Square Enix: “We Won’t Release FF13 DLC After All”

have to play lost odyssey too. i didn't have an hdtv back than, and holy shit was there allot of unreadable text in that game.

This is true, however, any hope for improvement in KH3 is as good as gone now. If SE can't take care of their MAIN franchise, what hope is there for the secondaries. So far they've shown

Low opinion, respect for fans and what they want
lack of innovation
lack of level design
laziness
ability to openly break promises or ignore their own words.

well, i hate to do this, but to squares credit, they have been doing far better with real time fighting in the kh style than turnbase combat for quite a while.

you can have some hope for the battle system, but any rpg elements? you can probably for get about those.

Ruin KH? It always sucked, it couldn't possibly be worse.

its not so much as it was linear though, as a fan of the series, i can get over that. what i cant handle is where are all the interesting sidequests? the captivating interaction with NPCs, the secret aeon, the more complex weapon crafting, deeper skills. they've turned the ultimate weapon crafting into grindfest-then-buy-shit. and dont tell me the cieth stones are enough. in the other games there were chocobo raising, card games, chocobo races, the theater in X(or was it only in X-2?). in XIII the most powerful things are the Guis. apart from having a shit ton of health, with the right equipment they're a piece of cake. in X even if you had some characters maxed out and with ultimate weapons, the toughest bosses were still a great challenge. man fuck Square Enix.

From all FF games, FF VII, VIII, XII, IX were the ones I enjoyed the most (in that order).

I think it was obvious in what kind of shit direction FF would be heading after Sony's fiasco with FF movie.

Darkrockslizer

explain what was wrong with the movie? because i didn't think it was bad. i'm a minority in that, but i really didn't think it was bad. i'm not saying its a god among movies, but its not bad, and i remember parts of it and not in a bad way, more than i can say about most movies.

and so you know im talking about sprites within, which i assume you meant.

Fanboy or no, the games were good. As in if people were objective about them, they were good games. If you want to compare games, compare FFXIII to Big Rigs and get some perspective on the true scale of gaming. The game was solid and good, it wasn't groundbreaking and fantastic, it was a solid game. I would like them to do more to exceed themselves, but if you remove the complaints that there wasn't any towns or sidequests, there really isn't that much to complain about. Everyone's complaining about non-issues. You can't complain about something that isn't in the game based on design. You can wish it was there, but the game shouldn't be judged on your wishes, it needs to be judged on what it is.

All the rest is just your preference.

haha another ff fanboy. Go home loser :p

It's possible add Towns,weapons, and new outfit's in the DLC Square?

FFXIII really wasn't that bad, compared to XII and X-2, XIII was actually good. Compared to anything pre-X, it was a terrible game.

Without comparing it to other games constantly, can you honestly say that it wasn't worth playing?

I liked the linear gameplay, it was different, considering how every game wants to be sandbox now. Which is a nice idea, but when EVERY game wants to be open and free, it gets really old.

The game could've been a lot better, but it also could've been a lot worse.

Hopefully Square will go back to the good old days and make amazing games again... One can dream.

Honestly, every single FF was a good game, yes including X-2. The morons who called it "Charlie's Angels" must have stopped playing in less than three hours. I treated it as an FFX epilogue, as it was meant to be. I've always wanted to have a playable epilogue since Lunar 2, and they gave it to me. They also gave me another plot, new characters, and the chance to see the aftermath of what happens to a world after it is clear of its ancient enemy. That may not be enough for many, but I couldn't care less, they did a great job with it, even if it came in a different package.

Anyway, comparing games is really what is killing gaming now. It's not like it's wrong to compare games, but if you blitz through games like nothing, then you're your own worst enemy, because EVERYTHING will start looking the friggan same if you keep playing the same genre over and god damn over again.

Every FF has been a strong, powerful game to anyone who doesn't somehow hop on the stupid bandwagons of people who think they're cool for hating games without even giving them the credit they deserve. So many childish assholes see one bad thing and judge the game's entirety because it doesn't follow their specific expectation, like somehow if the game wasn't made by and for you specifically it's not worth your time.

Anonymous
15:41

game play wise, i liked 12 more than any 3d ff game barring 7 and 9.

story wise... its kind of meh

why does love have to be a focus on so many of these now. maybe if there were open lesbians that are all over each other all the time, without the need of goggles.

@15:41

Compared to XIII, XII was extraordinarily good, like it wasn't a SE product.

My thoughts on it are that I just assumed America wasn't ready for it. I hated the ending, but then I can't stand any writer that thinks killing off a protagonist for the sake of killing them off is good writing. It wasn't the worst offender of it, but still.

The acting in it wasn't really the greatest, the story was that of an american action story, but it actually forced people to think about it which doesn't really work. The inclusion of the lifestream Gaea thing probably was a bit too much for most who weren't already FF fans. Also, I think it was the FF name attached to it which jumbled everyone's expectations, and expectations fuck everything up. I never watch or read reviews because it creates an impression from a source that I have no reason to trust, but unconscious minds can still be influenced on what to think. Plus, most people never grew up out of high school. Most people just latch on to what they hear without realizing it and regurgitate them, pretending they're actually forming their own thoughts.

want the tagline for it, forget everything you know about final fantasy?

Anonymous
17:11

yea, compare ff13 to a broken unfinished game.

you know, if they didn't call this an rpg but an interactive movie i probably wouldn't have cared, i also wouldn't have wasted 8$ and 10 hours on the piece of shit.

