Japanese girls who bathe with their fathers for longer are much more inclined to love them in later life, surveys suggest.
The survey quizzed Japanese on their bathing habits, and its findings regarding “papafuro” (“papa bath”) girls attracted particular attention.
Of those women who reported bathing with their father regularly as a child, 71.9% reported they “love their father,” as opposed to only 48.7% of those who never bathed with their father.
Children (of either sex) who reported bathing with their father until they were older also apparently enjoyed more involved relationships with their fathers – 44.2% of those who bathed with their father from ages 9 to 15 sought work related advice from their father in later life, as opposed to only 27.9% of those who only bathed until age 8 or less.
It is common for Japanese fathers to bathe with their adolescent daughters, although attitudes vary from those who consider it perfectly natural to those who think it a bit creepy – not least the misanthropic legions of 2ch:
“Westerners: ‘This is child abuse!'”
“One of my colleagues kept bathing with her father until she left high school. Honestly, I thought that was a bit creepy.”
“Bathe alone if you’re in elementary school!”
“At 15 I think it would be more of a problem for papa…”
“Papafuro… who makes up these phrases!?”
“I hear there are women in their twenties who still share toothbrushes with their fathers and families. Really it depends on the family.”
“There are a lot of people who are dependent on their fathers around, but you don’t hear nearly as much fuss about it as with those dependent on their mothers. Honestly, both are just as creepy.”
“If you somehow got an erection it would be extremely problematic so I’d never do it.”
“How would you explain that away?”
“So how old is too old for papafuro?”
“Generelly you’d stop once they started growing hair?”
“7’s the limit!”
“I bathed with my father until 13. I love and respect him.”
“I bathed with him until year 5 of elementary school I stopped when my hair and breasts started to grow, but I still bathe with mother even now.”
“My daughter refused to bathe with me starting at age 4 so I have no problems there…”
“You’d be arrested for doing it at any age in the USA. Cultural differences are scary stuff.”
“Tell a yank and you’d probably get beaten up.”
“Americans would just treat you as a pedophile and lock you up. I don’t know about other countries though.”
“My daughter is in the first year of middle school, we bathe together and share a bed. But she’s annoyed by lifting her skirt in the living room – you cannot understand the female mind.”
“Our daughter always picks papa when offered a choice between bathing with mama or papa… but she’s only 3.”
“Are there even any men out there who would be turned on by the sight of their own flesh and blood naked though?”
“This is just promoting incest and child abuse!”
“You lot would be grossed out by bathing with your mothers though, right?”
well, I guess it’s depend on their culture…
like tonari wa totoro, they still take a bath with their father
I love Japan more than any country. But I am going to view this the westerner side.
People claim that is apart of Japanese culture, but what if that culture has child “lover” undertone? I mean simple possession of Kiddy porn is still legal, the Lolicon industry is BOOMING and they constantly sexualize their child idols. And now they expect people to believe they aren’t bathing with their child just to see them nude or do something worse? WHAT LEVEL OF GODDAMN INSANITY ARE YOU AT?! You put 2 and 2 together and if you still don’t think it’s odd..well, you are full of shit.
Well, seems like I will have to test this theory myself with my daughter in the future. ; )
Come on! Any sort of contact with your child would create a better bond between father and daughter. Chances are this is the only time they get with their kids when they’re not at work or at meal times…
That’ll land you in jail in most other countries. It sounds like a theme for a Maxxx Hardcore flick, that dirty old bastard.
reminds me of a hentai anime called Tripple Ecchi Vol.3
it’s the thought that counts
WHAT?!?
That a simple deadly word without thinking!!!
Wow at some comments…
People who says this simple act would promote incest by itselft… they simply can’t be fathers themselves.
Please, don’t be so “all knowing” if you don’t know how feels a parent about their children.
I think the Japanese need to learn about hugs.
I bathed with my father and male cousin until I was five. My sister until I was eleven. I see my mother and sister without cloths often. I am not uncomfortable being unclothed in front of any of those people, except my stepfather because he’d rather not see it. I bathe with my son, and he is four. My entire family grew up in a what used to be a small fishing village. It is a normal thing that many families still do. I’m sure I used to be quite common in all parts of the world. I have always completely understood the differences in male and female anatomy. I think it was nice to learn as I grew how different female bodies can look from each other, and what to expect. If the first thing that crosses your mind when you hear about families bathing is pedophilia, who is real creep? It’s good to be concerned for a child’s safety, but lets not be rude just because it isn’t something everybody can agree with.
If you can be nude in front of anyone, shouldn’t it be your own offspring? I mean… You were born without cloths and your parents washed you. When does it get weird, and why? Because other people/your parents say it isn’t right? Because you became uncomfortable? It got weird for me because nearly an entire classroom of six year old children thought it was disgusting. Obviously at that age they got the idea from someone else…
Lol, In finland we go to Sauna with our parents no matter the age or gender.
oh shit, this is, in my culture, i don’t think this is appropriate
So, umm, just wondering…
How in the hell do they confirm this kind of stuff? Do they, like, take a hundred japanese father-daughter pairs, put them in a bathtub, and study them for a decade or so? I don’t get these surveys…
I think it’s ok as long as the child is still considered a “child”. If they are mature enough to know what being horny is, then it’s time to stop.
I disagree. It’s only weird when somebody makes it weird, or starts to feel weird.
โMy daughter is in the first year of middle school, we bathe together and share a bed. But sheโs annoyed by lifting her skirt in the living room โ you cannot understand the female mind.โ
Uh, no, I think *you* don’t understand her mind at all, “daddy”. Men like that should not be fathers.
This is really nothing out of ordinary in Asia. I honestly don’t get why it might offend westerners.
There’s nothing wrong with skin-ship. I wouldn’t do it with my daughter passed the age of 7 though. It is more for her sake than mine, I’m sure she wouldn’t want to see my wrinkly ass more than she has to.
All the people who comment that this is wrong, are the people who are so horny all the time, that they know they’d pop a boner bathing with their hawt teen daughter(s).
