Chinese Martial Artists “Pathetically Unskilled”

4000 years of history.. down the drain.
True martial arts exist, but its a dying tradition.
Why?

Nowadays, its too easy to find a martial arts dojo within your neighborhood. I lament that its all too easy to find some random skill to show off with.

Take for example the following:
- a taekwondo black belt can be easily gang raped and killed by 4 unskilled thugs.

- 5 arrogant youngsters claiming to be kungfu practitioners challenged me (because I was looking their way), and lost.

The reason is simple. (1)They aren't learning things right, and (2)not enough experience. Fighting with rules and fighting without rules.

Before the techniques, you must have the right foundation.
Before the right foundation, you must be right of heart.

If you want to watch Martial Art at its best. Heres a video I found in youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhXbpPa1Uo

I'm not expert in real fighting matters but I thought Drunken fist (or whatever it is) does not mean you must be literally drunk (O.o)

Elizabeth Bennet will not be the least bit pleased to read this post.

The last comment wins lol.

Honestly though, the comment about cultural revolution and the government cracking down on its arts is the reason why so many od its people are out of touch with their history and arts.

Regular ol' boxing, muay thai or kickboxing are all you need to learn. Anything else & you're a complete retard

現代の"ルールと時間制限ありの良い子の武術、武道"が実戦で弱いのは当たり前。実戦じゃそんなもの無いんだから。WW2以前の武道、例えば剣道は実戦、つまり殺し合いを想定してたんだよ。だから戦前の剣道を習っていたおじいさんの気迫は鬼気迫るものらしいね。

Moderne "beperkte martial-regel en de goede zoon, gevechtssporten," is van nature zwak in de strijd. Nou ik weet niet wat te bestrijden. WW2 vorige vechtsporten, kendo te bestrijden bijvoorbeeld, was ik ervan uit dat het doden. Grootvader was de geest van de vooroorlogse kendo lessen biedt het kwam zo dicht 鬼

Modern "limitado militar pamumuno at ang mabuting anak na lalaki, militar sining," ay natural mahina sa labanan. Well ako hindi kung ano ang labanan. WW2 nakaraang militar sining, kendo labanan halimbawa, ako ay sa pagpapalagay na pagpatay. Lolo's espiritu ay ang pre-digmaan kendo lessons ito ay nag-aalok ay dumating upang isara 鬼 気. 気.

"Take a world renowned martial artist such as Bruce Lee. He is widely believed to be a first rate combatant, but in reality he was extremely myopic and hardly competed at all. People think he’s an American national karate champion, but in fact his real level is just a Hong Kong high school amateur boxing champion."

all of this are bullshit!

after watch those videos...karate just shit!

On a podcast called Anime Pulse, the host, Ichigo, occasionally mentions the hate between china and Japan. Sankaku jus5t serves to illustrate this hatred even more

russian hand to hand combat is one of the strongest martial arts,don't show us your japanese karate, only kudo is usable

two words:

Ip Man.

lol akkido can kick any asses if he combines any other striking sport

There are way too many staged and arranged "tournaments". Money buys the winner. Real martial artists, as in those that Live for the sport, would probably be all too happy to challenge some of those statements.

who the fk said chinese were the best martial artist?

