Tales of Graces PS3 Due – Wii Beta Testers Duped
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jul 29, 2010 09:21 JST
- Tags: Namco Bandai, Ports, Production Controversy, PS3, Tales of Graces, Tales Series, Wii
In a move unlikely to surprise many given its handling of “Xbox 360 exclusive” Tales of Vesperia, Namco has announced a perfect edition of Tales of Graces on the PS3.
The port promises new story, ougi, and character costumes, and is widely expected to follow the example of Vesperia in introducing all new characters. The elimination of the vast array of bugs which plagued the original can also be expected.
A winter 2010 release is scheduled.
In addition a new PS3 Tales title has been announced, although details are completely lacking, and a 2011 release of PSP crossover Tales title Tales of the World: Radiant Anthology 3 is confirmed.
At this point it seems Wii owners will be sympathising with Xbox 360 owners, having themselves also been granted the honour of being able to buy the chance to beta test the latest Tales game for PS3 owners.
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Namco, PLEASE bring the PS3 port to the US. You're disappointing a lot of major Tales fanboys like myself ;-;
Fuck Namco and their business practices, they're not gonna get another cent from me! Their fiscal-year lost is totally well deserved.
Same shit once again with another game? Return your uncomplete beta for a refund.
Well, M$ asked for it with the one year exclusive rule.
Why are people excited to pay full price for a game that is only slightly better than a game that is a year old now. Other gamers have moved on with their lives while you are excited to play a game that they traded in long ago.
Do they refund in those cases? No more Namco for me until they stop doing this.
Its kinda only worth it if u didn't play the original. I didn't.
Because I didn't buy it and want the PS3 version. Either way, I like spending more time in worlds I enjoy rather than less, and it's not the designers who are the assholes doing shady business practices, it's the business end. The creators would go to hell and back with their designs if they had the chance. I know, because my team does the same.
I don't know what's the big deal. Tales of Graces is not even announced to be release for the wii in america so why do we care if a ps3 version is coming out?
that's what i'm stressin', SA.
Surprise motherfuckers. Surprise.
I'm with you, Anon!
I have all 3 systems, but I want to play the PS3 version of TOV so badly...Just for a certain loli-pirate's pantsu exposure during battles...
And TOG too when it comes out on the PS3...
You can say that again.
I would happily buy a PS3 if they would release both TOV and TOG in English...
don't know why they are throwing their money away on another psp tales of the world. they could spend that money on localizing the better games that actually have a story.
Well said. they'd prob earn more than they thought if it was localized in North America.
Namco continues to piss off. We know the PS3 version is finished yet they galk, and kill more fans with this.
Sure I have all 3 systems, buy by god this makes Valve looks like saints.
Why Namco never learns ?
How to stop them ? Pirate ?
Pirate the 360 and Wii, but no luck with ps3
I agree man Bring it to the states =[
Well this completely turned me off from purchasing any future titles from Namco Bandai. This practice is certainly demeaning to those who were fully intending to support their products, but to make people pay full price only to beta test, then Namco Bandai can go ahead and screw themselves in the ass. Sooner or later they'll do this same crap on a PS3 console "exclusive" game.
You Xbox RROD beta testers sure got told!
....Oh, wait.
Ehh... I'm a little disappointed in them... (and a little sad by the way)
I want English release of Tales of Graces for Wii T_T and of course English Release for Tales of The World: Radiant Mythology 2. . . I would like to play those *sob*
Why not stop complaining and learn some Japanese. The world doesn't move for you little children. :)
According to their profit margins, it does move for us American children and definitely doesn't move for the Japanese market at this point.
You mean how Vesperia did horrible in the U.S. Market and the PS3 version did well in Japan? It's quite obvious why Namco Bandai doesn't want to localize it here, cause it does horrible and low budget or high budget JRPG(s) do horrible here, especially when it's Anime/Cartoony.
Well, it came out only on the 360here, which despite Microsoft's best efforts at solving with money, is the console JRPG players use the least. Considering they already localized Vesperia for the 360 release, it would be minimally expensive for them to release the PS3 version, so it makes especially little sense to me.
If they are doing this, I hope they come out with the PS3 version in the US too. I have both a 360 and a PS3 but refused to buy Vesperia when they kept the PS3 version out of the US.
Yeah they have only themselves to blame for the poor sales. The 360 is not exactly the JRPG players' console.
> "You mean how Vesperia did horrible in the U.S. Market"
I stopped taking you seriously right there. Vesperia did wonder on the 360 in the US compared to the slough 360 games have in Japan.