I know ’cause I sure as hell wouldn’t trust my horny self not to pop a boner.
uh no, I’m from Romania and I bathed with my mother since I was about 7 year old. Thing is.. you shouldn’t remember those times, well I still remember seeing my mom naked X_X
I think its funny that here in the US freak out when they hear things like this and say that it should never happen at any age. Its practically getting to be such a balancing act between ok and not. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some that think once the kid is pushed out and able to crawl that they are on their own for fear of being considered pedophiles in some way.
Ummm i bathe with my dad till i was 16 i already had breasts and hair sooo umm
You’re dad was getting hard. Just though you should know.
Thanks for that, but ummm, I knew that since I was the one giving him a soapy handjob…
you are a guy, arent you? -.-
I guess in some cases it could be that a family can’t afford their water bill if they all bathe individually so they save money by bathing together.
You obviously live with your parents.
Electricity is much more expensive than hot water. And the Japanese bathing culture also uses the same water in any case. They’re just showering before they take a bath.
I wonder what attitudes towards this sort of thing were a hundred years ago, or a thousand years ago?
^_^ Exactly! If I had an account I’d click the plus square.
No wonder Japan is the ‘Father” of incest manga and anime literature.
Wild Tiger was RIGHT.
Be realistic, it’s just sick!…
Most people whom like anime would be turned on though, we’re pretty much perverts, I wouldn’t dare to do such thing, for real I mean!… o_O
actually white people do this too, but as a asian….i havent….at least i forgot…i think?
“Bathing together is a such a non-sexual and normal thing for us”
Anyone seen anime lately? Not sure that an anime exists in the past 6 years that didn’t include a bathing scene that turned out sexual somehow. Girls grabbing boobs, guys getting aroused when girls wash them, slips and falls onto naked bodies….Japan, you are lying to yourself. We all know you just want to bath with your naked daughters you creepy otaku.
THIS x 1,000,000,000
I LOVE MY DAD !!!
Yeah, I hate my father because we didn’t bathe together. Seriously who comes up with this in Japan? I think the biggest problem between father and daughter is the father isn’t generally concerned about her future. It’s all about the man she can get so she will be something to society. They usually talk to their daughters as lowly and criticize their weight or skin. If fathers are worried about their daughters appreciating them when they are older then how about focusing on having happy little girls and giving them a childhood as long as possible.
I think cause and effect are flipped. ids who don’t want to bathe with their father as a kid tend to still have negative feelings as an adult. Likewise, kids who cling to their fathers tend to remain close.
If it’s just bathing, okay. More than that… hum. No, thanks.
If I have a daughter, I would train her to become Androphobic and a powerful puncher against men like the manga characters from Working! and MM!.
Reality
Me, my sister (1 year younger than me), and my cousin (5 years younger than me) bathed together since we were young until we reach high school.
I bathed with my mother until high school.
I slept with my sister, mother, and cousins in one room up until college.
Result
I dislike bathing/sharing a room with any guy even I’m a guy myself.
I love young little girls so much that I even spend a lot for them.
LOL:
โYouโd be arrested for doing it at any age in the USA. Cultural differences are scary stuff.โ
True, but that’s what makes the world interesting.
I am aroused.
American bathing tubs are not built to hold more than one person, thus family (or even two people) bathing is not possible based on that alone, it’s not just based on “morality” or “culture differences”. Not everyone in America is alike. There is a common social action, just because there is routine.
((โWesterners: โThis is child abuse!โโ))
If you are forcing or physically abusing a child to do something they themselves are uncomfortable doing, then yes, that would be abusive.
((โYouโd be arrested for doing it at any age in the USA. Cultural differences are scary stuff.โ))
Incorrect
Bathing with or washing your child is not an offense. You have no idea how many advice columns and speakers try to explain not to leave your child in a bath tub full of water.
((โAmericans would just treat you as a pedophile and lock you up. I donโt know about other countries though.โ))
Incorrect
If your bathing a child (or anyone for that matter) for perverted reason to satisfy yourself, then that would be pedophilia.
>If you are forcing or physically abusing a child to do something they themselves are uncomfortable doing, then yes, that would be abusive.
So it’s abusive to be a parent and groom your kid. You’re an idiot.
You have reading comprehension problems. Read what he said again. He said if the child is being forced into something they are uncomfortable doing, then it is abuse.
I like how the asian readers here and 2ch commenter assume white american will be up in arm about this. We care not… now move along and stop being paranoid of what we think.
What the hell is Nancy Grace doing here?
Making you look like a dumbfuck, that’s what.
The only issue is that, as always, it only takes one dumbass to give this whole practice a bad name. One parent does something to their kid and all who do it are labeled as incestuous pedophiles.
>it only takes one dumbass to give this whole practice a bad name
You mean more than one idiot. It always needs at least two. Maybe even three. You are included, dumbass. One for generalizing you see?
Uhm… Why counter that..? You are included as well, dumb ass, for taking it far to literally.
Don’t mind my swollen member, it’s just the hot water. now let me wash your back.
i bath with my father and i have 21, i start bath with him when i was 13. And im a man
Good story bro
I bathed with my mother until I was about 12, and still occasionally go to Bath houses with my father. It really depends on the environment, and how you view nudity. I know around here it is viewed as normal to bathe with elders, at least to a certain degree.
This just reminded me about Kobushi Abiru, from Sayonara Zetsubou Senseie.
And here I thought this only happened in ero doujins
this is pretty stupid.
correlation does not equal causation.
isn’t it more likely that the kids who already like their fathers would be more open to bathing with him? while those who dislike him refuse to bathe with him at an earlier age?
rather then bathing causing you to like or dislike him more?
Also I’m Canadian not American ,but it doesn’t seem *too* strange to me, i bathed with my parents when i was young (up to about 4/5) our bathtubs are smaller then thier anyways, theres no way you could fit a 10 year old kid and an adult in my bathtub.
Sorry with the bad english.
It may be a good thing in private with young child or baby : as a father, sleep with a crybaby – 2 years old – don’t freak me out (parent’s duty : “no, there’s no dragon under your bed”) ; take a bath with my 2 year son ? No problem.
