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What's the point of censorship, seriously...
It's not like a japanese child can't access a random american porn site when the PC is not in use (I was like 6 when I watched porn for the 1st time, and boy was it fun), besides, it should be adults playing this game, why aren't THEY allowed to see fucking nipples? "Oh nooo, nipples, I'm so offended. "
I wonder if Japanese censorship company things run to your house when you're having sex with your wife/brother/sister/child and stick black stickers on their nips and vag, or cover your eyes with a kaleidoscope to simulate a very colorful mosaic.
That's what I don't understand, too. It's a game made for adults. Why the hell should it be censored in any way? And even if a child got it's hands on it, it's its parents responsibility.
"I wonder if Japanese censorship company things run to your house when you're having sex with your wife/brother/sister/child and stick black stickers on their nips and vag, or cover your eyes with a kaleidoscope to simulate a very colorful mosaic."
I laughed so hard when I imagined that. XD
Damn you censorship give us back our nudity.
Who the hell buys Mafia II for the old pics of boobs??? The internet is chuck full of all the boobs and cooch you could want for free...
The point is not about collecting fap material through a game, but the censorship of it IN a game you PAID FOR.
The nets is ofc full of free stuff, but putting time and effort into collectibles which you may fap to is so much more rewarding, even if you've gotta hold it.
Seconded this opinion +
After paying it, I think we deserve the full content of it UNCENSORED, not censore it with PLAIN BLACK BAR which is NOT creative at all
I hate censorship in all its forms :(
Its a direct assault on free will.
"Your not allowed to see this sexy thing, hear that naughty thing or see that violent thing because WE say so. Your age doesnt mean shit despite us all having established age rating systems."
Censorship is in direct violation of my erection.
certain things should be censored. ill name a few.
- guys in porn movies. i dont need to see the douchebags face or body, all he is there for is there is a dick and she has a hole to fill.
- roast beaf pussies. see if its censored, we have an imagination and we can make ourselves think what we are seeing is better.
- and the guys ass when he is fucking the woman, seriously, i dont want to see a hairy ass take up more then half the fucking screen
Please stop the censors...!
Think of the children!
if we link cencering tits to people being gay, i think we could have an effective anti censoring campaign on our hands.
a 9 year old kid sees tv but boobs are censored, and an internal monolingual says "boobs muc be bad if i cant see them" and split screen uncecencred and he smiles and laughs a bit. than growing up montage, one side turns out gay, the other goes for a girl.
whats scarier to a parent than not cencering will me my child a deviant, cencering makes your kid like the cock
What I love is how stuff is censored for the benefit of people who wont even play/read/watch the media. Yes, some people have delicate sensibilities and a bare breast might offend them. That's fine, pathetic but fine. But censoring media those people have no interest in and will never actually see? I just cant understand how people can be that stupid. Seems like this blatantly retarded situation is here to stay for decades to come, sadly...
Wrong approach, Travis. If people don't want to see tits or whatever they can simply choose to not look at it. Nobody stops them.
Censoring is taking away your choice, though. There can be absolutely no valid reason for censoring. Not now, not ever.
Let's add a "in the entertainment industry" to you're statement, just to be perfectly safe. Because I can imagine some cases where censoring certain informations works better than the truth. For example information that would lead to a mass panic. The thing about panic is, that people lose control over themselves wich doesn't benefit anyone. As long as no one manipulates information to gain something... oh well, too late. Just read some random history book (assuming you know the truth about the stuff written about).
It feels weird to read about events you lived through yourselves but it feels even weirder if the text doesn't match with your memory. Short story long, I don't like censorship, acknowledge the need in rare cases and like boku no pico.
PS: Butthurt americans can't face the truth. (See my comment above.)
back when information could be easily contained, cencership had a roll, i don't like it, but it had one.
but now when truth tits and everything else that use to be covered up is freely available, they can go fuck themselves.
but i do believe that things should be censored till a certain time. look at comedy centeals midnight stuff, i believe that 10pm should be the switch from bleep to fuck, but thats just because anyone who doesn't know the word is sleeping by than anyway.
In reality, someone who found sexuality disgusting but loved extreme violence and gore would be some kind of psychopath, wouldn't they?
You just proved everyone involved with US movie, game or whatever ratings is a psychopath. ^_^
Psychopath doesn't seem to fit that well. Let's just say mentally defective. After all the US was created by invading a continent, killing off the natives and then barricade up to feel the illusion of safety. It's also worth mentioning that the early settlers where basically all criminals kicked out of england and most of the settlers to come where not much different.
