Square Enix Boss Gets Death Threats Over Xbox 360 FF13
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Sep 8, 2010 17:58 JST
- Tags: Crime, Final Fantasy, Marketing, Ports, Production Controversy, Square Enix, Twitter
Square Enix’s decision to release Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox 360 in Japan, after repeatedly promising it would be a PS3 exclusive, has driven fans into a frenzy, with some becoming so angry as to begin delivering death threats to Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada on his own Twitter account.
After the news of the port’s release became widely reported and confirmed as more than a mere rumour, irate fans descended upon Yoichi Wada’s Twitter account:
Is it true? After saying so many times it would never be released on the Xbox in Japan, if you really do release it nobody will trust your word again.
Say something!
You’re going to betray us after saying it would never come out? I’m cancelling my pre-orders.
You liar!
Lying to customers is how you do business, eh? I’ll never buy a Square Enix title again.
With all the illegal lies and misdirection about FF13 you made, I reported you to the ministry of consumer affairs. And you promised DLC and quietly abandoned it – you’re detestable.
Charlatan!
Stop your pompous waffling and resign! Haven’t you made enough money yet? Next time put a guy who actually loves games in charge.
What’s up with game developers? Practically everything they say is a lie…
Well done, Scrooge.
Hey Wada! What the hell is this about FF13 on the 360 in Japan? You kept advertising the game in all the mags as a domestic PS3 exclusive! If you go through with this nobody’ll trust you again… Honestly I hate you so much I’d like to kill you. Quit soon. This is your last chance.
You’d better be prepared to run, or you’ll be killed! At the very least you ought to be prepared for a few rocks thrown your way!
Whilst such threats can be dismissed as the standard ravings of Square Enix’s increasingly desperate fanbase, Japanese police will make arrests for less, and they certainly demonstrate yet another looming PR disaster.
Wada himself was conspicuously silent in the face on of the onslaught.
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It's sad that people get this bent out of shape over video games.
Make promises, don't keep them, get threats and hate from crazy amounts of people.
Sounds like the American government.
Although most of them are probably PS3 fanboys, I think everyone is pissed off at all the broken promises with no explanation whatsoever than the port announcement itself. They wouldn't get all bent out of shape if they'd announced it as a multiplatform game to begin with.
I also get the feeling that the DLC is being reserved for the 360 port only.
And this company was rated as one of the most trustworthy gaming company in Japanese survey. lol
Time to revise the survey I guess.
fuck you Yoichi Wada! You deserve to be treated shit. MORON!!!!!!!!!
Final Fantasy XIII HAD FANS??!!!!!!
It's a conspiracy: The supposedly 1.5 million copies sold were were all purchased by the Illuminati!
hmm maybe release a International Version like all the main FF games? ability to control all party, can switch any time, no more game over when the party leader is dead, dual language, new game+ theater mode sooo many modes do it Square that's at least you can do for the fans
the game is set to have a 60$ price tag. its already dead.
Ohhhhh, the drama!
Where have I seen something simmilar?...ah, Tales of Vesperia
Honestly who gives a shit?
maybe cuz microsoft offer more money than sony?
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
We really need to stop buying games day 1. I'll never buy games day 1 ever again. I'm betting on Sega to rise from the grave with Valkyria. If that fails then fuck JRPG's unless its a sequel to The Legend of Dragoon.
Just abandon Square already.
Hey crazy otaku, go fuck your body pillow.
I am. But it's overflow with my love juice.
Honestly, this just seem like a huge case of "everyone cares about this shit way too fucking much." As if anyone should be surprised that a corporation lied to them.
Death threats go to far. However, him receiving angry mails is something i can wholeheartedly relate to.
I would be heartbroken if those landmark haijin from FFXI don't make appearances on FFIV. Oh Ext, it's just not Final Fantasy without you bro.
"Stop your pompous waffling and resign!" Toshiro exclaimed, angrily readjusting his monocle.
I remember seeing angry fans on youtube for the same reason. To them, Final Fantasy has always been a Sony franchise and should stay on a Sony console. So I guess every one of us that played and loved 2 and 3 on SNES were just having the same pleasant dream.
Ps3 fanboys are the worst, and even more if theyre japs.
Your going too far by being racist.
How do you know if they're fanboys if they bought a PS3 specifically for that game? When in their minds they would have also thought to buy a Wii instead because of other games.
People still believe in the whole "exclusive" bit?