Take a bath in a south european country (around mediterranean sea) with your adolescent girl would like incest, pedophilia, child abuse. I’ll never do that.
It’s cultural : a “normal” french or spanish teenager don’t act like that with a father ; the mother may have a better place with menarche, puberty…
In Baltic countries (Norway/Finland/Sweden/Denmark/north Germany/Island), people may be more open on nudity or naturism, but i don’t think they’re exhibitionnist.
All fathers in Japan takes baths with their children ? Nope.
Tell that to these douchebags in here. They just love to pretend that this would only be unacceptable in America, and not in many other places as you are supporting.
Id be mortified if my father EVER asked to take a bath with me. ๐ Like I’d want to see his old wiener. Ew. You guys saying it is no big deal: if you have a daughter then ask her regardless of age. :] I dare you. See what the hell she says. I bet it’ll be no. And then she will call you a pervert.
You would probably be mortified if I asked you to eat some creepy looking insect even through many insects are very nutritious and healthy, if not especially tasty. You are not used to bathing with your family which is why you would find it weird and uncomfortable. That’s exactly the opposite of what the article talks about.
Geez, don’t go crushing the dreams of these lame pedos here. They have it rough with their frantic fapping to ahegao lolis.
Now watch them exercise their only bit of power and good heavens no – downvote your comment!
Bathing with your family/children is NOT incest!!!
I’m American and I can see this, I don’t know why others cannot. If you’re touching your children or vice versa for sexual pleasure then it’s incest! Is this so hard to understand? We’re all animals walking around with coverings. We’ve tabooed the natural state of our bodies to the point considering it evil to be naked. There are entire communities that live together, naked, and they’re not fucking their children. Nakedness is a state of being not a declaration of wanting to be fucked or looking for something to fuck. If we all washed together the world would be much better place to be in with less emphasis on how we look, removing those taboos that only hurt society, and a general raising of the level of acceptance of each other. We’re all humans: We live, we bathe, we die.
Sark
What are you bitching about? It was 2ch who assumed it was considered incest in the US, and most of the Americans here agree that if it’s a child then it isn’t incest while some people have various opinions (from all countries) about whether or not it is okay later in life.
Did you even read the comments or are you just bitching to bitch?
Existing in temperate climate is not what the natural state of our bodies is meant for. Clothing plays such a major part of our culture because we need it to survive.
[quote]There are entire communities that live together, naked, and they’re not fucking their children.[/quote]
There are many such tribal communities in Africa. I doubt you will find any in Siberia.
[quote]If we all washed together the world would be much better place to be in with less emphasis on how we look, removing those taboos that only hurt society, and a general raising of the level of acceptance of each other.[/quote]
If we didn’t fight each other over every single thing we could the world would still be a lush forest and humans would still live in caves.
It’s not entirely unfounded. I remember there being a British study which basically said that bathing with your child when they’re young will make them more comfortable with the idea of telling you their problems when they’re older, especially if those problems concern puberty and sex.
Although i’m pretty sure it doesn’t make you LOVE them more, just that you’d feel less awkward about talking about personal things.
Telling your child that they shouldn’t feel ashamed of their bodies will likely lead to the same results of bonding.
Various households have their own standards. Sometimes it works for others, sometimes it doesn’t. But one should never expect it to work for everyone.
You people are a bunch of idiots. First pedophilia only aplies to prepubescent childrens not 15yo… Second, seeing someone from your family naked doesnt qualify as incest. Third, by your retarded logic it would mean that any nudist families are incestuous pedophiles? Gotta love the prude westerners… Lol
As a Westerner, I’m conditioned to think that adults bathing with their children after they hit puberty= pedophilia. But I’m trying to look at this from a different culture’s perspective, and I can indeed see why this would create bonds between parents and children.
However, when I was growing up my parents never with me (I think once I was old enough to learn how to wash myself and my mom was sure I wasn’t going to drown she left me alone); yes, I don’t have a very close relationship with my mother- she’s kinda cold and I can’t remember the last time she told me she loved me or was proud of me. However, that just made me form a close relationship with my father (who’s personality is more like mine and every time I see him he mentions how proud of me he is)
Hey, maybe there’s something to this bathing with parents if it helps you form bonds with them…
after they hit puberty= pedophilia
You, Sir… are one of the biggest fucking morons on this site.
“…children after they hit puberty= pedophilia.”
nonsense
“As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
If a Parent sees nothing sexual in his pubescent Child (what should be the norm) where is the problem if they bath together or doing other non-sexual nudist things?
“As a Westerner, I’m conditioned to think that adults bathing with their children after they hit puberty= pedophilia”
That’s a common misconception, because pedophilia deals with childrem who are prepubescent (before puberty).
Sexual attraction to children 11โ14 year old is Hebephilia, and for 15-19 year olds it is Ephebophilia.
โYouโd be arrested for doing it at any age in the USA. Cultural differences are scary stuff.โ
Yeah the USA is shit wee all know that .
Wee all know in USA people can’t tell the difference between an apple and an orange
We do know the difference between proper English and the poor approximation of Pidgin crap you spout, you troglodyte.
We also know the difference between “wee” and “we”, dumbshit.
Guess what else? We know the difference between a fucktard and a dumbshit. Guess which one you fit under?
Stick your apple and orange up your loose anushole, you fuck.
I love Japanese culture. And I love it is starting to spread.
And I also like, that the US hate the competition. ๐
็งใฏๆฅๆฌใฎในใฉใณใฐใๅๅผทใใใใ
we are wee-wee
๐
look, everybody! an american teenager just discovered a dictionary! too bad there’s no brain left for it to improve, just sweet, sweet rage.
umad?
There are no words like “fucktard” and “dumbshit” in proper English…
@ Anon 07:34
Yes, because you serve as a good example of expanding your mental prowess with hentai, doujins, loli moe crap, and pedo shit. Oh, and it’s not rage, it’s disdain.
I don’t need a dictionary to trade words with Special Olympic fucks like you.
P.S.: I’m not a teenager! I’m a toddler with a prodigy level IQ!
