“No Anime For Foreigners Until You Wipe Out Fansubs!”

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The producers of Fractale have reportedly forced Funimation to pull the English language simulcast until they completely wipe out the wicked scourge of fansubbing.

Fractale was initially scheduled to air an English subtitled version at the same time as the Japanese broadcasts, airing even before most of Japan got to see the anime.

However, in spite of the legal option, fansubbers chose to show off their famed sense of ethics by ripping off the stream and illegally distributing it themselves.

The Fractale production committee decided this was unacceptable and ordered Funimation to cancel the English version, with no resumption in sight.

Funimation explains:

“We are disappointed that this series has been distributed illegally, and we’re actively working to remove the first episode from illegal streaming and downloading sites; we’ve got a dedicated anti-piracy team in place that works on controlling all of our simulcast material.

However, our Japanese partners for this series have decided that since this episode is currently uncontrolled and is available illegally in all territories, they don’t want the episode online.”

Oddly, the episode is freely available on Japanese P2P sites yet the production committee has not demanded that Japanese TV stations cease showing the anime until they wipe out the scourge of domestic piracy.

Nor does it seem this kind of heavy-handed and unrealistic response will be anything but counter-productive, as it assures 100% illegal distribution and demands the impossible of Funimation.

2ch is uncharacteristically understanding:

“I don’t know about all this stuff, but don’t these people know the unsubtitled version is available all over the place?”

“That’s beside the point!”

“But aren’t all these anime uploaded by Japanese in the first place?”

“You’re saying it’s the fault of the Japanese all these anime are being uploaded!?”

“This thread is pretty funny. To the right-wingers, there is no such thing as a Japanese person who commits crimes, is there?”

“Well, Japanese can watch it without having to dirty their hands with crime.”

“In Japan, the people who can only watch this on satellite stations have to wait 40 days for the broadcast – I think some of them won’t wait that long, you know.”

“Is there any anime the fansubbers don’t pirate? Those dirty foreign pirates get to watch this stuff before someone who lives in the regions like me.”

“Didn’t the same thing happen with Ore no Imouto?”

“Futile. Japanese will just up it to Chinese sites and then the Koreans share it with everyone else.”

“As long as China exists this is pointless.”

“The Chinese have it up and subbed 2-3 hours after broadcast. They are very organised. They have Chinese exchange students in Japan to arrange it with too.”

“If the Japanese government is so desperate to increase anime exports they should be demanding action from other governments, shouldn’t they?”

“Right… those crazy fansubbers think they aren’t doing anything wrong.”

“They just need to insert more ads into them. Like a protagonist with a Pizza Hut tattoo on his arm – then the extra distribution would be welcomed.”

“They already do that, not that it has any effect.”

“I live in the regions myself. Seeing all those hairy foreigners getting to watch the anime first is really disagreeable. And on top of that they act as if they are the saviours of anime, they’re despicable.”

“You’d think they’d promote the legal version whilst quietly working on eliminating the illegal versions at the same time… Stopping the legal version at the same time is pretty dangerous.”

“The legal broadcasts are the only way to halt pervasive illegal distribution. If they stop the legal broadcast, then they’re only going to increase the number of illegal broadcasts. Are these people idiots?”

“If you stop the legal broadcast the illegal distribution will increase. What a moronic decision.”


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    Avatar of yuriphoria
    Comment by yuriphoria
    03:28 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Question, is Japanese anime made for Japanese or for foreigners?

    If it is made for the Japanese, then the production cost/revenue analysis has already being done and proven the project to be lucrative. Foreigners could as well be dead, no need to wish their death, they already don't exist for the market.

    If it depends on foreign patronage then it is not really made for the Japanese, it must also cater to foreign predilections and obey foreign censorship.

    Which one do you choose?

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    Comment by Fronzel
    04:03 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    "foreign censorship"

    You know that many of the few animes made with the West in mind (like Afro Samurai) are brimming with sex and violence, right? And that DVDs haven't been edited for years and the few TV broadcasts rarely are?

    Also, Tokyo called. Something about "harmful" anime.

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    Comment by カンチ
    03:06 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    This was pretty pointless I must say.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:27 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    yup, in fact a bit retarded.

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    Comment by Tit Bird Neko
    Comment by Anonymous
    03:19 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    +3
    Plus i want to FFFUUUUUUU

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:30 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Ireland here. C&D using our landscapes and symbols in your Fractale anime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:49 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    LOL! Nice one, anon.

