lover.
PirateKing must be a trolling female. No straight male actually talks like that.
Feminists made up the whole "men use women for sex" thing so they could win more court cases for false charges against men.
@1:39
Yep.The feminazis have claimed another victim.
Except in the cases of rape, men have always known that sex is mutual and that you can't use a woman for it.
The moment people (usually angry women) started to believe that men could, feminists could continue pushing the agenda that men are users and should be treated like shit, while women are always innocent and never asked for the completely mutual act.
Shit like this is why we have so many false rape charges against men, and why women get away with it.
(Damn thing isn't showing my comment so sorry if it double posts).
-Ethan
@1:39
Yep.The feminazis have claimed another victim.
Except in the cases of rape, men have always known that sex is mutual and that you can't use a woman for it.
The moment people (usually angry women) started to believe that men could, feminists could continue pushing the agenda that men are users and should be treated like shit, while women are always innocent and never asked for the completely mutual act.
Shit like this is why we have so many false rape charges against men, and why women get away with it.
PirateKing thinks like a butthurt feminist instead of thinking like a man. This troll couldn't be a greater fail if he tried...
People view wizards with suspicion.
Pedobear sounds a tad friendlier with that statement.
Christians burned witches in earlier ages.
But that thing's out. Today we hunt wizards. All the cool kids does it.
People do it today in Africa anyway. I'm a hardcore atheist who despises religion for it's effects but even I can see that Christianity has nothing to do with people in an ignorant age being ignorant.
For reference: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1544-witchcraft-and-the-nigerian-court-system.html
you're only a wizard if you're a 30yo virgin
@Dark
They say this is why men and women who sleep around have more mental or physical issues, because they share their qi with too many people and have too much mixed up energy.
Actually from my experience, the Chinese supersition comes from the true fact that by ejaculating, you're literally giving your life force away.
Basically, mana drain.
So to actually become a wizard, you need to abstain from masturbation as well (there really isn't that much difference between a comfortable hand and a woman).
I can pretty much confirm this to be the case as well; after 4-6 days of abstinence your concentration increases, along with both mental and physical vitality. It is because what could have been used to make other people remains within yourself.
I guess that would be the main reason why you don't see people around casting fireballs anymore like back in the days, eh. :/
I never met a wizard who could keeps his hands off his wand.
I used to be a wizard like you ...then I took an arrow to the knee
Over 30 = Magician
Over 40 = Sage
Over 50 = Legend
There was an entire Seinfeld episode devoted to this, where George became smarter from abstaining and Elaine became dumber. One of the best of the series.
Question: If you only had petting, can you still become wizard?
@Darkrockslizer
I will go cast some fireballs wright away in Dark Messiah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6i7dByBIIQ
I'm gonna be the archmage of the wizards ohohoho
I lost my chance to become a wizard at 13, if just had known back then! :(
If you are a virgin you are a loser and if you have sex you get thrown into jail. Solution?
Get a Waifu, Lose your 2D Virginity = Problems solved!
Yes so you still don't get much sex and when you do there are strings attach to it. F that. Single and loving it.
Oh yeah my money is all mine.
I'm down with that.
Except now days even 2D sex can get you arrested. Drawings have rights too! (Can we vote as proxy for them?)
Exactly @Killjoy616, I mean I had no idea of all I was gonna buy this year for Christmas, but I sure as hell planned ahead for it and saved up for it:
Uncharted 3 Collectors Edition: 100 dollars
Catherine "Love is Over" Edition: 80 dollars (lol fitting name XD)
Atelier Totori Limited Edition off the NIS website: 60 dollars
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Bundle W/ Wii Mote Plus and Official Prima guide w/ Bonus Surface World Cloth Map: 100 Dollars
PLUS
Ben-Hur 50th Anniversary Blu-Ray Edition set: 70 dollars, because I like my chariot races in glorious 1080p oh yeah! :P
Total 410 dollars + taxes.
Cons:No girlfriend, meh, so what.
Pros: All of these goodies go to whom? To me my friends, To-Fucking-Me.