I really don't understand all the hate over this decision of theirs. You have to be stupid not to see the benefit. Game available for more consoles means more copies sold means more money to pay for development of more games. Games are costing more and more to develop as technology to present them gets higher quality. In my opinion it's retarded to produce games exclusively for one console, a complete and utter waste of money on the game assets.
Sure coercing your code to work on another unit is challenging and requires rewriting some large chunks of code, but it pales in comparison to the development cost of another game, so much so that it can and has saved many of the big game development companies departments. Just look at the Tales of series, if they had stuck with Playstation consoles, they'd already be in the grave, long before some of the best selling titles they ever produced were made.
They lied about multiple aspects of the game they released? Selling a game that is now 5 dollars in the bargain bin right next to Pokemon Red and Blue seems like a major profitable business decision, instead of honoring your word?
1.2-1-4 million XBox360 units are in Japan as far as I know...how is this going to bring in revenue, considering the workload and the infamous status of FF13 (seriously it's like 520 yen)?
If you truly believe what you typed, then remain oblivious to things such as "customer satisfaction, honor, and a passion for your career". Hopefully, we, the stupid people never see your point of view, as it is the most carefully constructed piece of shit I've read all day.
It's pretty obvious by now that honor and passion for their career don't exist. Customer satisfaction SHOULD have existed, for the sake of their ability to hold customer integrity and not lose so many sales. They'd also better hope they don't get sued, because some of the more intelligent people among the masses are probably taking legal action for false advertising.
Sue? A corporation like S-E?
"I'm happy for you, and I'mma let you finish but Square-Enix has got to be one of the largest (swindling)corporations of all time!
OF ALL TIME!"
Seriously, the only way we can REALLY make our point taken by them is by NOT BUYING EVERY PIECE OF SHIT THEY MAKE on release day. Their games' quality is no longer as consistent as it used to be to warrant blind purchase.
Of course, we won't see that happen, thanks to false advertising and past glory.
Who cares if it's on another console heck I don't even care if it gets ported to the iPad and Android devices.
And what about Mass Effect 2 ? Tales of Vesperia ? Eternal Sonata ? Bioshock and so on ?
Those ridiculous fanboys, I get rid of them. They must just stop complaining and play their PS3, if the're so proud of it.
(I say that and I have a PS3, I'm just bored of the Pro-S/Pro-M...)
Hehehehehehe, gimme a fuckin' break, seriously? He's been threatened with DEATH over putting the game out on another console as well??? Get the fuck over it, people. So elitist it's disgusting. Grow up.
Was it right of them to change their minds after say vehemently that it wouldn't happen? Probably not but they're a company and companies exist to make money. Apparently they think they'll make money on it. It's a POS anyway, who really cares? With all the bad decisions S/E has made lately I'd be really surprised if they're still in business, in their current form, in two years.
S/E has gone from the top, to the bottom in the past year or two. If they don't serve up the goods they're famous for then good riddance. We don't need more crappy/mediocre delevopers.
Sark
akkks, i just buy ps3 only to play ff ,
Oh look, It's evangelion all over again.
If someone grants a favor to you, you shall repay the favor.
That being said, If a PS3 would be going over to XBOX, then XBOX shall return a similar rating game back to PS3.
They get Mass Effect 2, no complaints given. We get FF13 and suddenly the nation teeters over a cliff of rage.
They need to clench their teeth and hold their tongues. if they didn't help make the game or contribute funds to its development then they should accept Wada-san's decision or don't buy the game. The world isn't fair.
That's where you're wrong. A game's sales help the creators earn back what they used to create it. They made promises about the product they sold and then decided to back out on it after everyone already bought it.
The person who reported them to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs had every right to do so, because the product did not deliver what the creators promised. While it is only a video game, this is fraud.
AH fanboys, showing your insanity since 90 something.
lol
Is it even getting any bonuses to the game? Major additions, DLC or otherwise? I sure don't see any info implying such. Final Fantasy fans are worse than the Tales ones.
I don't get it.
The Japanese are getting mad about a game they very obviously didn't like being released on a system they don't like. Do they not see this or do they like bitching for the sake of it?
It's got more to do with keeping promises. They outright LIED about DLC and PS3 exclusivity after they've mentioned those aspects so many times to market the game. I myself personally don't care about another console having a port, but I am wondering if I can really trust the word of Square Enix ever again after hearing about this. Maybe they'll say something like "This time, there really WILL be DLC! We promise!" or "This game will have all these features!" but I wouldn't be sure if I can really believe that because they lied before, so I would be hesitant to buy the game. If they make any more promises, then I'll hold onto my money until they can actually keep their promise.
