“Wii Successor Due – No Details as MS/Sony Will Rip Us Off”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Aug 9, 2010 20:41 JST
- Tags: Announcements, Controllers, Nintendo, Patents, Plagiarism, Wii
Nintendo has confirmed the Wii successor console is well underway, but will not talk about it at all for fear of it being ripped off.
Nintendo boss Satoru Iwada confirmed that a successor to its wildly successful Wii console is under development – however, he refuses to part with any details out of fear that the competition will swipe the idea:
“Unfortunately, the history of entertainment is also the history of imitation.
If a superb idea comes out, and it’s something you can’t protect with a patent, it will be copied immediately.”
He goes on to talk about the importance of “surprising” consumers – this and his secretiveness seem to suggest the successor may be more than just a Wii with upgraded hardware.
Previously Nintendo has been keen to point out that the Move and Kinect are mere copies of its Wiimote – though considering how long it took Microsoft and Sony to come out with them, they hardly seem to pose a major threat.
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Nintendo might take the usual route of making a cost-effective console that they can sell at a profit from day 1 or try to actually compete this time around.
how much u wanna bet the new character they are making is for this next gens mascot
Oh cry me a river... Both Kinect and Move, being video camera based systems, actually capitalize on roughly 20 year old work that began before Nintendo ever rendered a polygon. I know Move was essentially running on PS2. Here it is in 2004, ripping the Wii off a couple years before it existed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSzmRt7HhQ
But if Nintendo hates copycats so much, I'm sure they'll be happy putting out their next system with cartridge based games that save to their own internal RAM.
...VR headsets!! YES!
....
Yea right, 20 years too soon I'm afraid (-_-)
I think you guys are missing the point, big time. Nintendo might not be technically "first" to invent anything, but to take a relatively new technology and base your entire production, sales, marketing and strategy behind it is much different than the actual invention.
Tesla invented all kinds of insane stuff, but he didn't have the know-how to market and sell the stuff.
Nintendo's Wii was innovative because it took relatively new or different technology and placed it in a existing forum that had largely not used that technology in that way, not because they actually invented anything. If the term "innovative" meant that one had to also invent everything that ended up being used in that same innovative product, we would all be singing high praise to the maker of the wheel, because we really wouldn't get shit else done in a day.
The debate about "firsts" is really just as asinine and counter-productive as those who post "First!" in threads. It's not hard to see where the Wii was innovative, and more so than its rivals. Denying this by getting into a discussion of who actually created what first is missing the forest for a tree.
The only thing Iwata is saying here is that they've got a successor that will also try something probably new to the video game industry, and they'd prefer that idea to not to be ripped off by their competitors. Will Nintendo actually invent every single piece of hardware/software in the successor? No, of course not. Stop being idiots.
Agreed fully.
Too many Sonytards up in this place. Seriously.
Well-played, Nintendo.
Twenty bucks says the new thing is a complete powerhouse Nintendo plans to sell at a significant loss for the first little while. They certainly have enough in their coffers to justify it, and they can use "hardware shortages" to pad out the time between when they lose money and when they gain money on the console while keeping demand high.
Hard to say what they'll do to innovate, though.
I love the wii :D mainly due to games that utilizes motion control well. like No more heroes, resident evil 4, metroid prime trilogy etc.... whatever your making nintendo it will surely turn gold :)
Well I wont probably by a new nintendo. They usually have few games to choose between that is good or somewhat good compared to Playstation or Xbox.
I dont care about which system it is just that the game have 1: Good story, 2: Good graphics, 3: good game play.
And everyone going on about wii beating ps3 and xbox on sales its pretty obvious it would as its nintendo. Its a system mostly for children. Dont hate me for that but its the truth. They have more of these mario, pokemon type of kid games than the others consoles which usually women like too in all ages.
ppl can rage for what i wrote but its the truth. I just hope they make something cool that can actually produce some nice graphics and so on.
