Metal Gear Solid 3DS Ideal vs Actuality

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Solid Snake fans are lamenting the yawning gulf between the highly promising preview images of Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D(S) and the actual gameplay images.

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That promotional images of games should never be believed has sadly never been more true.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    01:16 04/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    CRAB BATTLE!

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    Comment by Ota-Kool

    Come to think about it at this pic
    http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/safe-ix/metal-gear-solid-3ds-comparison-1.jpg

    He looks like Patchy The Pirate
    http://images.wikia.com/spongebob/images/e/e2/Patchy-the-pirate-1.jpg

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    Comment by Megidola
    00:59 04/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Visuals aren't so solid after all...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    More like the visuals aren't so naked...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:05 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You guys have not been given the naked truth, most of you all think this is solid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:37 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Liquid must be taking over again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:24 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I see what you did there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:34 04/06/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I didn't see what eater of them did...

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 08/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, didn't work so well

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    Comment by S|e|7|e|N
    01:12 04/06/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    Another marketing Gimmick (3D) fails to deliver.
    Big surprise.

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    03:59 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And it turns out 3DS can make a woman grows a double chin.

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    Comment by TC-man
    08:33 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Em, the problem is not the 3D, but the downgrade of the graphics of the game from last year to the current graphics of MGS 3DS. The better looking MGS 3DS demo from last year did run on an actual 3DS hardware, so there's no reason the graphics looks sub PS2-ish. The real problem is Konami who skimps on the 3DS version, and announced the PS3 and Xbox360 HD remakes of MGS including MGS 3.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Yeah, its not like we trust gaming consoles anymore... PSN's success, 360's RROD, 3DS' success in delivering what was in the ad... PC's BSOD

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    Comment by freezero
    02:15 04/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    whats BSOD? help a noob in need :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:05 04/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    BSOD never occurs on XP unless you can't use a PC in which case you spend a fortune on a mac that will be obsolete after 3 years since purchase and then all you have left is going around and bragging that you can't get viruses and have no BSOD, because you can't do anything else on a machine incapable of running anything other than expensive Mac-ready programs and shitty Windows emulators.

    "Mac has better performance than PC" arguments are invalid, once you have to use an emulator to run a program, the performance drops to very low levels and you suck penis anyway because you're dumb enough to buy something three times more expensive than a PC with better components than your smelly mac, and you can then buy new components for your PC to keep it up-to-date cheaper than having to pay another fortune for a new mac or having to pay apple 'technicians' to remove some screws and stick a new card in. Try to do it yourself and your warranty is fucking void, "go suck a dick, we don't care that you paid us three thousand dollars" is what you'll hear from apple workers. Fuck, you can't even clean the dust from the inside, you just wait for your mac to spontaneously combust unless you're willing to pay technicians half a fortune to clean it.

    After buying an apple product, you end up looking like a posh dumbass who can't make intelligent decisions when it comes to buying things. And you probably would end up lost in Walmart if you had the chance, because it's bigger than your overpriced crap-filled mac shop and there's noone to lead you out of there by hand unless you decide to play mentally disabled, which can be avoided, just approach a security officer and say "I own a macintosh computer" and they'll know that you have three brain tumors, herpes and eyelid cancer and will promptly help you get out of the store to never let you in again.

    I have no fucking idea why I ended up rambling about macs. Please forgive me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:24 04/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    Blue Screen Of Death? The fatal error blue screen.

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    Comment by Iskra
    02:20 04/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Blue Screen of Death

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:40 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Running games well these days... with last year's budget graphics card.
    The second-generation core i#/Sandy Bridge iMacs have a re-labelled desktop 5850 as their most powerful graphics option.
    Compare this to the monstrous 2560x1440 resolution that the 27" iMac has... and well, you're going to be stuck playing at some upscaled low-res like a console gamer.

    I do agree though, Macs do not need emulators to run PC programs - you just need a retail copy of Windows.

    The OS is acceptable, but it took far longer for 64 bit versions of Adobe's creative suite because good old Steve-o messed with the development of the Carbon 64 API.

    Nowadays there is a 64 bit version for Macs, but back then, anyone who said "I bought a Mac because it's better for Photoshop." would get a smirk followed by full out uncontrollable laughter from me. The only part that consistently makes Macs more accepted for graphics work is their high quality panels- and you can get those for your PC (PC doesn't mean windows. Most of the -serious- work goes down with a linux box and a windows box next to each other.)