There is such a thing as Region Locks. You know I can't play your Japanese games on my (insert Region) Console. Even if I speak fluent Japanese?
Some of us would rather not resort to Console Hacking or Pirating.
And this is what I meant by children, they can't feed you with the palm of their hand every single time. If you want something done right, you gotta go out there and do it yourself instead of waiting at home all day whining and crying.
It's true they could've released a localized version of Vesperia PS3 here with minimal effort but they didn't. I'm sure it would have done well and I'm not saying they shouldn't localize ANY Tales games, I'm just saying if you REALLY wanted to play something, instead of crying, you could be be learning Japanese if you're desperate enough to whine about it and dish out the extra cash.
You are crying about people crying so whats the point hypocrite. They whine because they want a game, you whine because they whine, I whine because you whine that they whine.
Why won't you shut your little "jap" and pay me for some Japanese lessons? I would gladly attend them.
Mommy didn't give you enough allowance, son?
And now Your being a fagot, Congratulations.
*Note to self* Don't feed a troll in future, not only did he take you to your level, he will beat you on the field of experience.
Would be great of Namco Bandai Games announce this and the Vesperia PS3 port for an English release.
Well they just seem to being dicks with there games now, love tales but these actions are just stupid IMO here have a full priced game we will just come out with a better ver later that wont even get ported to your area :P or even your console. Gah just seems like stupid marketing to the fans i say
meh...
I don't care. It's not gonna be localized anyway. Just like the many other tales games that never made it here.
The sad truth.
you know what i dont get. why not sell the patches and things as dlc at least to the 360 market, i man the company is doing piss poor right now, and a 20$ dlc im sure most people would pay for it.
it may be a shit move on the fans, but it would at least let you have the same content
I knew it. COME TO ME, ToG~~
Fan translation of Graces is on the way. Bamco can fuck off.
LOL
It doesn't matter, The 360 is getting Otomedius Excellent.PS3 is not.
eh, what? Can't hear you over the awesomeness of my not-likely-to-stop-working console.
You know, I was talking to a guy who said he'd gone through 10 Xbox 360s... seriously, 10 of them.
"Wouldn't you have figured out that you're receiving broken hardware after the... 5th one? At least?"
You kinda really need both the 360 and PS3 to get the most out of the current lineups.
Once you get past the bias, you'll find its to your advantage to play/own both.
10? I call bullshit. 1-3 I can see, but 10? Get past the ridiculous numbers.
You kind of pointed the truth 10:55 Anon. I own both systems both systems I do have my issues with.
Yeah 10 is BS or the guy is washing them in his tub and surprised they don't work after.
But you're right real gamers own both all systems.
fuckkkkkk i want that game for the ps3. most shumps should either be available on ps3 and xbox 360. damn it because of no more heroes bizzare jelly 5 game my interest in shumps have grown.
on topic namco please localize vesperia, Tales of Graces F, and the new one as well as the radiant mythology. either give it to atlus and sony or maybe marvelous.
Hear hear. PS3 need more decent RPG list. It's a long shot but I hope they localise this.
shitastic marketin choice
WOOOOOOO!!! we SO saw this coming!!
Called it.
Namco Bandai can't seem to make up there mind ether put the game on PS3,PSP,DS,Wii,or Xbox 360.
Choose one.
Why not all? Or almost all, with full content on each?
Oh wait, because that is a sound business strategy.
So the Buisness strategy is to attract casual players into playing a JRPG on the PS3?
....hanazawa kana in my ps3.
OH.MY.GOD best news of the days,fuck you nintendo and your non-import friendly white brick.
i'm rewarded for waiting,once more.
and the next tales main is on ps3 too?
love it.
....but heck from what i saw on a cleaner scan concerning RM3:
kanonno voiced by hirano aya?
ARE YOU SHITTING ME BAMCO?GIVE HER VOICE BACK!DAMMIT!
not even bitching on aya being her VA,just MAD cause i actually LOVED her voice !
......oh well...not like i intended to buy a new psp for that game..
Congrats, you sounds like a gigantic faggot.
The only faggot I see here is you good sir>_<
Well, this does not surprise me...it's namco we're talking about, after all
Yay! Wanted a HD tales. Localization or translation is not important to me. Those lazy liars always make up stuff when translating anyway.
With SC2, Otoboku2 and Neptune 2010 is truly a great year.
Wow, Namco being a bunch of fuckheads. What a surprise!
too bad it's never coming to USA like the wii tales of grace
It's not like they're fixing the bugs from the xbox360 version because they like the PS3 more, the bugs simply never showed up after they ported it because the xbox360 is a bug-prone system.
