“Family Guy” Producer: “Pearl Harbor > Dead Japanese”

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Joining the ranks of fellow Americans keen to joke about the misfortunes of the yellow races or ascribe racial guilt to the Japanese for Pearl Harbor/whaling/non-whiteness, Family Guy producer and writer Alec Sulkin has been caught pointing out that Japanese deaths don’t matter as their ancestors once bombed a naval base at Pearl Harbor.

That the comment was made on Twitter hardly requires explanation:

“If you wanna feel better about this earthquake in Japan, google ‘Pearl Harbor death toll.’”

He soon deleted the joke and offered the usual trite apology for getting caught.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    22:11 15/03/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I didnt know americans whined about pearl harbour... That is shameful.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:51 16/03/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    That's it, we don't. I haven't seen a large amount of hate or anything towards Japan until now. It's really weird.

    Most of the time people like Japan and hate China. :/

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:16 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you are gona bring up the past, how about what them white boys did to China, burning down half of Beijing and all that? What about the millions of African slaves, who up till recently were still discriminated against?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:34 16/03/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    The dead in Pearl Harbour were almost exclusively military dead. Few civilians were killed, which kinda makes the American reprisal bombings a bit iffy morally.

    In addition I like how people complain about Black Slavery when it was blacks themselves who sold the slaves to White merchants. Also people seem to forget the millions of WHITE slaves captured by Berber Pirates in the Mediterranean for centuries

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    Comment by DarkChaplain
    08:24 16/03/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    What about exterminating whole civilisations? What about raiding other countries for their ressources?

    And what about throwing two nuclear weapons onto Japan?

    Now I'd like to see how the world would be pissed off by america..

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:41 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    You sound really ignorant right now Anon 8:34. Black people had black slaves in Africa, and then yes, they were sold to Portugal. But it was Europeans who justified RACE-BASED slavery by judging people with darker skin as less worthy human beings. This issue with race affected race relations in developed nations for centuries after the original African Diaspora. Slavery has existed as long as human beings, but large scale commercial slavery based on race has many different issues attached to it. And to say people shouldn't complain about or acknowledge that terrible time because of its distant roots is absolutely ridiculous of you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:03 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Black Slavery was different than white slavery and whites also took slaves themselves, and manipulated Africans against each other. Black "Slavery" is not deserving of that term.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:02 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    alidan
    12:09

    Cold War, South America, falsely accusing multiple governments of being communists when really they weren't. Then overthrowing said government.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:05 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    >I like how people complain about Black Slavery when it was blacks themselves who sold the slaves to White merchants.
    When a African sold an African slave (Usually, prisoners of WAR) to another African, that slave was an African still.
    When the Africans made the mistake of selling African slaves to the White man, those African slaves became, under the White man's hand, 3/5ths of a taxable property. A non-person stripped of his name, culture, language and history. Advertised around the world by White people as less than animal, incapable of feeling pain, incapable of (and forbidden from, under penalty of death) reading.

    Yes, nearly every culture on Earth has had some form of slavery amongst it's people. However, it was the White man's slave practices during the 1600's that took the worst aspect of human culture and turned it into one of the greatest generational violations of basic human rights in our collective world history.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:53 25/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fat Man & Little Boy = how many dead? 150,000 to 246,000

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:41 24/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @13:31 anon: Apparently you don't know history, or you only listen to what your racist teacher says. Don't you know that the incendiary bombings were planned? Even taking out the bridges to prevent the people from escaping the fire? And the Nukes wich were timed to when the children were going to school to maximize the death toll?

