80% of Men “Oppose Women Only Carriages”

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According to a recent survey, as many as 80% of Japanese men object to the existence of Japan’s women-only carriages.

Some 80% of male survey respondents oppose the existence of such carriages, usually on grounds of unfairness, whilst 60% of women quizzed about the introduction of such services in Kobe approve.

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Such services are frequently popular amongst women for being more comfortable than normal carriages, and for preventing chikan activity.

Most of the women-only carriage services are concentrated in the most overcrowded lines in Tokyo, with carriages typically marked with girlish pink stickers and additional markers on the platforms.

Boarding the women-only carriage as a man is not itself a crime, but is likely to be greeted with an icy reception from passengers and eventual intervention from conductors. There have been some doubts about the legality of forcibly excluding men from the carriages, but this being Japan nobody has actually tested the matter in court.

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The major practical objection raised against the carriages is that they are supposedly much less full than ordinary carriages, so by their provision train operators are in effect providing discriminatory and inferior service to male customers.

Other practical objections tend to hinge on the fact that the carriages do not actually do anything to discourage or catch chikan, and may in effect simply concentrate more chikan on the remaining victims.

More principled opposition naturally picks up on the various gender equality implications of favouring women with such facilities whilst promoting the perception that male passengers are all predatory perverts.

Some men actually approve of the carriages as an effective protection against the not infrequent incidence of false groping allegations, which are typically successfully prosecuted based solely on an accusation of groping in a crowded carriage by the supposed victim – though so far operators have completely ignored demands for men-only carriages as an additional measure.

Others simply observe that if train operators did not run such horrendously overcrowded services as a matter of course, the conditions for widespread chikan activity would cease to exist.

Online, opposition is particularly strong:

“Be honest. You lot just want to rub up against young women, don’t you?”

“In every thread about these carriages it’s nothing but woman bashing, but the worst are the chikan doing the groping and the train companies packing people in to the trains like that.”

“It’s odd how they get away with packing their trains well over 100% capacity. Who determines the safety requirements? Shouldn’t everyone be seated in any case?”

“This is the first report saying most men oppose them that I’ve seen. Usually they claim everyone is in favour – possibly because the people conducting the surveys are the train companies and they are also the ones promoting the schemes.”

“Men-only carriages? If the sexes are equal, they would be provided. I’d support that.”

“Japan has so many chikan.”

“Make them. It’s worrying being near women on a train.”

“They’d be better off having carriages for the elderly and infirm, wouldn’t they?”

“It’d be better just to ban women from all but their own carriages.”

“They really should separate the sexes on trains, it’d stop any false chikan accusations completely.”

“Make more of them. They are so crowded now you never know when you might get accused of touching up a woman near you.”

“More of this feminist propaganda!”

“Just punish them more severely!”

“Crack down on false accusations!”

“I got on one by accident and was warned by a conductor. I was so glad to finally get a seat, but when I looked at the window it was women-only… the normal carriage was totally packed, what’s up with this discrimination?”

“Wasn’t this supposed to be a voluntary type thing? I saw a old guy who looked as if he had got on one by accident get surrounded by squawking women and then get dragged off the train to the station offices by a conductor though…”

“Men-only carriages would save us from false accusations. Why is everyone so against it?”

“There was a bunch of female diet members pushing for a ‘kids’ carriage, just for parents with children – a bunch of scumbags using kids as an excuse to grab even more carriages.”

“They don’t care about protecting anyone, there are no carriages for the elderly or children. They are only interested in treating men as potential criminals.”

“In Nagoya the carriage is right in the middle closest to the platform stairs, it’s a real nuisance.”

“Yes, in Nagoya the men have to walk to the ends of the platforms to get on.”

“I’ve never seen any chikan-related incident on the trains. Isn’t all of this just a huge overreaction?”

“I’ve been groped by a woman…”

“80% want to become chikan!”

“They should make chikan-only carriages.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    14:23 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Woman: "Hey, you man! Get off the womens'-only traincar! Can't you see it's pink?!"

