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The reaction of Sankaku Complex users to the scathing comments of 2ch on the recent closure of One Manga has found its way back to 2ch and incited an even more biting response.

Their response to the closure of One Manga and the impudent reaction of Sankaku Complex users angry at having to use more inconvenient sources of pirated manga filled scores of threads across 2ch, and was soon picked up by any number of 2ch-centric sites.

A representative selection of their comments is translated below:

“You lot are always begging ‘give us the zip! give us the zip!’ – why is it now you suddenly start acting like you’re normal?”

“Oh come on, this is a fantastic business chance for publishers. If they don’t go for commercial digital distribution now they really are finished.”

“In America the censorship regime makes them change cigarettes into candy! How many mangaka and publishers are there interested in making that level of change!?”

“I was reading the latest Naruto in the convenience store – are the foreigners jealous of me? Forgive me, Sasuke…”

“‘We want to buy but we can’t! We’re making manga popular the world over!’ Die.”

“Just buy it and read you dirty misers!”

“Do these people feel any sense of guilt over what they’re doing to creators?”

“Serves you right, foreigners! It makes no sense at all for these manga to be available on the net in English first. Stop enjoying them before us Japanese even get them!”

“You guys sound pretty intellectual translated into English, don’t you now?”

“‘Ha Ha Ha – Serves you right!’ – someone translate this and tell it to them.”

“Pirates really do think the same the world over.”

“Impudent thieves.”

“‘Foreigner 1: Do all Japanese hate foreigners? Or is it just a minority? Or just 2ch?
Foreigner 2: Japs hate us all. Even the babies!
Foreigner 3: 2ch is how the majority of Japs think. They are polite in front of others, but behind your back they are secretly insulting you. Japs are xenophobes!’

Pretty amazing that they go this far to dress themselves up as victims.”

“It seems people on the Internet always develop these persecution complexes – whatever the country.”

“‘Foreigner 4: 2ch is not representative of all Japanese! I like Japan.
Foreigner 5: Sorry. I like Japan too. The Japanese are just angry that we’re ripping them off.
Foreigner 6: 2ch is the scum of Japan.’

The guys who understand really do understand!”

“Foreigner 6 – you are a genius.”

“‘Those Jump buyers are complete tools for waiting – hurry up and give us the zip!’

‘I don’t want to buy Jump just for One Piece. I’m glad they get uploaded at the same time as its release. I can keep up with what’s happening in this thread too.’

‘In this damn heat I don’t want to go out and read Jump – hurry up with the zip!’

‘It may only be $2 but it’s a nuisance once you’ve read it. Why won’t they just sell us One Piece without the rest?’

This is from 2ch’s Shonen Jump board.”

“Maybe this thread will be translated and become an article over there? Are you reading foreigners? If you want to read manga, be sure to learn Japanese!”

“With the market for digital manga coming up, these illegal sites are no good any more. Rawpara made $30,000, how much were those guys making…”

“Read your own country’s comics, bastards.”

“It’s a real mystery to me why these damn foreigners can’t get over the fact that you can’t just be reading all this stuff for free on a website.”

“Manga overseas costs $10 a volume though – way too much.”

“But American comics cost a fortune in Japan too…”

“It really is expensive over there. In spite of the fact the paper is shoddy rubbish…”

“Even the guys reading manga are always going on about JAP this and JAP that. Just liking manga doesn’t mean you like Japanese, I see. Japanese are really despised aren’t they?”

“Foreigners are just greedy swine by nature – that’s why they think manga is free.”

“I looked at the responses of the Sankaku inhabitants (not that I’m lumping them together with all foreigners) – pretty amazing.

It’s expensive, 99% of manga is crap, it’s translated because Japanese are uploading it, because they ripped off western culture – their excuses were all on that level. The worst ones are the ones going on about racism or xenophobia though.”

“You hairy foreigners should shut up and wait for your own great mangaka.”

“Compared to Japan and its complete absence of a digital publication market, isn’t consciousness about this much higher over there? Amazon have Kindle and stuff…”

“There are already all kinds of pirated manga on the American Kindle. They’re a real pack of thieves.”

