The US subsidiary of top Japanese bookstore Kinokuniya has stopped all sales of popular anime pin-up magazines, saying it thinks the innocent pictures of anime girls they are famous for may contain “illegal and inappropriate content” – or in other words, that it thinks they might be considered child porn in the US.
The store has cancelled the subscriptions of all customers subscribed to the magazines, which includes fan favourites Megami and Nyan-Type.
Earlier this month subscribers of Megami Magazine through Kinokuniya Bookstores of America received this rather distressing letter from the popular Japanese book retailer:
July 7th, 2010
(subscriber name/address redacted)
Dear Subscriber,
Thank you very much for using the Kinokuniya magazine subscription services.
We are writing this letter to inform you that we no longer handle subscriptions to Megami magazine since it has recently come to our attention that the magazine may contain inappropriate contents which may not comply with applicable local, state, and/or federal regulations.
It is our policy to take a cautious approach in conducting our business in full compliance with any applicable local, state, and/or federal regulations. In keeping with this policy, we will cancel your subscription to this publication.
Please accept the enclosed refund check for the portion of the subscription remaining.
Thanks again for your continuous patronage to our business.
Should you have any questions or concern regarding this matter, please contact me below.
Sincerely,
(name redacted)
Kinokuniya Bookstores of America Co., LTD.
A follow-up call to the store revealed that five moe-style magazines were currently affected by the ban: Megami, Megami Deluxe, Nyan Type, Dengeki Hime, and Dengeki Moeoh.
None of these titles carry explicit nudity or sexual content – only doe-eyed anime maidens in great profusion.
The store contact avoided giving any precise reasons or specific content which led to the sudden ban, and was quick to offer reassurances that magazines already previously sold by their store and available for subscription over the last decade were not ever “illegal” in any respect.
When it was pointed out that other anime and manga sellers in the US still offer these magazines for sale or subscription, the contact apologized and explained that this was a “precautionary measure… due to certain recent events and changes” – a possible allusion to the Handley case.
A search of the web reveals that non-subscribing direct buyers will also find that the store no longer carried their monthly dose of moe pin-up goodness on their shelves.
Whether US Customs was an issue or not was not clarified (although other retailers have long shipped them without issue), but the contact admitted there had been customer complaints regarding the content of the magazines.
Meanwhile, Megami, Nyan-Type and other anime pin-up magazine subscriptions still remain available through less spineless retailers, both in the US and beyond.
Anime fans opposed to rampant censorship with no basis in law are advised not to support so craven a company as Kinokuniya in future.
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AHA!, Laws you never know when they are going to be applied, they never exist and then, they appear.
Laws are moot. There will always be ways around them.
ie: You can get questionable doujinshi at the dealers' tables at your local anime convention.
How they manage to import such items is beyond me. (But I'm not complaining).
yes, you can get those things at dealers tables, that's the problem, now you can't import something that has a drawed lady in a maid outfit, so, you shouldn't be able to import porn as well (It hurts to think about it).
ie: Those ways around them can be used on your benefit as well.
@dante0397
I think you missed my point. When I said "questionable doujinshi", I meant doujinshi that are ALREADY illegal in North America (ie. loli doujinshi).
So my point being, if illegal doujishi are already being imported and made available at local anime conventions, then it doesn't matter what else they deem "illegal".
As long as the end-user gets their product, nothing else matters.
The problem is that they are illegal and legal at the same time. 1 law says no children drawn or not, another says it's alright if they are drawn. US can be retarded most of the time.
Disappointing, kinda cowardly I think. Sure, they're at risk by selling it but why not contact Neil Gaiman and his CBLDF and prepare a defense ahead of time? That way, you get a revolutionary victory at no expense and it attracts loads of attention for your store.
Megami Magazine is pure gold! What a bunch of spineless bastards...
We need a spiky haired blue suited pointing finger lawyer to restore order! This is madness!
Another reason why US sucks!
Another reason why you should live somewhere else in Asia (except Korea)
lol I ordered 3 posters from our copy shop of kodomo no jikan and black rock shooter. They are all DFC.
Holy...crap...
Megami-magazine is as squeaky clean as a pin-up magazine can EVER get, East or West.
*sigh* I guess the paranoid-pedo wagon strikes again. I wish people stop being so quick to jump on.
Also: Who the fuck would complain about Megami of all things...?
Femnazis? Fags? Femnazi fags? Oh, and manginas.
Trust me, fags have no problems with anime pinup girls.
This particular fag is as confused (and annoyed) about this random censorship as anyone else.
People who complain about them is most likely the "Naive Adults"
Fag here i like megami i think it's cute.
I think Fag is a pretty cool guy, he likes megami and doesn't afraid of anything.
Fuck American conservatives.
It's the liberals that are in control now, and it makes you wonder why sales in americans suck.
I dare you to say that after November if all the cons get in the house.
Nothing will change.
Yep. "Liberals" and "conservatives" in America are all the same, at least on this sort of issue. If you asked the most right-wing and the most leftist members of Congress about this issue, I doubt you'd see any substantive disagreement between them. This isn't a liberal vs. conservative issue, it's a public perception issue. The public perceives stuff like this to be child porn (mostly because the media, who make their living on scandals, tell them it is), so even if it doesn't meet the legal standard (which it doesn't, and I guarantee that Kinokuniya's lawyers KNOW it doesn't), the retailer would rather avoid the bad PR that would follow if a media outlet caught wind of what they were selling.
This isn't about fear of being sued, any more than the decision to cancel publication of Kodomo no Jikan in the U.S. was about that: this is about not getting bad press. KnJ is perfectly legal, and so are Megami and Nyan-Type, but the problem lies in that a single media accusation of selling "child porn" would inevitably lead to a massive boycott. As such, the income from selling these things isn't worth the risk - it's simple economics.
Damn, this guy above me deserves an internet for that post. Well said, my good man!
Actually I think the true difference on this issue between cons and libs is that feminist libs may be partly to blame, but the conservative outlook could care less about the subjectification of women issue. They tend to side more with fighting pornography and abuse of children conservatives are always fearmongering about.
united states of america: the country of liberty and freedom
Liberty and freedom indeed...
*scoffs*
Fuck...it's better than being in China, or one of those middle eastern countries..
