63% “Want Working Wives” – 54% “Want to be Housewives”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Aug 29, 2010 08:38 JST
- Tags: Dating, Feminism, Marriage, Relationships, Statistics
63% of Japanese men want wives to work, but 54% of Japanese women want to become full-time housewives, say the results of a recent survey.
The survey, of 1,254 unmarried working men and women, asked questions regarding attitudes to women becoming housewives.
Asked if they wanted to become a housewife after marrying and having a child, 53.8% of women responded either that they wanted to if their husband’s income would comfortably support them, or that they wanted to even if their husband’s income was insufficient.
Major reasons for wanting to become a full-time housewife included “wanting to concentrate on housekeeping and childrearing” at 55.2%, “wanting to devote myself to my hobbies” at 25.5% and “because I don’t like working” at 15%, lending weight to the suspicion that laziness rather than a traditional mentality is a major factor.
Actual expectations were slightly removed from desires – when asked “Do you think you will be able to become a full-time housewife?” 68% thought it either impossible or unlikely, whilst 32% considered it possible or probable.
Meanwhile, men asked whether they wanted their wives to become full-time housewives after marriage and childbirth were mostly against the idea – 63% wanted a wife who would “absolutely” or “if at all possible” work, compared to 37% who wanted a stay-at-home housewife.
Fortunately for women looking for a free ride, men appeared none too resolute in the face of work-shy wives – 60.1% of men who wanted a working wife would either willingly or grudgingly agree to her becoming a housewife, 30.1% would try to persuade her not to, but only 9.7% would give up on marrying such a woman and find someone else.
Japanese politicians planning a “gender equal society” seem not to be aware that women apparently don’t want one, preferring instead one where their husbands do all the work and they stay at home watching TV all day.
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Well both of my parents work, and my dad works at night, so he sleeps at daytime mostly. I'm attending a university, and I have a sister, and I must say that both parents working can also be pretty good.
I think this leads to wife cheating more.
Now if only western women could have a similar mindset. I wouldn't mind at all if my wife becomes a housewife, as long as she's good at it (the house has to be in top form). Though I would suggest her to practice atleast some kind of work, 2-3 hours a day, cause you know, work is healthy, keeps your mind off stupid things.
Bad news; Japanese women are pretty westernized. They're as much of promiscuous unfaithful golddiggers as Americans, Canadians, Australians or any other first world country women.
If only I was born a woman! Oh the things I could get free with ye olde axe wound!
LOL housewise is the reason why MMORPGs are so popular, especially in China! Housewives playing games is a normality there.
yeh cougar's hunting ground...if you met girl in mmorpg it's 50/50 it might be a guy or housewife cougar after your virgin body...
Whatever. In Japan, chances are high that you'll never get to see much of your wife anyway, whether she's off to work or staying at home. That's because of their oppressive, anti-private life kind of society they seem to cherish so much.
The results are high divorce and adultery rates. Not to mention the booming exploitation, prostitution and social dreck businesses.
Having any sort of "normal" family life is virtually impossible in any of the japanese mega cities. You'd have to live in the more rural areas for that, but that's not where the moneys at.
Well I can tell you any of the women with a head on their shoulders not just the ones that act out of instinct to have baby after baby after baby before they are 16 will not ever go back to accepting money from a guy just to live in a house without work.
now who wants ugly lazy 3D ? :)
DURRR 3D PIG DISGUSTING HURRRR XDDDDD
...and so Japan has a 17% divorce rate? (63 - (100-54))
Actually the biggest problem with a stay at home wife isn't the missing paycheck, it's that she has more free time to SPEND money too. A houseworking wife needs an incredible amount of money discipline to keep from driving the whole operation bankrupt.
Woman place is in home.
It's good to resist the "Two income trap" where two people working doubles the workforce, letting the swine cut wages with or without outsourcing and illegal labor. Also, two incomes increases expenses due to more fast food, two vehicles, etc. Last but far from least, it creates a "Home" that's just an address.
What should be the norm again is for women to marry and be housewives and men to demand that their wages be enough (to begin with! I'm talking Janitor, any "Minimum" profession) to support a family.
Simply put, a "Society" is made up of those people in it. What makes a society worth supporting? Sustenance, culture, mutual protection and security. Two people working and working but still feeling like a giant monster animal is chasing them is NOT sufficient reward.
And it's a natural thing:
Men - Get satisfaction when they do something to fill that "Hunter/Gatherer" need. Make $, kill an animal/enemy, fix something, harvest or gather... Then they need to have a "Home base" they can go to relax after exerting themselves.