“If all manga fans the world over start thinking manga=free, the manga industry is finished.”

“Even in Japan a lot of young people think that, about games and music too. I hope they really crack down on these sites.”

“Why do these foreigners act so high and mighty when they are reading for free?”

“This reminds me of that damn Rapelay fiasco.”

“Thanks to that we got worked over. Seriously, die you filthy foreign scum.”

“1. Foreigners pirate our manga and develop a taste for it.

2. Foreign big-wigs say ‘This content is violent! Ban it, Japan!’

This is a real problem. If publishers adapt their publications to foreign markets then OK, but just translating the original and spreading it amongst foreigners is a problem!

Do you understand this you dirty foreign scum?”

“Don’t those white pigs comprehend the concept of a thief being ashamed of being caught?”

“Blaming the victims of your own crimes, shifting responsibility to anyone else but you, justifying your own criminality. Total scum, every last one of them.”


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    Comment by Anonymous
    03:49 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Japanese are only pissed because foreigners get more pussy than they do...

    Haha, I find it hilarious that everybody likes japanese babes but nobody gives a damn about japanese guys...

    ^_^

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:54 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Japanese babes dont even like Japanese guys, hence the declining birth rates/marriages. They are bored waiting for them to come out of their rooms, so they just hook up with the first foreigner they see. Theirs a reason why Japanese babes think its "cool" if you can bag a Foreigner.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:04 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are some japanese dudes I'd totally do. Although I prefer the babes.

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    Comment by Iowa
    04:21 29/07/2010 # ! Good (+0.4)

    Oh no, 2ch is calling us....things. What shall we do?

    Oh yeah, not give a crap. I've done it from the beginning

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:41 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    tl;dr wwwww

    brb, enjoying my scanlations.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:44 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Its not like they ever scanned Twilight Books and translated them in Japanese.. yea its only all us corrupt foreigners actually doing what humans do...

    One guy got it right. Who the hell are buying the Manga Raws and putting them online for people to Translate? Yea Japanese people.

    I dont even understand some of these complaints. Some say that we get Translated Manga even before they get Raw Manga (impossible). Some are angry about scans while some are angry that they are in english? wtf? Do they even know what issue they are angry about anymore? Not going to lump everyone but some of them on 2ch are obviously xenophobes. Hell, even Square Enix and other game companies went on the record saying they are catering more games to foreigners lately because of xenophobic Japanese. Obviously Japanese Fans were angry about it and called them Sell Outs, cause humans dont like to admit their flaws, these guys are just companies who want to make $ no matter where they can get it.

    Manga Sales are going down just the same way Book Sales are going down all over the World. Simply put, people are losing interest in Books. Todays World is much faster and their are quicker and easier ways of obtaining information. Books (like Manga) are a dying breed. Other Publishers/Authors attribute that to the times, while Japanese ones blame it on other people. Wee.

    If they can find some reasonable Pay to Read Digital Distribution Service that both sides can agree on, make that, and call it a day.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:03 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "Its not like they ever scanned Twilight Books..."

    Why would *anybody* ever want to do that!?

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    Comment by Doragon
    03:50 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    exept for "If they can find some reasonable Pay to Read Digital Distribution Service that both sides can agree on, make that, and call it a day."

    i wish you had read what i posted, would save you from losing time saying that.

    agreed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:03 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually it can happen. that is the netizens getting manga before an actual person in japan. the digital highway moves closer to the speed of light than any traditional form of transport.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:44 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Humans are idiots.
    We as a race have successfully made it so sharing art can hurt us.
    So that crossing a border that doesnt naturally exist hurts someone.

    Money=the biggest waste of our time we have ever invented.It makes all these things that would be simple into something twice as hard.

    thats what this story is.
    an example of how yet again there is no such thing as an intelligent being.

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    Comment by Offline
    00:54 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "Stop enjoying them before us Japanese even get them!”

    This guy lives somewhere in a different time dimension...
    How the hell would that be possible if pirated manga has to be first scanned from an original...oO

    Stupidity = Fail trolling :P

    Comment by Anonymous

    it actually happens cuz there is some places sell mangas(Shonen Jump/Sunday/Magazine etc) earlier than usual.
    it is very local tho here is the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous

    You're the idiot.