    Man: "I'm sorry, I knew it was pink, but thought it was the 'K-On!' traincar."

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:10 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Woman: "Hey, you man! Get off the womens'-only traincar! Can't you see it's pink?!"

    Man: B*tch, I'm color blind!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:55 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Woman: Bitch, go back to 2nd grade and learn to read.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:59 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And unable to read.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:34 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    *looks at train* All I can decipher is that number on the side of it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:32 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or an evil gaijin.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:29 21/12/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    what if a foreigner doesn't understand the sign

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    Comment by MK 7 DUDE
    19:07 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Man: Besides, I GOT NO interest in 3D woman like you! Now shoo!
    Woman: WTF?
    Man: Haa!Haa! Oh yui-nyan...What you looking at?
    Woman:.....

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    Comment by mangalowres
    21:01 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Woman: "Hey, you man! Get off the womens'-only traincar! Can't you see it's pink?!"

    Man:"I just wanted to penetrate the pink part"

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:11 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Conductor: "Man, get to the back of the train right now!!!!!!!!!one."

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:23 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Get to the back of the train? What am I, black now?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:30 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Vandread coming soon?

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    00:07 24/08/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    I think we all know the K-on! carriage is for perverted men only.

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    Comment by Demi-Rebel 72
    13:52 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Wait, why is there woman only carriages in the first place? Doesn't that considered sexist?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:17 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Sexism only goes one way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:25 25/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The entire bullshit regarding sexism is because people bitch about it in the first place.

    Really. Women only carriages are fine. Healthy Men should stand up and be a gentleman for the fair sex. If it means giving them their own bloody carriage, good on them, women are not accustomed to the crowded and pressing nature of rush hour and confronting molesters.

    The proper way to fight sexism, is to provide women with what they want with the understanding that as the weaker sex, they require the handicap.

    Comment by Anonymous

    You know, I was with you..until the last parts. Weaker sex; require handicap? Heh, you know, I know Women can be more perverse than men at times, but..

    You sure don't know a single crap about them at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:28 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:49 25/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Sexism = prefer men
    Equality of men and women = prefer women

    Comment by Anonymous

    The men whining about this are so pathetic.

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    Comment by Hayate
    15:12 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    i know what u mean, my country started adding this train too
    what im wondering is why the hell didn't they make it female + elderly + children? it wont be considered sexist that way...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:08 24/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Derp, dude.

    It wouldn't be sexist completely, but it would still be against a group of people; males in this case.

    Comment by Anonymous

    which is fine since males are the bigger offender of the two sexes. There are horny women as well, but men by far outweigh women in that department. Ironically, there's more women in the world than there are men.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:17 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    d00d old men are the biggest perverts. Haven't you ever seen Dragon Ball?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:13 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or Ranma?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:25 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Mmm...chicken

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:28 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They exist because women getting groped by men is a thing that happens, while men getting groped by women really isn't except for the rarest of cases. If ladies groping dudes was a problem too and only ladies got the women-only carriage, that would be inequality. Otherwise? No.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:13 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    whatever dude, we don't have enough cases in HK to validate this kinda BS, and I don't think its that bad in Japan either.

    But let's say that it is, you know what also happens often? False accusations settled out of court for money!

    THERE'S your reason for male only carriages you sexist!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:11 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    No. The problem is that there is just not enough space. The companies who own the trains merely misdirect the issue instead of doing anything about it. They are the one to blame.

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    Comment by konakona
    03:45 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They don't have enough space yet they're worried about population decline...

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    Comment by kumesana
    07:51 25/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    > whatever dude, we don't have enough cases in HK to validate this kinda BS, and I don't think its that bad in Japan either.

    Oh, I think it is.

    > But let's say that it is, you know what also happens often? False accusations settled out of court for money!
    >
    > THERE'S your reason for male only carriages you sexist!

