A major accident on China’s much trumpeted new high speed rail system has prompted the inevitable “China quality” denunciations online.

The train derailed crossing a bridge, with two carriages falling off the bridge into the river below. Rail authorities claim a “lightning strike” was responsible, causing a train to lose power on the bridge, only to be smashed into by another train approaching from behind.




Initial reports indicate at least 11 fatalities and 89 injured; each carriage had a capacity of 100.

China has been accused of flagrantly pirating Japan’s Shinkansen, even going so far as to sell the copies overseas, and the father of its high speed rail program has been arrested for massive corruption – all facts which have resulted in massive schadenfreude in Japan, although there is some disappointment that no explosions were involved:

“It’s here!”

“China quality, as ever…”

“Independently developed.”

“Do some inspections!”

“There were no earthquakes or anything and it still derailed?”

“That was quick.”

“Weren’t they supposed to be more advanced than Japanese trains?”

“I hope there are no fatalities.” [casualty figures were not yet released]

“If there was anyone on that train you can bank on there being dozens dead.”

“From Japanese TV:”

china-bullet-train-accident-006“She’s half smiling…”

“So it derailed before it could explode.”

“What kind of track are they using…”

“Will they sue Kawasaki and JR East for damages?”

“This is a huge accident, isn’t it?”

“This is horrible.”

“They’re selling this stuff overseas?”

“Honestly, I didn’t expect something this bad.”

“Has one exploded yet?”

“China isn’t really ready for high speed rail.”

“There is no way China is going to be able to maintain these systems safely.”

“This is the beta version. The Chinese can count themselves lucky the bugs are being caught early on.”

“Was there a problem with the bridge?”

“If there was you really can’t laugh about this…”

“High speed rail is too much for China at this time.”

“You can’t just copy trains like that – they’re missing the ability to manage and maintain the system.”

“The Japanese ones have never derailed except in one major earthquake and the only fatality the system ever experienced was from someone getting trapped in a door.”

“Maybe the rails exploded and threw the train off the tracks?”

“Nobody is going to buy their trains after seeing this.”

“It was one of these:”

china-bullet-train-accident-007“It could not have derailed in a worse possible place.”

“This is a major accident!”

“My prayers are with the departed. They died for political reasons, and even Japan has TEPCO so you can’t laugh about something like this.”

“I expect they are going to try and cover this up and minimise it.”

“Well, it hasn’t exploded yet so they are doing well, for China.”

“We can only pray that not too many people perished. Rest in peace…”

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    Avatar of omimon
    Comment by omimon
    02:07 24/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    The comments from the Japanese weren't as horrible as I would have thought. Really shows how classy they are compared to Americans when they lose a soccer game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:41 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.1)

    Sorry, the only reason they seemd nicer is because the entry poster didn't cherry pick the worst racist comments like he did for the soccer response. In fact, he probably did the opposite.

    And it doesn't help that most of the visitors here are gullible Japanese illiterate who relies on 2nd hand spoon fed informations, instead of doing their own readings on Japanese forums.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:21 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    The original post at least cites something. You don't. Therefore, your assertions are what's full of shit here until further documentation is provided.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:05 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Okay here are some disgusting comments I personally cherry picked just for you from Yahoo Japan news comments. Note this isn't even from the notorious xenophobic 2ch.

    "Plenty of people in Sina, 35 isn't nearly enough."

    "Divine retribution for claiming somebody else's technology is yours."

    "A country filled with idiots, this can't be helped."


    "The train's so fast, it even kills people fast."

    See? I do can trash any country's reputation by quoting idiotics shit their lowest members posted.

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    Comment by Alexeon
    02:54 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    But its more entertaining than FOX so its okay. :D

    Comment by Anonymous

    What kinda stupid logic is that? There has been plenty of other entries here that were filled with Japanese xenophobic racist comments when it happens to be related to the subject matter.