If the saying goes "I didn't even blink an eye when I spent that much money on my girl" Then this is the NEW saying we should all be adopting:
I rather blink ONE eye when I drop 400 bucks on myself and not worry about breakin the bank than having BOTH eyes twitch like a crack addict without his daily fix when I spend HALF that amount on a bitch who's only daily chore in life is giving me nothing but hassles.
You can have sex and not go to jail. Unless, of course, you're a rapist, a pedo, or into barnyard animals.
Don't get caught.
Seek help in 2D
People view it as a "crime" against youth.
The only crime is the way Japanese handle sex.
Guys who lose their virginity just to lose it have already handed over their balls and their control to women.
If there is one thing I'd tell young guys it would be to stop worrying girls and start worrying about getting their shit together. After all, in the end, girls won't give a damn when you lost your virginity, but they will care if you have your life together (especially in Japan.)
Most guys use sex as something to brag to other guys with. Why are you trying to impress them? Are you a fag? No? Okay then go do something to impress the women.
It's called talking shit. Random anonymous people from Japan think they know better. Society is the one causing these changes (or maybe its the water too?). Doesn't matter. We should live with these people because we're supposed to be in an age of mutual respect. The internet is full of trash talkers in all countries though. Artefact, does his best to make sure we see the trash talk from 2ch. After all if 4chan /b/ is trash and this is all based on 2ch...
Is the research article itself taking some sort of negative bias too or just the random online people from Japan? Whatever the cause it's no one groups fault and besides you'd have to find a "fault" first anyway.
Alot of people don't want to have sex at 16-19. GOOD. Less teenage pregnancies in general. Education, seems to work. Who would've thought?
Call me GOD then, since I already passed 40yo w/o that crap!
No, your a sage, didn't you see the list
girls like old mens because they have money. Girls like money.
This is just something men like to tell themselves because they want to believe they'll eventually be successful and that women will eventually be all over them even though no one wants them at the moment. It's all bullshit.
Women value youth also. Younger men are more attractive, sexier, stronger, and last longer in bed. No girl wants some balding, wrinkling, old man. If she does get with a man like that, she's waiting for him to die. But if she has a chance with a younger rich guy, that's the obvious decision.
Seriously guys it's common sense. Who the fuck would want some old dude?
Another danger with this thinking is that it will almost always NEVER happen. You can always say "one day I'll be rich" or "one day women will like me." You're really just fooling yourself. It's good to look ahead, but a lot of men build themselves up for a future that probably won't happen.
The best you can do is try to be successful and improve the person you are RIGHT NOW. Or before you know it you'll look back and see nothing but wasted time.
When I was in high school, one of my classmates was dating a guy in the late 30s. I'm not saying she is the rule, but girls like that do exist.
What a stupid comment. Of course there are exceptions to the rule. But the majority of women want YOUNG men.
Depends. Men in Asia are traditionally the ones who makes money for the family, so parents would want their daughters to have a husband who's financially capable. That's what they usually tell the girls, instead of encouraging them to search for their own careers. Heck, some parents even discourage such thing.
The girls grow up believing in things like that, so that's what they would expect from their husbands. Those who do get married tend to teach their daughters the same thing their mothers taught them, and here we are.
I don't know what country you're talking about, but it isn't Japan. Japan is all about the young men also. We always hear about the female idol worship, but the male idol worship over there is just as hazardous, if not more. The men work just as hard to look young, and they do get outdated quickly.
Now if you're talking about China, I might be inclined to agree. I've had experience with both and the status and money seeking women were actually worse from China (and Japan was bad enough!)
Hey don't make fun of the balding! ;_; I'm 19 and I'm balding..
d00d and I thought I was bad going bald mid-20s lol
That's exactly right! Las Vegas is proof of your point.
You been watching the Thunder from Down Under bro?
Or girls like older men because they are more sexy than those virgins writing on [insert 4chan-ish site here] all night.
Money doesn't mean everything. It's a turn-on, but not necessary.
Women generally like men a little older than them, but saying women like "older men" is a myth. Youth is valued just as much in women. Men who say otherwise need to stop asking other men what women like.
@Anon03:12 Hue Hefner is living proof of your comment!