    Yup, that's more like it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Population decline will be the best thing to ever happen to Japan. It's population should never have been as high it was to begin with.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:57 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    That there is a groping problem doesn't mean that this isn't inequality. You can now (on some lines) get an infinitely more comfortable ride just because you're a woman.
    Meanwhile men, most of whom not chikan, are forced into carriages where one can hardly breathe. Saying this disparity is okay is an abject endorsement of collective punishment.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:17 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Just a side effect? Are you nuts? Its a direct effect, as well as the discrimination.

    Do you live in some sort of vacuum where treating people differently only achieves its purpose and doesn't harm anyone else.

    I pray you will never be a politician.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:14 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    if I was a woman I'd take the cramped carriage out of principle

    Avatar of Evil Santa, Has Come To Town
    22:03 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    So the men who lives are ruined by false accusations, does not require a mens-only carriage ? grope for the women is disgusting however the men who are false accuses life ends up in ruin, which one deceives it more ? sheesh people don't use common sense.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:01 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You guys act like every woman who says a man groped her is evil and every man accused is some innocent man who was falsely accused and didn't do anything wrong. You guys are idiots. This is Japan FFS.

    Avatar of Evil Santa, Has Come To Town
    22:05 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    So the men who's lives are ruined bu false accusations, does not require a mens-only carriage ? groping for the women is disgusting however the men who are false accused lives end up in ruin, which one deceives it more ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:12 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "So calling the absence of a men only car inequality or sexism is wrong, because the women only car is specifically to solve groping and only unintentionally brushes against the crowding problem."

    You're retarded.

    It may be to solve a different problem, but it's caused this new problem of "sexism", by not allowing the opposing gender to ride.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:22 27/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I want to know if they added a women only carriage or if they just changed one into a women-only carriage... if the latter was true,it could be called sexism because men would have to put the same amount of people into 1 less carriage... + japan is a country where still most women only work until they marry, so who knows if the capacity of 1 whole wagon is wasted on a few women.

    Another point is that if they still have 1st class,they should get rid of that first to solve the problems of crowded trains,noone uses 1st class anyway because it is way too expensive...

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:13 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Men do get maternity leave. you flaming retard.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:14 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think a lot of them do actually.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yes, crowding is a problem. But crowding and groping are -two different problems-, and the women only car's lack of crowding is just a side effect. So calling the absence of a men only car inequality or sexism is wrong, because the women only car is specifically to solve groping and only unintentionally brushes against the crowding problem.

    Look, here's a similar example. Women get maternity leave, because women need it to have babies. Men don't get maternity leave. Men not getting maternity leave isn't sexist and it isn't inequality, because -men don't have babies-.

    On that line, women get a women only car because groping is a problem for them. Men don't get a men only car. Men not getting a men only car isn't sexist and it isn't inequality, because -groping is not a problem for them-.

    Yes, crowding in Japanese trains is a problem. Yes, the Japanese transit authorities should work on solutions for it. But to call women only train cars sexist is dumb, because it's not about that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:10 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or they could just not allow women in trains. Everybody wins. Or they could just actually treat people equally ( have men-only carriages ).

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:29 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Or they could require the women to get on their knees and suck cocks. Everybody wins. Why bother groping when all dicks are treated equally?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:13 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I just realized that this is starting to look like the old "equal but separate".

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:43 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    While we are at it, add black only cars to protect them from neonazi and add white only cars to "even" things out. See where this is going? Equal treatment does not make people equal. Equal opportunity does.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:20 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This FFS.

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    Comment by Demi-Rebel 72
    14:57 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    I see, well that's understandable.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:23 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    LoL you still think you are a woman ?

    your clit is too big !

    go away ! this train is not for you !

    trolololololol

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:29 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I want to know why it is there are women in the first place.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:14 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    people feel up women on trains and busses, because its crowed and hard to get caught.

    female only trains, however are so un crowded that its discriminatory against men who can hardly breath they are so fucking packed.