    Plus the fact the entry doesn't even site the source the comments were from. I'm sorry but if you actually think this site is a good source for unbiased and balanced news story, you're about as stupid as those who watches FOX News and think it's unbiased.

    Though, incidently this site happens to have about as much credibility as FOX News.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:58 24/07/2011 # ! Drivel (-0.8)

    ok, i'll claim that your mom is a whore based on the comments supposely from two of her childhood neighbors.

    there, i just cited something and thus your mom is a whore.

    Avatar of Dia
    Comment by Dia
    14:41 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Surely it would be a waste of time to read 2ch even if you knew Japanese.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:56 26/08/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    but it can be fun :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:21 29/08/2013 # ! Neutral (0)

    you got a point... but we sancomers dont want a point
    we only want like-minded opinions, DOWN VOTED!

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:12 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    given that people died in the train crash and many japanese laughed about it or used humor it shows that japan too has very low quality people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:44 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is the Internet we're talking about. Everywhere and its neighbor is full of loudfingered douchebags here.

    On the other hand, when you take into account that Japan's like, the technological capital of the world...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:08 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. Unless it's a few American posting stupid crap online, it suddenly means the whole United States is populated with racist inbred fucks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:17 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The first train was hit by a lightning bolt.
    Didn't the Korean sports team use that excuse last week?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:48 02/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    it also shows a class difference between the Chinese and Japanese....... *refers back to the fisherman incident where a chinese fisherboat captain was announced hero for slamming his boat into a JPnese military vessel* =_+

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    Comment by Shima-kun989
    13:24 13/08/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    if you look at it from a historical viewpoint, japan, china, and korea have been at each others necks for the past 1500 years

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:39 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was thinking the same. There are not as aphatic as I thought.

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    Comment by kazaza2
    02:40 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    The one thing you can't pirate is quality.
    The whole idea of pirating is to do it on the cheap.

    It's sad that innocent people have to die because of a fucked up government and probable corruption.

    03:34 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Quantity over quality china policy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    1.3 billion minus 11, i don't think the gov really cares... at least not financially

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    Comment by Ota-Kool
    06:08 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Yeah just their milk product Quantity tainted full of Melamine! LOL!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:14 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    China quality died the moment communist thugs took over. Modern Chinese society pretty much betrayed everything China once believed in and lived by.

    I'm sorry to say. As much as Taiwan doesn't wanna get associated with China. In reality, they're the one carrying on the true Chinese spirit now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:57 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Was about to say.

    They call themselves communist, but the Chinese government really doesn't fit that bill anymore.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:48 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pride of ethnicity is never good. Culture and economy on ther other hand is fine...just as long as you don't become overly arrogant which can lead to all sorts of hypocrisy.

    Anyway here's what is ironic about the commies getting into power. They were actually close to being wiped out by guerilla forces and opposition a little before and early WWII. But Thanks to the Japanese back then and their "libertation" as they called it of China, the guerilla forces were pretty much wiped out. Allowing the commies to make a comeback.

    Now they're communist in name only and they're more capitalist than ever.

    Comment by Anonymous

    If you look at the percentage of people who survive riding their trains versus the percentage who are killed, the number of fatalities barely even registers!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:59 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    From what I know train accidents, especially ones involving highspeed trains, usually have an immensely high fatality rate.

    Looking at the pictures, and considering the carriages can seat 100 people each, 11 deaths has to be an understatement unless there were very few people inside.

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    Comment by Conduit
    08:56 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly when it comes to places like China, you can automaticly assume the, "official" numbers reported by the news is an out right lie and only a fraction of the actual death toll.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Chinese trains and rails are more advanced than japanese or even german . They 've the best rail network on the world .

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:00 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    china? advanced?
    oh. god...
    japan, france and germany have world most advanced technology in railways&trains....

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:44 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Yeah, they're more advanced. Their trains don't even need rails anymore! Nor do they even need to reach their destination! Now that's what I call China Quality progress.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Was your detector made in China too?