Coming from a past mma back ground, I gotta say that I feel insulted about this post!
I feel that no one here understand what martial arts are and are making a mockery out of the sport and using it as a weapon to stereo type a race!
Being from a MMA environment most of my friends are Japanese, Korean and Chinese, Tai. Etc and all of which are not closed minded such the comments you guys made here!
These videos show individuals with no skill in the martial arts. I mean come on the guys missed a shed load of openings to tackle the dude’s leg to the floor when raised for high kicks which is one of the weaknesses in karate, judo, aikido and jug jitsu but that does not make the art bad, it just means that the practitioner must wait for opening, while avoiding attacks and capitalise. The guys in this get hit and do nothing, if i was well and was still practicing as soon as the dude hit me i would hold the let drop and twist, dislocating it as that would stop the attack! You know some masters don’t even fight like in the moves, They can stare each other down rather than fight. It’s this generation of media that is spoiling people presumptions of the art. True practitioners and masters don’t show off as if they did then allot more people would be killed by the art. Most old school masters i know are even doctors as the art is supposed to show you how to defend and heal.
NOTE to all that martial arts was not only for health and longevity but infect protection like the accent monks of old and generally a way of life!
Do your research if you are even interested, and if not then don’t have an opinion about something you know nothing about. Just become the current media such as movies and tv shows stereotype it.
The Chinese kung fu guy in this 1st vid has no skill and it would not surprise me if this was a ruse to make the art look bad, for one all are speaking Japanese, where other judges from different countries? Europe for example. You can’t take a stereo type like this and then try and rationalise it!
I mean come on, these comments bastardising Chinese people have no place here in the world, yes Chinese (the country) has been doing allot recently which can be looked down upon, but these choices that the country is making is because of capitalism part of which is control of information via their government so to control their people, just like religion does in western society (note: faith is good, mans interpretation and changing of faith is bad aka “religion”!) Chinese people are not to blame and should not be ladled as you can’t generalise on a race, how would you like it?
If so and i fort like some of the people here, then I’d be talking about how the Japanese raped pillaged and plundered Korea, china, and most of Asia in the past and recently say they have struck it from the history books, not quite learning from there past sins huh! Infect looking at past thence, Japan has a lot to answered for, but you know what. fook as its government pushed the people to do these things and the new generation and western Asians should not be put under the same scrutiny because of their ancestors actions in the same way that all Chinese should not be ladled as loud and interrupting, Does anyone here even know any Chinese people? I mean from my experience there curios much like Japanese are and other Asian, as they tend to treat people like they want to be treated, which if I’m not mistake as the whole world does!

MMA is the closest thing to a full-out fight that's legal and publicly available. There are no well ranked pros out there who do kung fu in MMA. Everyone uses kickboxing, jujitsu, boxing, wrestling, and sambo. Kung fu is art, but it's not a serious MARTIAL art.

Also, it's surprising that there are no top ranked Chinese in MMA, even though they're so numerous. Maybe better nutrition and such is a factor, but there are many top rated fighters and champs from only moderately richer countries, like Brazil. This suggests that the martial art of choice is the problem.

I dont know if it's practical or not but I do know if they are not put into real practice, it's not going to work the way you dream it. Try practicing driving a car in a video game, then take it onto the street. I can assure you, you are going for a crash course. If I have to say which is the best "kungfu", I opt ultimate fighter. Cause one tackle like that, there ain't no chance in hell, your fancy crane praying mantis monkey fist of fury going to help.

Quote: Karate is the strongst.

But isn't Karate a Chinese martial arts, considering that is was originally named "tang fist" (a dynasty in China during the time Karate was developed) and only named to "empty fist" (same pronounciation, different kanji) very later out of political reasons before the breakout of the 2nd world war?

Has no-one mentioned that "Karate" actually means "Chinese hand / martial art from China". Even the Japanese borrow Chinese martial arts to develop their own Karate style. I am not saying Karate is weak or so, but if you say Chinese Kung Fu sucks, then you are saying the source you used to develop Karate sucks.

As for the Drunken Fist & Praying mantis youtube videos, they are obvious Japanese guys mimicking these styles (the ones in movies not the genuine style); a big mistakes they make are making turns/roundhouse kicks and loosing your opponent's position, loosing sight of your opponent is a no go; another is constantly retreating and being afraid that your opponent's gonna hit you. In a real fight you have to be in a better position than your opponent, just like in a war, if you retreat you loose. Real Kung Fu have solid stances (basic stance: horse/bow; Wing Chun: Goat etc.). Without a good stance you will be on the floor in no time. A poor kung fu practioner made often this mistake by having a poor/weak stance. Almost every beginners of kung fu (whether it's Shoalin, Wing Chun etc.) are forgetting the basics and are just willing to learn the fancy or the socalled killer moves (i.e. skipping the basics and just learn the advance level techniques; obvious they are not ready to fight).

