Ishihara at Yasukuni: “The Democrats Aren’t Japanese!”

  • Author: Artefact
  • Categories: Uncategorized
  • Date: Aug 17, 2011 08:15 JST

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Tokyo fuhrer Shintaro Ishihara has paid his annual respects to Japanese war criminals at Yasukuni, saying Japan’s current government “is not Japanese” for choosing to stay away.

Talking to the media, he was characteristically outspoken:

[The DPJ cabinet aren't visiting to pay their respects?]

“Shouldn’t Japanese pay their respects? That lot aren’t Japanese!”

Ishihara is of course a long time visitor to the shrine.

Yasukuni Shrine enshrines the souls of Japan’s 2,466,532 pre-1951 war dead; the major issue surrounding political visits to the shrine is the fact that in 1978 the souls of 14 Class A war criminals were explicitly enshrined as “martyrs.”

Other dubious fixtures at the shrine include a statue celebrating the sacrifice of kamikaze pilots, a statue honouring an Indian war crimes tribunal judge who insisted the USA was responsible for the war, and a revisionist war museum glorifying Japan’s attempt to “liberate” Asia.

The actual content of the shrine is determined by its own religious administration and various private groups. Due to the constitutional protection of freedom of religion and the post-war separation of Shinto and state, it is said to be impossible to compel the shrine’s administration to remove the war criminals.

In the eyes of critics, political visits to a shrine which goes to great lengths to honour fascists and mass murderers constitute a celebration of same, and since 1978 even the emperor has refused to visit the shrine out of concern over the enshrinement of war criminals (although he does despatch emissaries).

Since 1978, visits by politicians have taken on a strong foreign policy dimension, with Sino-Japanese relations ostensibly heavily influenced by whether an administration conducts visits.

PM Kan and his cabinet refrained from visiting Yasukuni at all, which can either be interpreted as a harmless diplomatic gesture of contrition to their overly sensitive Asian neighbours, or a slavish display of the subservient foreign policy they have become notorious for.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    08:50 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    That asshat is the very personification of everything that is wrong with Japan.

    He's like a fucking Sith-Lord, playing the old, harmless guy but his actions are the very definition of evil and corruption.

    Yes, like in the Star Wars movies, democracy will die with thunderous applause.

    I just hope that this time there will be a "Jedi-Knight" to strike that evil down.

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    Comment by Megidola
    09:19 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Hopefully Ishihara will get thrown into a reactor...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:40 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Fukushima Reactor 1, preferably, for his comments about "divine punishment"...

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    just like a lord sith

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    09:21 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    The Star Wars movies perfectly describes our never ending battle for justice against the Sith-Lord;

    Episode I : The Ishihara Menace
    Episode II : Attack of the Censors
    Episode III: Revoting of Ishihara
    Episode IV : A New Mosaic
    Episode V : The Censorship Board Strikes Back
    Episode VI : Return of the DC

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    Comment by Bayonette
    00:21 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fund it, man!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:45 21/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    A true American Republican at heart.

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    Comment by Kuraudo
    01:53 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hyperbole much?

    Also, thinly veiled references to how you hope he gets assassinated automatically makes normal people want to take his side of things, even if they disagree with some of his ideas.

    I mean, christ, internet is serious business guyz.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:00 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Your point of view is just as simple minded, you know?

    People like Ishihara, they don't care. They take, they maim and they trample over everything else as long as it serves them. His actions so far are in perfect accordance of what constitutes the mindset of despots.
    Sure, you can downplay it all by saying that it's "only" pieces of entertainment and various weak groupings of society that he's targeting.
    People like him are dangerous. They attract a lot of blind following and not because of real conviction. He's playing those weak-ass government fools and the ignorant masses because he knows that they are too afraid to step up.
    Why do you think that it's always the minorties that are targeted by such crazy lunatics? It's because they rarely fight back. People like him NEED weak scapegoats. Look at Sankaku. We have lots of mindless Ishihara supporters here. For every troll there are two who actually do support that man.

    I can see why many people do not veil their hostility towards that man. In fact, a lot of histories darkest chapters would have stayed unwritten if certain figureheads would have vanished sooner than later.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 19/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Welcome to the Internets kind sir.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:05 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lord sith is plotting the end of all ecchi manga / anime BWAHAHAHAHA!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:11 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    Did you know that most genocides start with slander, censorship and badmouthing? Cunning fuckers start the killing once the opposition is almost gone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:32 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    This!
    I'm starting to think that for some reason humanity needs at least one big villain and one major genocide each century.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    08:52 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    News flash: Ishihara ain't human.

