“I Ordered My Men to Use a Prisoner for Bayonet Practice”

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An elderly Japanese veteran’s recollection of how he ordered his men to use a Chinese prisoner as a target for bayonet drill, reasoning that the soldiers needed to develop some “backbone,” is proving highly controversial online.

The 90-year-old man, a resident of Wakayama prefecture, recounts how he served in the Imperial Japanese Army and was dispatched to Jiangxi in southern China in 1941, aged 20.

The men forced Chinese to provide them food, but he recalls doubts – “We were taught that this was a holy war to save the people of China, but I wondered if this was really right.” He was not told of the laws of war.

He experienced bitter fighting on the frontlines, and recalls that when not fighting he spent his time being beaten and whipped by superiors.

By 1943 he was a corporal, and in command of 5 conscripts himself. He tells how, in order to put some backbone into his men, he ordered them to bayonet a Chinese prisoner – a man in his mid twenties.

His hands were tied and the corporal ordered his men to charge the man one by one with fixed bayonets, each running 10m and then stabbing him in the chest. The prisoner  screamed as he realised what his captors were about to do, but the soldiers had soon killed him.

After returning home he did not speak of the incident, though his recollection of the events never faded – “I did an inhuman thing.”

“My ignorance [of international law] caused me to give that order. We lost our reason in that kill or be killed world back then.”

Despite speaking about his war experiences repeatedly, only in 2010 did he reveal he ordered the murder – “If we don’t tell people, I fear the world may again descend into war.”

As ever, the 2ch response is instructive:

“More leftist fabrication?”

“Like that fake ‘Contest to behead 100 men‘ Mainichi reported.”

“You won’t instil any backbone in anyone by killing dirty Koreans or whatever anyway. Maybe if you killed hundreds like in the Nanjing massacre, but that was faked anyway.”

“He’s a B-class war criminal – he admits it. There should be no problem executing him – Mainichi did for the two officers in that contest.”

“This old man is not to be believed. He has no proof and it is all subjective. This biased newspaper probably made it up anyway.”

“International law is just an excuse – what about America’s indiscriminate bombing and nuclear attacks?”

“Prisoners of war were considered despicable cowards in Imperial Japan, and the feeling seems to be they didn’t deserve to live in case they committed further acts of treachery. And all human lives were treated like disposable trash in that period…”

“Maybe in Japan, but other countries treated PoWs well.”

“There’s no statute of limitations for war crimes is there? Won’t he be tried?”

“There are no laws against war crimes in Japan. As a result there are no war criminals in Japan. The A/B/C class war criminals were just a farce made up by the UN.”

“They should really try him. The death penalty is only fitting.”

“They had 3 million troops in China so it probably did happen here and there. The net right wingers are always babbling about their horrible delusions that Nanjing, comfort women and Unit 731 were all made up.”

“It was just him being an idiot. I wish he’d stop saying the whole army was bad just because of what he did. At least, I wouldn’t have killed a prisoner.”

“If he really was ashamed of what he did, why didn’t he tell the Chinese and accept their punishment? This is a clear war crime. He didn’t think the prisoner was even a human being, and just used him as an object for his men to train on as he thought they needed it, and ordered it all. But when he lost the war he ran off.

It can hardly be called sincere for him not to confess for all this time. He should have apologised to the prisoner by taking his own life. What a spineless coward.”

“Wasn’t the prisoner a guerilla? You don’t have to treat them as PoWs…”

“For doing something so atrocious you just want to tell him to go and slice open his own belly, don’t you? This old fool is busy shifting the blame for his actions – I hope he dies soon. And to think this guy is probably getting a war pension…”

“Note – ‘he thought it necessary’ – it wasn’t the army’s fault, this was just one crazy soldier’s decision!”

“All responsibility lies with the Showa Emperor. As he has inherited the responsibility, executing the Heisei Emperor is fine too.”

“Japan took relatively good care of its prisoners. This was just one man’s actions.”

“The net rightist filter:

Q1. Is he alive?