Didn't you see the sales for the Gamecube and N64? The last time Nintendo had success like this in home consoles was way back in the age of the SNES.
I could point out all the adult games on the Wii, but there's little point. You're clearly intent on ignoring all the "kid games" on Sony or Xbox.
What you said isn't the "truth", it's just your ill-formed opinion. I understand what you're saying and it does make sense, but a conjecture is a conjecture none the less.
There have been plenty of mature Nintendo titles, but in the end, they're all video games and that's all it should matter.
oh, goody, another system to help me exercise and take to nursing homes. :|
As long as it can output 720p with some goddamn AA at least, I don't care if it's just Wii HD.
Nintendo is the new Apple.
All they need to do is start charging twice as much for their less powerful hardware, and making sure their loyal fanboys feel special and "countercultural" for buying Nintendo, and they'll be rolling in more money than ever!
If they are gonna put it like that isn't Nintendo copying Sonys Eyetoy/Playstation Eye?
According to Nintendos logic if someone takes an idea and wishes to improve it theyre stealing. If this were true why arent all these car companies and companies who produce stuff going to jail or getting fines. Because ultimately all theyre doing is "stealing" from eachother.
Because that's not what Iwada said, fag. He wanted to preserve his idea to protect his sales. Try pulling an automobile on that one
Hopefully they stop pursuing that infantile "IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OUR SYSTEM IS AWFUL IN SPECS AND ONLINE CAPABILITIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL *insert gimmick*"
The Wii was such a goddamn abortion, motion control was insanely overrated.
Nintendo is the greatest game company in the universe and all those parallel. All arguments against this claim are irrevocably futile.
wii wii (urine)
Copying? That's harsh, I was thinking innovation.
Also nintendo basically set the standard for controllers. If you look at a PS1 controller, its just a Snes controller but with handles, two more shoulder buttons...And thats kinda it. Kinda sad that they strayed away from it by releasing the GC, and 64 controller. Nice ideas but eh...
I have my hopes up. After seeing what they're planning with the 3DS(making it more powerful than PS2), I think they finally realized that they need to start appealing to their more serious fans again and stop making cheap shovelware that's behind the curve.
Evidentaly, they're not wrong.
This might explain why their virtual console service in the west has dried up like an dead old man's raisin-like testicles.
And now i dunno if I should buy ever a Wii... I was considering so maybe in this next or the years after but with information like thise i dunno now. . .
Well I would still want one, i want to play some games from it and some from Game Cube but damn... i want to buy a live console with support and new games on it, not a dead one >.>
A successor already? I'm still waiting for some half-decent games to come out...
Nintendo is full of surprises. Anyone interested in Nintendo's strategy should check this article out:
http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
It has to do with the whole "casual" gaming. This article was written before this year's E3 and does a very good job analyzing Nintendo's strategy this generation. I wounldn't be surprised if Nintendo's next gen console becomes more "hardcore"-based than the Wii.
I consider myself a reader, and so I read articles and magazines all the time... But that article is seriously too long. Author needs to learn to make a point in half of the amount of words.
No worries Iwada. Your next console will again be beta test platform for Sony's next console.
So, we really have to thank you for it.
I can't wait to play Wii Resort in 1080p!
Wooooooo~
Cool, can't wait for another gimicky system with crappy graphics and even crappier games. It's unfortunate that they hold the license to a lot of really good game properties that are doomed to be played on that weak system.
Also, I blame the Wii for the advent of casual gamers that have caused the producers to flood us with a thousand rock band and guitar hero sequels and other lame ass gimick games that are plaguing the rest of us.
It's not Nintendo's fault that other companies are releasing crappy games. Entertainment industry has one big weakness and that is other companies trying to cash in on successful products made by their competitors. The gaming industry is no exception, and it's much more obvious because the game marketers will push successful genres instead of trying to break the mode. Nintendo has been highly successful in developing low-tier(aka "casual" as people call it these days) games.