It's only natural that they all feel insecure and a certain affinity to weapons instead of women. So they aren't so much psychopaths as they are mentally defective. All americans. No exceptions. That they feel the need of a weapon and expect other people to harm them proves this point. Now I'm not saying they don't have anything to fear. Of course they do, all of them are mentally defective! No wonder lots of them go all the way to psychopath and start going batshit crazy.
early american settlers were religious tightasses, so tight that britian didn't want them, and because of religious differences they were forced to leave.
they weren't real criminals
lets see here, other side of the coin.
america spends the vast majority of its money on the military, even in piece times, they still allocate at least 1 trillion to it a year
we also have the most lax gun laws of any first world i believe, but thats because our founders had to fight for there freedom, and believed there may be a time again when we must fight, so gun laws are more lax than other places.
japan i believe even currently, still doesn't have simple possession as illegal. meaning that if you are caught with it you are not getting jail time, but if you were to make or distribute it, you would. this is how i believe the whole world should work due to digital cameras and no film developing knowage necessary (as in a kid takes a pic of them nude posts it to the world, with no adults) thats why they ahve that, and also the low age off concent, and the over all older men looking at younger women, and also anime, there are alot of reasons for that stereotype.
European people, well that ones is due to an over all pussy approach to everything. cant fault you for it, because internationally, its not your problem, but thats why it comes up when you call americans war hungry.
and muslems, no, they arent, however if they are born in muslem countries, than they are also under the suni (sp) laws, which in any first world country would be crimes against humanity, like a woman cant accuse a man of rape unless 4 other men back her up, and if she claims it, without backup, she goes to prison for admitting to sex outside for marriage. that and there over all horrific culture, that is basically fuck every one and every thing from the west, how could they be better than us, which fosters hate, and there over all violent culture, just blowing up and getting out of it must seam like a fucking dream.
@10:24 Anon
There is no rule saying mentally defective people can't lead a somewhat normal life, now is there? I know that they lie in american history books and the internet, so I'm not going to try to convince you as a truth is nothing else but the lie everyone agreed upon.
Point of order: if you're an american, you are mentally defective. It's not something you could notice in daily life, but more like a code imprinted in you. You may notice it, when you feel the need to lock your door at nighttimes or if you feel insecure leaving you're things in the care of stranges while riding a train and using the toilet. Or even if you have difficulties trusting people you don't know.
If you take those things for granted and wonder how anyone else could feel different about them, then you are mentally defective.
@anon 5:11 excuse me did you just use a gross generalization by saying all Americans are mentally defective? Who the fuck are you? Sorry but last time I checked I was pretty sane. I'm able to hold down a job, I've only gotten into 3 fights in my life, I've never taken a life, I've never had homicidal or suicidal tendencies or even thoughts. So that would define me as pretty sane and non mentally defective. But what the hell Americans are the scum of the earth because our Government sucks so let's just label every single one of them with a non existent defect. Ooh and PS I don't own a gun, and the only knives I own are kitchen knives.
But yea I've murdered 3 people today how about you? /sarcasm
PPS : I hate people who lump a whole nation together because of some bad apples. Next time I'll do the same by saying all European people are fags, all Japanese are sex crazed pedophiles, and all Muslims are homicidal bombers.
Did you like my examples of ignorance and horribly exaggerated generalizations? Aren't stereotypes and generalizations amazing?
@Anon 10:24 i agree, not only is his stereotypes bad but he complains about a history of violence, then just about every civilization in the world must be insane
Yea, hopefully it maybe fixed after WWIII.
censorings translation is " I'm to lazy to watch what my child is doing so i want that everyone else is at fault"
Blame religion!
No, blame moralfags. Even if there ain't any religion, they'll make one to justify their oppressive desires.
They must have some incredible imagination or anti censor X-ray vision.
@POKI
You know, my point was that it's easy. Importing stuff is time consuming and difficult. Also, you need to gather information on how and where to buy. You also need to check about the censorship. Lots of unnecessary time.
Now if you're a pirate you need about three minutes to get what you want without so much as wasting a second thought. Sometimes you get you're stuff before you even knew, that you wanted it. If it was somehow possible, I would pay those good pirates. They can do a better job than the guys receiving money for their work. Mainly because they don't have to care for laws.
You mean... censorship must be censored from games?
Mind = blown
No, censorship must be censored from existence.
Boycotting censored stuff sure would be a great first step to realize that goal.
piracy=uncensored+WIN
..and they wonder about piracy. If anything I learned over all those years it's that official products SUCK ASS and pirated products are all a customer could ever wish for. Reminds me of the uncensored version of the uncensored version of this one strike witches episode. Damn, how I love my pirated stuff. I don't even need to bother checking for censorship, like with FSN recently. The voice-patch and uncensored-patch just fell in my hands, without any kind of research. It was like "Hey, pirates, I want FSN" - "Sure, want it uncensored and with voices?" - "Hell yeah!"