YES→ to Q2

NO→An honoured spirit of  Yasukuni

Q2. Did he say something?

YES→ to Q3

NO→A Hero of the Empire

Q3. Was it favourable to the Imperial Army?

YES→ A Hero of the Empire

NO→Traitor”

“Another fanciful lie. There’s no way a mere corporal could have decided what to do with prisoners. You underestimate the Imperial Army.”

“They don’t even give his name – just another fake.”

“They should turn him over to China.”

“You guys, denying anything inconvenient to your point of view is really bad. Scepticism is important, but denying everything based on ideology is the same level as those dirty Koreans.”


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    Avatar of Icy-nee-san
    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    01:04 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I've heard worse stories from my father when he was in the navy and when he was in a POW camp

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:32 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whoaaaaaa, people in your father's POW camp were subjected to severe frostbite in their limbs, then had each limb amputated one by one without anesthesia, then had their still-live head and torso experimented upon with biological weapons?

    DAMN, son.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:49 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    War in itself is a crime. All who participate in it are guilty. War doesn't create heroes or villains because, at the end of the day, all soldiers who survived a battlefield have blood on their hands.

    The rom,atic garbage is only suitable for Hollywood. Veterans could tell you something about the mental and physical traumas that will haunt them for the rest of their miserable lives.
    It's really no use to shove around the moral highground and pass judgments on who's the worst "war-criminal" and which side killed more people.

    As long as we can avert another WW we are on the right course.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:04 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not surprising, we saw what the Japanese did to prisoners on the islands that were being recaptured from them and other areas as well as heard the stories of what they did to the Koreans.

    To stop a way of life is about what world wars are fought for in the first place. To stop a very bad way of life that causes even more and more pain upon every one. This guys story is just one of a million but one that was told, the rest took what they did to their graves.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:36 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Only take av 's fuck country.

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    Comment by Lily
    23:06 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hi, a Korean here,

    I would really like it if you stopped calling us "dirty." It doesn't make us feel very nice, you see. I shower every day and I smell like vanilla.

    From,
    Lily

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:31 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Korean girls are hot!

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Let me fix that for you...

    Asian girls a hot!

    Avatar of Abel Liegod
    Comment by Abel Liegod
    00:34 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Living Target
    Not better way to test human killer weapons...

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    Comment by Dia
    00:36 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seems pretty sensible to me. Shooting someone 100m away is probably easier than stabbing them without previous experience, so making them get a feel for it beforehand sounds like a good idea.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:23 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    2ch defending japanese war crimes? Wow, just... wow...

    Avatar of General Jack D. Ripper
    23:13 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe the 2ch should remember this; "Ninja and Samurai cannot survive the fissioning of the Atom"

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow those fuckers at 2ch really hate Korean's. Buncha racist pricks over there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:26 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In Japan
    South Korea is the one like Islam in the United States.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:36 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    while the whole load of you are here fucking each other, the real villains who created wars and pushed all men into desperation are sitting high up counting their money

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:24 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Japanese did something worse... Unit 731.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:10 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well....i'm happy the American decide to Bomb The japanese. If not, They still think japan can win the war & what they do are right. Hearthless japanese...

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:04 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only reason the Japanese continue to say the rape of Nanking never happened, is because "Nanking never felt it with our tiny, miniscule, insignificant penises"

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:29 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man, who downvoted this? Best post in the entire fucking thread.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah , but not justn't that, a long ago japanese has colonize indonesian just for 3 years, but it worse than when netherland colonize, they make the people to work like an animal, even they don't care about their health , they kidnap young girl to become their army's *** slave . ., and they used the people to make their pawn's for war, and after they lose they left the country without any reciprocation. and now they angry just because of the past, and so they forget about their sins. . . what the heck is this . .