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    Comment by Megidola
    09:17 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    He's genetically defective.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    corrupt (all) politicans are

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:30 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Right-wingers tend to be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:13 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Extreme lefts are equally as bad.

    Comment by Anonymous

    If Ishihara was American, I can guarantee you that he would be a Republican.

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    Comment by MK 7 DUDE
    19:18 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Dear Ishihara,

    Sir, there are reasons for my avatar:

    1. For douche-bags who can't think

    2. To remind myself

    3. Specially for you

    Sincerely,
    MK "Sankaku" 7 DUDE

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    Comment by MK 7 DUDE

    You must be new.
    Welcome to Sankaku, orenji!

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:42 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Fail. He is Diamond Dust.

    Comment by Anonymous
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    Comment by Kuraudo
    01:51 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you're going to say things like that, you only help him prove his points and strengthen his cause.

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    Comment by Ota-Kool
    19:20 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    He's a zombie that should be shot in the head like the Korean actor in HOTD!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:36 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    no, why this guy has been voted into public office and not into a mental institution is beyond comprehension

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    Comment by Conduit
    15:28 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Because Japan's voting populace is completely dominated by elderly who are just as senile as Ishihara.

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    Comment by cats2
    11:05 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Because they're more concerned if the next Miku concert will show the holograms right or not and comiket.

    Sad but true.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Have you ever met your neighbours? Unless you're very lucky, you'll find that the best conversation you can have with them is the short kind that only touches upon the weather. And even then they might make you want to rip their throats out.
    In unrelated news, Artefact should have the decency to spell Führer with an umlaut.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:19 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    In Japan, it's even more funny if you catch some of them talking behind your back (which they will always do)and you confront them by answering in Japanese. They WILL become VERY silent and squirm back into their holes real fast.

    Also, as a foreigner in their country, you will always face some sort of hostility. Even if you're from a country which they consider to be on very friendly terms. Americans usually get the full hate-treatment, just like Koreans and Chinese. They are surprisingly friendly when you reveal yourself to be a German (which a friend of mine can confirm) but they are nonetheless mildly hostile.

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    Comment by Your Name

    Between him and all the other options that run for his position... he is the lesser insane one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:13 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    It's funny how often the "lesser evil" turns into a complete nightmare to those who opted to do nothing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:35 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    reminds me of elections in Germany. As the old German saying goes: "Muss das kleinere Übel denn wirkklich so groß sein?"

    (Why is the lesser evil so big?)

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:35 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    i would've voted for his communist opponent

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:21 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The JCP is the least corrupt party in Japan, and it has the benefit of not having sided with either the Soviets or the Chinese in the Sino-Soviet split leaving it outside both Blocs and as such it is untainted by either.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Communism? Hell no.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:35 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    As expected of a rape novelist to visit rapists.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    09:07 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    He wants to be enshrined together with his fellow like-minded comrades as "The Man Who Butchered Manga and Anime"

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    Comment by Carrot_Glace
    09:26 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    If you take into account that Ishihara wants a military junta government and nukes, maybe destroying manga and anime as we know (and sometimes love) is just a hobby for him.

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    Comment by Myballz
    10:49 17/08/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    No, he wants the Japanese as a Military power to rape foreigners so that Japanese can be allow to rape anyone, anywhere, any time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:35 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    @ Myballz

    MY GOD! I SEE! It's so clear to me now. Ishihara is a fucking genius!

    He wants a world where rape is allowed to flourish naturally-where men (and sometimes women) are free to rape whoever they please and whenever they please without being judged. Just like the good lord intended them to.

    And it solves Japan's population problem!

    Good going, mein Furher!

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    Comment by Yamato
    12:26 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    @anon 10:57

    but killing him (at least at the hands of an otaku) is exactly what he wants. Think about it: such a killing would only be refueling the negative public image of otaku that festered since the incidents with Tsutomu Miyazaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki), and god knows the son of a bitch wouldn't mind sacrificing himself to accomplish this. Even if he is a god damn nutjob, someone willing to murder over 2D isn't gonna look good for anybody, and will only give those who like 2D a bad name.

    Sad as it is to say, we can only hope nature (or a rival politician or somebody with absolutely no ties to otaku subculture) manages to kill him off for us. Or, we can hope that Japan's voting population actually grows a brain and doesn't vote him back into power at some point (if Ishihara himself doesn't die soon, the elderly population that continually elects him will).