Anyone that believes a company about exclusivity, in the market that exists right now for gaming, is a damn fool.
Apparently anyone who believes in a company's marketing is also a fool right now as well. These companies wonder why they're losing so much money these days when they had such a great thing going for so long. Here's an idea for them; long ago customer service and loyalty meant something to a lot of people. You delivered on your promises, you gave customers a reason to want to come back, and surprise, they did. These days companies have for whatever unfathomable reason switched to a "bleed the customer dry" method of business where they do whatever it takes to wring another sale out of the few fans they have left.
It's not a sustainable model of business, but sadly the CEOs making millions of dollars a year are only interested in the short term gains. It's happening in every industry right now, and likely a large factor in the economic problems we face today. Back when they were only making a bit more than the grunts at the company they had to actually work hard to keep things successful and afloat. Now they're just trying to make as much money in as short a time span as possible before they bail on the then fucked company with enough money for them to never work again in pocket.
Who CARES if it's on the xbox 360 in japan?? Most japanese don't play the xbox anyway.. why should it bother them?
Hey idiots, try read some of the comments the NEET are saying up there.
If you can't tell, they're pissed BECAUSE SQUARE-ENIX blatantly fucking LIED to them about the release. It's hardly PS3 fanboys defending the exclusivity of FF13 on their precious console. It's the fact that Squeenix repeatedly said they would NOT release it, then they suddenly go around and say that they will. Meaning that it will be difficult to take them seriously the next time they say something "real" because of the BAD PRECEDENT that this sets.
Fuck man, people are too quick to start console fanboy wars.
*points at stupid sony fanboy* HAHA!
As developer/puplisher i would always try to release my games as on many platforms as possible, except Sony, M$ or Nintendo pays me big bucks for not doing so. ^^
Oh all our hopes for exclusive is down the drain...
lol wada dont bother putting ff13 in 360 in japan coz lost odessey pwns f13
sakaguchi kicked your ass wada
wow i cant believe people are making news and actually believing on those troll's attempts,this is really really sad
lol 'charlaton'
death threats don't have the impact they used to...
Wait, why is this bad?
Those cowards would never follow through, even if it were about something that was actually important.
Sorry if i'm wrong but aren't these guys mad because of Wadas constant lying and not because of some sense of fanboyism, lets see what happened here, Wada first starts with XIII being ps3 exclusive, then he says its gonna be released on 360, but guess what, only in the west, he later also says it will never get a japanese release forcing some 360 owners to buy a ps3 or wait until it was released in the west to import, then he says that XIII was getting dlc and now a few months later he says its not getting dlc and also announces that XIII is getting a 360 release in japan, is it really that hard to imagine that people would be pissed about these decisions and constant lying, and now with the uncertainty of versusXIII ps3 exclusivity, if Wada decides to make versus multiplat of course people are going to be pissed, and coupled with the questionable quality of their games in the last few years its a wonder why some people still havent lost faith in SE, and imo its all because of Wada and is business decisions
Why can't they just cover it up by saying they brought back the leftovers that won't sell from overseas?
SE choose to regionlock the 360 versions, so they're not leftovers. Nice try thou, dumbass.
Why should they "cover anything up"? Why should they even mind "excuse" themselves or anything? It's business, it is their product, they want to make money of it.
First of all, a reaction similar to "I've been betrayed!! You promised the game would be released only for PS3 and now you release it for Xbox360!! I don't believe you anymore and I am canceling all my preorders of your products!!! I hate you!!!" points at unstable psychology, these psychos must see a shrink.
Second thing: if the gave loses its platform exclusivity - does it become worse?! You bought a game which was exclusive for PS3, you played it, may be even not once, you loved it. Now it becomes available for, let's say, Xbox360. Does it make your copy for PS3 worse? Does it meant the company won't be able to produce another grate game? Don't be ridiculous. Those hysterics should mind their mental state.
The PS3 version ended up worse off simply by the mere existence of the 360 port, mostly because of SquareEnix's retarded policy of having feature parity between the two versions of the game. If you look way back at the original screen shots and tech demo for FF13 when it was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive, it had a lot more polygons in the character designs, and didn't seem nearly as jagged, which implies a higher level of anti-aliasing.