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:38 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow, never knew living in denial could go this far.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:55 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There were international laws already back then? And signed by Japan?
    Otherwise, there would be no crime here as something has to be illegal to be a crime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:38 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mio akiyama's voice actor(Yoko hikasa)nude Video

    ttp://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11777390

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:17 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    too beautiful...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:19 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    God, these Japanese youths are so clueless. They say Japan is more progressive than backwards China, but their ignorance of Nanjing is just as bad as Chinese youths' ignorance of Tiananmen.

    It's pretty bad when people in foreign countries know your country's history better than you do.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:24 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    fu ck japanese!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:30 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan is an abnormal state!
    They do not understand people say!
    Your flag is like a used sanitary napkin!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:25 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    fu ck you
    japanese!

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    Comment by Kinny Riddle
    21:52 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ttp://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/03/04/ldp-japan-must-introduce-conscription/ (Add the "h" in front of the address)

    Well, 2ch, here was your chance to sign up for the Imperial Army and show your patriotic fervour at last and teach these Chinese and Korean upstarts to learn their place and not challenge your beloved Empire for doing what it should do.

    And how did you react?

    You all bloody chickened out.

    And thanks to you guys holing up and playing eroge all day, China has now taken over your country as the 2nd largest economy in the world.

    And if you guys believe fervently in 1940s militarism, do you think a government like that would have allowed the likes of you to even survive? They would have thrown you in the concentration camps to rot, while poking bayonets at your beloved 2D girl figures.

    If possible, these xenophobic hikkikomori Scum should be gathered in one spot (away from all the other sensible Japanese people) and have a 3rd nuke tossed at them. They're useless to society and they can't procreate (if jacking off to 2D girls is their idea of procreating), so they might as well rid themselves from the human gene pool once and for all.

    Fucking racist cunts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:09 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can you give me an "Amen" !

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    Comment by Master Slavehandler
    21:42 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol, from most of the comments here I can tell that most of you are chinese dick riders. Poor helpless china, the victim of Japan...... what a load of shit seriously.

    How can they claim to be victims when they are doing the same thing today in Tibet, beating up defenseless monks who cant fight back. Chinese propaganda at its best, pretending to be victims so that no one pays attention to the brutalities that they are committing today.

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    Comment by Shippoyasha
    23:02 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    To be fair, Chinese citizens are oppressed and ruled by their own government. In WW2, they were slaughtered by the Japanese. The damn citizens just can't get break. It's f'n sad.

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    Comment by Kinny Riddle
    21:56 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The commie apologists aside, no one else here is saying what Communist China is doing is right, but that alone does not justify these 2ch dicks from their irresponsible behaviour.

    And you wonder why the Communist Party finds it so easy to control their masses, because 2ch constantly feeds them the xenophobic ammo on their own.

    Just because you've raped my mom doesn't mean I'm entitled to rape your mom back.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:33 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol
    another propaganda-washed fag
    do some research and you will know what did those "defenseless monks" do

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:46 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Tibetan monks were as bad as the Chinese commies:

    http://www.ethnikoi.org/tibet.htm

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    Comment by Klingengeist
    21:32 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are sick people all around the globe, everything is possible...

    After reading the history of Oda Nobunaga i know there were/are also many stupid japanese and i dont mean him. ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "“You guys, denying anything inconvenient to your point of view is really bad. "

    This guy is a genius.

    "Scepticism is important, but denying everything based on ideology is the same level as those dirty Koreans."

    Then he says this.

    :|

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:54 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure that old man is delusional. Much better to believe government sponsored text books than actual Imperial army veterans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:54 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wow they call us dirty koreans?????? those arrogant japanese should all die

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In WWII there really was good and evil sides.
    Japan unfortunately was on the side of evil in that war.

    As for the US's use of nukes it was only after much deliberation and in the end the action resulted in less deaths on both sides.
    An invasion of Japan would have resulted in far more death then those two bombs.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

    The generally inexcusable treatment of POWs ,use of germ warfare and the vile actions at unit 731 in China probably helped the decision.