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    Comment by shinryou
    20:22 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think it's much of a problem here in Osaka. at least on the JR ring-line there is the same amount of people in the female only and mixed carriages during rush hour. for most of the major stations the female only carriage is actually not in a convenient place (car 5 of 8), the main stairs are usually at the ends of the platforms. also the rapid service trains coming in from the outside of Osaka forming the fast services on the ring are as far as I can tell not restricted (roughly every 3rd to 4th train).

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:45 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not just that. Where I come from women still stubbornly board the regular cars despite the presence of the exclusive car in the (desperate) hope of finding a vacant seat.

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    Comment by yuriphoria
    01:20 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    With is actually the real problem. Rather than women only carriages they should simply add more carriages until people can breathe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:19 23/08/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    nothing wrong about that just blamed that own bad luck

    Comment by Anonymous

    I'm all for it. There are way too many cases of Japanese men groping women. As usual Japan targets the wrong problem. Instead of bitching about women's only carriages, they should be finding out how to stop the groping and molesting so they don't need them.

    Also, Japanese people need to stop being weak little bitches and help the people being molested when it happens. That would also cut down on a need for these cars.

    Until then, I'd be perfectly find with my girlfriend riding in a woman's only car when I'm not there. Jap guys won't stop groping, and Japs in general aren't actually doing anything to be of real help, so why not?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:20 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    you have a girlfriend get out of here

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:21 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    just let her get grope it isn't that of a big deal

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:21 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    no.... you are mistaken....

    you are just a misandry girl
    or misandric woman....

    Misandry.... Google it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:25 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    In a country without Victorian or puritain influence, why should women be outraged about being groped? It shouldn't even bother them. It's not like the Japanese culture values purity or chastity. I bet the bitches only complain about groping because they aren't getting paid for it, but then they'll happily go suck a random stranger's dick for 10,000円 as soon as they get off the train. It's the height of hypocrisy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:18 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You guys are fucking idiots, and if there are men who think this way I can understand why there would be woman-only cars.

    So if some gay guy starts rubbing all over your cock it won't be a big deal to you? Understood.

    And I sure as hell wouldn't want some woman I cared about getting felt up on a train.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:21 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Perhaps the issue isn't a large portion of Japanese guys groping but the exaggerated belief that there are a large portion of Japanese guys groping.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:35 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    You say there are alot of groping incidents, but how many of those are false accusations hrmm? we've already heard of a few, it's more than likely that there are alot more that don't get found out that the woman was lying.

    Of course thats not saying that they're all lies, but it can go either way pal.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    In Hong Kong we have very few of these incidents. I don't think Japanese people are that different, but maybe they are (horny nation).

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    22:11 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes the groping is a problem and needs to be solve but wouldn't equality that everyone and their granny is bitching about be better because if some of you don't know false chikan accusation have ruined lives, example a student who was falsely accused, beaten, questioned and he killed himself, doesn't that give enough reason to give the men a carriage to if that isn't I don't know what is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:07 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    From where I come from ,it's so packed you couldn't even grope. True Story.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:52 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Which of the following...

    A) 20:21 has seen a lot of chikan porn.
    B) 20:21 has seen a lot of accusations.
    C) 20:21 has done a lot of goggling.
    D) 20:21 has done more than one of the above.
    or
    E) 20:21 has provided his opinions as fact.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:21 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Where the hell have you guys been?! There are TONS of valid groping incidents in Japan. And yes, I've seen it, and I've seen a lot of it. It happens so much you wouldn't believe it.

    Stuff like this is unheard of in the west, but in Japan it's ridiculously common.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:28 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    just have to live with it

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    15:44 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.3)

    No, there ARE a lot of groping incidents, many of them not even reported.

    I think the more serious issue is that trains are overpacked which allows for those incidents to happen.

    I do think it's somewhat discriminatory and all but I don't explicitly disagree with the carriages. Whatever works for them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:29 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    don't believe you

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:20 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh you are in japan

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:23 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I live in Japan. All the people here who are against these cars seem to be thinking of things as if they were happening in their home countries. But not all countries are the same and there are different circumstances for everything.