Just so you know, in Singapore we ban all sorts of crap including bubble gum. But we can buy Megami, Newtype, and even the naughtier ecchi ones long as we show proof of age.
US needs to work harder.
yeah, the more laws both sides pass.. the worse its going to get.. but in reality.. where does one go from here? Europe? hell no, Australia.. hell no, new zealand.. Maybe... Japan love to visit.. but no... as a saying goes, if America fails.. where do we go for freedom then??
The country of liberty and freedom (Mostly applied to the White people)
The worst form of censorship is self-censorship.
Yeah, f*** those guys!
anime its tunring more and more in child porn instead of great stories, i pity the new mangakas.
I hate how they wont give you a straight answer, rather frustrating.
Their position: "We've definitely not done anything illegal but we think we might have."
Oh, which one is it then? :D
i think it's more of a
"we're afraid to be sued, even if we haven't done anything wrong..."
cause any case that has child porn in it is almost always a loss either true or not
You'd think they'd do some research before asuming their stuff "might" have child porn. They certainly don't seem to have any backbone....
Having ideals or "a backbone" is irrelevant for a company, BlaqCat. The potential loss outweights the potential gain, because the risk is too high, just as Anon said.
They are afraid to be sued? All the subscribers should sue them, for breach of a contract.
@Schrobby: with you there, man. meanwhile i'm worried that Kinokuniya Singapore might have shared thoughts...
"well, thats fine.... i'll just get it elsewhere."
so they get in for the money and run out from the sueing madness, truly spineless
That's ridiculously stupid, i feel really bad for the people having subscriptions there...
Good thing i'm receiving my Megami directly from Japan :)
But they still carry manga like Yubisaki Milk Tea, Berserk, and Ikki Tousen, right?
If they still do, a few complaints should see them forced to stop.
Don't they measure x against y though? I mean, if I'm in business and recieve 20 complaints vs like 150 subscriptions, I'll definitely stick with the 150, and give a "you don't -have- to read what you don't like" response to the 20.
Complaints are powerful - way more powerful than people think.
If you don't react, the person who complained to you will perhaps complain to your boss or someone higher up, and if that happens, you will most likely have your ass kicked. Nothing to ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER about.
I know that people who are complaining all the time are annoying as hell, but sometimes, it's actually a very powerful tool to get what you want.
That excludes complaining on the internets, like the thing we do here on SanCom. It's necessary and justified and I do it too, but still, it's mostly circle-jerking. If you want to actually change something, you need to write to the publisher.
It's the US... you can sue anything for anything with anything. That's why even 20 complaints may lead to 20 law-suits... hurray for the nation of freedom!
really need to stop these frivolous lawsuits.. they should have 1 judge that looks at all lawsuits, something like night court (tv, old old tv) where they do back to back cases. and if the suit is deemed it frivolous, all court costs should be payed by the complainer including lawyer cost of the other party...
that should stop an number of these stupid things to acctual complaints...
all these moral fags just just shut up, and not read the things that offend them... if its a tv show.. change the damn chanel.. magazine.. don't read it etc etc, and leave them to the people that enjoy them!!
I used to work as a bellboy for a condo building, and believe me people complained ALL the time about shit, but if it was a complaint about protocol, we kindly directed them to our boss. Then the boss approaches us about the complaint, we explain WHY changing protocol would be a negative (positives outweighed by negs), and the complaint would be voided unless a large majority (of residents) agreed with the complaint. The opposite was also true.
This is the way Kinokuniya should have done things as it's what worked best, and pisses less people off (generally).
Just one complain form some certain person will be more than enough, as for the rest wherever they are like it or not isn't much important.
They still carry Kodomo no Jiakn as far as i know too.
Not much longer, I guess...
Noooo, they can't ban that as well D:
I take the bus to Kinokuniya quite often; it'll be terrible if they start banning manga due to paranoia. Hopefully Book-Off won't follow in their steps. (last time I checked they were carrying series such as Chocotto Sister, quite ecchi loli stuff)
This is pretty ironic considering the Kinokuniya in Australia still stocks these magazines.... or at least, the last time I checked they did. I don't buy these magazines (the marked up prices are too much for a poor student who blows all her money on figures) but I'll be pretty pissed if they follow suit.
Singapore's Kinokuniya still carries them too. I swear its just the USA with its loliphobia that'll get ths shit.
Somebody really should include lolicon here. It's the witch-hunts all over again...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic
The irony is that Australia is pretty loliphobic, that's why I pointed it out. I mean Australia, where a guy can get fined for having Simpsons porn on his HD (admittedly this guy had actually had real child porn in the past, which may have something to do with it), where politicians in a fit of moral panic plan an internet filter...still carries these magazines in Kinokuniya, whereas ~the land of the free~ does not.
So they felt guilty in selling something that is fictional women?
So I'm not the only saying wtf do they mean then.
HERE IS THE TRUTH
the content in said magazines was not worth the risk/profit they make through it.
obscenity fines are easy to give and can range from 10000-250000$
most normal people will agree that depictions of someone under 17 for erotic purposes is wrong, and thats all law would see, they wouldn't see they are drawn because current laws state that underage drawings ARE STILL CHILE PORN without there ever being a real child. now, would you want to risk loosing your business because of these magazines which probably don't offer much monthly profit, or do you want just dump them and completely dodge the bullet?
and i should state for the record any laws of drawing having the same rights as real people are uncontested and are not worth the paper they are printed on, but if you lose the law will probably stick forever unless something that is so batshit insane that no one would believe it possible.
I want me some of that Chile pron, soooo hooot.
I don't contest that this is the legal advice they received, or complied with.
But the notion that normal people aren't aroused at teenagers is simply absurd... you know the number of nations with age of consent in the lower teens? It's... not a small number. A more anecdotal point is how reliably attended high school girl sporting events are... even when both teams are terrible. I don't wanna point fingers, but(t)...
I think the argument you're after is the morality of viewing a teen erotically, but that'd keep us here all day. Anime girls, though they start crying at the drop of a hat, aren't going to be harmed by being ogled.
Is CHILE PORN, like, girls in Pinochet masks? If so, I have a new fetish. Namely, girls without them.
What?