You must come from fucking Avalon to speak so lowly of the nation with the greatest political and military power in the world.
LOL, you probably come from some pissant tiny fucking backyards country anyways. Like we give a shit about you peons.
Showing empty bravado doesn’t change the fact that nobody likes you.
And boy does that hurt our feelings sooooo much.
We’re too busy grinding our boot heels into your necks to care.
because having great army make you smart?
So China is a place with a Looooot of smart if not genius ppl … =)
Yes, China is sooo smart that it overflows with exploding chairs, garbage pillows, trash filled trains, and let’s not forget cold hearted dipshits that run over toddlers multiple times while passerbys try their hardest to ignore the bleeding dying children.
Every country has geniuses and idiots, moron. The difference is that China is overflowing with the latter. You are among them.
Besides, who said anything about intelligence? Read again, dipshit. It says P-O-L-I-T-I-C-A-L and M-I-L-I-T-A-R-Y power. Guess what, fuckface? China rips off US military technology every chance it gets.
Nobody talks about China here.
I bath forever alone
foreveralone.jpg
Same goes for sex for you, I’ll wager.
I remember reading an article that researched mothers who breast-fed their children even up until they were 10-12 years old. The research showed that the children who did this were more emotionally balanced and they had closer feelings for their mothers.
Combine this with bathing with father longer, and it kind of shows that modern parents “abandon” their children much sooner than they did in previous ages.
Ugh, flawed survey analysis. CORRELATION DOES NOT PROVE CAUSALITY… Srsly, it’s likely it’s not the act of bathing with your daughter but rather other factors in your relationship that permit you to bathe with your daughter that are affecting the love factor.
Nicely put Anonymous 02:19 18/11/2011
A father can bond with their daughter in any form.
Damn, I read the headline as “How to make love to your daughter”.
calm down, dont get a boner.
it normal for asian culture
It’s normal for all Asians to be pedophiles?
Thanks for the awfully generalized racist remark, dipshit.
is it normal that ur mind only thinks parents can’t bathe with their children without thinking of them sexually?
what the hell is wrong with this guy? xD He jelly he didn’t bath with his parents? ๐ฎ
Is it normal for you to be a racist fuck?
Hope my mom won’t read this or she might decide to spend my entire life bathing with her.
I think it has less to do with the bathing itself and more to do with the father who bathes with his daughter being more involved in his daughter’s life in general.
Is this in any way similar to our sauna culture?
I can go to sauna with my father and brothers and I’m 20.
Going with my mom or sisters would be quite a different story tho ๐
โIf you somehow got an erection it would be extremely problematic so Iโd never do it.โ
Did anyone else notice what these words reveals about the writer?
And same goes for a lot of the other reply’s.
If you were bathing with a young girl you could still get an erection without having sexual feelings for them, that’s just human physiology.
You fail at understanding what being a parent means. And thus, you also fail at life, and if you currently don’t fail at life then you will, later on…
โIf you somehow got an erection it would be extremely problematic so Iโd never do it.โ
I agree with that. When you’re sitting, you may have erection in any situation, without having sexual desire. I don’t understand how Papafuro deal with that…
We never do it in Europe, even when we are kids.
“Never do it in Europe”? Speak for yourself. If you didn’t do it, it doesn’t mean the rest of us didn’t do it. And what the hell is wrong with a bath? Are your minds really that corrupted by child abuse? Or are you just some random 12 year olds trying to talk big?
I didn’t bath with my mother or father but I did bath with my sister and brother until I was like 10.
This sounds like a bad case of correlation implies causation. It sounds like to me that fathers that bathe with their kids probbably also happen to be more family oriented/involved in their kids lives and therefore enjoy better relationships.
~~~
Media / Television can turn anything and everything into some kind of voyeuristic Perversion.
Stupid Ad Revenue, Screwing everything up. Cr@p!
Triti
That’s part of it, but there’s more to the causation than you think. Being at ease in such intimate circumstances cannot help but foster deep trust, and deep emotional bonding.
Sexual self-consciousness often begins a separation in parent / child relationships – especially that of father / daughter; their emotional bond is weakened.
It would make sense that the longer papafuro continues, the longer the emotional bond has to strengthen – especially important in the adolescent years. The result, then, is a deeper and stronger than average emotional bond.
Of course, any perving implodes the above hypothesis.
This x10
Though that’s really just the title, the summary acknowledges this.
Hmm…
I wonder if this applies to sisters as well.
Of course they made love to their fathers, theres no way he could keep his hands off of here after shes hot and covered in water oil, she infact becomes a different person in his mind. Also, this is very very old news, it was the main story item in Girl meets Girl with Hazamu’s dad from show 2 on pretty much.
my father always did my hair when i came out of the bath tube
and i was naked all the time until my hair was dry.
we never bathed together but when i see him (maybe 3 times a year) i only think about those stories, something in me is damaged since its really hard for me to get closer to males.
thinking about all this gives me a really weird feeling lol
That’s obviously your own fault. Naturalism usually leads to the exact opposite. I can tell you that, I know a lot of them.
Are you fucking serious, guy?
Her dad did something that made her feel uncomfortable and damaged her psyche by her own admission, and it’s HER fault?!
Dumbfucks like you are the reason why women feel trepidation about reporting rape or abuse, because they somehow think it is their fault, that they could have avoided it.
You fucking rape enabler. You can take your “naturalism” and stick it up your ass.
Dunno about parents, but I used to bathe/soak with my girlfriend; we’d relax and talk about stuff. It was nice.
well i dont think this is discusting or anything. kinda similar is that i usually went to sauna with whole family. nothing wrong with that. nowadays i go with my bro
So many beautiful stories in the comments.
LOL
Doesn’t surprise me at all. It’s sad that so many can’t separate nudity from eroticism. Some people just can’t see bathing the same way as sitting at the dinner table with your family.
My only dispute with bathing with your parents well after the age where you can bath alone is hygienic. Dunno how dirty everyone else got when they were kids, but I have no shortage of memories of very dirty bathwater. Adding another human worth of dirt into the mix can’t be good for your health.
