Black Lagoon mangaka Rei Hiroe has told manga pirates in no uncertain terms that they are thieving swine and that “I hope these guys pirating manga get pancreatic cancer soon.”
He made the comments on Twitter, the Internet’s great boon to journalists looking for incendiary soundbites:
I don’t want to link there so I won’t, but what kind of upbringing did these bums asking for every volume of a manga in a zip file get? That is… Well… I hope these guys get cancer of the pancreas or something soon.
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I hope the imbeciles worshipping the imbecile who uploaded that are diagnosed with a never before seen and never to be seen again illness and die in the most ridiculous fashion, so as to be remembered only in medical annals by doctors laughing about how they died.
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Hopefully all those idiots praising him all the time for upping these get busted by the police – I’d love to see the net gloating over their miserable fate.
The cherished delusion of manga and anime pirates that mangaka are indifferent to their actions, or in more deluded cases even that they are grateful for the “publicity,” appears to be fast dissolving under a hail of outraged invective from mangaka of all kinds – most creators would clearly rather be rid of fans too cheap to support their works.
Black Lagoon has been internationally available in English for some time for those wondering, although his comments were not addressed specifically at either Japanese or international fans – doubtless he feels all pirates everywhere deserve a lingering death as cancer wracks their diseased bodies.
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He shouldnt worry. Black lagoon so I doubt many people are pirating much less even reading it. First he should try putting out some good work!
I would never have known about the great anime and manga I watch if it wern't for pirating.
If anything I support or else I wouldn't know anything.
Why don't mangaka just put their manga online for free and then take site donations and stuff.
Fans will donate to keep it free I hope they know.
I would.
Why, instead of doing that for free, don't they just _sell_ digital copies online? They would kill costs and most of the people would be happier to read digital copies anyway, because paper mangas are impractical, they're printed on crappy paper, they take space, they're just a PITA.
you for get this great argument,
people will watch the worst crap as long as its free.
why not a low res version that is readable and free with ads. and than sell us a higher res version, like 600dpi
I love him to make this kind of comment to cancer patients in a hospital. Someone needs to give him AIDS.
I wonder if his shitty manga and the anime derivative from it would be known outside Japan if it wasn't because fans divulgation. Fuck him!
Hey, everyone loves to vent. I think it's funny to see people in the industry just blow up at the people who piss them off rather than making carefully worded (and terribly boring) statements of "disapproval". Maybe next we can have a seiyuu for one of the K-ON! girls tell some creepy otaku stalkers to fuck off and mind their own business?
Oh good, I think I am starting to enjoy this stuff to. What have you done to me?!
*Going to watch the bale outburst on youtube again*
LOLWUT.
CANCER PARTY!! :D
Stop whining.
That's how it works nowadays.
If it exists, we can pirate it and we will.
Oooh, pancreatic. That is truly the king of cancers.
I dunno, if I were him, I'd say brain, or if was really feeling nasty, anal.
Copyright holders sense of entitlement is amazing "waaah my government granted monopoly means nothing so I'll just lash out at others instead of realising how dumb selling copies was in the first place"
And this one apparently stopping people from making copies of the manga is more important than actual human lives. Talk about fucked up priorities.
Then again the entitlement thing goes both ways a good deal of the time so whatever.
i think that does a bit too far, not his comments but the fact that someone wrote about asking to for the zip files to him. that is like rubbing salt to an open wound. still saying that they should get cancer, is a bit extreme, i can feel hatred behind those words.
Mangakas should have a paypal account or maybe a bank account where fans from all over the world can make a "donation" so s/he can't rant that much with piracy.
And because of the unavailability of many of the mangas here in my country, I'd gladly donate (even monthly) to my favorite mangakas.
He's trying to earn a living and the pirates are sabotaging his efforts. He has every right to be angry but wishing someone would get cancer is pretty heavy.
Also, how's this for dieing in a most ridiculous fashion: Tripping over a Pekingese and banging you head on a coffee table?
So if I don't pirate how am I going to read manga that will never ever make it to American shores? Self imposed censorship is a big issue.
If I don't find it in the US, I'll put on my eye patch and pirate hat and do what pirates do best.
It seems like these statements are inversely proportional to the talent of the mangaka who makes them. In fact I expect to never see anything even remotely similar to these words from someone like Oda sensei!