Is porn from chile illegal?
It cant be that bad?
Can it?
The last law that was passed making drawings into child porn got thrown out (along with previous ones) for being unconstitutional. That means there is precedence that lolicon is legal in the US.
The federal laws, Anonymous. Those were thrown out. These bullshit obscenity laws have never been thrown out because the police only use them against milquetoast people who are not going to challenge the laws in court to have a judgment of unconstitutionality made against them.
The police SPECIFICALLY plea-bargain all cases where obscenity is an issue, because they know that ONE case against a person with balls of TITANIUM like myself..... THROW OUT FOREVER!
yea i misses chile, bad spelling on my part.
Tex_Arcana
19:30
we have all seen them, genetic anomaly that can make a 10 year old look 16, and we want her. we have seen that one asian girl who looks over 18 for an asian but was only 12, and we have states that have 16 and 17 as age of consent
16 - 29
17 - 8
18 - 13
but i dare you to go outside and let people know that you are attracted to people under the age of 18, all men are, or at least most, are attracted to girls when they hit there period and up.
when they hit there period and up they can have a kid
but we are disgusting for wanting to touch anyone under 18, and even where age of consent is 16, i fucking dare you to troll schools for girls 16 and up ow where ever the fuck 16 year old girls can hang out.
and age of consent in america is in 2 sections
federal law, which is 18, this is where you would be tried if its a business and cp is found
is it worth going to court and defending yourself that these are not cp under laws where its an up hill battle? they aren't, but you are looking at legal fees of at least 30000$ to defend, possibly more, and you aren't able to counter sue for money back. lets say worst case scenario, it costs 100000 in legal fees, how long do you think it would take them to make that back on what they dropped alone?
this was less of a legal advice as a look at how much profit we make on that monthly, vs what it could cost us.
Anonymous
20:42
yea, several have, however the new one i believe, protect act has it in again. and because its in and uncontested, its still a law you need to worry about when it comes up in court. its why hadly went to jail instead of going to court.
Anonymous
11:45
obscenity laws still exist, its just ones like dildos being illegal, and things that you find in a normal sex shop. there are cases every year where places are fined because a porno was to hard core. and i hate to mention it, but bestiality is illegal, video wise, under obscenity laws, and so is females getting nailed by animals, however male on animal is animal cruelty.
As I said, I complete agree that they acted in accordance with social expectations and with the full intention of profit maximization.
Which still makes them spineless sycophants in my view, but that's largely irrelevant.
I guess I confused your use of 'normal' for a statement on what people should feel, rather than what it's prudent to admit feeling. My mistake.
i see.
and one more point, i cant say they are spineless.
you do realize that spreading cp could get you in federal prison for... i forget how long, but regardless you wont live till the end for the sentence.
no one should ever have to defend something as not being child porn ever.
unless you are backed into a corner, where its a do or die situation, you never want to contest that law.
i wont say i like what they did, but i do agree with why they did it.
@alidan, u should try to read the law first, before making stupid comment (stupid long comment). There is no nudity or erotic scene in the manga they're talking about.
know the law better.
in the case of cp, a picture that is erotic in nature, is still considered cp, unless it is classified as art.
and trust me, you never want to have to go to jury with a picture like that and try to prove art, especially with an drawing that most normals wouldn't consider art.
think of it in these terms, a woman in a bikini, with biog boobs, in a magazine like maxium. do you consider that artistic, or do you consider that borderline softcore porn.
If they feel that guilty, might as well extend that ban to other pornographic materials while they're on the roll.
Oh wait... I forgot. You guys depend on that industry, don't you, America? >_>
*sarcastic mode off*
The prude anti-sex pseudo moralist country USA is the biggest porn producer of the world. Hypocrites, aren't they?
I thought japan was the largest porn producer in the world, isn't it? :D
and here I thought it was Germany.
German porn? Never came across those (no pun intended)
@Alucard
With America taking up half of this multi-billion dollar industry, Japan seems less like sexual-fanatics than most people think they are...
@ Yoshi-kun 18:23 :
I read somewhere that hard-copy porn-mags 'Playboy' and 'Hustler' were losing money, due to the recession and available digital porn.
Maybe the porn-mag publishers hired some lobbyists to combat what they see as "competition", while doing so under the banner of "Save our children!"
Live in the US, they say.
Land of the free, they say.
Land of the unfree, they are.
Come to America, why don't you have a seat, Cris Hanson said!
Sadly, I am having to agree with this more and more.
Our laws would be better if they stuck to the big 4:
1. Do not kill someone unless they are trying to kill you/someone else and it is your last choice to stop that attack.
2. Do not physically injure someone else unless it is your last choice to stop an attack from them or that person agrees to the activity that might physically injure them.
3. Do not steal from someone unless it is your last choice between you and death.
4. Do not force someone to do or not do (replace do with view, write, etc.) something that they wish to not do or do unless they are causing physical harm to someone else without their permission (whether the thing in question is sexual or not, regardless of age or lack of it in the person in question) or damaging property not their own.
If we would stick to those 4 morals, which are the ONLY true morals? Things would be much better in the world today.
home of the brave, too. hats off to the doujinshi importers.
More like...Land of the "I'll sue your ass!!!"
U.S. stands for United Sues...
lolusa
This is hilarious to me because I subscribe to champion red, which is also handled by kinokuniya, and that has way more porn than all of those magazines combined.
But it is an "all age" manga magazine, despite the questionable contents lol
So revenge of the 3-D women starts with the removal of the 2-D perfections. The only reason to buy those in the first place was for the posters. So this is why I never got my hug pillow and the order was never completed with the other company probably on the last Megami Deluxe issue I ordered.
This has nothing to do with 3D women, just retarded moral panic.
I'm a 3D woman and hell I think these magazines are awesome. I've got my share of waifus, I just have husbandos as well.
I'm also a 3d woman and i see nothing wrong with DFCs
But I'm a bit wary of lolicons. No reason to stop selling Megami, just put an R## sticker and problem solved?
Yeah well... You guys sold Dakimakura last time
That's quite funny, considering I live in Canada (which, last time I checked, lolicon is just straight out illegal), and I can pick up a copy of Megami whenever I feel like.