In Japan, before they go in the bathwater they clean themselves, so in fact they are all clean when they get in.
In any civilized place actually, you shower before taking a bath …
You would be wrong then.
Then what’s the point of the bath?!
To relax, just like with the Greco-Romans.
only in japan
Before we say how pure holy and natural this is and admire the Japanese for it, and how Americans are disgusting for considering the possibility of child abuse…
Lets remember Japan is the creator of Lolicon, shotacon, toddlercon, loli hentai, incest manga, elementary girls selling their panties, 80% of their most successful industry anime is usually about schoolgirls typically with fanservice, “Cult Dentist & Wife Exorcise 13-Year-Old by Raping Her”, “80% Underage Schoolgirl Delivery Health Service Busted”, cosplay porn and ero cosplay of underaged characters, popularization of Lolita fashion, 2d ungeraged girlfriends and on pillows and sexy figurines, the inability to ask a school girl for directions xD, the reason most of you can’t look at little girls without a guilty conscience, ect ect and its all pretty normal there, underaged girls are like Gods in Japan…so..yeah.
Not that I’m hating, I still like Japan :] jus sayin’.
Well I can respect those things a hole lot better than:
A-bomb
Global abductions
Global terrorizing
Torture
Police attacks on peaceful demonstrators
Worldwide misinformation/propaganda.
False flag attacks
Fabricated evidence for war reasons
None of those are good for any people, adult or kids alike.
“A-bomb”
A lot more people would’ve died if the Japanese home islands had been subjected to a land invasion…
And that has what to do with the topic of how little girls are viewed? Try posting on a relevant topic.
^this
i agree!
um the things you mentioned happen all over the world in every country. only japan has grade schooler erotic visual novels and a Junior idols industry. so..yeah.
and I don’t think I would respect the science of military technology, underneath having sex with a 7 year old.
…but that’s just me.
if i had a daughter
You’d allow her to give me a blowjob right? ๐
i love bathing with my daughter
I love bathing with your daughter too.
She’s always been fond of bathing with fucking idiots.
Kind of agreed on that. Taylor is most likely some 10 yo kid… HOLD ON! What the hell is a kid doing here? You deserve a spanking!
@ Taylor 06:36
Lame. You have the comeback skills of a 3rd grader.
oh is that why you love bathing with her? ๐
โMy daughter is in the first year of middle school, we bathe together and share a bed. But sheโs annoyed by lifting her skirt in he living room โ you cannot understand the female mind.โ
A little daughter upskirt is never a bad thing!
Agreed.
Aside from that comment though, 2ch seems to be a bit prude lately. Loli + incest = the best of both worlds.
-grandmaisdead
As sankaku seems to get more and more popular it’s been even worse.
Would be impossible around here. The bathtub is just too small, even one person fits only barely in. With two kids it’s a different story, though and I remember bathing with siblings. No big deal.
I just remembered I used to bathe with my older brother…It feels so weird thinking about it now even if were were kids.
someone noticed? only 48,7% of girls like their fathers in japan!? wtf?
are they really that BAD parents?
reread and you will see that is not the case.
48.7% of a specific group
also, it’s love not like and certainly not “don’t hate”
HHH episode 3 pops into my mind immediately, along with 329432948329 h-doujins, heh….
i am ashamed to say i know what you mean
Honestly here, I don’t see the problem just bathing with them.
Do anything else could be a problem…but hell who am I to judge X3
hmm never bathed with mother or father lol but i did bath with my friend she seemed to like it though lol we did it till 13 :p grew up together :p though we kissed played with each other too :p bath time alone playing with water lol :p fond memories :p
@Anonymous 19:56 17/11/2011
That seems to be the common routine in America. Bath time is more common with a Sibling or Friend, rather than a parental moment.
Basicly…you played doctor in the tub. =P
Public preconception of activities is varied across different cultures and their different eras. It’s not just children affected, it could be, say, burglary concerns. Point is, some activities suffer after society ruins it for everyone in that age/area.
For example, wrestling dates back before humans as an instructional tool for raising young, yet the last couple of decades have made people uncomfortable watching men in tight clothing grapple. Even I’d feel awkward. A perfectly good sport, perhaps the FIRST “sport”, and we can’t enjoy it. Not because it changed, but because we did.
God, I’d love to get a comment on this from any western media.
And this:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/26/mother-loli-yuri-bikini-skinship/
It depends on the term of `bathing` as we know the Japanese bathe in a totally different way to most of us in the west, and they treat it more of a tradition than just cleaning themselves, a more spiritual way if you like. Not like lying in a tub full of bubbles reading the newspaper. lol
They smoke weed when bathing? That’s dangerous!
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Taylor can go shove his/her comment up Taylor’s ass.
*Your
You’re comment is bad, and you should feel bad.
@ Anon 03:15
I DO feel bad.
Pshshshs BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA snort ahAHAHAHAAHAHA
Fuck no I don’t!
Evidence it works? HHH ep 3.
“bathe with your daughter” and the first things came up to these people’s minds are pedophile & incest? Humanity surely has degraded a lot
The first thing that came to 2ch’s mind was pedophilia and incest. No one from the US actually commented on it until they said something. Are you that much of a sheep to think 2ch knows all about the US?
Incest or reverent respect… which one would you think is the definition of “love” in this story?
Given the OP picture it’s inevitable.
Yup, if you show an ugly father and daughter then no one would blink an eye. But show a loli then you get raging boner while reading this because you think of some weird ero game.
Agreed Lol. But also for the fact that SanCom put it here. They want us to think “incest” and we click the news. Even though its just some statistics. Lol
You have to understand that no westerners actually commented on this, merely their speculations of what one would say.
And Japan has some weird fucking speculations about….. anywhere that isn’t Japan.
In time they are going to discover the difference between male and female.If you have a hot horney daughter you need to stop sooner or you mighjt find yurself into Incest like the Japanese who do it daily I’m told.
lol yes I could see that happening it must suck to be a pervert with a hot daughter.
This is true.
I mean, i’m from the US and I bathed with parents and my siblings until I got into elementary school or so.