    Japan was already trying to surrender, but the USA refused to acknoledge and used the nukes only as a demonstration to scary the russians. I wonder if Pearl Harbor were worse then Auschwitz.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only chosen because theree were no other city left, everything were razed down.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:27 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pearl harbor death toll? Well what about americas response to this, the air raids + nukes on japan? http://voiceofjapanviatweeting.blogspot.com/2011/03/tokyo-massacre-by-us-air-raid-is.html

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:09 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    where to start..... ok lets start with the easy one, hiroshima and nagasaki had it coming they were military targets in a country that was at war. The very idea of war crimes is childish, war is a brutal ugly thing and frankly the Japanese picked that fight, and none of that has anything to do with the tsunami. I am not sure who thought bringing up misdeeds by Americans (ie slavery etc) would mitigate anything done by anyone else. If you murder someone and go into court with the excuse someone else commited another murder so you thought it was ok, you will end up right in jail with them.
    vietnam.... we didn't so much get our assess kicked as kicked our own assess. In 1970 the vietnam war was all but won the streets of saigon were as safe and calm as any western city. the idea that the nva beat america is akin to the idea that the taliban has tied up america in afganistan these last 10 years. An honest inspection would say we did it to ourselves by not doing what we did to japan and dropping the hammer on them. does this mean a nuke? not necessarily but it does mean at the least using conventional bombs to flatten every tent, rock and camel hump in the way.
    I don't hate the japanese or anyone else but when you are at war you fight to win, and you don't stop until you make the enemy beg you for mercy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:21 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Sandalphon I think you and Anonymous 13:31 are talking about two different bombing missions. I am fairly certain he is referring to the Doolittle raid that was highly ineffective and was done with b-24 bombers to attack japan, not a lot of planes made it to Tokyo to drop their bombs and the journey was so far that each bomb had a very light bomb load. The Doolittle raid is generally considered a psychological warfare raid to show Japan that its cities were not out of reach.

    The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were Horrific but at the end of a long drawn out Bloody war the morality of using a weapon to deter a people who were willing to proudly fight to the death (whole country not just military) doesn't seem that immoral. on a positive note modern nuclear weapons are tuned for more boom less fallout (the fissionable material is consumed instead of spread.) Pearl harbor was a surprise attack on a neutral country.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    14:12 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @13:31 Anon
    "The American reprisal bombings hardly got any civillians at all. They only attacked a few factories..."

    What sillines you say:

    "the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, with roughly half of the deaths in each city occurring on the first day..." "In both cities, most of the dead were civilians."

    Are you going to say those deaths don't count because they were from radiation and not the actual blast?

    And the blast itself flattened half of the city[ies]. Quite far from 'a few factories'.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:46 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow you have the same line of thought as talibans, they think that your civilization needs to end too for similar reasons...

    And how is Vietnam a grey area? Fearing communism, wanting to impose their will on other people, and trying to gain influennce in Europe (by helping the french) the USA took an offensive stance towards the Viet minh and got their asses kicked, even though they dropped more bombs in Vietnam, than all bombs dropped throughout WWII. There's not much to it.

    Comment by Anonymous

    The American reprisal bombings hardly got any civillians at all. They only attacked a few factories. It was mainly done to to scare them and to show them that mainland Japan was not impervious to attack. Personally I think it was just a waste of a few perfectly good planes.

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    Comment by alidan
    12:09 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    DarkChaplain
    08:24

    what civilized country did we destroy?

    and dont name a country where if a woman gets raped, she gets killed or a longer prison sentence than the man who raped her. because that "civilization" needs to end, and new order NEEDS to be established in those regions.

    also dont bring up anything that has to deal with ww2 or earlier, as that crap is so old it may as well be forgotten, culture wise.

    and lastly, dont bother with the bigger dick contest that was Vietnam, thats a whole world of grey area in and of itself.

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    Comment by Ihmhi
    08:26 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've found that 90% of the time's it's people who think like "Gawhd is on our side and this is them slanty-eyes gettin' their what-for!"

    Most of my friends (and myself) are very worried about the whole thing and want to do everything we can to help.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:54 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    well to be fair, china is like the reason that the west coast mostly consists of smog. and we owe china a lot of money, which is a better reason to hate someone than whose great-grandfather killed whom.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:04 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    And none of the smog is because of your own industrial pollution?