FFXIII really wasn't that bad at all, I'm sick of hearing people whine about it. If only the linearity wasn't focussed on so much people wouldn't have played it already prejudging it as shit. For what it was, it was not bad in the slightest. It didn't have the towns, so what, I enjoyed the dang thing. It sure as hell wasn't a horrible game. The plot was pretty solid, the characters were decent, it wasn't a groundbreaking game, but in no way shape or form was it a horrible game.

Oh well, fuck it. Hope they take this time to make something better... their experiment didn't work as they had hoped.

it had a shit "level system" the "party" system was broke as fuck (lets play that one boy who in ANY OTHER GAME i would have killed off and never revived just out of spite, and force you to play with him, having no option to swap him out and use someone infinitival more useful) or here, that retarded as fuck job tree shit. i hated ff10 system, and they just made it again, but without the fucking paths (which if you take wrong RUIN your characters)

i had battles that were over 15 minutes long, because i upgraded the wrong thing, or god forbid, wanted a healer instead of a mage, where i lust spammed x while i watched tv or masturbated (seriously, hit slideshow in my image program and fap fap fap while i hammered x)

o and lets not forget the story, where after playing for 7-10 hours, i still had no FUCKING CLUE WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WAS GOING ON. all i knew was I HATED THAT LITTLE BOY SO MUCH. please tell me he dies, i thankfully rented this game so i only wasted 8$ on it and i want that 8$ and 10 hours back.

It's about time for Square Enix to dissolve itself before it comes to a worse ending.

I disagree completely FFXIII is a terrible game that is extremely linear until Chapter 11 where it becomes only slightly less linear and it has almost no strategy involved and no parity. I can think of only two instances in the entire game to not use a party of Lightning, Fang and Hope. I breezed through the game with no upgrades until chapter 11 and then breezed through the rest after deciding to upgrade. The only strategy comes from fighting the very few optional monsters that have some special condition that makes it harder to stagger them.

Haha, Square Enix is the next KyoAni in terms of trollin' their fans.

I agree with anon 13:55 I did enjoy ff13, its not as horrible as ppl makes it to be.

I didn't know people disliked the KH series that much. I only played 1 and 2 and enjoyed both of them.

actually the kingdom hearts prequels and side games are there so once kingdom hearts 3 comes out we will better understand why they have to defeat xeanort before brith by sleep we had no idea who xeanort is or why he would want kingdom hearts
sora and his friends defeats xeanort's heartless then nobody now they have to defeat the real one

can boobs go into the real world D range, or only into the japan euphemistic D

the game sold at least 1.5 million, that was preorder sales, and than it went down to the 100k range, and sub 100k, tell me how often that happens with good games?

you can use sales figures to tell you how good a game is, expectingly with ff13. after the initial preorder sales, they dropped to almost nothing. even after it was sold for 5$ it still wasn't selling for shit. a game hyped that much and that anticipated should have broke the 5 mill (global) mark in a month.

*Correction

*"increasing playable content up to FFIX(9)"

To alidan:

whoever said to remake FFVII? That piece of overhyped fanboy-victim needs to be laid to rest already.

Final Fantasy series, while being an RPG, is ironically shrinking in terms of content as it progresses, which is weird since devs should be able to increase content as technology gets better.

What happened to making dialogue choices?

What happened to overworlds?

What happened to talking to NPCs?

What happened to varying missions that does not involve only killing turtles?

The only thing surely progressing is the graphics. Square has been gradually increasing playable content up to FFXI. Then FFX gave us severely simplified playing methods. FFXII then tried to continue that trend but all it ended up giving are repetitive missions with the same enemies under different color pallette.

With XIII, it seems they just thought "FUCK THIS SHIT" and proceed to polish the graphics into being so shiny(although Resident Evil 5 still tops it in animation).

What the hell is this shit? What the hell happened to you, Square of Square-Enix...?

im mentioning squares gross incompetence when i mention that 20 years to remake.

and lets be honest here, the best the can possibly do now is a remake. they seam to be doing a damn good job with the ds ones.

now to your point.

"What happened to making dialogue choices?"

for the most part, they had no significance if you chose the wrong thing or not, some games gave multiple endings, but you only want the best ending the game gives, so you really are limited in your options there.

"What happened to overworlds?"

they never realy did much with them. look at mafia 2, its a "free roam" game with an over world but it pushes you in the story, an overworld is only really good when you have content for it specifically, like multiple quest and the like, which most jrpg fail at completely, so it may be a blessing its not there. see, why give you 20 square miles to run around in if you only need to follow the path, and there really isn't much to see off the path?

"What happened to talking to NPCs?"

when have those npcs ever said anything important? id rather them say fuck off than jerk me around making me think i found something.

all in all there i think that they could easily do without if they were just more competent as developers.

hell yeah jrpg DOS pron!!

there have been, but they are extremely under hyped, or you have to look past glaring flaws, which are only present because they were there to begin with, we just didn't care because it was a ps1 game or a ps2 game and it was new.

and
Anonymous
13:58

square has said that its impossible to remake ff7 because its to hard. i shit you not, there is a quote from one of the bigger places that states it would take them 20 years to remake ff7 even with the manpower of the 13 staff working on it.

Seriously. Beautiful 2D sprites > Shitty 3D models. Newer isn't always better...

Also, they completely broke FF3 on the DS...