Only because no one has challenged your laws. Seriously, there has been NO challenges of those laws because? There have been no prosecutions of anyone except the most milquetoast of the milquetoast, who fold like wet tissue paper every single time.
americans should expect that their hyphocrisy brings to such absurdities.
Please, where narrow it to America? Name me one palce thsi kind of hypocrisy isn't happening. I'm sure you can serch and find one, but that says something in itself.
Japan! They tried this bullcrap, but after the Japanese people roared at their politicians, the idea was dropped.
The problem here are those motherfucker christians and conservative republicans.
You forgot the femnazi democrats.
Take your weapons and get rid of the trash, american otaku. Fight for your freedom.
The problem is most of us are too fat and happy in our own little worlds to give enough of a shit, sadly.
And nowadays, taking out weapons to 'fight the power' is equated with terrorism. You have a point of view opposite to what those in office do? You're unpatriotic.
man, i feel bad for the fans in US there. The law has gone uncontrollable!!!
No, the law has nothing to do with this. There IS no law. It's not illegal.
true what freedom we have
You have the freedom to get rid of your oppressors. Land of the free, eh?
Where the heck do you find this things !!! Do you have detectives search for this ?
Funny how manga is now child porn and a crime next we know we are going to have rules to protect GTA4 citizen who suffer at the hands of virtual criminals.
Shhh, don't give the politicians any more ideas.
I suggest "Boycott", or the threat of it.
Write a polite letter saying- (and I mean even if you didn't get this one, just used or considered using their service)
---"I support Free Speech, not convenient speech. Thought Crime is NOT crime. As long as we are ordering no RL pics that maybe might be children, there should be no issue. The importance to free speech trumps other concerns. You either supply people with this stuff and have a lawyer ready to fight for free speech, or we consider simply not buying from you, period. In this recession it's a sacrifice to buy anything, why not just download it if you help the American dream be stolen from us a piece at a time?"
---"Right now we are at a dangerous crossroads to Free Speech. Yeah, the Fed Pigs have busted a few people for Hentai, but they've tied it to technicality cases and coerced plea bargains. Stand for free speech, get lawyers, get donations for the defense in advance. They can coerce someone who doesn't know their rights into pleading guilty, but they'll run from a well prepared legal defense. Counter-precedents are vital right now. If you care about free speech, we'll support you and this means donations beyond sales if there is a legal issue, if not might as well download and not buy anything from you."
Boycott?
You cant stop buying something they're not selling.
You know that "boycott" means not buying anything from them at all, don't you?
That said, non-otaku won't care, and as a Japanese bookstore, anime/manga related sales were probably just a nice extra to them and they don't really depend on it, so...
I wouldn't bet on that. Otaku not only buy anime related stuff.
They will feel a sales drop of 5%. 10% will hurt badly.
Hmm. You might have a point.
But I never bought something from them since they don't operate in my country, so I guess I can't help the cause ;_;
Looks like ICE (Immigration Customs Enforcement) is really stepping up inspections of foreign packages. I guess having a Japanese address on the package is a dead giveaway for customs inspectors.
You'll never see a man arrested, ridiculed, bullied, or exiled for extreme, explicit, obscene, vile, or depraved fictional content involving violence, even if it involves a child.
You'll never see a government, store, ratings board, or organization condemn, ban, or boycott fictional content involving such violent content either.
Of course, it's free speech, and people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
However, as soon as it comes to suggestive content, nudity, sexual content, and anything resembling a child, something in their brain shuts down. Logic, reason, and critical thinking go offline.
You simply aren't allowed to take a side. You are either a baby fucker, or must promote a modern day Auschwitz for the pedophiles that are lurking everywhere in everyone, just waiting to strike at your children.
We are all aware of the media blitz, the fear factor, and the brain washing concerning the modern day boogieman of pedophilia. It's seeped deep into society to the point it threatens our freedom in the form of censorship, draconian laws, and prosecution of innocent individuals.
Media simply does not cause a person to commit a crime. To say such, is a cynical view of humanity; that all it takes is a thought, and an individual is unable to control themselves from acting on their desires.
How terrifying is it that we believe a person that can tell the difference between a fictional drawing and a real child is a danger to society, but one that can not, is a model citizen, or is someone in charge of passing laws. Which one of those is the real cancer of society?
We have a major problem on our hands. No one dares educate people on the double standards, less they be branded as pedophiles. And thus, the cycle of ignorance continues. We are nearing a critical time where we stand up, or lose everything. Certain organizations, governments, and corporations are increasingly using the trump card of pedophilia. The cancer is spreading from puritans, to government, to common folk.
It's a specific lack of sophistication most people never outgrow.
We want to guy who strokes it to kids to be a monster, a ticking time bomb that the community can band together and disarm.
But what if he's a churchgoing veteran? What if he has kids of his own, cares about them and dreads them ever finding out? What if he's a complete nonentity, and his evil master plan involves buying some socks and watching Hannah Montana? What if he, himself, still a preteen is his own mind?
humanity refuses to see the good in the evil, but just as galling is the blindness to the evil in the good. Some of us learn about factory farms and sweatshops, and start a boycott, never realizing that them's the breaks of being a part of a developed nation. Think most cambodian kids would turn down a new pair of nikes? a cruelty plus hamburger?
At least the guy with the CP knows who's suffering for his amusement.
You are also assuming that there is something 'evil' about pedosexuality. There is not, and there is nothing 'evil' about even sleeping with children, speaking as an adult who slept with and had sex with adults as a child.
Pedosexuals are the new 'boogie man' for society now that heterosexuals outside of marriage and homosexuals are not allowed to be bashed upon.
Would someone please think of the fully clothed virtual children?
Eh, I could give it a whirl.
...What are they fully clothed in?
seifuku. dresses. yukata. things that little japanese kids wear. in short, cute things.
Feels good, man.
Well, ya got me.... I'm actually thinking of the fully-clothed fictional children. My thoughts are just.... not.... all that clean or pure.
First "one manga"(scanlations)...
now even magazines on paper...
next thing you know even manga volumes will disappear... when will it end?!?!? T_T
It is the end. The beginning of the end.
You know what they say about shit like this: "I didn't stop them earlier because it had nothing to do with me. Then they came to me, and there's no one left to stop them".