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    09:54 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    "Sepearation of Shinto and state", I can't help but wonder if it's really called that...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Yamato

    or just kill him and make it look like an accident

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    Comment by Yamato
    14:53 19/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ anon 2:14

    but what are the odds that future generations of elderly will still maintain his rightist values? As they die off, at some point they're bound to get overtaken by a population that ISN'T stuck in the post-war remodeling period.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:12 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    most of us don't want to go to jail unfortunately ; ) (same person)

    An 'accident' would be best.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:14 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yamato: Lol, there are more old people in Japan by the day and will be until the pop stabilizes to 1-2-4-8. Learn demographics : )

    otherwise, good points

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:12 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    do it ureself

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:57 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This man must die, that's a death "please do this" threat. It's on a websit, written down. Fucking kill him someone, it's for the betterment of the world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:27 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    He wants to be enshrined together with those died in the war?

    Anybody care to help him realize his dream?

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    Comment by Gradius
    12:50 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The man? You mean the LUNATIC!

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    10:41 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think that will just boost the number of people visiting the shrine... imagine legions of otakus as well as regular citizens who were forced to accept his self-restraint BS coming there just to pee and dump on his memorial.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:36 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Count me in. I'd consider it a party.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:23 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yasukuni is a shrine dedicated to those who fought for their country.

    War criminals were simply determined by the victor. If anything the Allies are just as guilty.

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    Comment by seikosan
    10:56 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    http://www.pacificwar.org.au/webgraphics/JapWarCrimes/Aussie_execution.jpg

    http://www.pastreunited.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/4-24_japanese_war_crime_4.jpg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

    or you could look it up yourself

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

    Human crimes? what are those? I guess it's just something determined by the victor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

    [http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f181/34437d1234939289-wwii-holocaust-buchenwald-camp-bodies-buchenwald-prisoners-april-1945..jpg]http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f181/34437d1234939289-wwii-holocaust-buchenwald-camp-bodies-buchenwald-prisoners-april-1945..jpg

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:09 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This!
    The German dude approves!

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    Comment by Minru
    10:50 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    As far as i know, pre-WW2 japan was not a signatory of the geneva conventions. They applied their concept of bushido to prisoners and invaded populace which was wrong, but it is just as wrong to judge them by our standards. However allot of those people were pretty scummy even by ultra right wing bushido standards.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:04 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Offenses by human kind in general, nationality has nothing to do with it imho.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:34 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @JC:
    Wikipedia is not objective.
    Obviously Japan committed some notable war crimes - human experimentation and the Rape on Nanking, etc.

    However, Japan's war crimes are petty offenses compared to the offenses of the USA.

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    Comment by seikosan
    03:23 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Japan's war crimes are petty offenses compared to the offenses of the USA." hahahahaha ha ha sure bro...whatever you say. Give me some examples of crimes against humanity committed by the USA during the Second World War. Any? Even the known crimes USA has committed to this day cannot compare to the crimes committed by Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany in the past.
    The USA has waterboarding, humiliation through sodomy, administration of STD's to prisoners in Guantanamo, JDAMs into civilian complexes, agent orange, nuclear irradiated survivors, rape, beat downs, and execution.
    If you consider these acts to be worse than what the Japanese did in WWII alone then that's your own fucked up mentality.

    That said, I don't have to go to Wikipedia to find evidence of the atrocities committed by Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, it just happens to be the most convenient. Go visit your local library or talk to a history teacher. THE MOAR YOU KNOW*

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:28 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But you are not completely oblivious that it is used for exactly the wrong propaganda, time and again?

    Seriously, there's a really wise saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    How long do people WANT to be played as fools? Ishithara's motives are crystal clear. He's not even trying to camouflage his insanity any longer.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:33 17/08/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I thought it was "Fool me once,shame on you. Fool me twice,sha... won't get fooled again."

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    Comment by Achiuakuna

    Agreed. All the chinks and gooks are just too unreasonable about this. Just because some people died for a cause that was lost doesn't mean their lives are worthless and people should be BANNED from remembering them at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:04 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nobody ban the family from remember them but if you going to make it a big deal there will be people that get piss off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:29 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why not just hire some Yakuza to burn the tombs of the war criminals and start visiting the shrine again?

    It is morally wrong to neglect honoring millions of soldiers who simply obeyed the emperor because of a few mass rapists.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:23 17/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hate to break it to you but...the Yakuza are business partners with those guys.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:59 18/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Simplest solution would be, imnsho, to make a new memorial for those that perished and were not involved with warcrimes etc.







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