I REALLY hope that Bamco goes bankrupt and closes down
asap.
They're doing terrible as a company because they don't know how to do shit right.
Not like they even try to do anything right anyways.
I want im@s 2 and tales. I hope they don't bankrupt.
As far as I can remember tales studio reported some 2billion yen deficit last fiscal year and TOG only sold fewer than 0.2million copies in Japan... Maybe you cannot solely blame them for being so desperate.. but yeah.. they should stop acting as if a game is exclusive and then make a full version on another platform after 1/2 yr.
It gets them more money releasing versions for 1 console at a time. Lying is good business, from their standpoint.
This comment could go onto an economics rant, but no one would care anyway.
YOU WII BETA TESTERS CASUAL FAGS SURE GOT TOLD.
Guess what, now I have both 360 and PS3 (could care less about the Wii). Screw the exclusivity stuff, all that worries me now is the porting matter, it sucks when a serie I like don't make it's way overseas.
Who gives a shit... At least the wii version is getting fan translated.
http://talesofgraces.com/
Give them support cuz you know the ps3 version has 0% chance of coming out here.
Doesn't even look much better from those scans.
I haven't seen very good fan (or official for that matter) translations. Hope they really put in the effort.
Tales of Innocence's translation is quite good.
Don't be picky, something's better than nothing.
Something (made up/lies) is not better then nothing. Many fan translations and even official translations do a most horrible job at translating.
There was a sankaku fansub fail article you might want to look at. Doremi's liargate on MaiOtome is another interesting event.
The thing is only those who don't need the translation can vouch for its quality. If not don't understand JP, you won't know if they're lying or not.
Wii Beta Testers Duped.... hmm didn't know you could beta test PS3 code on Wii hardware. Apparently the meaning beta testing has changed.
You fail. It was a joke, poking fun at the people who bought the (now revealed to be) incomplete version of a game that would later be ported to a different system in a more complete form.
Namco, you gotta stop doing this kind of $hit.
They'll choke on it sooner or later.
"At this point it seems Wii owners will be sympathising with Xbox 360 owners"
You mean the Wii owners long since finished the game, have moved on to something else and by now really couldn't give two shits about it being ported to the Polished Sloppy-seconds 3?
Word.
How could Wii owners finish the game when 90% of them got a glitch that prevented them from doing so?
Lawl.
glitch? I imported TOG (the first edition with all bugs included) and finished it without problem. That a-something (don't remember the name) key bug only affects the second play. This is a very buggy game for the second play, but definitely a game worth playing if you like tales.
funny thing is that xbawks user were saying the same thing with tov ps3...
coincidence?
..if not the next thing will be:"let's bitch about ps3 version having more and hope(read:cry) for dlc!"
amen
Too bad we won't see this since Namco's Tales branch is the RPG equivalent of Minori and Illusion
IT's about time the regulation agencies started hitting their @$$es badly. And they complain about piracy...
I'm NOT buying Namco titles again until they regain my trust. This is plain disrespect towards their customers.
The real losers are everyone outside Japan, considering Namco refuses to release the game anywhere but Japan. So yeah, they can suck it.
Time to get a visa!
Since this isn't affecting me directly, (as Tales of Graces never got here to begin with,) I'm excited for it. I do still like the Tales series, but almost in that bitter sort of way. It's like I know it's going to be the same thing, but I still want to see what differences they'll make. That's usually how I feel when they say they're releasing another Tales game.
I bet they won't pull a surprise port on this new PS3 title, though.
I wonder what would happen if Namco released a new Tales game and it failed to sell even a single copy because EVERYONE was waiting for the "non-beta" version?
Yeah, that'd be impossible, but it'd be hilarious wouldn't it?
If they tried some BS like making a new Tales game on the Gamecube and called it a "Gamecube Exclusive" then it would probably turn out that way. No one would believe that.
i guess im importing this just like Tales of Vesperia (ps3) =D
Again and again
Namco can gone bankrupt for all I care
Give them a break this time, they REALLY REALLY NEED the money.
Now this would be great if it comes to the U.S. Chances are it isn't though.
Darn you Namco. Who do you think we are? if you want beta testers, pay them a salary.
Get your "brand new" games and fit them wherever they fit...
Thaks for screwing the last decent RPG saga
*sigh*
Tales of Symphonia is one of my favorite games ever. It's sequel, Dawn of the New World, also falls into that category.