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:26 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Above annon is pure biased fanboy crap. I use both any both are fine. If you get BSOD [and/or can't fix it] you don't know how to use your computer for shit; if you customize it. Mac is fine if your gonna do pretty much a basic thing and wan't better battery life (laptop-wise). Otherwise if it's a tower or anything else I'd rather go with PC. And most piece of shit that manufacturers make like HP and Dell are worthless; mainly their laptops.

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    Comment by D.TryPleX
    05:09 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    All he asked for was what BSoD meant, take your MAC vs Windows discussion somewhere else >.>

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:10 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    agree Mac is overprice, but not the way annon above puts it. That is some pretty uninformed bias bullcrap.

    But mac isn't better because: it no longer runs it's own hardware. It's intel cpu and nvidia gfx card. And that's ever since OSx. Technically,u can say the only difference is the OS.

    OSx itself isn't free of bug. instead of BSOD, u get Rainbow of death. Which is even MORE annoying cuz it just hangs there and doesn't tell u what the error is.

    now with that, the extra money is going to the case and design. And for that, Alienware and other case designs offers better options in the same price range.

    then there's the "color's more accurate on Mac" thing. Which, 1 if u rn't gonna print anything with color often, the accuracy from screen to print is pointless. And that can also be done on a PC with a color calibration software.IF u do all that on the PC with similar performance, it's still not as pricy as a mac. And if u custom build one the warranty on a custom PC r by the parts u bought, not the whole thing.

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    Comment by yaku
    08:55 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    tl;dr: if you are somewhat savvy with PCs (or try not to mess up with it), then either one will do just fine.

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    Comment by Imyou
    04:18 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Actually, Macs don't need emulators to run PC programs. In my experience, they're quite capable hardware-wise of running games well these days, and the hardware will last at least 3 years. The software on the other hand, when a new version of MacOS drops, you MUST buy it and upgrade, or you'll never upgrade anything else, since everything from that point on will be made for the newest OS version.

    The OS is nice - it's about comparable to Windows now, really - just a matter of knowing where to find things.

    And you're right about looking dumb with one. It's a pity, because if you overlook the 300% markup Apple tax, they are nice machines to use. When I had one, I wanted to hide the logo though so people didn't think I bought into the whole "no viruses on Macs" and other spurious BS.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    they were shit long before that. reliability took a nose dive after the death of SNES & N64. the lasers failed in PS1s constantly and the PS2slim used a shit laser too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:15 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not true IF you hadn't used pirate copies written on shitty DVD's. My not modded PS2 slim works just fine after 5 years of playing... Crappy lasers were in Dreamcast, I don't know a person whose never broke.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:14 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I like how in the second pic gameplay screens from 3DS are compared to PR-shots for PS2. Look at the first couple of pics there - PS2 obviously pretends to be HD, while in real life it was a blurry mess.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:05 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    3DS has been sucking in the graphics department. The same thing goes for Ocarina of Time 3DS. The graphics for that game could be much more better but I still think they don't do OoT justice. So MGS3DS is no surprise I guess. I wish Nintendo would release a console that is powerful and innovative. Sony and Microsoft are powerful but not innovative. Nintendo Innovative but not powerful.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:12 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The 3DS graphics aren't going to be up to console standards. Because a large chunk of it is going into the 3D itself. It's not like the 3DS isn't powerful, it's just that the power has been redistributed to something else rather than "GR4PH1C5".

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    Comment by Adrian Dolata
    06:52 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Guys, remember that the MGS3D shown at E3 2010 still is a tech demo, and the full game is a remake of a PS2 game. Why would they put so many resources into updating a PS2 game to almost MGS4 fidelity. It's the same as with the HD remakes of old PS2 games for the PS3.

    It's fair. This doesn't mean that what we're seeing is the limit of the 3DS. They are going to make a game specifically for the 3DS sooner or later, then we're talking.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:59 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    ...Dude, most people here are Sony fanboys. They'll resort to anything to belittle Nintendo and Microsoft at every oppurtunity.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your delusional and close minded. Anyone that goes against MS or Nintendo is a Sony fanboy? Riiiggght....

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:53 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Belittle Microsoft? What, did you think I was visiting this site on my ps3?

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    Comment by TC-man
    08:36 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well, Capcom did make Resident Evil Remake for the Gamecube which looked so much better than the PSone's version of RE1; even today RE Remake looks great. So it really depends on the developer whether he has the dedication and effort to do the remake.

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    Comment by cats2
    10:05 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    1: put "EXCUSE" into google.
    2: search
    3: ????
    4: Laugh at this mother fucker.