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    Comment by Yourtime
    03:03 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    yep, this will change.... nothing o0 xD

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    oh man, i love it, they seem to be more mad about that fact that foreigners will watch the show before they do instead of worrying about piracy....

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    Comment by Megidola
    03:44 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Surely they can't be this stupid to think removing the legal stream will stop piracy? With this reasoning they'd have to stop the Japanese TV broadcasts too.

    Seems like they just didn't want to associate with "fuckign fat Yankees" anymore, and are making a lame excuse.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    04:06 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Idk, Japan tends to surprise us quite a few times, so this wouldn't be a real shocker if it were true.....

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    Comment by Megidola
    04:19 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Whatever their intention was, the announcement is utterly retarded, that's for sure.

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    Comment by TFish
    11:01 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    At least 2ch seems to understands economics and how the world works, and it's just not another hundred comments of staunch xenophobia.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:04 23/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    dont you see the last comment from 2ch was a WIN

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:57 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yea, you'd think that they would try to stop the fansubbers (there are actually some group who sub anime licensed bu Funimation? I guess so) while promoting the legal version, you know, "fansubs re illegal, go and watch it here". Instead, they pulled the legal version, so now fansubs are all that's left. So of course the fansubs will get watched even more now.

    That's like a game developer stopping selling the game because it's all over the pirate bay - now even the people who would have bought it will go to tpb.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:57 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.8)

    this is exactly why japanese economy is fucked .

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    Comment by Yourtime
    03:08 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    it's like to say: "you are allowed to watch it.. it's okay to save it.. and share it.. but not with friends of the world"..

    if the english "subtitle" (which isn't for me a reason to "buy it") .. was shown on the tv, where is the difference?..XD

    as counter example, on mtv was shown the ova of golden boy.. if japan people would rip it and subtitle it, who cares? it was on tv.. :/

    for me, best comment: “As long as China exists this is pointless.” :D

    but that one is nice too:
    “If you stop the legal broadcast the illegal distribution will increase. What a moronic decision.”

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    Comment by Yourtime
    03:20 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.7)

    It's not that they are fansubbing it, because they don't pay for it. It's more that they don't want wait for "shipping them over". Most of the good series never come to the specify countries.

    If there is an Option, where I could get official (from the japan companies, to be fair for them) the whole "new" animes from an season subtitled on the same time (with max. 1-2 days difference), I would pay for it (, if it doesn't cost more than 15€ per month). That's my opinion to it.

    Edit: I know there is an edit button, but I often edit my Comments too much for corrections. xD

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    03:35 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I know you're making a good point, but can't help but think you're replying yourself.... lol

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    Comment by Gogetters
    12:32 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Combating illegal distribution of an anime by eliminating the only legal distribution of said anime.

    GENIUS

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:59 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    As if usa was the only wester country on the planet. Most foreign people that knows english watch fansubs, as funimation is not abailable in their country. They should be quite a number as we are considering the rest of the global population..

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    03:53 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    More like arguing at a mirror and getting a response from your reflection but that works too... lol

    No hard feelings @yourtime ^^

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    04:02 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    First time someone mentioned my username lol.

    But point made.
    I'd pay good money to get quality stream/cable or wadever media channel to my night junkies. But for now, imma settle wif livestreams and digital raws or even dvd if affordable(who am i kidding) if worth every dollar of mine to support....

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    Comment by Megidola
    03:46 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    @Yoshii-kun

    Multiple Personality Disorder?

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    03:43 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    “As long as China exists this is pointless.” lol

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    04:28 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    @ntbxp
    ...and region codes/limitations if not careful.

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    Comment by ntbxp
    04:21 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    >>Most of the good series never come to the specify countries.

    You forgot the laws and religions.

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    Comment by Yourtime
    03:53 21/01/2011 # ! Quality (+0.8)

    @megidola how nice : D
    @extrovertedotaku (Yoshii-kun) hm, ya know what you mean, but I can't merge them anyway now.

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    Comment by Kwonnie
    05:00 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    If it's already being streamed for free without subs, why should they care? The detractors on 2ch need to calm their tits.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:39 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    wipe out all illegal distribution?
    and we have mission impossible 4...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:43 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    lol you wanna wipe out the illegal distribution anime??

    i think we have mission impossible 4 here...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:50 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    I watch anime on japanese sites that host the file on american sites

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:45 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    There will be no anime for foreigners if we wipe out fansubs.

