A senior game creator has told industry figures that Japanese gamers can now be divided into a “game elite” and “light gamers.”
The types were identified by veteran game designer Masanobu Endo, known for such titles as Druaga (both game and anime) and director of “Game Studio” and the “Digital Games Research Association Japan,” in a presentation he made to audiences at the recent CEDEC 2010.
Game Elite Tendency Light Gamer Enjoys strategising themselves Strategy Likes reading hint books whilst playing Likes to clear games quickly Time Doesn’t like to play under time constraints Likes to play at their own pace Time Doesn’t want to spend too much time on each game Likes sophisticated controls Control Complex controls = boring Buys on release day Purchase Buys when free to do so Game magazines Info Friends Discount stores or Amazon Budget Buys normally if they can’t get it for free Excitedly waits through loading Loading Long load = off Likes games (also anime and comics) Interests Interested in games amongst other things Must play to be satisfied Play Satisfied just to watch others play Virtual Love Real Game Elite:
Has played eighties games
Remembers pleasures of pixel perfect control
Likes high risk/high return trade offs
If a PC gamer, likes FPS and RTS, also MMO
Prefers Xbox 360 for consoles
Prefers PSP for handhelds
Often single
Lacks endurance for Wii sports gamesLight Gamer:
May be female
Often young
Has little time for games
Email is more important to them than games
Won’t install
Or in summary, Japanese gamers can be divided in fat creepy Xbox-owning otaku busily humping their pillows, and everyone else.
Japanese gamers overall are said increasingly to fall into the light gamer category, possibly spelling doom for games not published on mobile phones, browsers or the Wii.











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I'm none of the above.
I'm both a Eroge Elite and Light Erogamer.
what gamer am I if I only play Street Fighter III Third Strike and Tetris for like everyday and rarely play another game?
Everyone hates loading times!
Hmmm so that would make the whole of japan elite gamers O.o. When the last dragonquest came out the whole of japan lay still for 1-2 days since almost everybody bought it and took a day off.
Game Elite:
THATS ME!
Has played eighties games
WE ALL LOVE EM!
Remembers pleasures of pixel perfect control
WHO DONT?
Likes high risk/high return trade offs
YES! GAME HARD! >:D
If a PC gamer, likes FPS and RTS, also MMO
SOUNDS LIKE tf2
Prefers Xbox 360 for consoles
LIES! PS3 FTW!
Prefers PSP for handhelds
DSI IS THE BEST
Often single
WAIT... GIRLS ARE REAL? :o
Lacks endurance for Wii sports games
NOPE! KICKING YOUR VIRTUAL ASS!
I'm a little of both.
So what makes a person an elite games is getting an Xbox or PSP.....what does that have anything to do with it.
I've got a PS3 and lots of time for gaming, I just don't game much since I'm more a like gamer.
I don't play FPS because....I just don't like it.
Gamers just game for fun.
If you game to try to prove your "Manhood" and stuff....then....at least "I" think you need to get a life.
I'm 60%Game Elite and 40% Light Gamer, -_- I prefer real girl
"Excitedly waits through loading" = game freeze
Holy crap those answers are so backwards it's not even funny:
Hardcore gamers will tend to read strategy guides a lot more than causal players who will just play the game.
Hardcore players do not clear games quickly and instead focus on getting 100% completion. However, elite player do play at a fast pace, this is necessary in any competitive game.
Elite gamers do not like complicated controls, they like efficient controls... aka bumper jumper setting in Halo 3.
They, technically, do not buy their games release day, but instead pre-order it months ahead.
Lol no hardcore gamers uses magazines, all the best and newest info comes from internet forums.
Hardcore gamers will usually pay full price for their games of choice, but will often pirate or buy other games at discount.
No one likes load times...
Yes, gamers like games HUGE revelation.
No most gamers want girlfriends in RL and not virtual. Some just settle for virtual.
At this point it comes as no surprise that Japanese developers have no clue as their target audience. Western developers have overshadowed them by far this console gen and I can only foresee this gap widening if these horrendous assumptions continue to prevail.