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    Comment by Gitami
    18:23 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's that sound?

    Holy shit my sarcasm detector just exploded!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:12 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    well, in videogames, often times the pirate copy is higher quality (drm free, no constant internet needed) than the retail version.

    it really all depends on how good the pirates are that determine the quality. are they pirateing everything down to the last detail, or are they just going for the look?

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    Comment by konakona
    23:50 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why did people even attempt to ride a pirated high speed train to begin with? >_>

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    Comment by entropy13
    02:05 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    China quality indeed. There aren't any way to inform other trains that one train stopped? No central management system in place, to see them?

    Heck not even a simple, battery-powered radio to inform other trains that they've stopped, and if you're on the same line, you better stop as well?

    As always, Epic Fail. Made in China.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:38 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Another successful failure.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    03:10 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.5)

    “So it derailed before it could explode.”

    Guess everyone's waiting for this.
    God, I hope there's no one on board when it happens...

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    Comment by denn
    09:42 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    “So it derailed before it could explode.”

    If they would only have hired Michael Bay...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:27 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thats oxymoronic^^

    Comment by Anonymous

    This was really quick!!

    But I was expecting explosions, lets do it better so we can see them explode!

    Avatar of Azn-Persuasion
    Comment by Azn-Persuasion

    It was so fast it went in slo-motion heh heh how's that.........not good?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.3)

    They did report that the train was struck by lightning ya know. You can't really have magnetism on the track if it took thousands of watts of electricity and the connection could have also short-circuited making unusable. You know,it's not a good idea to make fun of the dead even if you hate there race. If you can't feel at least a little bit of empathy for the victims of the crash, you will be better off being a heartless murderer.

    Avatar of kazaza2
    Comment by kazaza2
    03:32 24/07/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    @ Anon 03:16

    They don't have lightning storms in Japan?

    Give me a break!

    By the way I don't hate the Chinese people only their stupid fucking government.

    Avatar of TC-man
    Comment by TC-man
    08:53 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    This has more to do with extreme bad luck in combination with poor safety measures rather than quality of the trains, besides trains have been hit by lightning in other countries (e.g. UK or USA); as always these kinds of accident happened because people were being careless, nothing more and nothing less.

    Avatar of Azn-Persuasion
    Comment by Azn-Persuasion

    ^^ it is china quality ya know,like u said earlier u cannot pirate quality and the problem was probably quality. If ya don't believe what the dude said tell me what u think.^^

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    Comment by Butters
    03:49 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    There were two train involved, first train stop due to power lost by lighning strike. Second train hit the first train from behide at speed cause this accident. poor communication, safety, and management. Something like this would never happens in other countries when their priorty is about keeping people safe.

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    Comment by TC-man
    08:44 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eh, I am sure there are quite major accidents with trains too here in the west with superior safety rules. I also hear about the lightning hitting the first train which cause it to stop while the second one hit the first train from behind. This has nothing to do with the quality of the trains itself, more with unfortune/bad luck. And the people who made jokes about this incident/accident, go to hell, people have died here, even when they are Chinese they are still people like you and me!

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    Comment by entropy13
    03:43 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why do the replies to my comment not really related to what I've just said?

    "They did report that the train was struck by lightning ya know."

    You mean the state media reported the train involved in the accident getting struck by lightning. What I meant is that the other (second) train who collided with the immobilized train should have gotten information about the stationary train immediately after it (the first train getting struck by lightning and forced to stop) happened to avoid the collision in the first place.

    "You can't really have magnetism on the track if it took thousands of watts of electricity and the connection could have also short-circuited making unusable."

    Another irrelevant point, all I said is some simple measures would have avoided this from happening (talking about the collision obviously) in the first place.

    "You know,it's not a good idea to make fun of the dead even if you hate there (sic) race."