I don’t find anything wrong with bathing with a parent of the opposite sex.
OF course when you get older it’s a bit harder for men I assume because if you get a boner randomly.
How does one proceed from there?
/Also I’m a dude.
These are the first things that came up because of Japan’s history with incest topics.
Your English writing and grammar has degraded a lot as well.
I like how you speak of humanity in the 3rd person as if you were excluded. Oh wait, are we now excluding inbred English mangling troglodyte twatfaces? Nevermind, go right ahead.
You’re using words you don’t understand, yourself. You shouldn’t do that… it’s bad for your health… you’ll grow scales, matted fur and horns as well as develop a hoarse and deeply raspy voice. Commonly called “Trollitis”.
bahahahahaah.
That is all.
@ Ryuhouji 01:17
Actually, you keep responding in spite of the futility, so I’m more than happy. You obviously care enough to write comment after comment. The internet might be massive, but this site isn’t, so I’m sure I’ll eviscerate your lame pussy ass again soon.
One of the great things about being me… Your pathetic trolling doesn’t bother me in the slightest. There is nothing you can say that would anger me, because you are a fleeting existence on the massive thing called Internet. Very soon, I will forget about this, and only you will be sad.
Huh? Let’s see – matted fur, horns, hoarse and deeply raspy voice… OH I GET IT! You’re describing your sexual preferences!
The real humor is your pathetic stab at an insult. You are lame.
a fail troll is a fail
a dumb shit is dumb.
And unoriginal.
You feel better about yourself, after that comment, sir?
Yes thank you. I always feel better shitting on you disgusting fist humping fags.
if i had a daughter, i’d bathe with her until she turns 18 and leaves for college. i want her to love me lots. lol
Me too Me too , The only problem is if the Mother will be totally against it .
I remember a time when I was prob 5 that my mother was helping me shower. While I was just standing there being rinsed off, I was just swinging my arms randomly since I was bored. I hit my dick, then I continued to slap it back and forth which caused me to ask why it became hard. I didn’t stop slapping it while waiting for an answer and prob kept going until she put clothes on me lol. She stayed silent, and I left the bathroom with a boner equipped, like a boss.
Slap the salami
Morn Anon and its false stories. A male age 5 is physically INCAPABLE of getting an erection.
i pity your disease
Don’t mind them 1#Anon. Internet is full of trolls and retards, which consists mainly of juniors in puberty trying to become something they aren’t ๐
A lot of bards and storytelling round here.
You’d be suprosed to know I had orgasm at the age of 4
No, no, not really. I was expecting something stupid like that with that profile picture of yours..
bah i got an erection when i saw my family watching porn when i was 4 or 5 at that time o.O
Your family quality time sounds awesome.
Most guys watch porn for the first time with a bunch of other teen dudes, but your family says hell with that and makes it part of bonding!
“Hey kids, how bout we play a game of Monopoly or Jenga while your ma puts in this porno vid called Anal Creamfest 16?”
erection on a 36 month olf fetus
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Fetus_Penis_Erection.jpg
@ Anon 03:14
Your field of study wouldn’t happen to be Pedophilistic Philosophy would it? You must be the dean of that college.
“Do you just realize you went through the effort to google a wiki on fetus erections?
Man, you pedos go for younger and younger as time goes on, huh?”
Certain fields of study require you to know these kinds of trivia.
You mean 36 weeks?
Do you just realize you went through the effort to google a wiki on fetus erections?
Man, you pedos go for younger and younger as time goes on, huh?
that’s not true…
Due to TV/The Media this would be automatically suspect in the west.
I think this is deliberate…
How many women, backed up by the legal system, will at a drop of the hat then turn on their families and mates? This is the New World Order, they want us all apart, blowing in the wind, no culture save McCulture.
They probably see it quite like how we Finns see sauna, it’s not erotic thing (except if you are not used to it).
Normal public saunas are not generally mixed gender, but it’s not very suprising to see mixed gender public steam sauna (like at indoor swimming pools or gyms).
…GENERELLY
You even see this kind of thing in Totoro.
Contrary to popular (Western) belief, it’s not sexual, it’s not abuse, it’s family bonding… or as the Japanese call it ‘Skinship’.
Till the Edo era, the public bath was mixed bathing. Children were living naked. They did not need privacy because, The range of a community was very wide. These lifestyles founded here and there in the history in the world.
It is from Meiji Era that consciousness of privacy is made. In Japan, the act which takes a bath with a child is a custom. Probably, father who takes a bath with the grown-up daughter does not have evil intentions.
I am somewhat skeptical in this report.
A father’s standing is low in a home. A father is disliked by the adolescent daughter at almost all homes, and he is depressed.
This is common to the world.
I would suppose it has something to do with the Meiji Restoration and the fact that Japan wanted to open up to the world and adopt many Western values?
Or perhaps it had something to do with the fact that cultures just change as new ideas appear.
Like raising a puppy or kitten. You get a smile out of a child when you pat their head instead of a waggling tail.
But that would be fuckin’ adorable if they had a tail to wag.
UWAA~
Papa wa DAISUKI! “swing* *swing*
Nekomimi’s FTW?
Nekoshippo perhaps. Cat ears aren’t especially useful if you are trying to wag your tail.
Huh, I bathed with my father when I was young. For some reason I doubt that people around me did, but it’s not that uncommon, is it?
Incidentally, I don’t consider my relationship with him to be stellar. It’s only gone up from the shitter recently, so I don’t know.
I think this sort of thing would create a unique bond between a father and daughter.
not really . There was some research on incest in the japan and rates are rather high , especially between mothers and sons .
That’s not because of the bathing culture though.
that bond is called “incest”.
I agree.
ONLY IF YOU’RE AN INCESTOUS BASTARD… There’s nothing wrong with bathing with your kids.. It’s all innocent unless… That’s right, an incestous bastard.
It’s called skinship.
Lol at Anon. He’s got parent problems.
Sure, but outside of lame disgusting circles of otakudom, it’s called INCEST.
You fucking closet dwelling fist humpers.