I BLAME THE JEWS! THE JEWS!!!
The end, and Japan is heaven. Visa, anyone?
Only the US kinokuniya stopped the sales right?This doesn't apply to the other kinokuniya around the world right?Outside of US they didn't stop the sales right?
Every global plague started somewhere, then spread.
Australia still has them as far as I know and someone else said Singapore. And of course, the Kinokuniyas in Japan.
I heard there are two Kinokuniyas (or more?) in the US, though. Is this magazine drop in both or just one? That's what I'm curious about.
Australia still has them as far as I know and someone else said Singapore.Oh so these countries still has them?
This actually started at the NYC store about a month or so after the other local "new" Japanese bookstore closed (which also sold those magazines). At first we were told that those magazines were no longer going to be put on the shelves and that if we wanted them we would have to subscribe to them.
ah screw it
wake me up when the feminazis and political idiots stop being total shitheads
goodnight
I hope you don't have plans to ever wake up then.
Wake me up when the real feminists stop acting like worthless do-nothing slugs and start doing something productive to counter the said feminazi idiots.
Since most of you are completely ignorant of the law:
"Federal law prohibits the distribution of obscenity through the facilities of interstate or foreign commerce. More specifically, it is a crime to use the mail to send or receive obscene materials, to import obscenity, to ship or receive obscenity by a common carrier, or to transport obscene materials across state lines for sale or distribution, including by computer. See 18 U.S.C. sections 1461, 1462, and 1465. It is also illegal to broadcast obscene materials, or engage in the business of selling obscene materials that have traveled through interstate or foreign commerce. See 18 U.S.C. sections 1464, 1466. "
and
"There are also federal laws making it a serious crime to distribute obscenity toward minors. Federal law prohibits a person from using the mail, or any of the means of interstate commerce, including a computer, to knowingly transfer obscene materials to someone the person knows is under 16 years of age. See 18 U.S.C. section 1470. For example, it would be a crime to knowingly email an obscene picture to a 15 year-old."
and
"The U.S. Supreme Court established the test that judges and juries use to determine whether material is obscene. The test was developed in three major cases: Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 24-25 (1973); Smith v. United States, 431 U.S. 291, 300-02, 309 (1977); and Pope v. Illinois, 481 U.S. 497, 500-01 (1987). The resulting three-pronged test to adjudicate obscenity is as follows:
Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., an erotic, lascivious, abnormal, unhealthy, degrading, shameful, or morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion); and
Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, would find that the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct (i.e., ultimate sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated, masturbation, excretory functions, lewd exhibition of the genitals, or sado-masochistic sexual abuse); and
Whether a reasonable person would find that the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."
Federal Obscenity Law is determined by local community, not national, standards as established by Miller v California.
OK Now how old are the girls in those magazines? Huh what was that they aren't real? They don't have an age? You mean to tell me this picture was dawn less than a year ago? Huh so by looking at a picture of a drawn wrinkled woman that was drawn less than 18 years ago its child porn right because that's the only real way to determine the age of a drawing. The law is and always will be bull shit on this. Its like Australia if a girl has a DFC shes going to be a minor for the rest of her life. I hate America and all its moralists and good doers that only ruin the great country we once had.
OK I'm done with my rage carry on.
And those obscenity laws would be overturned today for being WAAAAAAAY too broad and vague. The fact is that the Constitution does NOT say that something that is 'obscene' (which is in the eye of the beholder, and I say if you don't like something, don't look!) can be banned.
The First Amendment is ABSOLUTELY, and artwork is part of the First Amendment, it is SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED!
It doesn't matter if a piece of artwork is pornographic, has children in it or NOT! Anything DRAWN or NOT A PHOTO is not allowed to be banned.
Actually, if the First Amendment was STRICTLY adhered to? Child pornography (the real, photographic shit) wouldn't be allowed to be banned or made illegal either, except where a child can be proven to have been physically forced into making it.
What the shit.
this type of article keeps boiling my blood.
WHY THE HELL ARE MORALFAGS ATTACKING ANIME or "child porn cartoons" (as they see it)?
There as other REALLY BIG ISSUES TO TACKLE such as domestic violence and real SICK PORN to CRUSADE on...
If they are really damn serious about their world peace and shit they should just shoot themselves since the real world is just like this. short-sighted bigots.
I feel sad feel the company. Clearly they are worried about the 'sue' obsessed nature of the US and the fact the US sees sex in a puritanical light.
This might just be a blip on the radar, and it might also just be the beginning.
Some times it takes a bit to get the ball rolling on repercussions.
Personally I find yanking the mags to be entirely unexplainable, as there are numerous better targets if they are truly worried about the attitudes of imagery that is commonplace with anime and manga. Especially anime and manga that is about as far as it gets from even remotely 'questionable'.
Still, I see it all the time. The 'hysterical' in society think ALL anime and manga is sick. They simply ain't even interested in making any distinction.
They are afraid to be sued, so they break contracts. Quite counter productive if all subscribers would sue them now.
they SHOULD sue. (well, they'd better pick relatively clean megami as evidence. the one i bought recently had a few bath scenes...)
i think, what make them worried is a fact, that some feminazis (or their comrade) lurking out there're ready to sue them anytime to satisfy the domination
In my case, my copy of Dengeki G Festival from Kinokuniya (Malaysia) got several pages "detained" by our customs (by detained, they ripped out some of the pages). This not only limited to anime pin-up magazine, even hobby magazine like Dengeki Hobby or Hobby Japan also was not spared. And this only happened to copy bought from Kinokuniya; parallel import from Amazon Japan either pass the customs unscathed, or the whole thing will be detained.
There were several occasions where entire tankobons I ordered got held up by the customs too. Good thing I had contacts in Singapore to get it from the Kinokuniya there instead.
Sue them for destruction of property.
Well if they counter-sue me, or kinokuniya for bringing illegal content to our country (yes, any pornographic material is banned in Malaysia, and our definition of pornography can include even scantily clad pictures), then for sure they will win.
i pity you malaysians.. and to think that we in the philippines are supposed to be catholic and above things like that.