    Until Japan has the guts to actually deal with these crimes instead of trying to cover them up, and when people get the guts to step up and help people in trouble, then I can understand why the cars are needed.

    I shit you not every time someone has stepped in to help a woman who was getting groped it was a westerner. Every fucking time. The Japanese people just try to ignore it and hope it will go away.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:38 23/08/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    It's not sexist or unfair because large percentages of men aren't getting groped by women.

    What's with all you whiny crybaby beta males lately?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:17 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Ever get rubbed up by a female fatty? It's not fun.

    Also, if they want to be retarded by providing female only carriages then they should also provide male only carriages to keep the men safe from false accusations.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:22 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    sure isn't fun

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    Comment by HouseLife
    15:17 23/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Because we don't like hypocritical, whiny, bitchy females either. Women called for 'equality' and it is given by the intelligent among us in reasonable fashion. But when women pretend that equality is to seek more than men for one reason or another, then the so-called 'whining' occurs when it's against women getting special treatment under the guise of 'equality.' ie - Hypocrisy.

    Those who grope are in a minority. The accidental touching is because of the packing going on. The issue is not sexism, equality, or any such bullshit. It's dealing with the trains being put at risk due to overcrowding that will start a true solution. And the false grope charges are going beyond the law, violating due process at the word of a single woman with no witnesses or evidence, and destroying lives in a land where your reputation determines your career, among other things.

    So if you want to pretend that men being against women getting special treatment at the detriment of everyone else is the mark of 'whiny crybaby beta males' then don't be surprised when you find out what happens when men get mentally castrated by bullshit for a long enough period of time. Equality will stop meaning anything, and women will lose the respect of men for being petulant and the work of feminists for decades will be ruined because of greed. If women lose the respect of men due to trying to take more than they deserve, it will be a spiraling down of worse things occurring in society.

    We are equals, and most intelligent men will be more than happy to agree to that. But when 'equality' becomes a trap for men, then it's become something impure and not worth wasting our time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:07 23/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    The USA sure seems like it could use a Mens Rights and Whites Rights movement to balance the scales due to the inequality that occurs through Womans Rights and Affirmative Action.

    Or does my saying so make me out to be some sort of fascist prick? But who are the real pricks?

    Avatar of Evil Santa, Has Come To Town
    22:19 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @20:33:- did you and I read the same post ? because obviously your reading skills must suck, your trolling or your way to ignorant to take seriously, I suggest you re-read what lifehouse said because it makes sense.

    By the way it would be "equality" if men got they own car, cause if you don't fucking know in japan, a accusation like that fucks with your life and people have commit suicide for it, so next post please show some class.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:17 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "By the way it would be 'equality' if men got they own car..."

    "Separate but equal" has already been proven in 20th Century America as not being true equality.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    08:34 25/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @17:11, 17:12, and 17:29

    My mistake for writing it incorrectly, but I did say it would make me unpopular. Let me clarify. If they actually ejaculate on you, I said you have DNA evidence, and therefore have a reason for prosecution. I wrote it badly because I was tired.

    I will clarify what I meant by not wanting to hear about it. I'm sick of hearing that all men are being blamed for the mistakes of the few. Women who blame all men for the mistakes of a few who can't contain themselves. In that regard, I became defensive, because I've been accused of things that were completely untrue before by girls who quite frankly did it to cause me trouble, and did so. You women may know what it's like to have people want to touch you on the backside or something, but frankly, when I get accused of something I didn't do, and my life is affected because of it, frankly, I lose sympathy. I was nearly having permanent affects to my life because of the lies of some women. Give me a specific instance of a woman who was traumatized, and you will have my sympathy. Otherwise, generalities such as the topics like this article make me want everyone to shut up and look at the real problem.

    The real problem is shitty train service and the sexual repression of the Japanese in general. Trying to treat a symptom with methods like this is one step forward and two steps back. All this will do is segregate men and women and send society back to times like the 60s in our country. Women have already struggled enough to be treated as equals amongst us men who unfortunately back then did (in some cases) in fact take power over women to literal extremes. If segregation becomes the 'solution' of fools, then you're going to solve something in the short-term, and in the long term, society will fall backwards.