And for Kung Fu you really need to go to/watch in Hong Kong where Bruce Lee/Jacky Chan comes from (especially if you want to practise Wing Chun or Hung Gar etc.). And in mainland China, many claimed (even in China) that wushu has no spirit and is only for show. Even the Shoalin Temple in mainland China is for tourists only (with their acorbatic shows). So the Japanese actually means Wushu and not Kung Fu.

And my impression is that a large part of the Japanese people think Kung Fu is Bruce Lee style (Jet Kune Do), while it's a collective noun for all sorts of styles of Chinese Martial Arts.

sounds like some shit head talking out of his ass.

"Take a world renowned martial artist such as Bruce Lee. He is widely believed to be a first rate combatant, but in reality he was extremely myopic and hardly competed at all. People think he’s an American national karate champion, but in fact his real level is just a Hong Kong high school amateur boxing champion."

This phrase is so full of shit I can feel the page turning brown.

I don't follow Martial Arts, because they look boring and silly. When it comes to fantasy I prefer guns there too, because I got bored with melee while watching hercules on saturday mornings.

Here's my imagine of MA, correct me if I'm wrong. MMA is the closest to a real fight (just missing hitting the tender parts), but it ends up like this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/15/

Im going to have to disagree about Bruce Lee.

Here's a much better video than all those boring old man fights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgFFivfkfgE&feature=related [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgFFivfkfgE&feature=related]

Well, this fight is a little unfair for the Japanese fighter because his opponent is much taller than he is, but they're both the best of their weight and age bracket in their respective countries.

chinese can copy everything even trash

It's called Ulimate Fighting Champsionship.

All styles should put up or shut up.

Chinese should just follow Bruce Lee's Jeet Khun Doo.

Ahahaha, that first Kyokushin vs. Chinese_wtf fight was golden.

LEG GRABS NOT ALLOWED. Sure that chinese whatever isn't even considered to be martial art (not to mention serious martial art) anywhere outside of Asia, but not letting the guy to grab Karate guy's legs? that's like BEATING OUR KARATE CHAMPION NOT ALLOWED RULE.

No surprise Japanese Karate is so fucking worthless nowadays, when they have to resolve to such tricks to 'win' a match.

Truth to be told, European Koykushin school matched their japanese skills in 70ties and since 80'es till now Japan faggots are too afraid to invite anyone of renown from France, Holland or Ukraine to their tournaments.

Real full-contact Karate match involves throwing straight punches at mindboggling speeds and lots and lots of lowkicks (the lowkick, lowkick, lowkick meme is actually very true in real life). It isn't Hollywood level of flashy, but when you consider speed and strength at which they throw their punches and that they take it on basically 'naked chests' it's really impressive.

High kicks are very, very rarely used, since it's so easy to block, evade or deflect one.

And if you're looking for self defence and general combat, instead of martial ART, you should simply train multiple martial arts, though boxing alone is awesomely useful in street fights.
For example, boxing (for proper garde, no japanese crap even comes close), Karate for general punches/kicks and Judo for fighting on the ground and throws is extremly effective combination. you can add/remove Mulay Thai or some kickboxing to the mix, as long as you're training multiple fighting styles that complement themselves you're fine.

That quote is absolute bullshit. Leaving aside that the guy clearly doesn't know ANYTHING about kung fu, he doesn't even know anything about the actors he cited: Jackie Chan, for example, was not a kung fu practitioner; drunken style isn't even a FIGHTING style, it IS just for show. And, god bless him, kung fu is NOT just about forms. Lol.

The best kung fu practioner I've seen is an Afghani master:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CIy9ZZEQE

Real masters dont show off their years of training in front of people to declare fame.There are many styles in chinese Kungfu (now called wushu),each has their own weaknesses,so its up to a practioner to train to perfect his/her arts.Hence the name Kung-Fu means "results of the exercise/training".

