Comiket 80 = “Touhou vs Fujoshi”

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Comiket 80 is not far off, and with the participating circle numbers and types duly tallied up, observers have noted the event is now all but monopolised by Touhou fans and fujoshi…

The circle numbers in detail, based on 2ch’s analysis of the recently released catalogue:

Touhou – 2808

Hetalia – 1302

Basara – 870

Reborn – 572

VOCALOID – 558

Gintama – 486

Prince of Tennis – 468

IdolMaster – 418

Inazuma Eleven – 408

Durarara - 380

Lyrical Nanoha - 370

Nintama Rantaro – 308

One Piece – 288

NARUTO – 286

K-ON! – 246

Madoka – 236

FMA – 202

Big Windup! – 200

BLEACH – 181

Gundam 00 – 178

Code Geass – 150

Although no single title can come close to the dominance of Touhou, the collective might of the fujoshi horde crushes them easily underfoot – with moeblob fans barely registering at all.


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    Avatar of paimei
    Comment by paimei
    05:56 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Pai Mei sez:

    "Hetalia? Really? It's kung-fu is weak!"

    02:37 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    That's a lot of Touhou.

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    Comment by humus
    02:39 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    For the Zun then

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    Comment by inaba
    03:01 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Zun must be proud. :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    He just wanted to get dunk, people. Not rich.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    09:53 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Last time I heard he wasn't really happy about how the fans depict the characters he created.. Hopefully i'm wrong because that sucks if he really do.

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    Comment by moqadmodar
    03:27 25/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    He aint getting richer though

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:51 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    @Maidniac
    He actually uses fan depictions of characters then use it as official. That's probably why it got so popular. Because fans can do whatever cool shit they want with the characters and ZUN just makes it official, making the fans officially contributing to Touhou.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:45 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, he did say that anybody can use it as long as they acknowledge him back. I don't think he had any intention of making himself rich from touhou lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:11 26/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    also did remember him saying he made this to be fan friendly

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:39 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I couldn't say better my self,anon3.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:13 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    did not remember he saying he wanted to get rich.

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    Comment by Actar
    02:49 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.9)

    Touhou vs Fujoshi. Whoever wins, we lose.

    ...coming to cinemas this Fall.

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    Comment by Firetribe
    04:51 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Alien Vs Jason reference.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    03:11 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't understand how this is judged so equally with the fujoshi exactly... how do we know all of them are yaoi beyond Hetalia (which even has some females in it from what I understand)? Granted it's a large chunk, but that still doesn't explain to me how they came to that decision. Granted I'm probably missing some kind of information :)

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    Comment by patamon
    05:27 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Sure, Hetalia has female characters (like three or something? I don't pay much attention to the show/fandom), but the fangirls just like to obsess over all the male characters instead, so there might as well just not be any females at all.

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    Comment by Shivann
    10:57 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Hetalia actually has about..7 or 8 female characters plus all the 'Nyotalia' versions (Genderbend of most of the male characters); there's enough hentai and yuri, but yes, those circles are probably mostly dedicated to yaoi..

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    Comment by The REAL Lamberto
    08:48 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Touhou vs Fujoshi. If fujoshi win, we RIOT!!!

    Fix'd

    C'mon Touhou fans, kick some fujoshi asses.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:11 26/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    FUJOSHIS MUST be kick down

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I guess you haven't seen most of the shows on that list, or else you would know :)

    Hetalia – Speaks for itself

    Basara – Engrish bishounen riding horses

    Reborn – Main male cast filled with idiots

    Gintama – Sexy silver perms and badass jp history parody characters

    Prince of Tennis – Shota playing tennis

    Inazuma Eleven – Ultra shota soccer players show

    Durarara - Interesting sexy male cast

    Gundam 00 – Ore wa Fujoshi.. uhh Gundam da

    Code Geass – For the skinny guy fetishists

    Could have missed some, but count just these and you're already over 4000.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    18:52 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Apparently, Big Windup! has a huge fujoshi following.

    And I can't imagine all the under-aged yaoi fuel Inazuma Eleven truly has. Since it's like 99% male characters..

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac
    10:57 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Err.. seriously, did everyone actually mistook the comment as me being a yaoi fangirl? I merely just state out how fujoshi would react to those franchise. Don't believe me? Go to Deviantart and simply type down a journal about those pairings. In less than an hour, you'll get the same exact reaction.

    PS: This came from the one and only person in the universe who despise Sebastian Mikaelis. I do adore Shizuo though.

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    Comment by The REAL Lamberto
    10:27 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    You know you need to calm your yaoiness down. I never thought you'd say something like that, and that's so out-of-character of you. No disrespect but Victorique doesn't like the fact that some of her loyal fans like yaoi.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac

    NARUTO – Sasuke-x-Naruto, squeel squeel.

    FMA – Mustang violating Ed, squeel squeel.

    Big Windup! – Boys playing baseball, squeel squeel.

    BLEACH – Ichigo-x-Renji-x-Hitsugaya-x-etc, squeel squeel.

    Yea, that's what I can think of seeing those titles up there..