I'm a little bit of both
Why do people always need to classify stuff? So when you don't buy a game on the release date, you're a n00b all of the sudden?
Give me a break, the only thing that makes you elite is being good at the games you play.
"Likes sophisticated controls"
"Excitedly waits through loading"
hahaha no
but nice try justifying shitty controls and long ass loading times
I think it's more like Bayonetta controls vs. God of War controls, or capcom fighting game vs. super smash bros.
Wait so Elite Gamers play 360? Well, I guess since I have a PS3 Im just a nobody Light Gamer. Ill just go over here and play my Disgaea 3, just like any other Light Gamer...
In Japan, the 360 is aimed at a very different demographic. It has fewer FPSs and more VNs. It's basically the otaku console.
Elite, with the exception of loading screens, I fucking hate long loading screens, and the "buys on release day" which I can never do even if I want to, because every games comes a few days later where I live, compared to the rest of the places.
The love is Virtual but they prefer PSP for handhelds? O RLY?
Though, most of these are pretty stupid and subjective.
I don't really see them as differences worth mentioning.
Only Xbox shit gamers are considered elite? Bullshit...
Game Elite Tendency Light Gamer
Strategy- Likes reading hint books whilst playing
Likes to clear games quickly -Time
Likes to play at their own pace -Time
Control - Complex controls = boring
Buys on release day - Purchase
Info - Friends
Budget - Buys normally if they can’t get it for free
Excitedly waits through loading - Loading
Interests - Interested in games amongst other things
Must play to be satisfied - Play
Love - Real
Game Elite:
If a PC gamer, likes FPS and RTS,
Prefers PS2 for consoles
Prefers PSP for handhelds
Married
This is me.
not very good divisions.
I'm a mix between the two, so does that make me balanced?
Me:
(e) Enjoys strategising themselves
(l) Doesn’t like to play under time constraints
(e) Likes to play at their own pace
(?) Doesn't care about controls
(l) Buys when free to do so
(?) Internet
(l) Buys normally if they can’t get it for free
(?) I don't think anyone excitedly waits through loading
(e) Likes games (also anime and comics)
(e) Must play to be satisfied
(l) Real
That's 4 elite, 4 light and 3 other. I guess I'm a perfectly balanced gamer, then.
Elite, or better "normal".
That light thing wasn't there before the Wii, uhh -_-
>Tendency: Info
>Gmaer Elite: Games magazines
Who the fuck still buys games magazines in 2010? Goddammit Japan!
Also, there are no casuals and elites. There are just people who enjoy games and pretentious faggots.
OH NOES!!! I AM A LIGHT GAMER BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE XBOX...pretty stupid results showed in this presentation.
"Rascism"...; The videogamers way.
For fun, I took a tally according to the chart. If I'm right I should fall between Elite and Light. The description's not so accurate though. The only thing that applies to me is "Has played eighties games" and I do like MMOs but I'm not fanatical about them. I'll play if it looks fun though.
"maybe female.."
DOUSHIO~~~~~?
I think they got the loading thing the opposite way. People who don't really care about games don't really care about the loading time as much.
People who do care (and compare games) will be more disappointed.
In my experience there's about 4 gamer types.
The 'lightweight' (female casuals) ones, yes.
The 'elite' too, but also arcade/versus type gamers (fighting, fps, shmups).
Then there's also the solitaire/sore-loser gamers who hate being beaten simply because somebody is better at it, not because somebody has spent more time to get good equipment (MMORPGs pvp for example). They tend to avoid good versus games mostly because they have to invest time to get good at it, not being equally good against the opponents from the get-go as they progress.
It's like liberals vs. socialists I suppose, and most of all what the flying fuck is virtual love to begin with are they hinting every half-decent gamer is obsessed with Loveplus? My friend and me both have girlfriends, and he's like a near full-time gamer.
Also there's too fucking many of you socialist gamers here, man up and play some real games.
Agreed, there are many who pick up popular games like Left 4 Dead and have a habit of rage quitting whenever things don't go their way. Generally they expect to win no matter what they do or always getting the good equipment (or the tank). Sad to say that there are too many people that play like every FPS is counterstrike these days. There is something called teamwork, yknow...