Censoring the censorship- that was B Gata H Kei wasn't it?
Censoring needs to be banned. I'll never understand why people actually buy censored shit.
Episode 7 i think it was where the bar of soap was removed <3
I suggest that every moral fag who feels they have a right to decide what everyone can view or play should be forced to emigrate to the surface of the sun.
FUCK CENSORSHIP, I'LL JUST GO BE A PIRATE! YARGHH!!!! Oh wait, I already am.
I understand anime TV censorship, it's a ploy to ship more DVDs and BluRays.
But I don't get this at all.
I say blame the Japan moral association or whatever it's name is which frequently have it's logo on movies and games.
@Chen-04
your views seems to be limited, the difference between a bad pirate and a good pirate is that one will get caught.
a good pirate will take their time to check out the links/files/ and uploader to make sure everything is legit/without virus or traces. reading the comments left by others is can also be helpful.
btw i can easily go on ebay and purchase an import game in less than 6 mins as well. it's not that hard as you're making it out to be. all you have to do is read the product description and check out the seller's rating.
i don't think you comprehend the meaning of censorship... down-voting is a form of censorship by suppressing someone's comment so that the majority won't see it "unless" they take the effort to click on it.
Too bad, Japan wasn't always like this.
Censor bars: Government enforced ribbing for her pleasure.
@Chen-04
there's flaws in your logic, but hey you don't have to explain to me why you prefer pirating over importing.
@POKI
It's an hedonistic point of view. As long as it benefits me in the short run, there are no flaws.
Besides.. imported stuff lacks english texts most of the time. And if I where to import FSN, there would be the censorship issue. Pirates win.
@POKI
Researching for download? You're a bad pirate... there is no such thing as researching for download. You ask your fellow pirates! It takes me about 3 to 6 minutes from "I want ..." to "I'm watching it right now".
Downvoting isn't censorship. If you want to you can read it, but people considered the text as not worthy to read so you need to reverse the majority vote. If you couldn't still read it, it would have been censorship.
@Chen-04
...i'm not talking about your idealistic views.
i mean in general, researching for downloads or buying/importing could take the same amount of time. it depends on the experience of the individual.
btw i'm glad people are raging over censorship but at the same time vote down other's comments... society is full of hypocrites.
Nice boat.
The soap and a twig IIRC.
I don't want to see a bigger censor slapped over already annoying censor.
import it?
And then when all the companies shut down we can stand and wonder where it went wrong on our piracy networks while we slowly run out of games to play because everyone is too damn lazy to make a game themselves.
^ i forgot to log on.
We do, from time to time, but that's not the case here.
It's moralfags and feminazis this time.
I personally blame Victorian Britain who decided to infect the world with their stupid morals...
Britons didn't have the highest morals ever you know?
The funny thing is, Japan grows less and less religious, yet their laws are growing more and more draconian. So no, you dumb fuck anon, you can't legitimately blame religion this time.
Idiot. Japanese people practice Buddhism and Shinto. Those religions are not as worried about nudity. It is not religion this time. Less than one percent of Japan practices Christianity. Even less than that are Muslim. So then, how can you blame religion in a region that professes mostly atheism?
I thought Japanese Shinto was the lenient religion? Let's not delve any deeper in this "personal matter".
Blame Steve Jobs or Ballmer or any other Steve for this
Blame capitalism.
@Bazzyrick
I doubt that is the case. There is always a small subset of things that even the most valiant defender of personal rights would like to censor. For example, most people would agree that censoring CP is a good idea, even through possession of explicit graphical content that depicts illegal acts is not a crime by itself regardless of how atrocious act it may be (ie murder, torture, dismemberment, etc...). CP is illegal purely on the premise that people strongly disprove of it as well as dubious and unproven claims about how CP causes child abuse. Sounds familiar? *cough* GTA *cough*
You will have to forgive me if the above sounds somewhat stuck up and that is hardly my intention. I wanted to clarify a common misconception that many people seem to have.
What is CP?
CP is illegal. I highly doubt those who distribute that (or other illegal material) anyway are censoring it. Making your point moot.
*sigh*
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, let me try that again.
The meaning of censorship is not simply putting black bars over genitalia and nipples. To censor means to limit access to information. Making something illegal is an obvious example, regardless of the moral standpoint behind it.
Look at it from another perspective. Making (regular) pornography illegal is also censorship. Everybody recognizes that countries like India are censoring pornographic content. The only difference between the two are moral values, and moral values are subjective.
Bazz, I lol'd warmly at your comment. High quality and very true xD
Win the war next time then Jap's, you'll keep enforcing stupid rules that are meaningless by today's standards until we tell you not to.
The more it's censored, the higher of value the uncensored version, so I think it's a great marketing idea :3
Who are they to tell us what to see and hear?