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    Comment by CoolServbot
    08:42 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't see whats the big deal... Still looks great on the 3DS to me. Also you cannot compare game made late in a consoles life cycle to a game made early in another's life cycle.

    Obviously MGSPW had the advantage of being made after developers gotten a hand of the PSP's graphical capabilities. Being an original game also helps. While MGS3SN 3D is a port of an older game, plus the 3DS is a very new console. Don't expect games to look extremely pretty just yet... Although by what we've already seen with Dead or Alive : Dimensions, the graphics are already of high quality.

    *Wait a sec... Isn't that a screenshot of a pre-rendered scene for PSP screenshot of MGSPW!?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:33 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Graphics doesnt really matter, we do want more ram and memeory in handhelds to support larger stages.
    FPS stages in Psp and NDS is horrible small, due to lack of memory and we run into invisible walls real quick.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:17 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    If graphics really mattered, the DS would not have outsold the PSP, and the Wii would not have outsold the PS3.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:34 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    and no one even bother to mention that this might be kojima's plan after all?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    shit graphics are always the trade off for the fancy 3D effect, as the system has to work twice as hard or produce half it's maximum output because the images have to be doubled as individual frames.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:15 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The PSP example is a fake! It's not really gameplay video but just a trailer of this game running on PC, how I noticed that? Snake never open his mouth in the real game. and cut scenes always use just drawing, in the actuall gameplay Snake graphic is way simple than that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:24 04/06/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I played Peace Walker and Snake opens his mouth.
    In the cutscene where you fight the Hidden Boss and at the Speech Big Boss made.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:13 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah... but that's a cutscene, which defeats the purpose of the argument.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:23 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was a realtime techdemo runned on 3ds hardware .

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:40 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    You argue that the MGS3DS render above is gameplay, but it isn't.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:27 05/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    it is REALTIME cutscene, so if the purpose is to prove that the 3ds aint much more powerfull than a PSP i believe the point is clear, and Peace Walker on the PSP has some amazing graphics, and yes ive yet to seen a 3ds game anywhere near some of those early "photos" of supposed gameplay graphics, especially those of the resident evil game (ive also dont really believe that the NGP would be able to pull whats been seen up till now)

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:12 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is not fake.

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    Comment by Reo
    01:01 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    many game was like
    "The more future it is, the more complicated it is."

    I just bought a PSP and a NDS LL recently, anyone know any good Galge for it?
    I just bought only Busou Shinki for PSP and Love Plus+ for NDS LL.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:02 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I liked toradora, hayate no gotoku nightmare paradise, higurashi (its called daybreak i think),mgs pw, mgs po, one of the macross frontier games (dont remember wich one it was, two of them arnt that good), both haruhi games (especially the new one is amazing), ore no imouto ga konna ni kawaii wake ga nai (and ex), the sora no otoshimono game and to love-ru on the psp... they are all japanese exept for the two mgs titles, but you'd probably find them on amazon.co.jp.

    If you're into galge you should stick to the pc though... theres alot of really good games recently, for example last years Love Kami or last months Cure Girl...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:31 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well some recomendations:

    PSP: Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles, Final Fantasy IV Complete, MGS: Portable Ops and Peace Walker, Megaman Powered Up and Megaman Maverick Hunter X. Also the Project Diva games and the K ON! one are quite fun, but you have to order them (or DL them). That's a good start.

    DS: Castlevania (all 3 available), Fire Emblem (series don't disappoint), and Megaman ZX is not as awesome as good old Megaman games, but it's pretty good and has awesome OST.

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    Comment by TC-man
    08:47 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    PSP: all the PSP exclusives like Gran Turismo Portable, Motor Storm: Arctic Edge, God of War series, Lumines I and II; others are Monster Hunter 3rd, Disgaea 1 & 2 (the Japanese audio track has been kept in the US versions!), God Eater Burst, and many other jrpg like Final Fantasy tactics, Ogre Battle.

    DS: All the NDS exclusives, like Mario and Zelda games, Advance Wars, Space Invaders Extreme (surprisingly fun and addictive!), Warioware, Rhythm Heaven, Dragon Quest 9.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:25 04/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Disgaea 1 is actually better on NDS because of some more features and Prinny's commentary.
    And don't bother with Gran Turismo on PSP - it's much, much worse than stationary versions, it's too arcade.

    And for NDS Elite Beat Agents and Okamiden. Also Chinatown Wars is better because of good use of touchscreen.






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