    Those Jump manga chapters you download and enjoy on Thursdays and Fridays are scanned from pre-release magazines. Jump is published on Mondays, but bookstores get the mags earlier so that they have some time to deal with them. The raw scans that hit the net come from these mags and scanlations are completed in a day or so, so yes, we do enjoy them before most Japanese get them.

    The true hypocrisy is that it's 2channers who scan and distribute the raws.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:38 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't think Japs nowadays know about World War II. Their History lessons are like their AVs. School kids in Japan probably think they won the war. Seriously, I looked it up.

    If you really don't want your comments to be posted in 2ch, talk about the war. They might learn a thing or two. Nanking? Bloody hell. Like perverts being given God mode. 2ch trolls are probably the grandsons/granddaughters from those "soldiers". I expect alot of things from Japan and tolerate them because I love the culture and language. But arrogance? W.T.F.

    Thieves? Better than rapist and murderers. The victims were unarmed civilians so add cowards, please. Raping, murdering cowards. Dear GOD, the ARROGANCE I read in those responses. And the HATE. I googled "did the Japanese apologized for Nanking" and a "why should we apologize" popped up.

    The worst part is, given the chance, I believe that they'll probably repeat incidents like Nanking and be damn proud of it (judging from those responses).

    I just want to add, I don't hate Japan, but I am amazed with how they feel about foreigners in the Net. Not just about manga but their games, too. Frankly, it ticks me off. The hatred and arrogance seems raw and genuine... and it's just sad.

    http://www.oppapers.com/essays/Rape-Nanking-Forgotten-Holocaust-World-War/144331

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:59 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It seems they think that no Japanese pirate manga/anime/games at all and it's all the fault of us damn foreigners.

    While I don't condone piracy (and my large paid manga/dvd/figure collection will attest to my support of the industry), sometimes it's the only way English speakers can get access to some titles (in particular ones that have been dumbed down and edited to reach mainstream America's level).

    So in the end, if there weren't Japanese providing the raws, there would be much less floating around in the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:44 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "You hairy foreigners should shut up and wait for your own great mangaka"

    really? not that they've seen a real one but do i need to comment on the bush's of jp women?

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    04:07 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why bother waiting, we already have those that can make stories, though not manga, but they are at least have better stories

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 18/08/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    IDK, but if the new Shonen Jump is out in JAPAN, scanned raws are available the next day for the entire internet.

    The scanning happens in Japan, me thinks... Such double standards c:

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    Comment by Dirty_Dingus008
    03:19 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Those cute littl' 2nuthings~ got all tiffy and sniffy and haughty be all about all them dirty rotten gaijins a' stealing their small littl' heritage~
    Reminds me of those annoying little shit guinea chickens I had back in thailand, screeching all out almost every day under my window.. but gratefully, I left that scum hole to better pastures with the final handing over of them to the locals. I stuck around for the prepping of dinner on them too~

    Metaphorically; I expect no difference for the trolling hoards of 2ch denizens. Be it becoming a no nothing fly on the wall OL or salary sorta man. Or better yet; some hikkokimori weed finally losing both parents to age and driven out of their caves by land/government/local sharks or Yakuza thugs and into the dank corners of the street still typing out on their ghost PCs...

    tick~ tock~

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:26 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    "1. Foreigners pirate our manga and develop a taste for it.

    2. Foreign big-wigs say ‘This content is violent! Ban it, Japan!'"

    Factually ignorant. All the calls to ban things have originated from within Japan. The rest of the world doesn't give a shit and just accepts that Japan is weird.

    Avatar of General Jack D. Ripper
    05:37 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's 2ch. They simply love to play the game "Blame the Gaijin!" for every thing happening in Japan

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:06 26/12/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Either "Blame the Gaijin" or "Blame the Koreans" for every single friggin' thing in Japan, really.

    Translate this, 2ch, and accept the truth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:54 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    correct

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:07 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Aww, someone lost world war two. :(

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    Comment by Nova
    03:57 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Lol, angry hikikomori.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:52 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    (BlackEpsilon)'

    Hairy foreigners? Our vagina comes shaved in America!