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    Comment by TheBeast
    06:00 16/03/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    anon @ 22:11

    "normal" americans don't whine about pearl harbor. the american ancestors got even with the japanese ancestors and all is well between their children. i have no grudge against the japanese people and only see them in a good light with the exception of ishihara.

    i don't always agree with their decisions, but that's because there is a culture difference. no one should go into another country and tell them how to live their lives if every one is generally satisfied.

    i'm keeping a watch on the news to see any new developements. with all the support of japan's freinds and rivals alike, i'm sure she(japan) will be up and running in no time. it's a shame that so many are missing, injured, and dead.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:32 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    So many successful trolls are successful.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:22 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a stupid remark. The modern Japanese aren't responsible for Pearl Harbor or any aspect of WW2. More importantly, even if we were at war with Japan, it would be the Japanese government that is at fault, not the random non-combatants that just want to live out their daily lives. Ignorant people should be lined up along the edge of the grand canyon and executed. Though, we would soon run out of room in the canyon, I fear.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Has there ever been a time when one race, religion, creed, etc hasn't oppressed another?

    It's only a matter of time as to who.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:45 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly! Do you know how much I've been bullied in school by bunch of Koreans that keep whining and bitching about WWII? I mean, it wasn't our generation that was involved in those sorts, why do I have to deal with them?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:23 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is racist on my part but the Korean people seem to be inclined towards holding grudges. It must have something to do with the way they're brought up or their own social or nationalistic values (the american born koreans I know are very prideful about their country). As for the denial of shit like Nanking, most of the Japanese people know about how terrible it is (although in varying amounts of intensity I'll bet with a lot of hard details left out conveniently) and it's already been apologized for, the only people that deny it publicly are a faction of the LDP made of about 100 people.

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    Comment by Sandalphon
    14:32 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, their nation [Korea] was subject to the Chinese and Mongolian empires, and were also bullied by the Japanese empire twice between 1592 and 1598, and later occupied between 1910-1945.

    I would imagine that has something to do with their inclination.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Normal, average people aren't at all responsible for the tactics made during wartime. (With the rare exception, like the Nazi party.) Americans didn't even know what a nuclear weapon was when it was dropped. HOWEVER, in the US they still learn about it in detail. The problem is that Japan ignores its own war crimes, which is why people feel the need to throw it in their faces.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:28 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    i think its funny how white americans are made into war machine monsters.\

    black americans are made in to ignorant rap artist that kill each other (with super abortions)

    Hispanic americans are to busy working on lawns to be political

    every other race/nation is innocent

    japan tried to kill innocent american citizens with plague bombs, cited from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    people say innocent this innocent that look wars happen people die. Grow up.

    If you would stop slandering people who do not see the same situation you do but rather educate them you would stop the weapons of mass ignorance

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:05 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I dunno, the [white] americans love defending annihilating cities for myriad reasons.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:05 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think his point is that Japan likes to play innocent and ignore their previous crimes, while insulting others for lesser crimes that those other countries DO take the time to acknowledge.

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    Comment by yaku
    07:18 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is those usual cases where only a very few extremists will actually hold those kind of discriminatory/racist views, but they cause such a stir that their opinions are heard more than the majority.

    Unfortunately people outside the aforementioned country will usually assume the rest of the population (in this case, Americans) has the same retarded opinion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:32 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why exactly are the Americans getting all the negative attention,i'm sure they aren't the only ones joking so why are we focusing on what they say?I'm pretty sure many people from many countries are saying things like this too...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:42 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Holier than thou people like to point the finger at America all the time. It's easier for them to ignore their own problems I guess.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:13 06/05/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Usually its just sarcasm. I think some people are taking it too seriously.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:00 23/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    We havent, in fact in 2009 Hyde's band VAMPS performed at Pearl Harbor with a splendid outcome. Pearl Harbor is long over and we have made peace with japan.

    I have watched Family Guy and I only liked it when they were doing entertainment spoofs, I lately been hating some of the episodes, like the episode Peter can't stop playing this really crappy 1960's song that spun into a episode of blasphemy, and then the episode that the dog legalized pot with a song, really stupid, I was mostly disgusted with how Peter killed Quagmire's cat just because they didn't like to see him happy with the cat, I wanted to take that razor blade and slit his throat with it.