*clutches megami protectively*
We are catholic. But i believe it is a lot more lax and people friendly here. I havent seen draconic / ultra zealot christians so far.
some Laws are just Lawls :D
Boycott Kinokuniya at Otakon this week!
We don't need spineless companies who won't stick up for their Otaku.
Good thinking. Someone should go to their booth with protest banners to inform and shoo away all customers.
Do that with every such booth everywhere. Complain to the organizers of all cons and tell them you don't want to see that company there and why.
The only way to get Kinokuniya and others like them is to cut their margin.
This is just another example where people go after something they have no information about.
Thx god almost everything I buy is from Malaysia when it comes to anime. And Im in Taiwan for good. However, I do feel that this is getting out of hand. To think that people are treating these fictional characters like they are real (that they exist when they clearly dont) is just beyond retarded and kinda sad. Even more sad when people are going after anime when they have no clue what it really is, but the fact that the fictional characters are remotly pornographic appears more offensive than regular porn is just beyond comprehension to people that are affected and no what things are.
Although, I have to admit, some of the more recent things that came out are kinda questionable when it comes to how legal things are Ex: KissXsis.
Ranma1/2 is nothing but porn!
Complete with breast groping!
n needless to say, Ranma is underage thruout the early series.....
if i'm not mistaken the age of consent is lower in japan, therefore in japan someone ranma's age would be legal..?
Does it fucking matter? He is drawn and he is boy. Nobody cares. Oh, Americans care!
Sucks to be American. :P
No wonder manga sales are bad.
And Megami here (although months old) costs P1,600!
i agree, but if you order at the right places it gets cheaper. newtype should never go above P1000 for instance
"[...], Dengeki Hime, [...]
None of these titles carry explicit nudity or sexual content – only doe-eyed anime maidens in great profusion."
What
it means they have clothes on, however little their pants are, and the important bits are covered...
..oh never mind...
Yeah Dengeki Hime is porn no question about that. As much as I love it it is probably the most dangerous of these.
just another case of business owners protecting their ass just in case a future lawsuit is dropped on them.
a cowards way out indeed, although not surprising for the US.
there are many other places to get your fill of pin-up mag, so as far as I am concerned, fuck'em.
This is a whole new level of sad, see why we can't have nice things, just goes to show how far moral panic has become and the stupid pedo-hunters are trying to destroy anything that would encage or randomly activate pedophiles. This shit is getting out of hand, if drawings now have rights, whats next ? someone gets arrested for mass murder in GTA ? They pull porn because it could lead to all out public orgies ? I think the worse thing to happen to anime is companies and politicians finding out about it, atleast the days when it didn't "exist" to them, this shit wasn't going on.
This reminds me of that scenario in modern warfare 2 where you (as terrorists) Slaughter an airport full of civilians.
wow i never heard of them and then i googled and realized they had a store in Australia, now im pissed cuz i would love to have one of those magazines >_<
You could always try to order off Amazon in Japan.
Lots of escrow companies that can buy on your behalf since lots of those sites only ship to Japanese addresses.
The first Megami Magazine I bought (blessed day), I bought because I thought the depictions were very, very nice. But I have to be honest that the next one I bought had one of those (very young looking) girls from Strike Witches sitting on a broom stick with her crotch and camel-toe exposed in a large drawing. I thought I was going to jail if this was ever found out by anyone. Later I got depressed because of this content, thinking that people would judge me as a paedophile. The same was when I first visited Sancom, I was disgusted thinking this was a porn site.
It goes without saying that over the years I learned many things, not being shallow and not letting people push their morals onto me for instance.
Going back to this article, I can guarantee you that the average Joe WOULD think that Megami is for paedophiles just as I thought back then. Kinokuniya probably recognized this moral hysteria (only now) and acted on it. But by banning cartoon depictions (no matter how ''risky'' they are) is very stupid and shallow to do. They are not better than the young and shallow boy I was back when I bought my first copy.
For the record, it’s not like I have an indefinite love for loli or collect lolicon manga etc and I do think it’s silly or quasi weird when people like a drawing of a grown man fucking an 8-year old girl. It’s just that I learned that it’s stupid to judge people based on drawings alone, let alone sending them to jail. If you like that shit, fine…just keep it to your self offline.
And I also hereby boycott Kinokuniya.
By the way, it's awful news. USA companies siding with lolis is pedophile content group is very dangerous for us. It could mean that many lobbies have become powerful enough to pressure them, if they were able to do that the governement is their next target.
I am sure many police groups internationnaly have already taken our IPs and 2chan people did it (they spoke about that in their website). If the FBI begins to act with them we are doomed.
Where is the website hosted ? In USA probably. I am sure the US POTUS looking for support is ready to suddendly proclaim that manga are bad, violent and arousing for youngs and lolis are child porn. We see the same path with pro-wrestling and PG rating or for movies for USA (Linda MacMahon running for senate).
By the way, in Canada lolis are seen as child porn officialy and the same in Europe soon due to the european commission current debates. USA siding with our enemies is frightening.
Actually Loli's are NOT seen as childporn in my country (Netherlands) which is also in Europe. The law specifically states that anything that looks like a realistic underage girl is childporn whether drawn or not. And big eyed, small-mouthed-no nose Manga drawings do not apply to this as far as I know.
The action against dutch second life members makes a gray area about lolicon and the work of the European commission will banish lolicons and any "depicted sex acts with children". They work about it right now.
LOL Dengeki HIME would actually fall into child porn in the US.
It is a 18+ mag afterall.
so is playboy, but its not cp.
I have only ONE word for the people of Kinokuniya --
意気地なし！ "Ikujinashi!" (Wussies!)
here we find the land of freedom
it's better when only small number of people know the magazine
FBI has our IP and house addresses, same for many countries. Working in a police departement and interpol is often good to be careful and aware.
WTF? Seriously. Complaints? What a fuckin' prudish country the US is....
The kinokuniya near me hasn't stock ANY of those magazines in the last few months (maybe because they already started the ban? I never asked the employees) which sucks. I totally miss Asahiya bookstore since they were guaranteed to carry those magazines every month.
That is why they started pulling this crap because they feel like they don't have any competition. After Asahiya closed these magazines went subscriber only.
Notice this comes right after Sasuga books closed.