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    Comment by Hellmen
    08:45 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Fansub, fansub never changes. Deal with it.

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    Comment by Yourtime
    05:17 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @megidola oh, I knew it >_>
    @extrovertedotaku I thought it's nicer or easier for you to see a respond xD
    @kwonnie It's not that easy, I think

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    Comment by Megidola
    04:09 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    @yourtime

    Sorry, that was my other personality talking... :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    horriblesub despite the name doesnt sub anything, they just rip it straight from CR n funi. Besides nothing will change, Its still broadcast on tv in japan. someone will rip it raw, a fansubbing group come along and sub it, and in the end it be the same as b4 they even pulled the plug on the simcast, only this time, they wont get a cent from funi

    all i can say is good luck tryin to do what Hollywood tried to do

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    Comment by onitake
    00:59 22/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    that's exactly the point: they don't even license their shows for worldwide broadcast, and they expect fansubbers to stop distributing?
    this is exactly the same attitude the whole media industry has: instead of living up to people's expectations, they try to keep leeching on traditional distribution models.

    my message to the producers: supporting crunchyroll et al is a step in the right direction, but not enough. make it so we can watch it wherever we are and whenever we want (some minor limitations notwithstanding) - then there's not much point in fansubbing any more. well, unless the "official" version is exceptionally bad.
    in that case, fansubbers could just release separate subtitles that work with the "official" version. or people could just pass on subtitles if they understand the language well enough.

    why do they always complain about piracy, yet rarely give people what they expect?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    05:19, have you noticed that Horriblesubs explicitly said that they are pure Crunchyroll rip group and not fansubbers? Not many like Crunchyroll, not many at all.

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    Comment by alidan
    11:41 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    here is an idea i just came up with, one of they just put out an anime with commercials and let people fan sub's on the condition that they do not remove the commercials.

    There will be a little ticker at the bottom that just said there this anime is brought to you by this the best of the best, go this. At the middle of the show a commercial break, the reason for the ticker before was because most people will skip this. And there you have revenue coming in because every downhole that happens gets trapped you can charge the people who spot sponsored in their money for each episode that they paid to be put into, $.02-$.03 a second, times that by that say 20,000, and then times that by let's say six minutes so 300.

    that's a total revenue of $120,000 an episode, if 20,000 people watch at three cents a second. you could probably do more or less depending on how much you really charge. And I believe some anime goal for 100,000 downloads, some barely break 1000.

    Granted they pride charge less and maybe only polling 10,000 in episode, that's probably more than they make for selling full seasons of the show.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:16 22/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    wow....so much hate here :O
    I've been watching anime online for years now ( CR first - which I had a paid membership )
    Then I discovered "other" websites (which shall remain nameless) where I've been watching for over 2 years now, for free.
    What's the big deal? Anyone with real player or any online downloading tool can download the original subbed version then re-upload it to a video host site, and distribute it through a second party host like google video or myspace.

    I bet that more than 2/3 of the people on this site watch it the same way everyone else does...and as for buying these animes on BD or DVD...they have will probably never be released here or when they are it'll probably be a year or more after they're released in China or Japan (legally)

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    Comment by Kitsunemimi6
    15:34 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I understand how they feel but they clearly are taking the wrong approach to the matter & will live to regret it if anything...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:23 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    This really doesn't make any sense at all.

    Your eliminating a factor in which probably 5% of all people watch? It's like saying lets ban releasing DS games because the R4 is out....

    If I was Funanimation though and seen that they have taken my money with a stupid reason like that I would take them to court and make sure they get sued so they can't make any more of these silly cartoons.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:19 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Horriblesubs are behind this? Among a few others? I have noticed that horriblesubs actually rips crunchyroll streams for their fansubbing. I admit I do get anime for free when it's straight from Japan. But if it's a simulcast and I can go the legal route I do take it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:58 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    If English dubs were available at a reasonable price (no more than 50 cents an episode to stream), then I'd gladly pay to view them, but even those are heavily pirated. I really don't even care to watch the subs. It's a pain to have to wait years for a dub, especially when a new season comes out.

    Give them to us faster and cheaper so we don't have to choose between pirating them or not watching them at all.

    Comment by Anonymous

    ... honestly, I lightly agree with these guys opinions in some areas.