    In regards to the compliment aspect. Ask yourself seriously. Is it that hard of a concept? It's not an accepted one, but yes, a man did think enough to want to be near you. It means they were attracted to you. Whether you want it or not, it is still a true expression of them liking you. If you don't want it, you don't want it, and you express it. Simple as that. Everyone makes such complicated matters out of simple things, and while that might seem insensitive, in the end, frankly this is the type of stuff that happens when the very normal aspects of male-female interaction are so withheld for this long and we're not allowed to be the sexual beings that we are. Both male AND female.

    I apologize if I didn't clearly write what I meant, and I was trying to say that while a light grope shouldn't be a bigger deal than to tell them to stop and confront them (which I know is a generality and can be more complicated) but when it escalates, then evidence becomes apparent and witnesses can be involved. This is when prosecution should occur. I will never ever agree, no matter what, that a simple grope in any instance is enough to ruin a person's life. I don't care how insensitive it makes me sound.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:29 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So ejaculating on a woman in public is no big deal? Right.

    Earlier I said I rode the crowded cars on principle. I won't be doing that anymore. What's the use?

    With all these "get back in the kitchen" and "let men grope you and get over it" comments why bother?

    You can't treat people like garbage and then expect them to stand by you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:24 20/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    whining ? this is internet .
    deal with it.

    F**k your opinion .....

    ( sorry for the grammar i'm not
    good at English or whatever )

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:12 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Take it as a compliment... now get over it."

    ...........the fuck?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:11 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Houselife, I can easily say that you lost any respect I had for you. Telling girls to just brush off getting groped or even ejaculated on because you are "tired of hearing about it"? You're telling girls to take it as a compliment and be understanding of that kind of sick violation of her space? Go to hell, seriously. You're no better than these scum, and your blame the victim mentality is sickening.

    I made a point to ride in the cars with both sexes, but fuck it. If men think so little of us that it's okay to get jizzed on by strangers then there is no reason in hell I should stand up for their rights.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    07:04 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @20:33

    What male discrimination issues are you talking about exactly? You know what I consider a male discrimination issue? Sexual harassment as a whole these days.

    Part of the mating dance is to show physical attraction to a woman, however these days, since foolish men in the past made inappropriate decisions and used their positions of power to elicit sexual favors from women in the work force, now the pendulum has swung so far in the opposite direction that we're not allowed near any women at all for fear that we're automatically a pervert if we touch them even on the shoulder in any way that could even be misconstrued as sexual. We can't even be free to speak of sex with women or even joke about sex, which is in fact, quite funny in reality much of the time. And that's not to say that women wouldn't have the chance to say when it makes them uncomfortable, but it's become ridiculous.

    Do you know what it's called to be a man who would like to be close to and flirt with a woman, even a little physically? A heterosexual man. "Pervert" is thrown around so freely these days. I'm a pervert because when a woman has a hot ass and accents it with tight jeans, I stare, but I've been called a pervert when caught. No. That's not what perversion is when the intention of the clothing IS to attract attention there. The definition is in the damn word, it's an abnormality. I don't see a hot ass and chase her down so I can hang her upside down with meat hooks. THAT'S perversion.

    I will say something that won't make me popular, but frankly the groping is getting annoying to hear about. Yes, I have sympathy for young women who don't know what to think and get scared in an uncomfortable scenario, yes, I have no desire for rapes to occur as an escalation of groping, but groping itself is an impermanent event. Even as far as the actual perverts who do ejaculate on a woman's clothing, it's still an impermanent event that can be taken care of with a napkin and a washing machine.

    And of course I won't ignore the 'psychological' aspect, but honestly... if a man touches a woman's backside gently or with a little pressure, or fondles her breasts a bit, and that is the end of it, I'm reaching a point after all this where all I can say is "Okay... a man thought enough of you to put himself at risk. Take it as a compliment... now get over it. Or next time, scream or slap him or something. If you do nothing, then I honestly can't say anything."

