Square Enix has announced a 90% drop in its projected profits, a disaster it grovellingly blames on Final Fantasy XIV.

The revised fourth quarter financial estimate:

Before: ¥160,000,000,000 ($1.9 billion)
After: ¥130,000,000,000 ($1.5 billion)

Net profit:
Before: ¥12,000,000,000 ($143 million)
After: ¥1,000,000,000 ($12 million)

Square Enix’s explanation is that “a slump in console sales and an exceedingly critical market reception to our main titles” caused the plunge and goes on to admit that it was because “Final Fantasy XIV failed to live up to consumer expectations of a Final Fantasy title.”

With Wada still hanging on to his post and Final Fantasy XIV likely a write-off, it seems Square Enix’s troubles may yet continue.


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    Avatar of obro
    Comment by obro
    21:21 16/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I know it sounds crazy but...they could try something ...new

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    21:22 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Isn't that what they've been doing since FF10 and up? I say stick to what they know how to do... Handheld games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.9)

    I have a novel idea for them. How about they try to make their games... fun? I know, I know, it's a novel concept for corporations, but it seemed to work very well years before the likes EA and Activision entered (read:bought) the market.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:24 16/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    I'm ok with seeing average graphics on a "new" final fantasy, but I miss the more memorable storylines. The kind that makes fanboys rage when people troll their favorite final fantasy. Final Fantasy died on the playstation

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    Comment by Candy
    01:13 17/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Square should rename themselves circle.

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    21:47 16/12/2010 # ! Quality (+1.0)

    Fun? What is this Fun you speak of?

    No but I agree, FF13 had all its focus on shiny bright graphics in front of gameplay and storytelling, FF14 is simply a quick cash-in on the FF name. I havn't played Four Heroes of Light yet, but I've heard that one is a lot of fun though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    It's probably because it's no longer the same people that made those classics running Square Enix. The classics were from Squaresoft.

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    Comment by Neonie
    05:13 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cry some more Square. Cry some more.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:19 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would play a chocobo racing game with realistic graphics. Not some cartoony one which would appeal to children. It should play like burn out paradise and you would be able to pimp out your own personal chocobo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:30 18/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fail-nix really needs to get their act together before they plunge into a firey ball of death.

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    Comment by Kwonnie
    09:05 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anon 7:38


    I'm not acting like anything. I just think they could divert their attention elsewhere.

    And I like both KH and Dissidia. I'm talking about the sequels that contribute little story or gameplay wise and do nothing more than generate portable platform sales.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:50 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    man, seriously why didn't they just make a remake of ff7 with some nice graphics.
    they wouldn't have to care about story or gameplay, just make the graphics nice and shiny and keep everything else as it is.
    as all they can do now IS graphics it would be perfect.

    so, they got this product everyone's been waiting for for years and that would sell like hot cakes and what do they do?

    "meh, i don't feel like it, let's make a game about a really long tunnel instead."
    "oh! oh! and after that we could just try and make everything wrong!"
    "yeah, that's a great idea man, let's do this! oh wait, on second thought, let china do it and we go for a drink instead"

    seriously wtf sqeenix
    i can understand why games become worse because companies try to appeal to casuals but this is just fucking retarded.

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    Comment by ToadnoChikara
    21:50 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    How about squeenix make a FF game using the old style FF gameplay (mmm, FFVI). I mean, its not like anyone ever played their games for the gameplay...


    Comment by Anonymous
    22:29 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They should make a 2D console and publish FF on it, where it belongs.

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    Comment by Kwonnie
    02:33 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Square-Enix crafted a whole new engine just for generating games with FF13 graphics. They clearly haven't been taking advantage of it at all... especially considering we haven't heard news of an Agito or Versus at all... and they decided to not do the FF7 remake... and they're still hung up over 14... and they keep releasing next-to-irrelevant Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia games...

    Comment by Anonymous

    I love how people say 'they could try something new' when that's exactly what the same people bitched and moaned about in terms of the last several releases of final fantasy. I'm sick of the fucking hypocrites, seriously. None of you know anything it seems.

    Comment by Anonymous

    @Kwonnie =
    we've HEARD tons about Agito and Versus.
    we've SEEN little, but they TALK about it all the time.
    if you haven't at least heard anything that's not S-E's fault. if there's one thing they're good for is talk.

    "they're still hung up over 14"?
    FFXIV's a wreck sure, but you act as if they've been at it for years.
    reality check, its only been out for a few months.
    whether they should just dump it at this point is another matter, but don't act like they've been at it for a long time.

    Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts isn't next-to-irrelevant in terms of sales and making money for S-E.
    just because you don't like them doesn't mean much.

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    Comment by Majineko
    02:46 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    i vote remake the old. then they have to put any thought into the story. their classics all the way to the ps2 era is wat made then big. why not go back to that?