Now, it could be that these simply had to be toned down to improve the game's frame rate, but the more likely situation is that in order for the Crystal Tools package they made the game with to be portable to the 360 easily, they lowered the overall maximum quality level to whatever the 360 could do without being specifically optimized for it. The two systems can seemingly hit equal graphics if a game is designed specifically for a particular console, but the ported version is almost always compromised in some way. I highly doubt SquareEnix came up with the magic programming tools to get around this kind of issue.
Also, with blu-ray storage, this time around there was absolutely no reason whatsoever to not give fans the Japanese language track on the international release. The reason is simple. The 360 version was already on multiple DVDs even compromising the FMVs down to a lower resolution, so it couldn't fit the extra audio track. Both versions couldn't have it, so neither could. Their policies these days just really piss me off, and I can't say I wouldn't like to see Wada dethroned if someone who gives a crap taking his place would improve things.
"If you look way back at the original screen shots and tech demo for FF13 when it was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive, it had a lot more polygons in the character designs, and didn't seem nearly as jagged, which implies a higher level of anti-aliasing."
Photoshop would like a word with you
I'm sorry, but it's pretty blatantly clear that there was a level of quality displayed before the 360 port was announced, and then as soon as they decided to port Crystal Tools over to XBox, the quality tool a noticeable dive. You can cry Photoshop or vertical slices all you want, but these are the people who maximized the power of every single system they coded for in the past. The jaggies on the final version, considering the PS3's power, are pretty strong evidence that compromises were made at the development tool level.
And what excuses do you have for their leaving out the Japanese language track this time? Please, be more apologist for them. And I'm saying this as someone who has bought their games since the SNES era, including importing from the PS2 on. Their company has just gone down the shit hole in the last few years, and there are really not legitimate excuses left for them.
those are target renders based on what they believe the specs of the system can push.
they do that allot in early development because it will be months/years before anything showable is ready.
well it loses graphics, but thats relative. uncharted takes full advantage of the ps3, and it looks great because of that, and same thing with the gears series.
i'm surprised why nobody has threatened bamco's boss for bringing the "supposedly exclusives" tales of graces and tales of vesperia to PS3.
another stupid fool! namco never advertised their tales game as 360 exclusive. u tard.
"You’re going to betray us after saying it would never come out? I’m cancelling my pre-orders."
......what preorder?
FF....nah can't be....if so that would mean the guys is canceling the preorder he made for a game he didn't wanted to come out.
Sure, it was a misrepresentation, but I like multiple platforms. It bugs me when a cool looking game comes out and it's only for some console I don't have.
Nobody has an Xbox in Japan so this seems like they're doing it just because they can.
so.... what's so horrible about that? ö-ö
I think it's good, because not everyone has a PS3.
...would be wonderous if Namco would do an international release of ToV on PS3 though, since not everyone has an Xbox either...
the game still ass regardless anyway. i have it for my ps3 worst ff game i ever played.
ah lolz drama!! those guys need to relax.
death threads - Japanese national sport ?
This is just schizophrenics having an exacerbation..
im schitzophrenic and i aint going ape shit lol i just dont give a damn about FF13 cuz A. i dont want to fuck over my ps3, B. i have better things to buy like guns and upgrading my computer.
i still remember when otakus made death threats to the director of evangelion because of the last two episodes
I do, otaku love to talk shit. thou they rarely back up their boasts.
i dont think they said it was ps3 owners ANYWHERE that were upset
They sure as hell are not 360 owners...
you cant see the pissed 360 owners that are having the shit put on there console. it was something to laugh at on the ps3 when the price hit 5$ a copy of that game, what, not even a quarter after the games launch.
So, you are talking about in Japan only right? Because last time I checked it was about 20$ just like Bayonetta, Mass Effect 2, and Dante's Inferno. And when I worked retail Christmas 2010 it sold quite well actually, now not anywhere as well as CoD: Black Ops or Halo Reach but considering they had just been released and this one had been out about a year I don't think that's too shabby. I don't know about 5$, but that might just be a regional thing.
So essentially they're complaining that other people get to play it? :(
I know that there is an issue of loyalty involved in regards to Japanese gamers but someone else being able to play a video game should not in any way affect how you yourself enjoy the game.
no its 360 fans that dont what the piece of shit on there console.
What if some rabid fan bought ps3 just to get to play this game, since it was marketed as ps3-exclusive, only to hear later that he really didn't need to buy the console after all?