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    Comment by Vicious
    12:07 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't get why Americans get so upset at that. It was a prime military target. Any opposing military with half a brain and decent strategy wouldn't go up knocking and say, oh btw is Dec 7 , 1941 convenient for us to bomb your harbor kudasai?

    Is there any particular unwritten rule war must be declared first before an attack is made?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:45 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes actually. There are a lot of rules of war. I know it sounds silly, but there are certain rules you adhere to, not just to be honorable, but also because it can ruin your alliances if you don't follow these rules. For example, it would make things easier if you killed the ruler of a country without a fair trial if they were hassling you, but it's against the rules.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:46 17/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, people have the right to be upset over the loss of life, regardless of the situation. No one is ever like "Well damn they hit a good target! That's awesome!" It's pretty heartless to say that people shouldn't be upset over many deaths just because everyone around them started fighting first.

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    Comment by GANTZ Playboy!
    11:41 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    SEE!! SEE!! the Hypocracy I've been screaming about from DAY 1 with the Hollywood LEFT!! No Shame!!!!

    Because Japan is an ALLY of the USA and despite all it's 'social welfare' programs is largely Capitalist & NON-Socialist (3rd largest Economy on the Globe)...They're Jealous!

    Japan isn't a 3rd World 'Dirt Mound' that worships Celebrities or is Enslaved the U.N.'s desire for "One World Gov" - it's OK to make fun of them?? How Many other countries could rebound so fast after 2 Atomic Bombs?? Japan toke responsibility for it's part in WW2 LONG AGO!! - I have ZERO problems them.

    FUCK YOU Alec Sulkin! - You bring DISGRACE upon your family, race, & country.

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    Comment by Wallace Hunter
    21:56 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's part of tying current US militarism to WWII, the "good war." (Also the last war the US can claim to have won that wasn't fucking "Bambi Meets Godzilla.") See the constant rah-rah flag-waving WWII fetishization on the History and Military channels. Go to virtually any internet forum with a large conservative American presence and you'll see the result. Everything is compared to WWII.

    No one complains about comparing a conflict to WWII, but the moment you say "Vietnam," the bleating protests begin. "This is nothing like Vietnam!" (Well, apart from being a long-running insurgency that we keep making worse...basically apart from the behavior of the United States and the results of that behavior, they're more or less right, but the end result is the same.)

    I guess my point is that "Saving Private Ryan" was the most harmful movie in the history of mankind.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:24 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    US won korea. Check out the size of NK and SK and it's plain to see the US won. The success of SK vs the shitpile that is NK further shows who won. They also won vietnam....1 million dead vs 60K is a win plus they achieved the goal in both cases of stopping the spread of communism.

    BTW everything is compared to WW2 because it's the most recent war the whole world can relate to. In my grandparents time, all wars were compared to 'the great war' (ww1). To make comparisons you need to compare to something people know. You'd just confuse a lot of people if you said 'this war is just like the 100 year war' or 'this war is more righteous than the boer war'.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:20 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly , I can't stand when I hear it but its actually more of an older generation who does.

    Not all Americans agree with this man though. 99% of people I know find this to be a tragedy. We're all pretty angry with any one who shoots there mouth off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:56 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thing is, we have the usual bandwagon faggots who probably have no idea when or what Pearl Harbor is, asides from it involving Japan in some way.

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    Comment by HouseLife
    05:18 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    We don't. Stupid Americans whine about Pearl Harbor. This doesn't strike me as complaining as much as he's trying to get people to have perspective.

    At least in that regard I agree, just not about Pearl Harbor. I'm sick of every natural disaster or tragedy disrupting peoples' ignorant lives and suddenly everyone lives in fear walking on eggshells for a while, until they don't again like it never happened, never learning from anything. It's stupid. Help the victims, but don't sit around pretending that every little thing may make them feel bad or get offended.

    This was just an unnecessary comment the guy made, a mistake. So he took it down.