    The irony is that surrendering to the US may have been the one thing that saved Japan from Soviet occupation and allowed it to quickly recover and become a great economic power.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:35 19/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Much less deaths than an unnecessary invasion, you mean. America wanted Japan to agree to an unconditional surrender (even Churchill thought they were insane) and turn the country into another puppet state. And even if the Soviets had occupied Japan, they did the same to East Germany. East Germany may have suffered greatly at their hands, but nowhere near as much as Japan did with the bombings.

    Why do we always have to try to justify the unjustifiable? And why do we have to stick up for one country when putting others down? Germany, the USSR and Japan may have been the worst overall, but the USA's atomic bombings are definitely among that war's shameful "highlights".

    Just about all participants in WW2 behaved despicably. Understandable, given the vicious desperation of that war, but not forgiveable.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:44 19/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah, while pardoning them for their warcrimes and even lets them continue their human experimentations with CIA support.

    It's known fact that the US pardoned the key scientists of the Unit 731 in exchange for cooperation in continueing their germ-warfare research program under the command of the US.
    They even let the same people (Dr. Shiro Ishii for exp.), who killed and tortured thousands of people with their experimentations, to continue their researches on living humans during Korean War, with Chinese and North Korean POW's as victims.

    And all the results from these research, was used to develop germs and agents for chemical and biological warfare, as used in Agent Orange during Vietnam War.

    If there is an absolute prince of evil in this world, then it's the USA with their equally evil cronies under their protective organisation, called 'the free world'.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:45 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    2ch trolls are still trolls. Consider 2ch like 4ch.

    As for what I think, it happened decades ago and the guy's remorseful. No reparations can be made over even one unnecessary death, so just get over it. This world needs to grow up on so many levels, seriously...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:56 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    “International law is just an excuse – what about America’s indiscriminate bombing and nuclear attacks?”

    国際法なんて建前でしかない事はアメリカの無差別爆撃と原爆投下が教えてくれた

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:06 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I feel like some people fail to see this for what it is. If true then it is just another story about the horrors of war and the monstrous capabilities of human nature. If fake then its a poor peice of propaganda since I almost feel as sorry for the old man as the guy that was bayonetted to death for having to live with the guilt. In reallity, war is ugly and rittled with a history of unforgivable and unspeakable deeds that were commited in the name of the cause or patriotism. Im not saying war justifies these actions but its no reseason to condem a 90 year old man for something he did ages ago; you learn from it and move on trying not to this kind of stuff happen agian in the future.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:31 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I see your point. It's a case of "It was a good idea at the time" If i have to give it a humorous touch.

    But yeah, isn't there a saying that goes a soldier kilss and a man lives with it? or something like that i am not sure.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:44 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    we can not learn from it !!!
    each time a big war come ... those horrible things will a start all over !!

    its still happening today and the history keep repeating !!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:54 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Was "dirty Koreans" really called for?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:20 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    For those of you claiming fire bombing of Tokyo, check this out:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Firebombing_leaflet.jpg

    We warned them to get out...so as to limit civilian casualties. We do that nowadays too....its called PsyOps. We have USAF/Army units trained on this thing....only with modern channels(TV, paper, radio, internet?)

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:58 19/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The South Korean and Chinese fabricate and shout these.
    They always say, "facts...facts...facts...", but do not present the precise data. (It is not possible to do. Because such a thing doesn't exist. )
    The historical science researcher in the United States investigated various data and proved there was no such facts.
    They fabricate fake stories, and in every case demand money from Japan.
    These are the activities concerning finance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:23 19/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Time to look forward.

    As Chinese I'm pretty cool with all those right-wingers and racists ranting about 'us dirty Chinese', since it just proof that they feel threatened and cornered by China's growing power.

    Not only did China overtook Japan in terms of PPP like a decade ago, but also in terms of GDP recently, making it the second largest economy in the world.

    And reading the 2010 DOD Pentagon Report about the Chinese Military, and imagining all the wet panties of fat, middle-aged american politicians, I can surely say that the century of weakness and humiliation for the Chinese people is finally over.

    It's now up to Japan to bend over. And no amount of sucking off America will save them in the long run.












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