The deadliest martial arts in the modern times belong Israel--->its called Krav Maga.Its so deadly its devided into 2 types,the one for the public teaching and the one for military and intelligence community.

"Drunken fist is a total lie though, no way can you gain strength by drinking"
What idiot thinks they actually get drunk

"Kung fu is like Japanese ninja – just people who have been imaginatively turned into supermen."
Ninjitsu is just displayed as such the actual thing uses proper techniques and is a good part focused on concealing various weapons on the body

"Kung fu is just for show, with no real practical use. Like taekwondo."
this persons clearly never seen taekwondo its one of the least flashy martial arts out he proabably mistook it for hapkido which is usually taught along side tae kwon do is actually usefull

Theses "experts" on 2ch are idiots

Hard Martial arts> Soft Martial arts> Grappling arts> Hard Martial arts

I'm just going to leave this here. http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

Coming from a past mma back ground, I gotta say that I feel insulted about this post!

I feel that no one here understand what martial arts are and are making a mockery out of the sport and using it as a weapon to stereo type a race!

Being from a MMA environment most of my friends are Japanese, Korean and Chinese, Tai. Etc and all of which are not closed minded such the comments you guys made here!

These videos show individuals with no skill in the martial arts. I mean come on the guys missed a shed load of openings to tackle the dude’s leg to the floor when raised for high kicks which is one of the weaknesses in karate, judo, aikido and jug jitsu but that does not make the art bad, it just means that the practitioner must wait for opening, while avoiding attacks and capitalise. The guys in this get hit and do nothing, if i was well and was still practicing as soon as the dude hit me i would hold the let drop and twist, dislocating it as that would stop the attack!

You know some masters don’t even fight like in the moves, They can stare each other down rather than fight. It’s this generation of media that is spoiling people presumptions of the art. True practitioners and masters don’t show off as if they did then allot more people would be killed by the art. Most old school masters i know are even doctors as the art is supposed to show you how to defend and heal.

NOTE: to all that martial arts was not only for health and longevity but infect protection like the accent monks of old and generally a way of life!

Do your research if you are even interested, and if not then don’t have an opinion about something you know nothing about. Just become the current media such as movies and tv shows stereotype it.

The Chinese kung fu guy in this 1st vid has no skill and it would not surprise me if this was a ruse to make the art look bad, for one all are speaking Japanese, where other judges from different countries? Europe for example. You can’t take a stereo type like this and then try and rationalise it!

I mean come on, these comments bastardising Chinese people have no place here in the world, yes Chinese (the country) has been doing allot recently which can be looked down upon, but these choices that the country is making is because of capitalism part of which is control of information via their government so to control their people, just like religion does in western society (note: faith is good, mans interpretation and changing of faith is bad aka “religion”!) Chinese people are not to blame and should not be ladled as you can’t generalise on a race, how would you like it?

If so and i thought like some of the people here, then I’d be talking about how the Japanese raped pillaged and plundered Korea, china, and most of Asia in the past and recently say they have struck it from the history books, not quite learning from there past sins huh! Infect looking at past thence, Japan has a lot to answered for. but you know what, fook it as government pushed the people to do these things and the new generation and western Asians should not be put under the same scrutiny because of their ancestors actions in the same way that all Chinese should not be ladled as loud and interrupting, Does anyone here even know any Chinese people? I mean from my experience there curios much like Japanese are and other Asian, as they tend to treat people like they want to be treated, which if I’m not mistake as the whole world does!

Taekwondo is the best. Muay Thai is great too. Karate is only for weaboos.

It's not the martial art; it's the martial artist.

Of course there are no really "real world" effective fighting techniques left any more. People don't go out and regularly get into life and death fights these days. And you can't practice real disabling or killing blows. A veteran foot soldier in the Sengoku Jidai would take out the best Japanese swordfighter today, because he's survived battles with people who wanted to kill him and had a three foot long razor blade to do it with.
The problem is you can't practice maiming and killing people, because you, y'know, go to jail for it.
That said, I've seen a few videos showing street punks getting snotty with people who are trained in ACS or MMA fighters getting taken out pretty fast.