    1) Fan-subbing IS illegal and lightly unethical. there is no getting around that. The only thing close to a remedy for this is supporting the official release and increasing awareness for anime you wish to support.

    2) Technically, Fansubbers ARE pirates, but unlike most pirates, some Fansubbers have MORALS. This includes taking down downloads and torrents of things they've subbed that have gotten official releases in their country. But then again, these are PIRATES, meaning there is always a fansubbing group with lower morals.

    3) Anybody who watches fan subs and calls themselves the "saviors of the industry" need to get off their high horse, and promptly. The people who keep the industry alive are the people who buy the official release, and last I checked, none of those guys bought three regular, special, and collectors editions of a series, along with every figurine and piece of merchandise that has come out for it, all at the price the Japanese pay.

    4) This move, while one made for the very reason of its press release, is a dumb one, for the reasons given in this article.

    now, to end this post on another note:

    “This thread is pretty funny. To the right-wingers, there is no such thing as a Japanese person who commits crimes, is there?”

    Sometimes, their moments of clarity are quite funny.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:03 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Well, even if the DVDS and BluRays are shipped over within a month, you will still find them online doanloadable - they are ripped. XD But Anime fans just want to watch it thes same day it is released.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:03 23/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    it cant be helped really, jap marketing was the worst after all

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    Comment by Tremere
    20:11 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Coming from a 'original anime' where a director staked his career on it...I don't see what the big hoohah is about.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:39 25/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    if i like an anime, i will want to watch it. i can do three things: wait for the not 100% guaranteed broadcast here, wait for the not 100% guaranteed dvd here, or wait for the fansubs.

    i try to make up with it by buying merchandise..

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    Comment by james
    21:10 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    true, i live in the uk so we've got sky and virgin media, all funimation has to do is open their own station that shows subbed anime in 720-1080p and i'll gladly pay the extra couple of quid to my bill and they can pay the japs outta that too.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    03:39 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Not only will it change nothing, it'll incite the fansub community more. XD

    Also, it's very ironic they decide to punish LEGAL venues because of it... If they want for more legitimization, allow legal venues to be just as accessible as the illegal ones.

    And some 2ch posters gets it right. Some of them calling out on how piracy is the same all over. It's always hilarious to see them refer to foreigners, Chinese and Koreans as 'criminals'. Must feel good man.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I hope Japan continues to punish legal avenues of distributing their product until they push those channels into bankruptcy. I can speak/read/understand Japanese so fansubs mean nothing to me.....raw rips baby.

    The problem is Japan. They think that their product is the stories and so they use this idiotic business model where they sell those stories to overseas distributors, who then proceed to add dubbing, ridiculously poor translations and removal of offensive material. Bzzzzzzzz. You just lost me. The "star" of Japanese media for me is not the stories, not the artwork and not the seiyuus....it's Japan itself. The language, the funny habits, the locations, the history. So I only buy Japanese media directly from Japan.

    I've got a couple hundred Japanese music CD's, a massive AKB48 collection, over 2000 manga books, dozens of figures and scads of DVD's, games and blu-rays.....as well as sheetloads of pirated media. Sue me....I've pumped tens of thousands of dollars directly into the Japanese economy as a direct result of my piracy. I even go there once a year, all because I discovered Japan through piracy. So I dare you to sue me Japan...I don't use any secret methods to get my shit....come on.....I've got thousands of rips.....leave your name so I can tell all the Japanese vendors I deal with personally who is responsible for their loss of business.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:29 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Whoa, dude can I be your friend!?
    I would seriously love to see your collection of anime stuff.It would also be sweet to go to Japan every year god damn!

    Excellent point too, your second paragraph is the exact reason why fansubs exist today. I 100% agree with you on that point, if the distributors would stop messing with our anime and just release it in its original form on the same day they do in Japan I would be happy to buy it. Although it's probably not possible for them to do so... thus piracy exists.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:34 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    >removal of offensive material.

    Either you haven't watched official localizations for many years or you're still watching Cartoon Network. That crap doesn't fly well here anymore.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's funny all this ANTI FOREIGNERS crap...

    Because the RAWS that are uploaded online and that later fansubs use are actually provided by Japanese Citizens who record em from TV (and thus the channel logo appearing in some episodes)

    OH IROOOOOOONYYYYYYY

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:41 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yes, the Chinese send their best spies to Japan , posing as exchange students, to secretly ruin Japan's economy by stealing anime. ;P

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:50 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    one thing they are right, as long as CHINA exist there will forever be illegal anime :)

    There is no stopping this unless the chinese government do something about which we and they know they wont do anything.