    Uh, yeah. So criticizing their lack of measures to avoid such events in the first place is "making fun of the dead" now?

    "If you can't feel at least a little bit of empathy for the victims of the crash, you will be better off being a heartless murderer."

    Uh, yeah. So criticizing their lack of measures to avoid such events in the first place means I "can't feel at least a little bit of empathy" and I'd be "better off being a heartless murderer" now?

    EDIT: Anon(873887) - See ryusoma's comment for further enlightenment.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:57 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude, you might as well have just admitted that you're from China. I've never seen anyone in these comments make a racist comment about Chinese people, and the comment you're referring to certainly didn't either. This is a political/social problem in China, not a inherent problem with the Chinese race. So I've said it many times before, and I think its never been more fitting or true then now, EPIC - CHINA - FAIL.

    You know, you know... you know, you know, you know... dumbass.

    Comment by Anonymous

    They aren't even maglev trains. SO WTF has "magnetism" got to do with it? FUCKING RETARD.

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    Comment by Mauvais
    17:25 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    China has once again played a bittersweet joke on itself, and it's sad that innocent commuters paid the price for it. Don't be so quick to buy the lightning excuse though; talk about thinly veiled lies.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yes, I'm sure it was struck by lightning. Just like I'm sure the North Korean women's team were struck by lightning and just happened to test positive for illegal substances "due to the lightning strike". It's not like china has a reputation for poor quality and north korea has a reputation for doing anything and everything to promote nationalism including cheating. Nothing to see here folks. Move along...

    Comment by Anonymous

    This is the stupidest comment ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:24 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    So you don't think it's wrong for people to die.

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    Comment by Azn-Persuasion
    03:41 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Anon 3:16 is right you know, it's not cool to point and laugh at recently departed peeps

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:09 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Not making fun of the dead, just the morons that caused the disaster.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Pretty funny for the Japs to hate on the Chinese after everything they have done to them during WW2. Some people never learn the first time around I guess.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 24/07/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Don't go moralizing... If you think there is a country that hasn't done wrong to another in a WAR, you're an idiot.

    And why the hell do people keep bringing up stuff from half a century ago? It's pathetic. Don't go blaming people about something their fathers or grandfathers have done.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:42 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    "Don't go blaming people about something their fathers or grandfathers have done." Right, seems like someone forgot that 70% of japan consists of 90 year old zombies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    You mean it's pretty funny for the chinks to have failed to properly rip this technology off from the Japanese and try to sell this garbage off to other countries.

    I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but I think a more appropriate expression of dismissal in this instance is to tell you to go ride a chinky train.

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    Comment by sweetdart
    03:41 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Chinese proverb

    "We have met the enemy and they are us".

    Appologies to Pogo! ;)

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:06 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 3:37 & 3:42

    Yeah...say the to the Jewish community at large.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:03 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 03:48

    Well typical response for racist asshat english speaker. I guess members don't hide the fact they support racist fucks. Well done Sankaku members. Deny how much you want members, but denial must be your fortei.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:25 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who are the "they" and who are the "them"

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:05 25/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is indeed weird. Normally, with segment signals in place, and with them decently spaced, the following train conductor should have had time to brake.

    But nowadays, I guess traffic could get tight either near stations or on bridges with few lanes.

    Keep in mind a highspeed train needs more than a mile to come to a halt. Possibly several.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:26 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry dude but not always thats working ... better look at US train accidents and then talk ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:46 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm just wondering, how is it that they're not wearing shirts? If you're involved in a train crash do you have to take your shirt as a safety measure? Or was the crash too intense that their shirts exploded?

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    Comment by Gitami
    18:31 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Those places are hot even at night especially now that it's summer.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:55 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe he was on the can when it cra... okay, nevermind. Actually, those guys were probably asleep, if it was late at night.

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    Comment by Conduit
    08:59 24/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Considering China's track record on safe construction, its likely the trains skimp out on numerous safety features and redundencies.

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