Women - Get satisfaction maintaining the "Home Base", cooking, cleaning, socializing with other satisfied women. Seeing the man coming home, especially dragging/carrying something (other than other woman! hehe!) is exciting.
Not all roles are set in stone, but the main ones are the best and actually the "Deviant" ones even take satisfaction from the "Baseline".
Yet, for decades, man's enemies have tried to destroy us. They put women in the workforce, often in a position where they could control men or at least had more ability to hurt him, then they did everything possible to reduce wages to cause stress. They've done more damage than any "War of the Worlds" type alien invasion. Yes, I say that if man had to hide in tunnels from bloodsucking monsters in tripods they'd be happier than living paycheck to paycheck to potential homelessness despite all their "Education, work, degrees" etc.
So, yes, Woman place in home!
I can't tell if you are being serious.
If you aren't, then lol.
If you are, you are retarded beyond belief.
He actually has a point, it's a natural thing. All the species of mother nature have this similar incline. Except we humans are a bit more complex, so our relationships deviate a lot.
Duplicate comment detected. Yeah right.
Anyway, TL/DR: Women place was NEVER at home and you're stupid as fuck.
Ah, Anon troll now WAIT for attention to pass before placing his "Fashionable PC" snipe of my great wisdom and truth...
Oh god you are retarded.
Funniest of all, all this gibberish you're spewing has nothing to do with how real work works and how it worked in past.
If you use hunter/gatherer trope seriously, I have take for you - get outside, grab stick, take it into pointy stick with piece of rock AND DON'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU HUNTED A WILD BOAR FOR YOUR FAMILY TO FEED.
Do you get my point? World doesn't work around hunter gatherer and "home base" tropes for at lease several dozens millenia.
When you have to resort to using prehistoric stereotype to boost your manly image... it's just extremely lame.
Anyway, do you know what is only* modern profession, that in fact survived for thousands of years unchanged?
It's farming.
30 years ago, it was still mostly done with scythes around here, then came Reaper-binders, and only recently we got combines. So, seeing as it was, I can actually tell you how the farming worked:
YOU HAD TWO HANDS, YOU WORKED. PERIOD.
There was no ridiculous nonsense about women keeping to the house and men working in fields. Everyone worked on fields, in garden and with the livestock. The only differentator was physical strength - women would weed (don't think it easier than plowing...) garden and men wold do the plowing, man would cut the grain and women would collect it, again - don't make the fallacy in assuming that collecting grain was actually easier, it was more of a strength vs. stamina. Livestock was 50/50% with exception of slaughtering (takes some muscle to cut down 400kg boar:D).
Most importantly, it wasn't just how one or two farmsteads worked - it was like that everywhere.
That's how it humanity worked years ago and, as safe bet - centuries and millenias ago too (essentially as long as people could remember).
It really makes you think that that this whole hunter/homecarer stereotype is pure bullshit made in victorian London or maybe even in XX century.
Women place was NEVER just in home.
Finally someone with a healthy attitude toward gender relations. I'm seriously sick from listening all this politically correct bullsh*t.
Thank you!
IMO, "Political Correctness" is creating far MORE racial/religious hatred than ever before. A generation had grown up with a media and culture that clearly stated that racism was a thing of the past that needed to be overcome.
For ONE lifetime in man's history, it was unfashionable to hate Jews, for example. Guilt after WW2.
But then we had a PC media and work life that forced the grinding off of ANY conceivable "Rough Edge" to life. We lost cool restaurant chains like "Sambos", "African Explorer" movies, etc. And lots of white men who were raised to be "Sensitive New Age Guys" felt with all the crap they took from now "Empowered" non-whites and women despite "Progressive attitudes" that they were just being made into the "New N-Word"...
I sense there's going to be a rather horrible backlash against PC leading to lots of open racism. And I think it was planned.
As if going to work can't make a wife cheat.
Working a lot she'll be away from her working husband a lot -> she'll get lonely and will look for interaction at her workplace.
I think women want to have freedom of choice and when they have it they just want to do what they want.
As Sheryl Nome said why do people struggle to sing and fly "It's cause they can't stand not to be able to"
It's not about everyone doing it It's about having the freedom to choose to do it or not in the first place. From then on everyone can choose for themselves what they want to do.
The last thing you want is a bored housewife, because she'll start thinking about all these strage ideas.
Nearly half of the ones that wanted to be housewives did not want to work... lazy-ass women...