I'd hoped that maybe someday a Tales game might come along that I could see on an equal basis with those games, but with this bullshite Namco has pulled twice consecutively screwing with it's fans and producing less than quality games, maybe it's better that they stop the Tales series entirely. Because right now, even if they did make one that ended up better than ToS in my mind, I don't think I'd want to buy it from them - they don't deserve the money.
Makes me happy that Namco isn't making the Tales of Symphonia OVA series - it's doing so well right now, I'm sure that they'd find some way to grub into it idiotically - put it on UMD only, or release the episodes in 3 parts each and charge separately, or some dumbass move like that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as angry at Namco as every other fanboy over the shenanigans they're pulling...
But you're kidding yourself by implying that the 360 Tales of Vesperia is a "less than quality" game. Even without the PS3 additions, it's one of the best damn RPGs on the 360. Honestly, I think it's probably the best game in the Tales series.
Unfortunately, I can't afford a 360, and certainly not a PS3.
Nope, guess which system I have, if I'm playing ToS and ToS2. -_- Thanks for the screwjob Namco.
Atleast with 360 i can play it undub =D
As a 360 owner I refudiate namco the practice of releasing beta versions of the tales series on the 360 and the full version on the PS3 it's just not right.
Tales of Studio: "Oh hey, we're actually going to give you Wii folks a decent exclusive. Meet Tales of Graces!"
Wii Customer: Oh, I feel a little more confidence in my Wii now! Thanks, Namco, Kikuchi, and all of y'all! Now, can you just give me and other fans a translation? I can't wait for a license!
Tales of Studeo: Ha HA, no. We'll just port it to the PS3 instead. Of, and of course we'll never translate it and give an American license for y'all. Much less a European one. We just wanted to come in here and say your Wii release is basically trash. Kindly throw it away and pretend it never happened. Oh, and that release is for Japan Only, you have no business owning a copy.
Wii Customer: DOES YOUR TROLLING EVER END?!!
And of course, we in the US dont even get a chance to play the game, beta or not. Thanks, Bamco.
Please prove me wrong.
Tales of Vesperia PS3 isn't gonna be released here ebcause it was out on 360 and ports generate less sells, thus it wasn't worth it for them.
Tales of Graces Wii never came out on the Wii out of japan. The PS3 version killed any hope of a Wii localization. If one version were to be localized, the PS3 version would be the one and it would work since it's a game NA/EU never experienced, so sales would be ok.
Now, I imagine the Wii version never got localized because they knew the PS3 version was coming for a long time and might have wanted to localize that one instead.
"In addition a new PS3 Tales title has been announced, although details are completely lacking"
Based on previous evidence, I can only assume that roughly six months after its release, they will reveal it was a beta and release a full version for the Dreamcast or something.
But we didn't even get Vesperia on PS3 in the west! Get me that first, then we'll talk about Graces! Dammit Namco! Sometimes you really piss me off!
Filthy wii60 gaming peasants
glorious PS3 master race
Then why is the PS3 going to the crapper?
It isnt? It's sales are rising, it's already beaten 360, wii is doing well in sales but failing as a games machine. Every week wii only has 1 or 2 games in famitsu. it's pretty sad.
I take it from your ugly bald guy avatar you're some kind of xbot faggot though.
Someone's never played the Mother 3 fan translation.
RM3 is good news then theres high resulution SPINZAKU (if people still dont get this joke then i dont know what)?! ok... but none the less LAMBDA!!!!!!!
I really wanted that PS3 port of Vesperia. I'm a big fan and to withhold all that content because of some beef with Microsoft is childish. Huh, after all these years, I still get pissy about it.
I might've cared if we even got this in America. But we didn't. And we won't.
If the sales of the PS3 version as opposed to the 360 version are anything to go by, then Namco probably made a good decision considering how badly Graces did on the Wii.
The Tales studios died a long time ago, its final release was Tales of the Abyss and its subsequent anime. Now its just constantly rehashing old crap over and over, just to piss off the fanbase. In other news, where is my Tales of VS? You created an English website before and--ooooooh, never mind, you just trolled me, again, sneaky bastards.
maybe when fucking american 12 year olds stop buying CALL OF MONEY 2342343 and play high-quality games then namco can feel comfortable releasing games here
this is just not a good gen for JRPGs, deal with it.
Anybody knows the artist's (amamisiro) website? I couldn't find it...
Thanks in advance
Well, it doesn't surprise me, since it's namco we're talking about...
I have no complaints though, since I wanted to play this game and I don't own a nintendo wii
BTW, does anybody knows the this artist's website?