I'll admit my "official" MA training is limited to a few weeks of karate-like training, and any fighting skills I had before that was aquired somewhat like Terry Bogard's was (getting into fights on the streets as a kid and getting beat on 'till you catch on to how not to get beat on).

Taking both into account:
> Fighting is a graceless, ugly business: That smooth flowing of one move into another that you see in the movies and the training hall practice forms doesn't exist. What I've often experienced in fights was 2 or more people simultaneously trying to punch, block, dodge, kick & wrestle each other.
> Those forms you practice serve at least 2 main purposes: To get you into the habit of properly executing punches, blocks & kicks; To ingrain at least some basic attack/defensive routines into your instinctive reflexes.
> There's really only so much you can do strategy-wise: Overwhelm your opponent(s) with an attack/counter attack combining speed, strength & power all at once; Neutralize your opponent(s)'s ability to attack or defend by constraining & restraining the movement of his arms and legs; Employ some combination of the aforementioned strategies. All MAs should have basic moves & techniques for employing those strategies.

The point of weapons, I'm told, is to attack from a safe distance or attack in a way that can't be countered easily. The way to have a chance at fighting an armed opponent unarmed is to get real close to negate the distance advantage.

If martial artists are unskilled, they haven't been practicing their basics enough or showing bad judgement in how they use them.

There's probably more that could be said, but I'll limit my underinformed 2 cents to this.

Mc Donald's i beating the crap out of everyone they are so fat now that no one is an oponent but besides who are we kidding nowdays almost everybody can kill a master with a gun, unless you have a really bad aim you are bound to win

Actually, in martial arts, it is not the matter how superior is the other. it is precision, timing, speed, "clean" and power. Different martial arts have their own pro and cons. It is up to the fighter not the martial art itself.

And also, chinese kung fu is lack of kumite/sparring.
But, I can tell, if one truly understand the art of one martial art and perform well, it is considered to be very very powerful already.

I am a former chinese kungfu and taichi practitioner, and currently my mainstream is aikido and taekwondo.
I know how all of them works, but to able to use it in real fight, it is different case.

So, I would say:
none of the martial art is bullshit. If you (maybe just few years of training) try to fight with a master class of a different martial art, i think the chances of winning is not plausible at all.

That Shotokan fight at the end was pure. I've seen what fighters are trained to do at higher levels - at first it's about learning the techniques, then it pushes focus strikes. I'm just kind of surprised nobody posted a Kyokushinkai fight in response, it's revered in Japan.

I am a kung fu practitioner, and i've seen many of the flaws in the training and have tried to rectify them in my own training. One thing i know for sure after so long is that the style really doesn't matter, as long as you know how to apply it. There are more obviously applicable styles like Hung Gar and Wing Chun that focus on basic technique, and strength and speed respectively. But for the most part, kung fu needs to be applied correctly more than anything else.

The flowery or acrobatic styles are applicable but only in a limited fashion, and too many people think that the flowery moves are the powerful ones. It's rally not the case. Real kung fu is not invincible; no style is. What it comes down to is the person fighting and how smart they are with their training. If they know how to apply it, it doesn't matter what the style is. They'll win.

A lot of Kung Fu is impractical, but Monkey Kung-Fu and Drunken Fist do work, as they're not really all that fancy, and rely heavily on swift punches. Drunken fist can look fancy, but it can be used without all the dodging tricks too, since it really is fast.

Wing-chun is definitely practical too, just not for competition, since it revolves around hitting pressure points and outright debilitating the opponent, rather than relying on brute force.

Shaolin Kung Fu is one of the oldest forms of martial arts, and mostly uses very practical and efficient self-defense techniques, in addition to throws and throw escapes.

Thins like Tai-chi and whatnot that require fancy stances and spins are definitely more for show, but there are definitely very practical forms of kung-fu that are much more different in style.