Maybe he's taking it a little too hard...
Oh well I understand he needs the money, if only the government started realizing manga is important...
I don't know the point of this, foreign publisher either delay or screw the manga , and people trully likes manga have to be blamed?
* People who download his work get cancer and die.
* Less people hear/nobody knows about his work outside of Japan.
* ????
* PROFI- Wait, maybe not...
who wants to ride on my pirate ship?
Copyright as property right doesn't make a sense anyway. It should be obvious that it is not enforceable unless we will live under totalitarian regime and even then there would be black markets. Autors should just change their business model. With internet this should be easy. Publish manga online without midleman for free to anyone (it would be pirated anyway) and ask for donations and sell manga related merchandise + advertisements etc. You will get free translations of your work by volunteers as a bonus - that will allow expanding your potential market coverage. Not to mention fame for trying something new and for being realistic about it. Treating people like thieves and wishing them bad works against you. Besides as an artist you want your work to be enjoyed by as many people as possible right?
Tell publishers to stop ripping us off with crazy prices and give us faster releases. Nobody wants to wait 3 months to find out what happens in the next chapter.
We might get cancer but you still broke.
The irony of an author whose main work glorifies the life of the modern south asian pirate complaing abouth pirates on the internet is quite funny.
What a loser, instead of seeing the thousands of people downloading his stuff as potential customers, he refuses to adapt and find a way to get to their money, instead he decides to rage at them and wish they die.
Judging by how abused the manga authors seems to be by the publishers and distributors, the internet and digital distribution has the potential to be the best thing to ever happen to mangakas, unfortunately by the sound of it to many of them seem to be actually enjoying getting sodomized.
This is becoming a increasing thing, the hurt locker director if I recall correctly said he wanted pirates' kids and relatives to die.
Yep. This mangaka has entered the same camp as her (if that's true) and Sean Penn. Disgusting.
WTF is Black Lagoon?
One of the top rated animes here in Japan and America.
this kinda pertains to the topic, just a random question to throw out for discussion...
In this time and age do you think certain types of information should be free?
Ha ha, nice. Can't say I disagree with him.
gaijin = theft
yes,we japanese hate gaijin．．
thx
If you want to go back to the closed feudal Japan, it's ok. But do it right: Japan shouldn't import nothing from outside nor import nothing too!
...export nothing too.
Piss off.
And who needs you, gooks?
:-P
well i can understand this guys anger but cancer is a little harsh just wish them dead or something
I AM cancer. (June)
What do I do nao?
Are the publishers just 'encouraging' all their mangaka to speak out?
Lulz, like that's gonna stop us.
Obviously Rei Hiroe do not know of the cancer that is killing /b
Dear Mangaka/publisher alliance,
If you conveniently look at your desktop icons, you will see an internet icon, upload your translated manga there, and charge a small fee then piracy will not be an issue. BUT SCREW YOU IM DOWNLOADING BIATCH....
This is why I'd rather make a story for fun and have it become popular on its own rather than do it as a job. I don't want this kind of bitterness. The kind that ignores the value of someone seeing your work and liking it for what it is rather than putting a price on it.
Can't blame anyone for wanting money, though.
I'd have to agree
NewsFlash:
Satoshi Kon, director of Tokyo Godfathers, Paprika and Paranoia Agent passed away on August 24 of.....pancreatic cancer. I wonder if he was downloading Black Lagoon at the time.
But seriously, Satoshi Kon ......Rest In Peace.
As for Rei Hiroe, we await your response.
I just came here to bring it up. I hope the Black Lagoon mangaka feels like a giant asshole right now.
Oddly enough, Satoshi Kon just died of Pancreatic Cancer.
Coincidence?
Well congratulations Rei Hiroe, not have I not read your fanservice filled gun okatu series, I think you are an asshole. Please die in a fire, for the greater good.
if he gets cancer I will laught.
Wishing a painful death upon others?
Yeah, that's reeeal decent. You are a decent person Rei. /sarcasm
I guess the sentence I' m looking for is... lol u mad?
but most mangka make the money from the tankbon volumes dont they? A lot of people still buy those I bought most of FMA when I get some more money will get the last part of it. But open manga looks like it will be the key tbh.