    My original comments were that a solution could be found by updating their rail system with cars designed to hold more people. Even adding a couple more cars at the end that people can walk into and a door-holding system so that they won't miss their stop due to crowds could be implemented. But false groping accusations ARE a worthy thing for men to be pissed about, because they violate our basic legal right to due process. So in summation, while women may get a potentially uncomfortable impermanent squeeze, we have the potential to have our lives ruined by vindictive women with no defense in our favor.

    Are you going to claim foolishly that it's a pointless thing to pay attention to? Need I explain the concept of the Domino Effect?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Women are fundamentally inferior to men. Granting women's rights was opening up a can of worms. Bitches belong cleaning our homes, in the kitchen making us a sandwich, or on their knees sucking our dicks. They should be treated like the chattel that they are. The Islamic sphere is the only culture left that's doing it right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:33 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Women are fundamentally inferior to men. Granting women's rights was opening up a can of worms. Bitches belong cleaning our homes, in the kitchen making us a sandwich, or on their knees sucking our dicks. They should be treated like the chattel that they are. The Islamic sphere is the only culture left that's doing it right."

    0/10 troll

    Or do you really think it's cool to sound like you rolled out of the 18th century and like you clearly have no redeeming qualities to get a woman? Oh yeah, you're awesome and we all respect you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:30 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    All the men here are really bitching about train cars? And all the while none of them gave a shit about all the other millions of ways Japanese women aren't treated as equal.

    Just goes to show that men will go to any length to be on top, no matter what the cost to the woman. And why should girl stand up for you guys when you won't do shit for us?

    If there are women out there who aren't being treated as equal in value by a society, the men have themselves to blame for not doing enough, and have no right to bitch when things get out of control.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:26 24/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So you guys will go on and on and write books against how bad you men are treated with this train car incident, but no one speaks up to 6:29. Not one of you guys says anything. Got it. =/ Good to know you believe in equality.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Hey, comment above me.
    Quit Your Bitching.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 23/08/2011 # ! Drivel (-1.0)

    Blah blah blah. You whiners are making a huge deal out of this, but the women only cars in Japan make perfect sense.

    Anyone who has lived in an urban Japanese area would know that a large percentage of women get groped here. Not bumped into, not brushed against, GROPED. The fact that any of you are trying to make that less than it is is pathetic and disgusting. And the people who grope are in the minority, but in Japan it is a fucking HUGE minority.

    Not every incident of women getting treated differently (especially for valid reasons like rampant molestation) deserves all this whiny crybaby bullshit. Not all incidents are equal.

    You whiny beta males will jump on anything that your insecure asses perceive as unfair, even when they are perfectly logical courses of action. No real man is bitching that women get their own car, especially if a woman they care about is faced with picking one or the other because fuckers can't keep their hands to themselves. If you're mad that the cars are too crowded, then bitch about that, not a women's only car.

    Real men can pick their battles for something really important and unfair. And all I see here is crybaby whining from a bunch of bitchy, catty, beta males. You're whining about trains. Go whine about male discrimination issues that matter and stop acting like little bitches. And stop pretending you're not just insecure that you're not getting your way.

    Yes, we're equal in value, but as men we're generally bigger and stronger than women. And I'll gladly take more discomfort so I'm not crushing a small woman against the side of a train car. No real man would say otherwise.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    what kind of universe do you live in? Most women don't get groped you dumbshit

    Comment by Anonymous

    I think they just keep silent about it

    Comment by Anonymous

    You guys are thinking in western terms though. The men in the west generally know how to treat women and are light years ahead of men in Japan socially.

    Groping is a huge issue on Japanese trains. Odd but true.

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    Comment by Demi-Rebel 72
    14:56 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who says anyone was whining? I was just curious to know why women have a "women's only" carriage you lemony jerk:P

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:35 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lemony? Is that one of those hilarious UK insults? Like "wanker"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:24 23/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ha ha.... wanker...








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