Game Elite: "Prefers Xbox 360 for consoles" that made me lawl
Xbox 360 Elite 120gb.
"oh I'm a game elite so the xbox elite must be for me"
Light Gamers = those faggots that writes reviews for new video games that just came out. You know, ign, Gamespot etc...
I'm in-between. So what is that? Light Elite?
Sadly, am not the hardcore gamer i use to be, i remember spending hours playing a video game now adays I hardly even load the ones on my PC but when i do play a game am interested in i get way into it.
There you have it: Japan is populated with DS-loving casual tards, and there are so few 360s sold there 'cause those are for the elite, from which of course there are very few.
Everything makes sense now.
Oh, the "elite" and everyone else, huh? As if the world needed yet another attempt to divide people into classes. Disgusting.
Agreed..
we don't need any more classes and here it is. It is disgusting..
A bit sexist and stereotypical huh?
I'm in between both..Elite and Light. It depends on the game really. Though I never play games I don't want to.
This goddamn Azure Xuchilbara kid is the definition of fucking weeaboo.
Dude, come on.
Strategy: Well, I like to try my own attempts to problems, but when the Barrel of Doom rears its ugly head, I'll be looking at the hint books.
Time: Don't care how long it takes. I like to play at my own pace, but not too hard.
Control: Prefer a 6-button layout to a 4-button or 3-button layout, but please don't send in controls like Batman Forever on SNES. That's too much.
Purchase: I hate Gamestop. They force you to preorder if you want everything. I can't bring myself to play Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 knowing that I'm missing out on a character. Because of Gamestop being annoying and not understanding the value of trading cards, I have to preorder from them a lot, so I usually get it on release day. Otherwise, I simply buy it when I have the chance.
Info: Usually I look at gaming magazines for my info. I also follow the dev progress on the web for certain games, like Marvel VS Capcom 3.
Budget: Oh, this is a no-brainer, just get it when it's cheaper. Unless the price is already good. (Super Street Fighter IV at $40 even when the original was $60? Count me in!)
Loading: Even now I have problems getting through Sonic 06. Long load times really turn me off. Not that I won't play the game, but still...
Interests: I don't really consider myself gaming only. I have a wide range of tastes.
Play: I like the fun of playing games, but if I can't go farther, then I'll gladly watch others play.
Love: Still looking for the one for me. It's not a virtual bride, lemme tell ya.
OVERALL: I'm no professional gamer, but I know a thing or two on how to play.
Mysterious Voice: "Yeah, someone needs a major personality overhaul. And another thing, Artefact, you did it wrong. The hardcore prefer the PS3. It's the stupid kids who don't know any better that prefer the 360. Give me one reason why I shouldn't shoot you. Better yet, go shoot yourself."
Oh yeah? Let's see you play better!
Mysterious Voice: "It's too much fun watching you fail and curse your head off. No thanks."
Once, I was elite,.. but then games got boring and now I am a light gamer with lots of skillz. No one cares, but I'll post anyway.
Everyone here is a lame weeaboo and needs to play Borderlands.
Lack endurance my ass, whats DDR then huh? there are some hardcore DDR players that use the pad, now THAT takes stamina and endurance. not that WII fling a stick around crap
I don't consider myself to be a casual or elite gamer. I play at my own pace and like sophisticated controls, but hate long loading times and time constraints. Where do I fall in this chart?
I can barely be considered a gamer if that, I play DDR and Supreme Commander.
Lets see...
Elite: 3
Light: 5
Neither/both: 3
I guess I'm more of a light gamer. Pretty much what I expected.
I was alternating between them but I realized I was a Game Elite at "Virtual/Real".
this is me
Strategy-Enjoys strategising themselves
Time-Doesn’t like to play under time constraints/Likes to play at their own pace
Control-Complex controls = boring
Purchase-Buys when free to do so
Info-Game magazines/Friends
Budget-Discount stores or Amazon/Buys normally if they can’t get it for free
Loading-Excitedly waits through loading
Interests-Likes games (also anime)/Interested in games amongst other things
Play-Must play to be satisfied
Love-Real
and the "Likes high risk/high return trade offs"/"Prefers PSP for handhelds"/"Often single" are the only elite catagories below the chart that fit me the rest don't though (as i want a PS3! not a 360 ^.^)
Light Gamer = Fake and Gay
Game Elite:
Prefers Xbox 360
I find that a joke.