Proves that Japanese women are the biggest freeloaders and leeches out there...lol...
I want both?
then I guess I need two women...
I hate how heterosexist these surveys always are: they never take into consideration gay or lesbian couples.
Now i see why the guys go for nene, because she works.
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yes its the sad truth - I asian so I know what happens, women want nothing more than to be housewives which has become a synonym for lifelong couch potatoes, especially in my family where they get servants to do everything for them - they literally sit and to whatever they want all day while the men go and earn money- and with all this free time they do nothing but gossip - and watch shows like gossip girl and god .. it sickens me just talking about it
The hell with selfish and lazy feminists. You want equality? Then work the same as males. You don't want to work and still demand benefits? Then you don't want equality but supremacy.
waaa..... housewife huh? I guess girl otaku do exist
I want to be at home doing the cooking and cleaning and my japanese waifu can go to work! Then, when she comes home after a hard day I will start complaining about how little attention i get from her. Lets see how that feels.
Well following Japanese culture, sure they can! They just need to give up being the boss of the money at home.
The wifes is always the boss of the money everywhere in the world.
im studying from 13:00 to 20:00 , and in morning i sleep so i only have from 21:00 to 04:00 to watch stuuf like sankaku complex , manga or anime , so what a just say are things that i havent done well im just in my 2 last semester and i finishing get a job becuase my parents dont like me in house , speacially my mother
I just want someone to share my solitude but that's not gonna happening.
Women who want to get back to the kitchen? What a backwards country japan is :P
No worries, these non-working parents can still earn profits at home by promoting health products through the internet.... oh wait, those are just scams.
See they cry foul and demand equality but once they get it, they don't want to put an equal amount of work to maintain such equality.
Such a fuckin childish scenario.
Women don't want equality, they want supremacy.
They want all the assets and none of the drawbacks.
I don't see what is so wrong with being a housewife as long as she works around the house and cares for the children and the man can provide for the family comfortably. It worked for millions of families in the past.
I support women wanting to become housewives so long as they're supportive and at least attempt to earn their keep by taking care of the husband in a number of ways.
i dont like this surveys.....just 1000 subject???, this reesults are as good as crap
you know , i thinnk japanese researchers that get this information are lazy bastards because they always only ask 1000 with a contry with more than 100k more times persons in their country 1000 is not even the population of the most little prefecture of japan
You know, I think most commentators here on sancon are lazy retards considering they keep demonstrating their complete and utter ignorance of statistics over and over again. If you do it properly, 1000 persons are more than enough.
oh hey yeah...
You know, we just had this discussion: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/08/28/35-of-japanese-women-sex-is-nothing-but-a-hassle/#comment-595867
“wanting to devote myself to my hobbies” at 25.5%
having affairs while the husband is away at work?
also is it just a chinese thing where we have our parents take care of our kids so both parents can work?
Sounds better than the mexican thing where the grandparents watch the first child till they're about six. Just old enough to feed and not kill themselves.
Any child after the first is then watched by their elder siblings or cousins (if they live close by).
That's how it was for me at least...
And in Poland and in whole EE block.
You could easily say, that it's civilized world thing. Just not in Japan:P
Grandparents do that in Germany, too.
I like the opening pic. :)
Yeah, me too. Looks just like Biribiri. ^_^
japanese housewives are only valuable if they give you the "would you prefer dinner, a bath, or me! <3" option after returning from a tiring day at the office...
That, and they have to welcome you with hadaka apron.
Cue Beatles' "It's Been A Hard Days Night" song...
japan needs to start having more kids. at this rate what's gonna happen to japanese video games if there's nobody to make them? guess it's up to this black man to help em out lol.
Forget Japan. In 50 years the art of anime/manga would have passed over to Korea, as they already work in most Japanese anime studios, drawing monotonous scenes. Or maybe they won't continue the moe boom and make a whole new art form themselves. Anything is better than today's corrupt and money grubbing Japanese anime/manga.
You know foreigners not welcome.
I hope they are going to change their mind before it's too late. Going to Japan to "work" as inseminator would be a dream come true. ^_^
Haha, fo shizzle. In order to do that would have to get rid of a lot of stereotypes they have toward us. I have a Japanese girlfriend, but man, it took at least a year to convince her to go out with me. Though her parents are still wary of me, they've been gradually warming up to me. I had to be patient and dispel a lot of the preconceptions they had. For example, lazy, lacking goals, gangster, etc. It was worth the trouble though as it's a girl I click with very well.
damn well i'm not a gangster(far from it),I'm 19,and I'm in college right now. i know no asian people personally but it would be nice to have one as a girlfriend. they probably could teach me a thing or two lol. for now though i think the 2d girls will fulfill that purpose lol. imagine if you were a black super otaku lol. would your girlfriend still accept you?