See, in order to make profit, you compete with other companies to win over a shared pool of target demographic. However, Nintendo has decided to target an untapped market, and did a very good job of it. The trick here is that Nintendo isn't focusing on making "casual" games for all eternity. What they'll probably do now is make a tier-2(games that appeals to to the "casual" but is deep enough for the "hardcore") in order to market to the same group of people who are now known as "casual gamers". They're moving to phase 2, but what is Sony and Microsoft going to do? They're going after the people that are now moving away from casual games to more hardcore titles.
This was analyzed in this article(written about a year ago):
http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
And this is all evident by the way they are now releasing more core titles at E3.
So don't blame Nintendo, blame the industry that does nothing but try to imitate and ride off other people's success.
Love/Hate relationship with my Nintendo Wii, but I'm still pretty much a Nintendo fanboy. It seems that they really don't want to get copied again this time around.
Until they start catering for hardcore fans again, I won't care. I wasted money on the Wii, and I'm not making that mistake again. No matter how "Surprising!" they are.
Unless it comes with an actual 1-up Mushroom.
Nintendo Psy, where you control the games using sheer telepathic powah!
HD BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY PL0X!
Seriously, Most Wii games would look SO much better in HD. Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros. Brawl being prime examples. Though something tells me this won't happen.
According to Brawl hackers, all the textures are capable of being fully HD rendered on a computer. It wouldn't even require upscaling, it would be real Wii HD!
SSBB in HD would be quite neat indeed.
What would i give, if there is only 1 kind of console with all the gadgets and stuff... it would be so peaceful without the console battles, copyright issue, porting headaches and whatnot
No regions!
Also skyhigh prices as nobody would be able to compeete with that anyway.
Ahh...
-Wait a minute!
Been four years already?
Sure, most of the time Nintendo doesn't invent its own tech., however, it's the company that's bold enough to incorporate that technology within the context of the video game industry. Nintendo is the innovator and the trendsetter.
I look forward to laughing in the faces of the haters when Nintendo continues to dominate the handheld and home console market next gen. It'll be even funnier to see Sony and Microsoft scurry behind in an attempt to catch up, but by then, knowing Nintendo, they'll have already come up with the next big thing.
Here's what it does: Makes you 2D.
You buy a disk with a certain setting on it, such as from a game, hentai or anime.
This really isn't news per se. Of course they're developing a new console, probably have been for a while. And I'm sure MS and Sony are as well, although the PS3 will likely have a longer lifespan like the PS2 did even though the situation is quite different.
afaik nintendo never cared about being copied
i think i read an article where iwata stated he was happy with the success that its being copied (not too sure though, maybe i misread something.. this was when the move was first announced)
either way as long as nintendo keeps producing their games at a high standard they'll have my money..
i honestly dont really care hardware.. as long as they have software to support the hardware any company will have my money
ok supprise me nintendo, hope your new console is stronger than ps3 or 36 .... x3
who cares? lets wait and see, dunno what to expect
btw nintendo is "special" and need´s special treatment x3 let them think they´re the inventor of everything
They could make a Cirno edition. It would be the strongest console.
You can get a lot of overclocking in when your system is fairy-cooled!
yeah x3 cirno <3
i'd rather see some sort of hologram system that can blow the PS3's 3D out of the water... but that's still kinda farfetched...
Or sponsor Zun and get his games to the console.
Imagine Touhou as a free software on the Wii.
its too bad zun being a bitch about it saying he'll never go official, says he enjoys doing dojinshi for touhou
Touhou, maybe even in HD and 3D (H3D?), would be epic win. There are tons of fans out there, such a move would guarantee success.
Because "stronger is always better" right? After all, that's the reason why the PS3 and 360 are way ahead in terms of sales of the Wii. Oh wait!
Hardware has always been secondary to software. The Gameboy proved that against the Game Gear. And now, Wii against everybody else. In other words, shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about. It just makes you look like an ass.
Go back and fap to your pathetic lolis.