Not at all, sharing everyday basic-needs experiences (grooming, bathing, spa related activities, cooking, etc) does strengthen bonds between people. It’s all about spending time together in relaxing or comfortable situations. I personally don’t see anything bad with bathing with your parents; the problem that some people have is that there are deviants out there who are crazy AND have offspring and might take advantage of them, and that’s where fucked up laws and witch-hunt thinking starts to get nosy.
to the anon who said that u.s. bathtubs aren’t made for two people.
you are a complete retard.
the bathtubs that the average japanese familly have are astronomically smaller than the normal sized tub in america, so your theory is nearly as idiotic as you are.
Those of you who seem to be implying that men can turn off sexual reactions to a womanly body just because it’s his daughter are either really stupid or really naive or both.
Even if a man doesn’t want to have sex with his daughter it is a natural physical reaction to get turned on by a young woman’s body. And regardless of intent that’s when things get inappropriate and they shouldn’t be bathing together. I doubt it will be good for a young woman’s psyche to know her dad gets a boner for her.
If it’s a child then it is FINE. Most Americans think it’s fine to bathe with your child. You’ll rarely find people in reality who disagree. The fact that all of you are thinking Americans find it incestuous because 2CH SAID SO are acting like ignorant, retarded sheep.
You won’t find many families embracing bathing together in the US, not because of nudity issues or pedophilia, but because the majority of bathtubs in the US aren’t made for it, and the majority of people in the US shower. Simple explanation that has nothing to do with pedophilia.
I don’t know why everyone is painting Japan as a country who would do this innocently. Everything we know about them says otherwise.
Well put. I wonder if Americans aren’t body/sex obsessed – they tend to think of everything in sexual terms.
Its one of those things it depends on the person. Most of America yes they are like that. Stupid kind of runs rampant over here.
@ Cuppatea
You are one dumb fucking twatface. Let’s just conveniently forget Japan’s incredibly “inventive” pornography industry and hentai culture, shall we? I mean, we can’t have logic stand in the way of your incredibly general statement about millions of Americans get in the way, can we?
Let’s also pay no mind to the fact that civilization has been obsessed with sex ever since the dawn of humanity. But only America is guilty of it – riiiight.
Dumbfuck.
LOL to right
In the eyes of us Americans, its mainly after age 5 that you’d have to let them bathe on their own. By then they should be able to wash themselves properly.
>But my biggest complaint about the comments is that people are assuming that the US is the one with the problem simply for not sharing a custom that other countries share.
Yes, YOU have the problem. Fucking YOU.
Those comments from 2ch do not even suggest you to adapt. They offer critic for your criminalization attempts. Huuuge difference.
“c’mon…. and u always comparing with US culture? where’s the other?”
………………..What?
c’mon…. and u always comparing with US culture? where’s the other?
@6:33
It’s not the bathing together that carries a stigma, it’s the ages implied. A teenage girl should not be bathing with her father. Regardless of whether or not the man in the bath is her father, he’s still a man, and seeing a womanly form will have inappropriate results.
If we’re talking about children, then I see absolutely no problem with it.
But my biggest complaint about the comments is that people are assuming that the US is the one with the problem simply for not sharing a custom that other countries share. And then if we don’t do it a certain way there are all sorts of negative issues associated with it when the reality is that children in the US are expected to be independent at a young age, AND that bathing is usually seen as a way of getting clean rather than relaxing. It doesn’t mean that everyone associates bathing together with something perverted.
@04:15 I agree that Americans don’t necessarily need to change their bathing habits (in fact there are many ways of bonding and skinship besides bathing), but from the general feeling I get from the comments is that it’s a shame that in USA sharing a bath or bathing at all carries a perverted stigma when it really shouldn’t since it’s part of a daily grooming routine.
Everyone is trying to say that the US should do it because other countries do it. Just accept that other countries are different and move on. If you have problems being close with your family then there is more going on than the fact that you don’t bathe together.
IN Russia and other countries where they got some absurdly cold winters, there are some traditions about taking hot baths togherter…and Im saying just father,mother,son, daugher here, im sayign the whole damn family: cousins,aunts, grandparents and such…in some small communities they fgo even farther…nothing sexual about…
In countries with advanced sauna culture (Finland, and… err… Finland) it is quite common for families to bathe together regardless of age. Relatives aren’t usually thought of as things to put yer cock in around ‘ere and thus it is a non-issue.
Yep, I’ve never bathed with either of my parents really. My mom just washed my hair and kept me from drowning till I could do it on my own.
only if said father has intercourse with his daughter, if they are just bathing then nothing is wrong
If my sweet daughter NEEDED sex and came on to me I would teach her everythinng she needs to know,and satisfy her every way she wanted or needed me. It happens all over the world. Why get so up tight about what two people who love each other want from each other?
@ TNinja: Big Mama’s House?
@ HouseLife
No worries, I upvoted it as well, should be +1.0 soon ๐
She was an awesome character and they gave her quite the awesome voice in the english version, was pleasantly surprised by a good turnout in the eng dub.
Can’t wait for season 2 in english, gotta add to my collection ๐
I bet all you anons who call incest are butthurt with jealousy that fathers get to view teen girls in their birthday suit.
Pedobear said I wish.I had daughters, I only have are sons.
“How would you explain that away?”
Me: “It’s my flashlight.”
Props for those who know where this line originates from.
@Yoshii Akira
Oh no way in hell you deserve a downvote for that awesomeness! Someone here is just plain stupid.
As for the topic at hand… really I do wish we had this type of thing in our culture again. I don’t have any research on the subject, but I wonder if, since our public baths seem to have had their origins in Greco-Roman times, and because our public baths were shut down as AIDS hubs a few decades ago, that public bathing has just been demoted to being synonymous with perversion for our culture.
If we re-introduced it now, our generation wouldn’t be able to see it as non-sexual. It would take us spearheading the effort to bring it back to make it a normal thing a couple generations from now. In the interim, there would probably be a lot of sexual issues and misunderstandings caused by the practice probably, since being nude around one another in the US rarely has any other context than sex anymore.