I don't blame em. Laws governing such visual depictions of children in the U.S. is all over the place. Their lawyers probably told them it's not worth the trouble.
There's really not a good side to take on this...
Of course, the characters are fictional, and restriction of artistic expression is bad. On the other hand, yes, they damn near constantly sexualize grade schoolers, and as an anime fan from way back, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want that stereotype of fans to die a fast and very painful death. We just finished getting people to believe it's not all tentacle rape as shows became more mainstream, and then suddenly it turns around and we're all pedos... not cool.
But I thought American law cracked down on mere sexualizations of kids, not just nudity? Some say there's an exception for original art? I think it's too grey to challenge as a retailer when guessing wrong essentially means it's game over.
Imyou, grade schoolers ARE SEXUAL BEINGS! FOR FUCKS SAKE, WAKE UP! Children are BORN WITH FULLY FUNCTIONAL GENITALS (with the sole exception of procreation, which only matters if you think that sex is only for procreation), so it's kinda clear that nature EXPECTED US TO BE HAVING SEX FROM BIRTH OR SOON AFTERWARDS.
It's time to stop arguing with nature, she doesn't make mistakes.
Oh, by the way, there is NOT just an exception for original art. There is an exemption for ANY lolicon stuff whatsoever.
Only stuff with REAL CHILDREN IN IT, photographic shit at that, is child porn! The latest law makes that very damned clear.
That is just mor(m)onic.
I understand their worries given the current witch-hunt (with or without not-pantsu) atmosphere. But, Hell, they're just acknowledging a non-existant "guilt" doing that.
And i thought that Inquisition was some centuries behind us...
yay... we're slowly descending back into the dark ages...
The Taliban have won...
The Loliban have won...
GOD, please, destroy USA!
oh wait.. You doing this already.
thank You, GOD, please finish them faster!
you have the prayers of many behind you here in my college. we otaku are not without faith.
If you want to go that route, GOD is destroying the entire world. Wiping out humanity and all its retardedness. So, welcome to the club brother.
yeah, as russian, I always ready to nuclear armageddon
Another case of extreme moral hysteria. This world sucks more and more.
ROFL there are only like 4 stores in the entire US. Of course they're going to stop selling the stuff. Why get put out of business with something that's only 0.001% of your business.
Has anyone here read Lost Girls from Alan Moore? Its actually drawn child pornography and it can even be considered doujin since its not about his original characters. Its not problem of only japan related products.
retards nation.. worrying about loli manga & magazine...which hardly does any real harm...
Comparing with,
the club and dance floor have real underage teens humping each other and taking drugs etc...
logic defying country...
Hmm I have not actually had chance to experience having a mailed publication arrive mutliated. One thing is for sure though, if it had happened to me, the company would be expected to immediately reimbursement for each instance the item arrived mangled.
Not that it is there fault, but, failure to deliver intact goods is the problem of the source.
if there was ever a time to start a movement to stop this shit so innocent people don't get fucked, now would be a pretty good time...
Frankly, if I was ever arrested for having lolicon manga? I'm the WORST NIGHTMARE of the cops, because I am someone who is very intelligent and is totally willing to challenge these and other laws in a court of law, all the way to the Supreme Court.
Die in obscurity or have your name live on in infamy... Not a hard choice, is it?
Damn... I accualy shopped at kinos =<
Child porn, pedophile, people seem to enjoy using these terms flippantly and I really wish they wouldn't.
Child porn was legal at one time in the United States. It should have stayed that way.
So was pedosexuality. It should have stayed that way as well.
It would have been better if all of this sexual NON-morality hadn't been codified into laws. It was NOT about protecting children, it was about having a good 'straw man' to terrify the stupid and meek of society with, in order to get them to give up their rights out of a fear for their children, which I really HATE that most adults automatically are willing to give up even THEIR RIGHT TO EXIST if you use the "HARM TO CHILDREN!" call to arms.
Most adults are stupid. I just wish I realized that sooner in life.
You have to wonder about a nation's priorities when they spend all this energy in this persecution of nickel and dime shit but can't do shit about an environmental disaster of epic proportions or let corrupt corporations steal billions from the people.
Or defend the right to carry guns and show incredibly violent shows on TV while their youths accidentally gun each other down when drunkass dad forgets to lock the gun cabinet.
Or panic about anime pinup mags while they see no problem with MTV practically popularizing teen pregnancy with their stupid "16 and Pregnant" shows.
The U.S. right to carry guns was originally intended to keep the government from pushing its citizens around.
Go and sue their fucking laws, yo. No Megami Magazine, no otaku's live!!
Well this is America:
you've the freedom but not the rights.
WTF!!! They are censoring my life style, but anime and manga are NOT the problem, the problem is the burocrats who are pushed by the american comics, to stop imports. ¡¡¡Viva La Internet!!!
"Under the holdings announced today, no one will be subject to prosecution for the sale or exposure of obscene materials unless these materials depict or describe patently offensive 'hard core' sexual conduct"
--Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger, majority opinion, Miller vs. California 1973
Man, Megami content must have changed a lot since the last time I looked at it.
This world is getting more and more absurd as time goes by..
I should go kill myself already than to be under the rule of stupid people like feminazis and moralfags..
No, better to KILL THE FEMNAZIS AND MORALFAGS, or expose them for what they are as I have. I've shown my friends this stuff, and even the ones who were FORCIBLY RAPED as children say that these asshats are going way too far. They are just basically ENCOURAGING pedosexuals to go out and forcibly rape children, because it is getting so you are damned if you and damned if you don't..... and doing feels GOOD according to a lot of child forcible rapists!
That's a shame. I shop at the Kinokuniya on 6th avenue occasionally when I'm in New York on business. I usually get something to eat upstairs while I'm reading, or more often, listening to whatever music I bought.
Wow i used to just shop there too! wow i cant believe it. I would go there just to buy those magazines.
Wow i think they will loose alot of business if they do this.
i would travel almost 2 hr to get a whole bunch of those magazines just for the cute extras and now they do this wow.
I just cant believe that.
Freedom of expression just went out the window.
America isnt great anymore.
It used to be a good wold but now everything must end.
To many people complain.
Americans complain too much.
Look at the job situation.
Look at stocks? Will we make it out of recession?