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    Comment by Lilith
    05:42 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tell them to google... Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or Tokyo Bombings, idiots.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    902 here I meant anon751 first time commenting on sankaku in a while so I dunno how to edit

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:18 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    @07:13

    First off, as a Eurofag, lemme just say you're just another European hater. The guy you commented on is Brazilian (on his profile lol dumbfuck) and he never said anything about you inbred bastards being undereducated, just pointing out that just like how you can't name the exact number of casualties on Pearl Harbor, you don't know the number of innocent non-war people killed in the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Get a clue, ass-hat.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:02 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_attack
    rough count of 3741 total deaths and injuries, most of them are largely military
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
    estimated total death toll is at LEAST 150,000
    in these largely urban areas, destroying roughly 69% of hiroshima's buildings alone. and before you give me shit about how the us warned Japan to begin with, this is from a time period where the largest explosive could at most demolish a building or two in high amounts, a bomb that could level and entire city would definitely be taken as a bluff. detonating off the coast where everyone could see it would be plenty proof but no it had to be on two of the most populated cities right?

    Also you're being rather presumptuous anon713, japan's prime minister and even emperor has issued apologies on behalf of the Japanese people for atrocities committed in the asian countries years ago and the japanese population at large does not hold any grudges against the american people and have instead decided to learn from their mistakes and move on. In other news, after the bombings, Truman said "I realize the tragic significance of the atomic bomb... It is an awful responsibility which has come to us... We thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies; and we pray that He may guide us to use it in His ways and for His purposes." which is basically the same thing as saying "These bombs kick ass, good thing we're the only ones that have them amirite?"

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:53 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The complete lack of recognition for the nuclear attacks against a civilian population is what surprises me most. Could Americans really be that uneducated?

    Also... its no surprise to me that a writer for family guy posted something wholly unoriginal and stolen from someone else. That is how they usually write their show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 16/03/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    No recognition for nuclear attacks in the US? Are you stupid? Americans are fully aware of the nukes are are well educated on the subject in schools from an early age, UNLIKE the Japanese who don't acknowledge details of their war crimes (like the Rape of Nanking, invasions of other countries, or the fact that civilians were killed during Pearl Harbor or that a full scale US invasion would have killed millions more Japanese... which the nukes prevented.) Americans are provided outlets to easily get information about war history, as well as footage of it, and are encouraged to learn about it in Jr. High and High school history classes.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @ 08:18

    Who cares how many died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki you dumb fuck, it was a war Japan started and we ended the way that would cost the least amount of AMERICAN lives.

    Don't like it? Go back in time and tell Japan which allied itself with a dumbfuck Hitler to not provoke us into a war. Making them sound innocent is just bullshit propaganda. You simply can't bitch about death toll when you start a war with another country. You can argue that we went overboard but given the situation of being in 2 wars I would have done anything to end one of them quickly myself. Personally I would have let Europe fall who would notice anyway talk about irrelevant!

    None of this has to do with the tragedy in Japan, but to make Japan sound innocent and victem like is bullshit. Again all this bullshit about Pearl Harbor is simply trolling for shock value.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Obviously you are another American hater. I'd guess you are a Euro-fuck with nothing better to do than display your America envy.

    America is not undereducated. It is a matter of perspective from both sides. In Europe war means raise the white flag and let Germany take over your country until the USA comes and saves you douche bags again and again. You see in a real war people lose their lives on both sides. This breeds hatred for the opposing country. People in the USA lost their lives or the lives of loved ones and they will probably never forgive Japan for starting the war with the USA. There are Japanese who will never forgive the USA for dropping nukes on their country.

    This does not mean ALL American's hate Japan or that we feel this is some retribution to Pearl Harbor. I feel horrible for the Japanese people, and I'm proud that our country helping them. I'm to young to harbor hate towards Japan and I'd even consider them somewhat of an Ally. I think in the age of the Internet its entirely too easy to troll for shock value which is exactly what is happening here. I think most of this crap about Pearl Harbor is trolling.














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