    Comment by Anonymous

    I agree with above. Make a damn FF7 re-make with pretty graphics...add a bit of story if you must to make it longer = profit. Big profit. Then continue on with what made you what you were. JRPGs peopel loved. FF6,5,4 come right to mind for me. Hell, even FF10 was pretty good I thought. Have something 'new' being worked on to the side, but till you're on your feet, do what works even if it's not 'new'. I wish I had the rights to FF7 and the team behind the graphics to FF13. Oh man...

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    Comment by Dreck
    22:04 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.6)

    I've always been alone in this in regards to FFX, but I always felt that since the merge the titles just didn't hit me the same way they used to (makes sense...) I was an avid fan up until FFX. They had a formula in both writing and design that I had no qualms with until the release of X, though most would go for saying it was 12 or w/e that reared the ugly head of a slump...

    FFX just never felt like an FF game to me. XII was interesting and a step up for me from X as far as the VA's and writing go, but still wasn't what I wanted out of an FF game (I know I never bothered to finish either game.) I remember playing X and never becoming engaged with it, finally I ended up getting past the point where you acquire the airship and was finally on the back of SIN. I ended up just quitting the game entirely, I was at the point of not caring - I hadn't the slightest interest in finding out what was coming next because I was sure to be disappointed just as I was with the rest of the game. I'm surprised I made it that far.

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    Comment by Megidola
    00:19 17/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    I really liked FFXII too. It was a great game, it was just unfairly criticised for doing things a bit differently.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:15 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Yea I hated FFX and the characters. Everyone was over acting. And I really don't care about their past backgrounds or feelings. It was like they were trying too hard to be emotional.

    FFXII was great though. The characters weren't 'deep' or we weren't forced to pry into their pasts too much. They were a cool bunch of guys and did not have the tendency to scream all the time. They're there to do what they had to do.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:51 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Tidus was the worst main character in all of FF imo. I got tired of hearing him brag about being the star player on some gay soccer team.

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    Comment by Nekomancer
    23:47 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I completely agree Dreck! FFX just didn't have that charm. It was one of the most boring gaming experiences in my life. Though a majority doesn;t think very dearly about FFXII I had much more fun playing it compared to FFX.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:14 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You Sir, Speak so much truth.

    VI was the Last great one.
    VII was good.
    VIII tanked into Shit-Hole.
    IX was Redemption.
    X was the finally fall into Hell.

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    Comment by Dreck
    17:45 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    hah personally VIII was among my liked titles :) But IV and VI along with IX were the most enjoyable for me. They all had just enough quirks to themselves to set them apart, but they all still felt the part of a series. Really someone a fan of the series at that time looked FORWARD to the smaller changes just as much when they were sitting down for a playthrough. At the very least that was the case with myself. Does no1 else even remember just the difference the blue windows in FFIX brightened up the scheme? Even small things such as that had their worth (despite how ridiculous that sounds... even to my ears)

    I've more or else gotten to where I don't play console much at all... Things have gotten too big for me I feel like I've been left behind a long time ago. Shooters no longer pace themselves, it's always run and gun. RPG's are far and few as far as the states or west are concerned (with only a few notable exceptions)

    I remember buying my ps3 simply for the hopes that there would be at least quite a few ports available, especially from japan. Gone are the days of relatively unknown or small companies pumping out cult hits one after the other. Yeah sure I enjoy the blockbuster hits from time to time, but I don't need 3Dmax graphics everytime I pop in a gamedisc...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:02 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did you just say s-s-soccer?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:23 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I disagree.
    I found FFX to have a very engrossing story, mainly due to the world's background.
    The timeline and the story really hit me as an epic. From the start of the game all characters seemed to have a big role, more than most rpgs in which everyone starts as an unlikely hero.
    The ending in X was also excellent.

    FFXII though, while I considered it to have solid gameplay, none of the characters were interesting.In fact I felt the the main antagonist was correct in both his goals and methods, after the great plot twist, so that really soured the game for me.

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    22:33 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You just spoke my thoughts exactly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:42 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    12 turned out to be my favortie ff game because of that.

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    Comment by Atzumo Kayami
    23:43 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Yeah, I agree that FFX had a great storyline, but I consider that it was the last final fantasy, since the beginning was great and all, but after the guy that was writing the story was replaced, nothing made sense to me anymore

    Comment by Anonymous

    I liked FF10 :(

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    Comment by ToadnoChikara
    21:45 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    They could always make a new FF in a completely old style (good ol FFVI). Sure, the gameplay elements have been repeated over 9000 times, but its not like we ever played FF games for the gameplay

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:39 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Yeah, people are always saying Final Fantasy is getting stale or it's all rehashes or something, but that's complete and utter nonsense.