Please, keep the lolis out of this.
♪Troll out louder♪
How cute, a troll. ^_^
Sure, power is not everything and the Wii proves that, but still they have to update it. Not to the latest expensive hightech, but a reasonable powerful and cheap level.
Nintendo managed 3D on the 3DS, a cheap not really uber powerful handheld, so there is much to expect.
A PSP 1.5 without the pathetic battery life out of the box. I don't know about you but that makes me happy enough.
the 3DS is not that powerful. Yes it is more powerful than the wii, but that's only because the wii is so low tech. Think of it this way. The 3DS is only slightly better than the psp in terms of hardware, but the psp was released 4 or 5 years ago.
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But the 3DS is an uber powerful handheld. They said it was better than a Wii and stuff.
that and a second nub...
I don't really care about graphics improvement for the psp, I think they're enough for a handheld.
I'd only buy a PSP2 if they were able to emulate PSP and PS2 games. Otherwise I don't think there's a need for console/graphics update.
I wouldn't buy a +$300 game console on release day without knowing a single thing about it, I just hope it doesn't end up like Kinect and its hatred for coach potatoes and disabled people.
lol sounds funny, but its so f-ing true!
Yay the successor with the sphincter controllers
A slightly better PS3 that you can do something insanely worthless with like control features of the game through voice.
Call it Nintendo Voc or something, slap a high price on it, and laugh that people ignore it has the power of a system that's almost 10 years old.
Much like the Wii(ps2) and much like the new DS i (psp).
Whatever it is, it will make other consoles be one step behind Wii again.
Well, considering PS3 and 360 are way ahead the Wii, I doubt it.
True. It seems like once Sony/Microsoft get their rip-off-wii-mote-thingy out, Nintendo's gonna have something new out already.
It was also known as the Dolphin before the Revolution tag got pasted on it.
Sony and Microsoft may have to team up to beat Nintendo at this rate.
Imagine, Miku project Diva with Kinect.
Oh wait that's dance dance revolution. But I'd still play it anyway just to see Haku bend over.
The Dolphin was actually the Gamecubes codename, hth
Actually Nintendo copied Sony with the whole wiimote thing. The had the move created for the PS2 10 years ago, but didn't do anything with it until Nintendo took their idea and made it popular.
Like "WWIII"...
OH SHIT!
The name "Wii" came out LAST.
They told us what it was like 2 years before release. It was called The Nintendo Revolution for a long time remember?
The Nintendo Why
Awww, come on.
Just a name please???
It's not like when "Wii" was announced, did we think it was gonna be a remote strapped to our hands and go "Weeeeee" literally...
Based on Nintendo's track record the last 10+ years it will be...
A slightly better PS3, long after the PS3 has been out for years and years and YEARS..
No, he's right. They were the first to implement rumble, the first to use an analog joystick on a home console, the first to implement save features and most recently, the first to utilize motion controls and touch screens. And these are only the more obvious ones.
While the Intellivision used a sort of d-pad tilting disc in its controller, the Colecovision used a very similar layout, and a small (wide by today's standards) thumbstick.
Nah, the AX-E1's analogue sticks were thumbsticks, not joysticks.
I'm not sure of exactly when it came out, but I'd guess 1990.
AX-E1? I am definitely not familiar with it...
Sony was the first to have CDs used in their system. This was Playstation. Everyone else didnt. Also not only brought CDs in gaming but 3D gaming as well, with the introduction to Final Fantasy 7.
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The PSX (Playstations Codename) was actually planned to be an ADD ON FOR THE FRIGGIN SNES.
Nintendo wanted Sony to build an Add-on for their SNES, but ditched it... and Sony.
Sony went on and wrote Console History with the Help of Nintendo.
If it wasn't for Nintendo, there would've never been a Sony Playstation to begin with.
The Playstation didn't bring us 3D Gaming as well. What the Fuck are you talking about? Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racing were the first 3D Games made on Consoles before and they were made for the Sega Genisis (ported from the Arcades back then).