Goddammit! What an absurd article!

"Kung fu is just for show, with no real practical use. Like taekwondo."

And then they "informed" that Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee are poor fighters? ... That's all about sensationalism or even the chinese people are looking too much into the "rule-limited" fighing competitions?

It remounts the old discussion about TMA vs MMA(former "Vale-Tudo"). Very vague, lots of arguments from both sides. As a martial arts practitioner, my opinion is simple and direct:

The MMA has an advantage over "normal" TMAs in terms of fighting efficiency(with empty hands at least). BUT if the TMA is SOMEWHAT involved with the military training(like Krav Maga,San Soo or even the original forms of some famous MAs), then this TMA has an advantage over the MMA. Perhaps not in the ring, but everyone knows the difference between a competition and a real fight situation...right? If you don't, think about it.

No Mention of Karv Naga or Marine Martial Arts? I am dissapont.

I find it odd how they can call Bruce Lee unskilled, then call out Kung-Fu for being "flashy and impractical". While it's true that Bruce Lee didn't compete much, Chuck Norris admitted that Bruce Lee was above his level, and he was an 8th-degree blackbelt at the time. Not to mention, they're right, Bruce Lee didn't compete much; he was getting in REAL street fights, not that MMA crap where you can't hit here and there or use this and that.

These people are clearly idiots who can't tell the difference between competition and a real fight. In a real fight, sticking your head underneath someone's arm to try to take them down is just ASKING to get killed by an elbow to the spine.(most average-size people can kill someone instantly with a full-force elbow to the spine) But incidentally, elbows aren't allowed in competition. Neither are groin kicks, eye gouges, hitting pressure points, breaking bones, chokes, hitting the back of the head, etc. They talk about these limitations like they're very insignificant, but the fact of the matter is that the most efficient forms of kung-fu, aikido, etc. are completely useless with such rules.

Do you know WHY there aren't many serious Aikido practitioners in competition? It's because Aikido is strictly self-defense. These guys don't screw around; they WILL use choke holds, they WILL break bones, they WILL hit weak points. Aikido is so dangerous that even in practice, they can't do their best moves, because those can accidentally lead to serious injury or death when misused.

Don't even bother wasting your time with competition if you want to talk about serious martial arts. The rules are made so that plain fists and grappling are heavily favored over the most effective strikes and crippling the opponent.

Kung Fu is bull anyway. More of a dance than a real martial art.
The Chinese themselves arent believing this shit. Instead, the Chinese Army practizes Sanda, a non-spiritual form of Kung-Fu, that concentrates on disarment techniques and deadly attacks on weakpoints.

If you want to find real Martial Art in China today, you must look for it in the PLA and not in sports events.

Let’s all just keep believing all Chinese are kung fu masters, all Japanese are samurai ninja, all Americans are former marines, and all Russians subsist entirely on three meals a day of vodka.

This one is the best.

There is so much BS in martial arts, it's ridiculous. Half of the people in it are idiotic fanboys who will argue uselessly about "which style is the best" their entire lives.

Well , the known martials artists like Bruce lee or Jet li , are strong , whatever poeple say , they practiced aloooot since they young time , and mostly lived for it . by these days you'll never find anyone who has been trained for fighting since he child age

The first Taekwondo trainers were originally karate trainers who had some basic knowledge of Takkyeon (a traditional martial arts similar to Capoera). Taekwondo is all about "shock at the right time" mostly with your two feet. So, Taekwondo in some cases are more dangerous than Karate. Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do is partly inspired from Taekwondo.

I don't know martial arts, but this article sounded like it was written by a moron.

Go watch Pride and UFC and watch pure adherents to a particular martial arts get torn to shreds.

Some masters of other arts(any martial art really) often take Kung Fu later on. It really is the father to more advanced/aggressive styles which are practiced today.

its kinda funny how the Japanese forget that half of Karate is based on White Crane Kung Fu and Jujutsu is based off of Shuai Jiao, which is Chinese Grappling. Also, Taekwando was forced onto the Koreans by the Japanese themselves

That last comment, about just believing in stereotypes is so brilliant, you just don't see gold like that.