    FF13 is absolutely nothing like what FF used to be, and yes, this started with the horrible god forsaken linear FF10, which people seem to absolutely love for some reason. I'm guessing this reason is that it was the first time they'd seen "next gen" graphics in FF, and fanboy/girl squealing over the voice acting. The game itself was atrocious, the game world hardly any more complex than FF13's.

    People who say FF is the same as it's always been have never played more than five minutes of any of them, either that or they're totally blind. I WISH it was still the same.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:08 19/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Apparently I've played ff7 before ff10, it felt soo bad that I gave up on ff8 and ff9 all together.

    FF10 depite having a whining cunt as main, has an excellent background and world setting, it has some of the best background music of all the rpg I've played. FF7 on the other hand...felt medicore, much like ff6 which I tried on GBA, I didn't even reach half way before quitting because it was again...medicore and nothing refreshing.

    FF10/12 has one thing in common, a vivid world which 13 kinda lacked due to town center issue(though Im only 10hrs in due to not owning a ps3).

    As I play more rpgs, this feel of a "vivid world" grows more important to me, and sadly older rpgs usually lack such thing, maybe due to limitation of graphic, or because games evolve. Hence why I enjoy western rpg more and more, as they got a whole world out there to explorer.

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    Comment by Hatsune Miku
    08:06 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They really should stick with single-player modes. No offense to Square-Enix but all the FF online gaming were just terrible.

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    21:32 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or just let Mistwalker handle it. :P

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    Comment by Mizushima 水島

    ffx wasn't that bad just fucking tidus whining pissed everyone off but x-2 up failled in my opinion

    Comment by Tenno Seremel
    21:26 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    They could try Chrono sequel and be pretty fine.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:36 18/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cross or Trigger?

    21:59 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I want that grave stone handheld version and a free copy of FF XIV so i can LOL at it everyday.

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    Comment by Hyra911
    22:22 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Kick Wada's stinky ass first or they will fail again no matter what new trick they are going to try.

    Avatar of カンチ
    Comment by カンチ
    01:34 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Like a good game?

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    Comment by Y10NRDY
    06:12 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It feels like Square Enix is just having a lot of trouble letting go of the idea that they can forever coast on past successes. Maybe if they don't outsource the next game to China they'll sell a few copies. Deciding to break down and actually pay the developers with whom they've enjoyed victories before would probably help, too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:21 19/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yea they need something new ...

    like final fantasy maker <- fail

    hmm maybe final fantasy moggle nut butter <- Fail

    i guess they does not need something new

    they need a miracle


    Comment by Anonymous
    14:22 05/11/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree, very least have someone other than Tetsuya Nomura do the project, I'm not saying art wise but how about get Akira Toriyama to work on it.

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    Comment by King Tiger
    10:01 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    *pokerface* :I

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:10 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    they've been doing new

    but not good new

    more like, new nasty smell in the garbage new

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    Comment by Aya Reiko
    02:14 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, like firing Wada, the George W. Bush of the industry.

    Avatar of kyosak
    Comment by kyosak

    Or just remake FF8 mmhmm
    I'll buy 10 copies of that

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    21:29 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Right, imagine FF8 with FF13 gameplay... ...suddenly all those FF remake wishes fade away huh?

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    Comment by Nekomancer
    23:51 16/12/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Wasting countless hours to draw spells that you will not use because it would damage your stat? Thank you, but no.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:17 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Stupid game making me draw magic from monsters which I can kill in 30 seconds for 30 minutes.

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    Comment by AlucardsQuest
    18:33 19/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Best story line in FF8? None of it made any sense! The dialogue is nonsensical, contradictory and boring... and every plot point seems to negate events that had just taken place. This is not good story-telling. A lost translation doesn't make up for the rest of the game shooting itself in the foot. Top 5 worst FF games...

    1. 14
    2. 13
    3. 10
    4. 8
    5. 12

    So tired of people overrating this series. Let it die!!! Dragon Quest has always had better stories anyway.

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    Comment by redscarnova
    21:49 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    mh, what about FF8 with FF8 gameplay,
    sounds good to me

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    Comment by Manjix
    00:30 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    "Generate" spells from items.
    Don't be too stingy.

    Avatar of Torbjörn Karlsson
    Comment by Torbjörn Karlsson
    22:33 16/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    Yeah, like that could happen. :P

    Avatar of leon valentine
    Comment by leon valentine
    16:41 17/12/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    I don't remember taking to long to draw the magic, all my characters draw 9 each time

    Comment by Anonymous

    thats the problem with new generations they dont read the manuals an then whine ff8 was the easiest an fastest ff infact you could do the game in about 8 hours also its one of the best ff it has the best stroy line after disc 2 part of its translation was lost ...

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    Comment by alex251

    dude, they are Japanese, you know...

    Comment by Anonymous

    Lol then what are you?Chuck Norris?

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