Likes to play at their own pace and Likes to clear games quickly. Wouldn't that be a contradiction?
Sophisticated controls doesn't have to be needlessly complicated either lulz.
Anyway I fill in the gaming elite niche but my love interest are real. Fake pixel GF's are just depressing.
"Light Gamer:
May be female"
Interesting.
Also:
"Has played eighties games
Remembers pleasures of pixel perfect control"
Well of course, they may be slightly before my time but you just can't miss out on them!
Well I'm definitely an "elite" although I'll never call myself that ever again
I'm an otaku and I love games, I'm not satisfied just watching
I can be creepy, although I'm not fat
I'm fairly unfit although that's about to change as I'm training to be a police officer, hopefully that won't affect my gaming too much
I would certainly consider myself an experienced gamer, started with Space invaders era in the 70's, and although a lot fits, some is opposite for me.
I have always hated pixel perfect, like finding the bloody snake scale in Gabriel Knight, I also tend to stay away from FPS. They were hardly the first games out on the PC, not many in the 80s for certain, so why do they say a PC gamer has to prioritise these. Why not CIV and 4X games which don't tend to appear on consoles at all.
Also never had an xbox or 360, not really into sports games...
Although i certainly love my psp
I am somewhere in between.
Does that mean I'm an outcast? :(
Another "There are two types of people: People who paint their walls with feces and those who don't" thing...great...
I consider games to be any/all---
1. Experiments by revolutionary programmers.
2. Later bought out by soul-less corporation CEOs that just want to suck your money and would kick you in an outhouse and shit on you otherwise.
3. A diversion.
4. A waste of time.
5. "Mom! Bathroom! BathROOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!"
6. Raising virtual babies while the rats and cockroaches eat the real one...
7. A form of art and expression.
8. With maturing computer technology a new means of communication and innovation.
9. Due to 7 and 8 A chance for "Indies" to make a name for themselves before #2 again buys it up and sucks it dry to make $.
10. The beginning of (at last) "Virtual Reality" that's not just stupid #2 exploitation hype...
Oh, yeah, and #11 as in the AGE... Really, I'm for "Virtual Chester the Molester" aka "Lolicon Raep" games as a "Release" and "Don't say you had no release" option, but they are a cheap shot for the "We pretend to enforce the law to keep our undeserved salaries" and "Self-proclaimed defenders of public morals"...
-----Join my group,
Join MANarchy!!!
These distinctions are retarded and as arbitrary as any other. Besides, how does the amount of time you have affect your level of fandom?
I'm really a lot of both of those, sometimes at the same time - most people will be because we're not two models of robots.
It doesn't really affect your level of fandom. Casual/Light players doesn't mean you lack fandom, it just means you play the game in a casual manner unlike Elite or Hardcore players.
Tho being an elite gamer just means you play the game like mad and you're possibly a perfectionist. Not to mention these Elite gamers are most probably the ones who write FAQs for us casual gamers. These however, do not point to their level of fandom to the game as well.
Well, you catch my point.
So if you have like 2-3 hours of free time per day, and spend 90% of your free time playing a video game, at the exclusion of other entertainment, you're a casual player?
There's some use in describing games in these two groups, but way WAY too much stock has been put in the value of these terms. There's a whole continuum of games that spans the range between casual and hardcore, and likewise, players who do too.
there's no such thing as complex control... however, simple minds that are unable to adapt do exist.
hotkeying "1" to "=" = alot?
self macroing = complicated?
Elite = No-lifer
But seriously, most of the people I've met who'd fall into the elite category with these criteria are.
I exist in a place between the Elite and Light gamers...
This is such a troll list XD
NONE of this made ANY sense whatsoever :|
The report is funny, like:
"Excitedly waits through loading"
U mad? Lol.