Hmm if I was a black super otaku, she'd probably be long gone heh. Though she's well aware I'm quite fond of anime, manga, video games, and what not, she's pretty much accepted that. Also being an overall decent guy helps too. To be honest though, I think she's an closet otaku. She has a key to my apartment,and sometimes she'd drop by, but I'm not around. During those days, I've found my anime and manga in disarray. Also certain she wasn't looking for a porno stash hehe.
Dunno, but being black would be relevant. It seems Japanese women hate otaku more than they do anything else. In which case, most, if not all of the Super Otaku are pretty much fucked... Unless they have lots of money. Only then are they handsome, cultured and interesting anime/manga/game/whatever connoiseurs.
Let them continue this way. If they have no kids, in some years they'll be forced to accept foreigners.
If this goes on there wont' be any cute japanese girls left in some years for us foreigners to do, only old hags...
That's what femnazis are aiming for, they're all old hags past their time. They think that once there's no competition men will only be able to fuck THEM...
HOWEVER!!!
Due to the 2D kicking in, men will instead choose no women at all!
And the femnazis plan will fail!!!
This is why their targeting imaginary children,... THEIR TRUE OBJECTIVEEE!!!!!!!!!
I won't do femnazis even if they are the only women left on the planet.
Wait...
Maybe for breeding purposes, to produce new lolis. The men would have to make sure to keep the femnazis locked away safely of course and raise the lolis themselves without feminist crap as it should be. ^_^
I don´t want this.
@bigall
They would probably rather die than accept foreigners. China will probably take over the manga industry when they have all died out.
Korea is a better candidate, as many Koreans work in Japanese anime studios, replacing non-existent Japanese artists. Also, they already have a booming industry producing quality works, rather than China, whose industry is developing and hampered by lack of experience.
What do you think they are developing robots for? Because they don't like foreigners!
Of course robots are being developed there to replace their already shrinking labor force. In some decades there will be more robots than humans in that island. And of course, no foreigners, boyeah!
Google + Japan = Skynet = Rise of the Machines + Judgement Day
Lolibots, yay! ^_^
And the other 35% must want to not be a wife at all since they think sex is a hassle...
all i see is 54% are lazy bitches
here we go again, Japanese women seeking the easy way out. Surely the men want their wife to work so that the women won't hit and run with the men's money.
Things have become too easy for a "housewife" situation to be viable. The result of letting your wife stay home all day under that pretense is more than likely
-boredom
-feeling "unappreciated"
-wanting your every free moment when at home from work
-and ultimately cheating as a result of all three.
tldr; she needs to get (at least) some volunteer position.
Who wouldn't want someone else to do the work for the money so you can do basically whatever you want at home?
Anyone seriously think that if you asked the men if they would rather work or spend their time at home watching TV, playing computer games, reading books, socializing with their friends, or god forbid got to spend some time with their children while someone else brought in the money, that less than half of the men would say no?
I'd gladly work half a day if it keeps me afloat. Would be a nice combination of money and free time.
Less work for more money, it's human nature.
I'd love to be a house-husband. Even if I spent all day cooking and doing housework, it would be better than all day in an office.
- No office politics and incompetent managers to deal with.
- You're doing something for the people you love, as opposed to doing something for a faceless corporation.
- Cooking can be creative, how many of us get to make something different every day at work?
63% want to wear the pants in the house.
over 50% thats tough.
I've seen quite a lot but some of them have to bear the tittle "the man with no balls". Remove your pride 1st before become househusband.
You don't have to work, you get paid and you get to do everything you want all day? Heck yeah!
It's not a matter of being a man or a woman, everyone would want to live like that.
I want to become a Househusband! xD
Good, we need to get women back to the kitchens.
Men who want their wives to work are sissies and/or poor people who deserve the harpies they no doubt married.
I'm more surprised that there wasn't a, whatever makes my wife happy option.
@ Anon 23:12
You forgot that the working wives also talk to the housewives, so in the end the working wives actually have a larger, more complex social network to call upon.
Dudes, just because we want them to work doesn't mean we want them out of the kitchens. I sort of want both of us in there, having sex, while the pot roast cools.