All I know is family bonding is something every culture needs more of, no matter how it’s achieved. I have yet to meet another person who can say they love their family without some kind of “but…” following the statement.
But Yoshii-kun, you refuse to bath / kiss or any skinship with Nee-san.
Hidoi desu Aki-kun, did you hate your Nee-san that much.
Nee-san will await something more interseting like
“How to make your brother love you …”
Its skinship, and it does improve the parent-child relationship, extending towards mothers as well.
It doesn’t just have to be in the bath but in other activities as well such as sports and recreational stuff. What’s important is that parents actually spend time with their children, which I think many kids these days aren’t getting enough at a younger age.
And
>”Make Daughter Love You”
More like have a closer bond with parents, since I already love my mom and dad.
Bathing at a young age with family members is no big deal. But up into your teens? Yeah, that father has some incestual thoughts.
Nah, it’s still incest.
You can dress it up anyway you want or justify it by adding frilly pedo defense mechanisms, but the fact remains – it’s WRRRRRROOOOONNGGGG.
it’ll be great if people like you never have a daughter, because the only thing which come into your mind about “bathing with daughter” is incest
I don’t see whats wrong with it
Agreed, there’s nothing wrong with bathing with your adolescent daughter. Although I would say teen is the cut off point. A father actively bathing with his 15 yr old daughter is a bit messed up…
For the 15 year old daughter part. Given how far she is in her puberty, its really creepy to think that she still can’t bathe herself unless there is a special case.
I have no problems with parents bathing their children however
If you go far enough west….you appear back where you started.
“Complete bullshit. Have you ever actually lived in Japan? If you have you’d know how much bullshit that was.”
i don’t know about Japan, but here….we have same culture with them….and we don’t think that’s gross. it’s you that have perverted mind
“In Japan a family usually have stronger bonds than a western family.”
Complete bullshit. Have you ever actually lived in Japan? If you have you’d know how much bullshit that was.
@Anyien
Probably because of the intimacy of it. From what I know, it’s common for Japanese families to bathe together and that builds intimacy through touch. Also it’s like setting aside time to hang out.
Also lol at “western” when that include all western Europe, each countries with their own cultures.
@ Anyien
“In Japan a family usually have stronger bonds than a western family.”
And you know this for a fact exactly how? By vicariously living the fictional Japanese life by watching anime, reading hentai and manga?
You’re just a weaboo, so get off Japan’s nuts and think through how ridiculously assumptive your statement was.
Doesn’t mean that she CANยดT bath by herself. Just that she WANT to take a bath with her father
In Japan a family usually have stronger bonds than a western family.
“i don’t know about Japan, but here….we have same culture with them….and we don’t think that’s gross. it’s you that have perverted mind”
I have a perverted mind about what? WTF are you talking about? Clearly perversion is on your mind, because I made no comment about bathing or perversion or anything of the sort. I only commented on the false “information” about Japanese families in general.
generelly
This is a correlation.
Obviously any daughter or son bathing with their father is going to have better relations because that means he is actually around. I’d be interested to know if those that didn’t bath and had lower feeling of their father; if their father just wasn’t around. ie: Working till 10pm waiting for ้จ้ท to go home.
This article is meant to promote being naked with children. Don’t ruin it with your logical thinking.
Being naked with or without children around has nothing to do with it. Just because you have reservations about being naked in a non-sexual situation doesn’t mean everyone else in the world also does.
@ Anon 05:55
Loli refers to a prepubescent girl, dumbshit.
Oh, tags. Very important. Loli means girl, and narrow minded/perverted people think of it as incest. I don’t believe the article was about fucking your kids.
nothing to do with it, yet the tags right at the top of this article are loli, lolicon, and incest. you and your ‘I’m better than you’ attitude fails. Lol
“My daughter is in the first year of middle school, we bathe together and share a bed. But sheโs annoyed by lifting her skirt in he living room โ you cannot understand the female mind.”
You can’t understand how doing something degrading to a girl might upset her? o_O
How did this dude even manage to HAVE kids? ๐
Simple. He kidnapped them.
My wife is Japanese. We live in Japan. She bathed with daddy into her teens. He also fingered her in her bed a few nights a week until she was 11, and then moved on to her little sister (4-5 years younger). I have pretty strong opinions about the tradition of Japanese men bathing with their daughters.
2nd way to make your daughter love you lick her pussy
I hate to agree with 2ch but you would catch a lot of flak in the States if the wrong people found out.
huh.. it’s weird how you’re all being so tolerant and whatever… usually you westerners freak out to the max before the mere mention of naked children near an adult
Believe everything you read on the internet I see.
First all “westerners” aren’t the same since a lot of different cultures (old and new) and ideas are mixing. And there’s a difference between the children of others and your own children, I think very few westerners would freak out if you bath with your children when they’re young (before their adolescence).
u r on san com
I would feel scared thinking the father is taken the opportunity of watching and touching her daughter naked and thinking of her in a sexual way (child abuse). She is her daughter!
But if not, if he is a good father and respects her little kid as his daughter and nothing more, not sexual, I think its ok, but until puberty, when the girl has to develop her sexual feelings about people and herself but not her dad…
Funny how the Japanese are so sensitive about pedophilia outdoors but indoors it’s awwwwwwwriiiiiiiiiiiggght
http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201111171147-291198.html
just 1 hug and it led to incest, what do you think bathing together will do?
Ah, Singapore… There’s your problem right there. Deep down, we’re all crazy perverts, restrained by a conservative society.
But seriously, localized incident much? You can’t go generalizing just based on one occurrence.
Singapore is like the British Commonwealth version of Socialist North Korea.
@20:21 One known occurrence…
Clearly this is why the Japanese word for ‘hug’ almost means ‘to make love’.
everyone knows hugs generally turn all men into pedophiles and make them want to commit incest with their underage daughters
…yes, that’s how it works
seems like someone’s never been hugged before…
poor you
Maybe you should read the entire article to which you linked.
I seriously doubt “one” hug led to incest, it takes more than that to want to fuck your daughter and vise versa