Your fans love you too
I Approved Pirates.
arr!
hahaha im good then that's the only manga i don't read btw how the hell were you suppose to get known if not thanks to the pirates? when your series got picked by luck on an anime station? after 20 years of having being made?
I had just bought volumes 5-9 also that's mean telling me to get cancer.
As a man whose father is a pancreatic cancer survivor, I don't find this funny at all. In fact, I'd like Hiroe-san to kindly fuck off.
He sure talks big for a dude who can barely draw more than ten pages for a monthly issue. Run out of ideas, lately?
I've never downloaded manga before, but after reading this I am honestly considering downloading, printing and selling them to anyone I can find to buy them.
Fuck him.
Fuck that shit.
By the time they start arresting scanslators, I'd be reading real books so I don't really give a shit.
Rei Hiroe killed Satoshi Kon
nice goin' dude.
I understand that he wants to protect what is his and all, but damn, poor choice of words much considering the passing of Satoshi Kon of pancreatic cancer.
Rei Hiroe, u mad?
I'd love to support my favorite artists by purchasing their material, but the last time I did I wound up with three volumes of "Battle Vixens" and a heavily censored version of Tenjou Tenge. By purchasing these abominations, I'm unfortunately also supporting an extremely shoddy localization process that disrespects the author's original work - not to mention that the A5 format is too small to really enjoy the artwork.
Personally, I'd love to see distributors and scanslation groups find a middle ground and launch an "official" site similar to Crunchyroll that would offer manga that could be read online for a subscription fee, as long as it was reasonably priced and kept up-to-date.
He's right you know.. I pirated one chapter of Black Lagoon to see what the fuss was about. I thought it was crap. I guess I cost him a sale, though in all likelihood I would have probably just borrowed it from a friend (but I think reading someone else's copy is also considered "theft" these days so I doubt it would matter to him).
I doubt that I'll catch pancreatic cancer from his wish, though I do recommend that he chills the fuck out before HE gets cancer from all the stress in his life.
I mean, I'm doing work I enjoy doing, knowing full-well that I'm getting ripped off by everyone: the people who pay me to do the work, the government who would rather support them than me, and the people who use my work. But I can take heart in the knowledge that I'm not a total crybaby primadonna about it. I've had to change careers before.. grow a pair and get over yourself, selfish-dude-who-created-Black-Lagoon.
Why, thanks for the words.
Now, excuse me while I finish downloading your mangas just out of spite :3
Well nice to know he cares more about how people like his work than how much money he gets from it.
/sarcasm
Umadbro?
I'm beginning to think Artefact want everyone in the USA to die of cancer! He (or she) always picks stories that make it look like ALL Americans are pirates and that's the reason manga and anime studios are losing money. Excuse me for not wanting to wait 3 years for a anime or manga to be licensed in America while everyone else is enjoying it online. If it is available, pirated or not, I wanna read it. And, would be willing to pay if someone could find a way to make it happen. But, all of this BLAMING the FANS SHIT IS GETTING ON MY LAST NERVE!!! I am going to go drink a bucket of AIDS now!! CHEERS, Artefact!!!
I know Mr Hiroe is angry at manga pirates and he and every mangaka have every right to be, but wishing for those people to have cancer?
He could get boycotted or ostracized for such a thing.
Chill out, man.
He should instead direct his anger at the LDP, the Governors of Tokyo and Osaka, Agnes Chan, etc.!
Buying is a vote for the particular gene and results in more of it being produced so I want to pay.
Unfortunately paper is not my thing and in NZ these things are probably not available.
I wish there was a crunchy roll for manga
One - he's a dick for wishing anyone to die because of pancreatic cancer. A relative, far relative, but still, died because of it and before that he suffered greatly.
Second - Black Lagoon is avaliable where I live (Poland) legally. I browsed through one tome and I found it uninteresting. So - am I a thief by authors means? What's the difference if I'd download or view online the same ammount of his manga and did the same - lost all of my interest in it?
Authors feel great pressure, because publishers will squeeze them for the ammount of piracy wich is, to a great extent, caused by the publishing houses. And authors don't want to start an argument with the big guy. Authors don't know how to promote themselves so they give almost all of their property rights to publishers.