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:54 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    shonen manga is for big girl

    Comment by Anonymous

    ". Granted I'm probably missing some kind of information :)"

    Considering this is Sankaku, realy, news items missing some information is more common than daylight...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:35 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @anon 12:28:
    Most people don't automatically assume a predominantly male cast leads to "Yamete, Oshiri Itai". Yet when most fujoshi think and make that happen, other decent folks can't help but wonder if history's gonna repeat itself.

    Also, I think there might be a couple of so wicked fujoshi out there who'll turn anything into BL.
    Something like "Touhou futa (blech) taken a step further".

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    Comment by HouseLife
    03:42 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hence my admission ^^ But considering the source is 2ch, it's like secondhand retardation.

    Sankaku would actually be an incredible location for a social study of misunderstanding actually. Someone could easily derive thesis material from Artefact and 2ch conspiring to make sure everyone's an idiot.

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    Comment by VillainousHanacha
    06:23 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @House Life

    It's not just Hetalia.

    It's Basara and Reborn too. Basara has a rather large periphery demographic of women due to it's character designs and majority of males over females. And Reborn is another in the long line of Shounen that attract a lot of female fans due to it's character designs, and the close relationships of the male cast (Kuroshitsuji, Inuyasha and Yu Yu Hakusho are/were in similar boats for similar reasons).

    There are others fujoshi have a love of on this list as well, but I'm giving attenttion to the ones I said because those are the top 3 if you exclude Touhou, and because I don't feel like creating a massive text wall like I normally do.

    Avatar of Shizu's Waki Obsessor: MaidNiac

    I still find it kinda amusing in an odd way how Reborn has evolved into one of the top fujoshi/BL franchise.. considering the initial chapters actually were all about the main guy trying to date a girl in his class who he had a crush with.. and running amok in boxer shorts.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Reborn was never anywhere near BL. People seem to think that attractive male characters automatically make a manga BL. The artist has never catered to any sort of BL behavior or fandom (unlike the artists of Naruto or Code Geass.)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:33 25/07/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.7)

    I hate TouHou and I hate "Hetalia" even more. Glad I'm a Horror, FanService, MOE loving anime fan.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:59 25/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    >MOE loving
    >I hate TouHou
    >does not compute

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    Comment by Alexeon
    02:45 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    I want me some Nanoha doujins...

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    Comment by moqadmodar
    03:26 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Nanoha yeaaaaahhhhh

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    Comment by Actar
    02:49 25/07/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Me too! There were scores when I went to Comiket 77. So much so that I believe a whole section of a hall was devoted to nothing but Nanoha.

    But I guess that could have been attributed to the movie.

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    Comment by Spectre
    13:53 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wish I lived in Japan. T_T

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:49 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    what do you mean by scores?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:24 26/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    scores as in lots

    Comment by Anonymous

    Well there are 370 there. I'm sure only 368 of them are granny porn.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:04 25/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    More like 368 of them will be girls chastely holding hands and blushing at each other. The other two will be granny porn.

    Comic 1-5 had jack shit for Nanoha doujinshi. I'm amazed there's still this much at Comiket.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:06 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh right, you're right there.

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    Comment by loli in a box
    06:25 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, most of it won't be porn at all, but "girls chastely holding hands and blushing at each other."

    It's just that porn is more likely to get scanned and put on the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:21 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nah, he's right, the porn is more likely to get scanned, and even a good portion of the porn will remain unscanned.

    If you start looking into buying doujinshi on Toranoana, MelonBooks, or Mandarake, you'll find a lot that you won't be able to find scans for. And those are ones that can still be purchased; things that sold out extremely fast might even be less likely to have been scanned because no one got two copies so they could destroy one to share with people on the Internet.

    There are a lot of factors that go into it, like the cheap cost of books, the fact that people are less likely to pirate stuff that people are basically selling for cost anyway, and much more. A big one though, is that people outside of Japan (especially the large number that can't read Japanese) are interested in porn and not in what are essentially fan fiction comics or comedy that won't even be funny if someone bothers to translate them.

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    Comment by Yasuo
    07:31 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure all of it is scanned and put up on the internet. The porn is just all we look for.

    Not me personally, but, then, I barely know what nanoha is.

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    Comment by loli in a box
    02:53 25/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Haha, Nanoha, constantly producing yuri doujinshi since 2004 and no sight of stopping.

    You can categorize Comiket like this:

    1) Fujoshi
    2) Touhou
    3) Nanoha
    4) Popular anime of the last months: K-On!, Madoka etc

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:30 17/02/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who you're lying to?
    Fujoshi comes last u prick.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:50 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't really mind it

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    Comment by Wertyxious
    06:44 25/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Well Touhou is the best thing ever created afterall, so no surprise there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Fujoshi have always been a major part of Comiket, as Japanese women typically have more free time than men. Even with the rise of unemployed NEETS and working women becoming more common, this holds true. Also, with the exception of Crap-talia, fujoshi have better series to work with-- OH SNAP

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    Comment by Shivann
    11:25 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Is for fujoshi to decide what series is better for them to work with, and if 1302 circles decided to work with Hetalia, what do you care?
    If you were around Pixiv you would see Hetalia fans also like and work with other series, like Durarara, Sengoku Basara, Tiger&Bunny, and even Inazuma Eleven, among others i can't remember atm.






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