Fucking incredible.

Interestingly, if you ask masters of traditional kung fu. The flips and stuff seen in the movies and/or competitions are nowadays considered good basics in preparation of traditional martial arts. Unfortunately, the younger generation like most of us don't have to use Kung Fu anymore in order to claim territories and settle scores among different groups. Basically, we have it easy, people back in the day had to learn kung fu in order to survive. Nowadays, we have wushu, which is basically extremely watered down kung fu. Wushu practitioners usually sacrifice power for form in their techniques and they also do not learn how to apply those techniques in combat, which is why real kung fu takes so long to learn in comparison to other martial arts. I do modern Shaolin (or Commi-Shaolin), Choy Lay Fut and Hung Gar and though the first is relatively watered down too, the monks are pretty much the real deal. They actually know how to apply their techniques and how to put power in their techniques. The monks of the past may be better at fighting since they had harder lives but hey, most of the blame lies on America's influence on China.

These people are retarded. They are mixing martial arts from the movies with real martial arts. However, its stupid to believe that martial arts from the movies are less damaging than in real life. The martial arts in the movies are based off of real concepts of fighting and are the same thing as the real thing. The only difference is that in the movies, its controlled, but Jacky Chens stuff can and will easily kick ur ass in real life.

It does not matter what kind of martial arts it is. Done right, its a weapon and it will kill you. People need to stop measuring what is dominent and what is weak because its a waste of time and it brings forth these flamers that obveiously dont know anything about the subject except to flame or brag.

"Fortunately, a host of martial arts experts spring forth from 2ch – who would have suspected?"

Line just made my day.

What a sore sight- that while channers were just taking a cheap shot on China through this issue, their comments were half-truths as it doesn't apply to the rest of the world that's not China.

*sigh* What chauvinists.

Cross training. It's the only way to be sure you covered all areas. Doesn't matter what you trained in. Doesn't matter nationality. As long as it's effective, and can get the job done while being brutal to your opponent.

styles train and condition your mind and body to be faster and stronger. however you cannot let a certain style dictate the way you fight. you must not limit yourself but let the flow of the fight dictate and influence your reactions. this is why bruce lee developed jeet kune do so he could mix, blend, and borrow from different styles to create something effective that had real world applications.

"Let’s all just keep believing all Chinese are kung fu masters, all Japanese are samurai ninja, all Americans are former marines, and all Russians subsist entirely on three meals a day of vodka."

Oh man, I loved this one.

The ignorance... just too much...

Martial Arts is obsolete anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE

/joke

I have taken Goju-Ryu and Shito-Ryu Karate as well as Ryu Kyu Kempo. Most of the Japanese Karate actually derives from China through Okinawa. Since Okinawan Islands are located in between Japan and China they were involved in many Imports. Then as Japanese Samurais started attacking the islands the people of Okinawa developed there own form of martial arts mixed with both japan and china.

That is why I like Kempo because Kempo is like a blend of the two. It has the blocks and strikes similar in most types of Karate and the ideology of focusing on joints and pressure points from Chinese Kung-fu. But like most Martial Arts, It also has its disadvantages especially going up with a grappler. I hope to take Brazilian Jujitsu to cover that weakness.

Anatsuken is chinese? Says who? It's not even a real martial art! How can they say that about Hokuto shinken?

Before all the hate comes, know that their government had cracked down most religious activities in the mainland because they opposed the government.

Many skilled monks and masters were beaten to death and their temples burned. Teachings were lost and what remains today is but a fragment of a greater era.

China had many different races of people in the past, each with their own culture and beliefs. Modern-day Chinese (the Han Chinese) oppressed these minorities and took their land until they slowly disappeared. Although the modern Chinese government protects these people now since they increase tourism income, many have lost their heritage. I believe there were 60+ minorities in China in the past.