Don't get me wrong, I love the PSX, I grew up with the SNES and PSX, but Sony never invented something on their own except maybe the Eyetoy.
I'm pretty sure there where 3D games before FF 7, if only on the PC...
Nintendo!
First in innovation, last in quality!
Also some clarification, when I said they were the first to develop analogue sticks in home consoles, I meant the thumb analogue controls that we are familiar with today, as opposed to the "joysticks" that require you to use your entire hand.
This is a Nintendo article, please keep your Sony cocksucking, dickriding fandom to yourself. Nintendo had a lot of firsts in gaming history, enough said. I for one can't wait to see what they come out with, I am always impressed by what the guys at Nintendo bring.
Actually, Atari 5200 was the first with an analog stick, not Nintendo.
First for CD in a console would be the NEC PC Engine, which was remarkably successful in Japan. By the time the PlayStation came out, Sega were already on their second CD-ROM machine, and arcades had been using Laserdiscs for at least 11 years.
Most innovations are found in arcades. Analogue sticks, certainly, and there were several pre-N64 console versions like the Megadrive's AX-1E. 3D goes back to Battlezone I think in 1980, and full colour polygons in 1983 with I, Robot. Motion sensors were seen in things like Sega's fishing games and Samba de Amigo long before the Wii, and they had the Activator for the Genesis. Rumble is a poor relation to force feedback in gun and driving games. Touch screens were done with the Sega Pico, although there also used to be lightpens back in the CRT screen days.
Nintendo haven't really innovated much at all, and used to be notorious for not adapting to new technologies. But they are very good at marketing themselves so people think otherwise.
The 3DS is mainly a DS with motion sensors and a 3D lenticular display, which has been seen before in the form of add-on plastic covers for the screens of other handheld devices. It's not really doing anything that some phones from 2006 couldn't do, although it does have the advantage of some decent buttons and a good back-catalogue.
Sony was the first with blue ray discs though...
The Wiimote was a gimmick that got in the way of gaming in most cases, very few games that used it were enjoyable to play with it. Thankfully, we could still use Gamecube controllers, LOL~
I was disappointed when Sony copied the tool, and I'm just as disappointed with the motion tracking performance on Microsoft's end.
The Nintendo fanboys should keep in mind Nintendo's recent track record of marketing to casual gaming at the expense of any real gaming before they blow their wad at this 'new' console.
Not to be a Sony fanboy, but Sony had the first DUAL analog controller, which was quickly ripped off by everyone. Also: Why the fuck have they not swapped the second analog stick and the D-Pad yet -_-... I'm sorry, but sony fails at ergonomics. My hand is a shapely claw from long hours of video game playing, and it's shaped in such a way that my left thumb is naturally positioned where their D-pad is. Bunch of assholes, not catering to their own customers needs..
I wonder if anyone made any references to the Sony's PS2's Eyetoy's Magic Wand... Damn that was an ugly first concept of motion control.
Which technically makes Nintendo the copycat in that department... But not like anybody gives a fuck.
Didn't the PS3 launch for $799? Also notorious for being extremely difficult to develop on thus having an initial software drought.
The PS2 was also more expensive at launch than the other consoles.
Playstation and PSP too.
So my question is, where did you get the idea that 'dirt cheap consoles' is part of their philosophy?
Sony ended two debates for home consoles: media format, and graphic strength. Sony's first Playstation had 32-bit graphics at a time when everyone else was ramping up to 64-bit. N64 was constrained by the relatively small size available for cartridges (FF7 was the first of the franchise not to be on a Nintendo system specifically because Sakaguchi wanted to make a bigger, more visual game than was possible on a cart), and developing for the Saturn was incredibly complicated. At the end of the day, the cheaper PS1 with its lower-powered hardware ended up having the best graphics of its generation, owing to the larger space available for textures on the discs.