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And our balls too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:50 09/08/2014 # ! Neutral (0)

    And Futas

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:28 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Japanese otakus are so much creepier than foreigner otakus, its only natural they are scums.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:32 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    if reading non-licensed manga on the net for free is wrong, then I don't wanna be right...

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    Comment by Anonymous
    01:04 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I think it's funny that they talk about how racist we are and then call us "dirty foreign scum". |:

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:09 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    and in return people here call them japs and talk about nuking them.

    The cycle of racism and idiocy is complete.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:04 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It's pretty funny how butthurt a bunch of kids get over this stuff. Most anime and manga is laughably bad anyway.
    Which makes this entire thing even funnier.

    Also, someone tell them, if others are not allowed to read their books, then they should not be allowed to use other countries inventions.

    China invented paper and printing. The Japanese should print their manga on their own invention, stop stealing this off of the Chinese.
    Europe invented TV. The Japanese should stop using it to watch and show their anime, and should invent their own device for watching moving images.
    America invented the internet, and Britain invented the World Wide Web. Japan should get off the internet already, and stop ruining the place for us. Maybe they'll invent their own network infrastructure like the internet.

    Your move, Japan.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:22 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's called cultural invasion by globalist.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:19 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah you're right , Every Nation must help each other anyway . .

    Comment by Anonymous

    No you must suck obama's dick then lick Hu Jintao's ass.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:43 30/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    They are calling us "hairy foreigners"??? First start to shave your genital areas and then we talk again my dear japanese friends!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:17 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    It seems like a lot of 2ch users don't realize how the industry works over here. Even if we pay for manga that's been published in our market none of that money goes to the creator; it just goes to some douchebag executive at Tokyopop or Viz.

    Also, aren't most mangaka terribly underpaid by their publishers? 2ch should really be raging at the businessmen who force manga creators into shitty contracts.

    Please 2ch, do a little research before you post.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:24 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    This is because the licensing fee is an upfront payment to the creator's publisher, who pockets the money from overseas rights. It's true the creators themselves see not a penny, but that's more a result of the Japanese publishing/editorial structure.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    do u srsly think they offer rights for free?
    If Tokyopop buys rights of selling Manga japanese publisher gets money.
    simple fact.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:52 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    The licensing fee just goes to the Japanese publisher. None of the money goes to the actual mangaka.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:22 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    that money would support actual manga-ka since manga-ka is paid by a publisher and its the japanese industrial system.
    Also it wouldnt be a reason y u pirate manga.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:16 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    that money would support actual manga-ka since manga-ka is paid by publisher and its the japanese industrial system.
    Also it wouldnt be a reason y u pirate manga.

    Comment by Anonymous

    No. The mangaka are paid by their publishers looong before their work makes it way to the US. The licensing fee is nothing but icing on the cake for the publisher. The artist never sees a penny of that money.

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    Comment by dKiWi
    19:38 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    this is why i like manga but not japan

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:32 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    +1

    I agree

    lol japs

    besides, Adam Warren draw good manga. Pfft who needs japan?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:18 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    why so much racism? We are all humans why those guys act like if they live in the jap isolation period?

    guess the internet annonymity brings out the inner asshole to anyone those days.

    Comment by Pyrolight
    04:23 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (-0.2)

    "why so much racism? We are all humans why those guys act like if they live in the jap isolation period?

    guess the internet annonymity brings out the inner asshole to anyone those days."

    Good troll or doesn't realize "jap" is racist.

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    Comment by Doragon
    04:36 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    hmm...its true in ww2 "jap" was offensive, but nowadays i think of "jap" as a mere short for "japanese", i might be wrong as well as the Anonymous-04:18 guy tough.

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    "guess the internet annonymity brings out the inner asshole to anyone those days."

    agreed. Just look at all troll-like / hatefull comments on this very thread, you will see that 95%+ are from "Anonymous" guys! ''o.0

    Comment by Pyrolight
    04:57 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    “Even the guys reading manga are always going on about JAP this and JAP that. Just liking manga doesn’t mean you like Japanese, I see. Japanese are really despised aren’t they?”

    It still is.



































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