I think fans aren't angry because people who own the xbox get to play the game too. They are angry because the company lied to them.
you might have a point there but on the other hand buying a console just because of a single game is rather stupid...
if 1 game would make you but that console, you wouldn't wait a year for it to be ported, especially if you bought it day 1 before the THIS GAME BLOWS COCK was well known
you made a point there lucky for me i bought it cause Metal gear Solid 4 and if it would have been released for xbox i would def be one of this guys...
...I hate to break it to you, but I think it has been now.
Don't forget that you can pirate it for the 360.
And on the PS3! : D
Companies lie all the time, just like politicians. People should know by now.
Somebody mind telling me what's all the commotion from this DLC? I hardly see what else could be added to this title. You still can't make this a good crap regardless how you polish it.
With a whole 1.2 million Japanese 360s sold, I doubt that is the same.
This is more about otaku and Japanese nationalism, than it is about someone who foolishly bought a PS3, thinking it really was an exclusive.
They sound like little whiney children who want no one else to play with their toy.
The PS3 is getting Mass Effect 2 and no one is crying about that.
how long has the mass effect franchise been on the Xbox? now compare that to how long Final Fantasy has been on a playstation. thats why nobody's "crying" about mass effect
I'm happy the ps3 is getting ME2.
It just means more people will be able to enjoy the awesome game that I enjoyed for many hours/days.
I think the japanese should think the same way with FFXIII & ps3/360. Im sure people dont all have both consoles, so they should be cool with people that only have 360's playing the game they CLEARLY enjoy.
(If I'm not mistaken ME2 is a "only on 360" title like ME1 is)
(If I'm not mistaken ME2 is a "only on 360" title like ME1 is)
Not anymore, a port is gonna be on Ps3 in the bioware site itself, they announced it with "tons of more extra hours", probably all the dlc already released on 360.
u stupid fool. it's because SE kept saying FF13 was exclusive but kept going against their word.
Bioware on the other hand never said ME2 was exclusive. They just never commented.
What word? You people are acting like Square has never pulled a fast one before, International Editions have existed since VII and are nothing more than a way to milk a title. If post-SNES era Square had any honor, those things would never exist to begin with.
well i'm a bit sad about it, not because they are getting it, but because of the direction i think bioware is headed, more casual games, and appeal to retards who cant play the games the way the fans of old bioware want them
you could say the same of when they made the move from pc to 360. can't say they've won me over with any of their recent titles
i'm just hoping that fan reactions and them screaming THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING is enough to get them to listen, because it use to.
Heh I rarely remember having all my medigel on ME1, and the overheat system was a great way to mess things up except when the game glitched and just never went down 100%, as ME2 I only died because of the glitches :/, like instant death when finishing a mission, opening a door, walking... etc etc.
Guess something like Baldur's Gate or even Neverwinter are and will be just a memory.
@alidan
Actually, I did piss off Jack in Miranda's favor...
mass effect 1 i gave it to them because that was built as a 3rd person shooter with rpg elements
and dragon age 1, ill give it to them because on the console that was little more than a port, VERY LITTLE MORE THAN A PORT.
but mass effect 2... FUCK YOU BIOWARE, take almost all the rpg out of the game, and the fact i didn't die not fucking once.
here i thought i was going to have to piss crew members off to get others to like me, no...
i thought there would be more wepons and armor... well armor system is all but gone, and fuck you weapons, there was little reason to ever swap weps.
mass effect 1 was a far funner game, mass effect 2 had a better produced story, not better, just bigger budget.
and levels? the fuck was that half ass shit?
dragon age 2? we haven't seen anything official yet i believe, and only the console version was shown at pax i believe.
dragon age 2 is probably going to be the last game that i watch from them, after that, if they fuck it up, i dont care. ill probably youtube the best end of mass effect 3 with tali, because that is what my save from mass effect 1, and mass effect 2 are striving for.
Mass effect Suck.
It's FPS disguise as an RPG.
Fallout 3 is better
you suck dicks, sir
Lol Mass Effect = first person shooter?
I guess your eyeballs must float somewhere behind your back.
Fallout 3 is really good but so is mass effect they are both just great games its not worth comparing great games on each other and i have only one problem with mass effect 2 going to ps3 they aint getting mass effect 1 from what i have heard :(
Yeah, that kinda sucks for PS3 users. They won't get to carry over everything through all three games. =/
fallout 3 is a dissapointment compared to 1 and 2. play them and you will see why, not worth going into it here.
What? It does? This is outrageous! We need to send death threats to BioWare now!
i have a 360 and a ps3 and i still don't care about that game. i like jrpgs better.