Pretty much the same thing happened with the PS2: more disc space meant better graphics in spite of quantitatively inferior hardware, and having a built-in DVD player didn't hurt, either.
With the PS3, they decided to go big, and it blew up in their faces.
Remember the PoWER GLOVE? First motion controls!!! If you look it up it is pretty much the same as the Wii Remote!! Nintendo for the win!!!
The only thing Sony did that was 'innovative' was the use of DVDs in the PS2 in a time when DVDs were not a widely accepted medium. When the PSX decided to use CDs, they were a relatively accepted medium thanks to music cds.
Dual thumbsticks could also be somewhat attributed to the PS2, but thumbsticks themselves were innovated much earlier.
Sony was actually the first to implement motion controls. You may have heard of this little device called the Eye Toy for the PS2. The Sixaxis motion controller also shipped with the PS3 which technically launched before the Wii as well. They're also the most aggressive at pushing new and advanced hardware. It may not be "innovative" in the way that some other features are viewed, but it's definitely bleeding edge tech. From DVD players and the emotion engine in the PS2, to Blu-Ray and the Cell processor (and subsequently, PS3 linking) in the PS3.
Where Sony really shines though is 3rd party relations. Establishing features and qualities that developers favor so that they make games for their system (Which is also what MS is really good at, which is why the 360 is stealing some of the PS3's thunder this gen). Nintendo can innovate as much as they'd like, but when all that's available on their system is Mario and Zelda, gamers aren't going to flock to it.
super nintendo had a 3-d game called "3D ballz" it was released in 1994. just throwing that out there.
The AX-E1 didn't work with many games, but was compatible with the Megadrive, Sharp X68000 and also the PC Engine I think. Look it up. It looks a lot like the Saturn NiGHTS pad. Which in turn, although announced after the N64, it added analogue control to several pre-N64 games like Panzer Dragoon and Sega Rally. So quite a bit of forward thinking went into that one.
Sony also went to Sega to develop a console pre-PlayStation. Sega of America were all for the idea, but Sega of Japan weren't.
There were loads of 3D games prior to the Virtua series. Hard Drivin' is a pretty famous one that was released on several home formats. But as I said before, they really go back to the early '80s.
Eyetoy wasn't the first video camera to work with a console. The Dreamcast had the Dreameye, which was pretty cool as it also worked as a digital camera when separated from the DC. And there was one for the Gameboy, although that didn't do much other than take crap pictures as a novelty.
It doesn't really matter if Sony innovated.
In the past, their business philosophy was simply "Dirt cheap console, tons of games."
It worked and their consoles were the best of their respective generations. That's the simple fact.
All the bells and whistles of Nintendo's consoles and accessories are worth a warm pitcher of spittle in comparison to an expansive, high quality selection of games.
"Sony was actually the first to implement motion controls. You may have heard of this little device called the Eye Toy for the PS2"
Not to troll on ya but if you go like that there's the nintendo power glove... long time before the eye toy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Glove
Ok, it was crap, but still...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cd-i
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_CD32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_cd
"Sony was the first to have CDs used in their system." No. No, they weren't.
You thought wrong.
Sony was the first to have CDs used in their system. This was Playstation. Everyone else didnt. Also not only brought CDs in gaming but 3D gaming as well, with the introduction to Final Fantasy 7.
Other than that........maybe you cant hack their system was innovating? Lol im more of a nintendo person. *shrugs*
Well you seem to be someone who doesn't know what there talking about. FF7 was released in 1997 where Super Mario 64, which was a game entirely in 3d came out in 1996. Also sega had the Mega CD for CD play with the Mega Drive in 1991 so they had CD play for a lot longer than sony's ps1. Don't talk, you'll just make yourself seem more stupid.
Hardware wise, Yes the PS3 is the most powerful. But I wouldn't call that innovation.
What has Sony ever done that was so innovative?
they are first in sales...
I thought Nintendo was first in like 80% of all video games innovations...
I think its the Nintendo Power Glove getting the attention it deserves.