Exactly. ^_^
This whole article is a bunch of bullcrap.
OK, so, where is HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I play Cod 4 all the time, and I pretty much having tourettes while playing. Normal cuss words have lost their effect, so now I just string together racial slurs and explicit sexual acts.
I also scream things like "FUCKING CASUALS!!" and have broken about 8 headsets by throwing them.
So I guess I'm an Elite Gamer.
More like the raging nutjob gamer, you can't expect the same level of game as experienced on a PC clan/team server, on public services like xboxlive.
wtf is going on with japan lol. they are all turning into casual gamers. well maybe the super hardcore otaku gamers that buy everything. well for me in america i buy a variety of games of different levels of challenge.
Looks like the guy just randomly pulled a contradictory list out of his ass.
i'm a mix of both.. so elight gamer? -w-;
Likes reading hint books whilst playing
Doesn’t like to play under time constraints
Likes to play at their own pace
Complex controls = boring
Buys when free to do so
Buys normally if they can’t get it for free(pirate)
Excitedly waits through loading
Interested in games amongst other things
Must play to be satisfied
lolis
Likes FPS and MMO
Single
Young
What does that make me? >.>
Likes reading hint books whilst playing
Doesn’t like to play under time constraints
Likes to play at their own pace
Buys )or downloads) when free to do so
Info: Friends (and internet)
Can tolerate long loads.
Interested in games amongst other things (music, anime, movies, TV shows, electronics, old technology etc)
Must play to be satisfied ...and...
Satisfied just to watch others play (depends on the game, sometimes watching a LP is enough)
PC gamer (If I had a lot of money I'd have consoles too, maybe)
Likes FPS, Puzzle and Quest/Adventure games
Plays with high graphic settings even if that gives 30fps, but can play an old game with bad graphics if the game is good.
Controls - depends on the game and controls - if the controls just use a lot of keys then I like them, but if the controls are like on a console (up,up,down,down,enter just to perform some action) - no.
Lolicon?
Awesome!
normal sankaku reader?
Naw... I like to consider myself a normal gamer who just happens to like lolis.
:D
I have a bit from column A, a bit from column B. What does this make me?
then you are half girl and half boy !!!!
Otoko no "ko"
Almost all of these apply to me
Same, just wish I had a pillow to hump.
>May be female
I hate the view that most women are casual gamers. Maybe it's different in Japan, but in America, there's plenty of hardcore gamer girls.
ugh seriously, you took the words right out of my mouth
the "may be female" point was just completely unecessary.
http://kotaku.com/5152028/more-japanese-women-read-erotic-game-mag-than-xbox-360-mag
• Famitsu DS + Wii
Female: 41.2 percent
Male: 58.8 percent
• Famitsu PSP + PS3
Female: 38.2 percent
Male: 61.8 percent
• Famitsu 360
Female: 3.8 percent
Male: 96.2 percent
xbots are creepy otaku lol
I don't get the connection there. Elaborate.
If anything it just proves the stereotype that very few women are really hardcore into gaming since only the most hardcore would buy a system that is pretty much guaranteed to do poorly in Japan just so they can get the few exclusive gems that are released for it.
Yeah, in my experience, if you hear a female voice come over the speakers in your FPS game, you better start running cause if you don't they'll probably fuck you up pretty quick...
You mean stalk, right?
...sure
Are there plenty in Japan, though? I wouldn't think so, but I wouldn't know.
Elite gamers:
"Likes to clear games quickly"
"Likes to play at their own pace"
Wut?
Yeah, I noticed that, too. The two "time" ones are mutually incompatible.
I guess that means that elite gamers are very fast? "Their own pace" is to complete the game quickly.
I'm neither elite nor casual: Of the eleven catagories, I'm elite for #1, #3, #9 & #10. Casual for #2, #4, #5, #7 & #11. #6 & #8 don't really apply: I buy games by browsing the stores and reviews on the 'net and don't care about long loads. If a games loads slow, I go do something else until it's done.
TIME PARADOX SNAKE
CONTINUE GAME OVER
FISSION MAILED
EMIT/CONTINENT
Snake? Snake? What's happening out there? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!