    The most if we cant get it from the source we can also ripped off the chinese website off their anime and subbed as our own.

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    Comment by Gitami
    08:11 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    They did say there are foreign exchange students there. Some of it can be attributed to foreigners but others are Japanese citizens.

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    Comment by King Tiger
    04:15 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    "Oddly, the episode is freely available on Japanese P2P sites yet the production committee has not demanded that Japanese TV stations cease showing the anime until they wipe out the scourge of domestic piracy.

    Nor does it seem this kind of heavy-handed and unrealistic response will be anything but counter-productive, as it assures 100% illegal distribution and demands the impossible of Funimation."

    hey Fractale?
    shut the fuck up ya damn hypocritical bastards YOUR COUNTRY'S pirates SUPPLIES OUR WESTERN PIRATES
    start chasing your own before you start barking orders at us ya dumb bastards

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    04:19 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's Yamakan. I just know it.

    I'd like to see them bring down Winny, Perfect Dark and Share or any of them.
    That'll be good lulz before I weep at the consequences....

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:30 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Consequences will be trivial: next generation of p3p network.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:36 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    P3P? Nice concept, kind of like a threesome!

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:12 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    look on the bright side... we still got fansubs....

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    04:16 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    But before that, a prayer to diligent uploaders for share-raws and .ts rips so we may indulge.
    Bless them... *sniff*

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    18:04 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uh... no offense, but isn't this just the kind of thinking that started the whole issue in the first place? And if it never comes over, then I guess I'll just never watch it. Unless I learn Japanese and go to Japan. It's not -that- important that "I -HAVE- to see it -NOW- or else!"

    Geez, a little patience. It goes a long way. Really it does.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:21 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    onoes no more simulcasting

    and nothing of value was lost

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.6)

    onoes no more fractale

    and nothing of value was lost

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:26 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    So they want to wipe out fansubs which actually helped us getting to know these series in the first place - leading to things like simulcasts - by punishing those who LEGALLY watch these series?

    Way to go, Japan... >_<

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    Comment by awesome
    04:46 21/01/2011 # ! Good (+0.4)

    don't you see, they want to force more people to pirate anime :)

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    Comment by Kai
    08:39 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They also lead to figure purchases, music purchases, and in a rare case a dvd purchase which are fucking expensive for just 2 episodes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:58 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Yea, changes nothing. I didn't know it was airing. But I'll pay if I can watch whenever and DRM free with nice subs. Oh, fansubs do that for free and yet I donate. Nice.

    Bad move.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:19 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Honestly, Funimation can be blamed for the whole thing. I mean god knows how much I spent on Dragonball over the years, and then they put it out out of order and censored and uncensored, then re-released it over and over again in different aspect ratios and other such nonsense. No wonder we just steal it now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:26 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    i lol-ed

    now funimation have no reason to continue wasting money and resources on their anti-piracy team for fractale

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    Comment by SA
    18:19 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    so the raw chapter is the japanese P2P network and they ignore it. But they get their panties in a knot for a low quality, dark and badly ripped(not to mention free in the USA) video stream? wtf japan? is like kicking your chicken because the extra egg got stolen from the weasel

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    15:22 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seems everyone is smarter than the company demanding they take down the legal broadcast. Are they really so naive as to think that funimation's stream is the -only- source for fansubbers to get the show? What fools!

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    Comment by Firetribe
    11:33 22/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hear the french simulcast is still happening.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:15 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hate Funimation Altogether. They ruin every thing.

    Comment by Anonymous

    I think your fucking stupid

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    Comment by Syobon
    11:13 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    put yourself in their place, if you are the guy who create anime/manga and could just observe those distant foreigners of barbarian nations enjoying your work without giving you a cent of what you ask for it, you would be mad as hell too, its easy complain, but I say fuck them, what would I do if I only watched legally subbed anime? If so, I would be mad as hell reading this news, so I call a draw.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:08 21/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Put myself in their place? Okay.
    "Our new series has been shown on TV here in Japan and we also have it airing just an hour later in America on the internet! Awesome!"
    "What? The one from TV was recorded and put online for all to enjoy? The American one was taken by people not from America and distributed online as well?"
    "Fine. Let's stop the Americans from getting their version because it was clearly their fault. They should have better control of their people."













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