@ Anon 14:42
- Wife becomes "less-employable" - True
- Wife gives "her all" for the family - It works both ways. Husband gives his all working at a mundane job to support his family.
- Wife becomes bored - My observation is the stay-at-home-moms socialized with every other mother, while the working-moms socialized with a much smaller circle of female co-workers.
@ Anon 11:45:
Problems with being a full-time housewife:
- Wife becomes "less-employable"; if the husband is killed or dies (ex., traffic accident) she and the kids will be in poverty (the insurance money, if any, after taxes, doesn't go very far).
- Wife gives "her all" for the family, but doesn't feel sufficiently appreciated, which _tends_ to cause her to seek an extra-marital sex partner.
- Wife becomes boring because she has much, much fewer mentally-stimulating interactions than she would if she held an outside-the-house job.
- Wife becomes bored because she has much, much fewer mentally-stimulating interactions than she would if she held an outside-the-house job. This _tends_ to lead to her leaving her husband and family to "search for herself".
Even if the husband is rich enough to support his wife and kids in good style, she still should have some sort of "outside" job or volunteer cause.
what's wrong with wanting to be a housewife? if they get a job it implies they won't be in a kitchen for more than 18 hours.
"Japanese politicians planning a “gender equal society”..."
Women don't want equality. They want supremacy.
High five!
@HKE
How cute, one of the banned trollastic five has another forged account. Hello, Mikage. Take care that the door doesn't hit your ass when you leave.
@Schrobby
Sorry i dont understand you can you please tell me what that phrase means , im not a english native speaker and i just know some stuff of that 4chan shit so must of the netchat that i see on the net , speacially here i can understand it but , what you say know , could you please tell me?
Things like this remind me why I dumped my last girlfriend.
One day I came home and found herself stuffing her face with chocolate, watching a movie and my laptop on her... lap. I asked "What are you doing? Shouldn't you be working?" She lifted her gaze and in a nonchalant voice replied: "I quit. We're getting married in a month, aren't we?"
Since I was pissed at her increasing laziness for everything during those last months, I just told her "The wedding's canceled. Go back to your parents."
And then the shit hit the fan.
Holy fuck! Schrobby finds their keikaku now i hope that he disappear after that
But i dont think that they are feminazis they just are Tsundere Masters that want that their slaves works hard for her everyday
a woman devoted to take care her family is a lazy bitches?
@17:51
Reducing population does not reduce pollution. Reducing pollution is what reduces pollution. And reducing pollution begins by putting a leash on the corporate suits and not letting them dump all the shit they want in our air, water and soil.
What? I was president of my high school tautology club. http://www.xkcd.com/703/
yea, apparently they don't do good work either judging from the pollution they've created. these "kids" with meaningless lives and makes everyone else's much more miserable.
I admire the japanese household with no kids. at least they understand how polluted the world is.
Most japanese families don't have children, due to the falling birth rate. This isn't like America, where housewives actually do work.
@18:33
Some people ARE pollution. They contribute nothing to society, steal, rob, and leech off others. And these spoiled brats that these shit parents who shouldn't even have kids when they're in the pre-teens collecting food stamps and pumping out babies.
Is that why femdom videos are so popular?
i love seeing retards who never done housework talking shit . Trying doing proper housework for few days , and see for yourself . ITs a more then full time job .
i love seeing retards who don't have a real job talk about housework being hard, 'cause yeah, housework takes up 100+ hours a week
And with improved dishwasher, swifters and dyson sweepers etc, it'll be easier.
Now if we get AI robots then the stay-at-home person need an engineering degree or at least a maintenance certificate.
WE NEED "PERSECOMS"
Ofc 30min/day doesn't include cooking which I quite enjoy.
Lol, been doing my housework for years, it's a 30min/day thing. Even without any electrical appliances.
Children can be quite annoying to live with but most japanese only get 1 anyways ( and that one gets taken to day-care the minute she/he is old enough ).
@ Anon 14:05 and Anon 14:07:
WE NEED PURSE-O-COMS.
You mean: "WE NEED "PERSOCOMS" ".
Most of the time it's not. It's not really like most people that live single go home and do 8 hours of work, after their real work. I don't at least, and live by myself and I do my housework myself, and it really don't take that much time.
Good thing girls in Hokkaido are not like that XD
Huh. Marriage requires compromise- who knew?
that's why bitchslap and backhand is invented.
@Taiga
Well said..!
*salutes*
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Thank you for the delishush waki OP picture, Artefact...