Thus, I feel like the voices of criticism from the authors are desperate cries faced at the only direction they can do it safely. The readers wich want to read more and legally, but because of intermediaries they simply can't.
From what I know about him, he's about as close to a gun nut as you can possibly be in Japan. I'm really not surprised that he's such a violent person (at least in his talk).
But his overall argument is still valid. Manga pirates don't really need to get cancer, since they already are a cancer on the industry to begin with.
a cancer which ironicly spawned the industry in the united states
Manga pirates or manga about pirates?
Both.
Are You serious with this bullshit Like for real look we got the whole Morally wrong thing they hate us bout 50 posts ago with this bullshit the same thing goes for the american (which is what they really mean when they say western) v.s. Jrpg debate we get it japanese have some some kinda lolicon complex and americans have this insane need to act out their homoerotic fantasies in their rpgs we get it its been half a year now godawn nothing's changed you're looking for immortality for all in a dying world here how bout an update on the new anime season some more Cathrine or persona five stuff this feud bullshit is over bearing now Dawn I know you want hit sankaku but....feed the lemmings something else would ya
I've read so many mangaka issues lately.
I'm starting to see they are all hurting....
This really has to stop.
These people love manga....but at the same time they are killing it.
Fucking morons.
The beloved creators of the manga so love so much are gonna end up in the streets because of you people.
I also wish for you all to get cancer.
And die.
Oh Rei Hiroe I bought all volumes of Black Lagoon that came out in English. I support your manga :D
Also,fuck everyone that disagrees with this mangaka.
WAAAAAAAAAA is all I read when reading this article. I don't even read the manga cause when you look at it, Black Lagoon is sub-par story that gets copies B-grade action movies from the 80s and 90s. I do own the first and second seasons on original DVDs since the anime studio did a good job on what is essentially a below average anime.
BL is available in my country and people are buying it...
BL is available in my country and I am pirating it...
^_°
I was thinking "Boys Love" for a second =P
"manga in a zip file"
definitely not us.
Truth there...I generally get them as .rar files >.>;
well that sucks.
piracy will never go. people love free things nowadays. the best bet is to probably please the fans as much as possible to drive more sales and such.
I just hope he won't put fanservice into the manga.
There was more than enough of sexual themes with Greenback Jane character.
:-/
Well, by displaying his immature attitude he not only encourages people to pirate his stuff more but also shows his fans what kind of an asshole he is.
Because someone who says something like that IS an asshole...
Therefore....Pirate on !
There is some truth, one does mind far less of stealing from assholes.
People who do this can never afford the manga or are cheap as hell so they would never buy it. They're not lost sales they need to stop fucking complaining.
i agree with this statement.
if manga werent available online and able to pirate, chances are us cheapskates would just find something else to kill the time, since in most occassions, manga and anime is just something to kill time.
so yeah, totally. its not lost sales. it wouldnt have been bought in the first place.
Thats it, getting angry over piracy = fine, I guess I can understand. Wishing cancer on copyright infringers = NOT COOL.
I officially fucking hate this guy. Id wish him dead but then Id be hypocritical (cant have that now, can I?)
well if it werent for scanlators i wouldnt even have bought one manga (i have 500-600 comics/manga atm).
i dont buy things based on the cover.
Two things are needed for me to not rely on scanlators anymore.. First easy access to manga and second enough free pages to wake my interest in a series.
dude, don't buy...pirate...use your money for stuff you can't steal...or as we like to call it..liberate...
^_^
The funny part is...the stuff that dude makes is mostly crap.
Who cares what one of those japs says anyway.
Draw more stuff you little yellow monkeys, and stfu.
With your economy in the crapper China is your boss now anyway...
:-)
Because I read and watched most of Black Lagoon for free I now own the series on DVD and the manga. Thanks to the publicity of those sites :D
This guy should watch people he loves die from cancer and then use those kind of words. He should be so damn proud he has to wish cancer upon someone instead of talking about it properly like a civlized person. Damn am I glad his manga isn't in my list of "Too Buy"...
Well then, i hope he die of hunger...oh wait, i forgot, with all the money he have its impossible.
Noobs, the world is evolving, adapt or die,you cant stop the internet, millions of people Vs whoever ;)