Look at all the issues we even Goverment forgot Hurricane Katrina.
Look at Family torn apart by the US.
America is truly torn.
And to just take one more thing away from what people love to do in their life .
Just to censor everything?
They can spend time on small BS but not the real issues facing america thats just to hard.
And yet yearly subscriptions are on sale at another US retailer.
http://store.animebooks.com/megamimagazine.html
I will never understand how this is even child porn.... well at least you'll just have to rely on the internet ^^
Right in one. The last time that the police came to my door years ago(and it was more about my support for pedosexual right and legalization of that!) I stood up, was honest with them, didn't back down.... they went away like dogs with their tails tucked between their legs, because I knew the laws, had a printed out copy of the latest laws, and showed them the EXACT LINE that said that lolicon stuff was not illegal AND the Supreme Court decision that said that.
They tried bullshitting me with "BY COPA!" and as soon as I whipped out those papers when they said that..... "Have a nice day sir, goodbye!" and they drove off!
URL please...
What is the point then shopping there anymore.
whatever, i'll just go to borders.
wouldn't happen if there weren't so many loli characters in anime
It dosen't matter...People are uncomfortable with this (mostly feminazis and moralfags) just have their own 'dirty little secret' that they have to convince themselves that this is more evil than their own f*cked up selves...
DFC, Loli, or even Loli-looking characters in anime...As long as Moralfags and Feminazis exist...No, as long as people with insecurities and paranoia exist, sh*t like this will always happen...
That's why the new generation must be exposed to anime (and eventually Hentai) at a young age so they will grow up to love and adore it instead of being paranoid f*cks...
And when puberty hits, you know they add the 'sex' tag to Pokemon and Naruto when they browse search sites~
Thus, the initiation into anime will be complete for the youngbloods...And they will grow up to become Elites...
In order for society to progress, the old ways must be destroyed and replaced by the new...
In this case, doom to the old folks and their draconic thinking and long-live the young anime fans and otakus...
agreed.
Their 'insecurity' is that they wish to be able to brainwash, threaten and even physically force their children into being celibate, which they have NO right to do.
Children are NOT the slaves of adults and adults are NOT supposed to keep them from doing anything. That is how children learn: by doing things that are 'dangerous' and might end up with them being hurt, emotionally or physically, and learning to deal with that.
They would do better to LEGALIZE pedosexuality and yes, even sleeping with children, and tell children that there is no such thing as an 'always and forever' love except in the movies.
How are you going to say that the US sucks? At least OUR porn is NOT censored. We have the freedom to enjoy what we want. I agree that this act is foolish, but it won't be upheld, as anime is NOT child porn. But to say that the country with the MOST FREEDOM sucks because they stopped selling anime at one location is totally ignorant.
yea, not censored but Japan is the one doing the best porn atm. nuff said
i will never again spend a cent on kinokuniya's overpriced shit. it's a relief in a way. what's next? artbooks?
They should've just slapped a bullshit label on the cover and say that all characters depicted in the magazine are 18 years or older.
srsly, I'd guess ppl advocating censorship (and applying in this case) are just afraid they'd end up getting addicted for the stuff or are afraid to admit they need psychiatric treatment because they are sick enough to get real children if they start seeing lolicon... pitiful..
They're shitting their pants with paranoia and yet a retailer like Best Buy is busy selling 'Strike Witches'.
Grow some balls.
Well this stinks. I didn't have any subscriptions with them, but there is a kinokuniya near where I live. I didn't like it because of their inflated prices, but this adds another reason not to go there. Book Off ftw!
YAY, COMUNISM!!
we cant deny that magazines like megami carry very risk material, and i myself disleked so many loli pin ups, i prefer well developed girls. but the contents was so that they were labeled here "pedo mags" so it's not surprise
Why are people worried? They will get the picture when sales start to go down. Yes, it is that simple. A company starts doing something that you do not like, DON'T SHOP THERE.
As soon as enough people do this they will get the picture (or go out of business - and someone else can come in and start er up)
True...In the end, it's money before morals...
Thank the Old Ones for that...
go suck dick american haters
die!!!!!!!!!!!!
here go some stupid ass american bashing how original.
not!!
We're not bashing America...We're bashing the paranoid idiots living inside her...
My family migrated here from Ireland and I love the food and the scenery...
I just don't like the impudent fools writing laws about freedom that they can't keep...
Alright! This has gone far enough! I can't believe this loli manga scare is starting to have this big of an impact. For Christ sake, someone do something about this already! The characters AREN'T REAL!
Huh, the site posted my comment... apparently straight to NULL this morning. It never appeared.
Anyway, it's hard to solidly take a side on this. It makes perfect sense for them to stop carrying it in the USA, because any vagueness or wiggle room to misinterpret the law could ruin them if someone decides to take them to task.
Of course, artistic expression shouldn't be stifled, neither should freedom of expression of any ideas.
However... I've "read" (where there's text to read? haha) some of these, and they DO sexualize gradeschoolers a LOT, which would be illegal in the US if real, even if clothed. As an anime fan, I'd love to see this stuff cut down to 1/10th what it is now because just as anime started to get some mainstream acceptance, and people realized it's not all tentacle rape, BAM - even worse. Now otaku are typecast as pedophiles. Isn't that lovely? So while I wouldn't censor them, I also wouldn't mourn the loss of about... 95% of mainstream loli ero content that's out there.
No one cares that people are PEDOSEXUALS! (Time for you to realize that they are NORMAL!)
They just don't want pedosexuals going out and forcing children into sexual encounters.... which, by the way, only happens because it is illegal for pedosexuals to sexually proposition children out in the open.
That's a creative rationalization there... No one cares? More like if someone kind of suspects someone else, they're ruined, since everyone has it in their head that not being disgusted by kids is the same as being a rapist. You'd have better luck being outed as a Nazi in most places.
And you think the answer is to legalize sexually propositioning children... why am I even replying?
I love my country, there is no damned moralfags, I can read my Lolimanga where I want and whenever I want whitout fear.
USAfags can suck my dick and swallow my cum cuz you are a bunch of douchebags whitout balls to be men that fight for their freedom.
Ah BTW you can vote - on this comment but you still will be a Douchebag.
Enjoy the land of freedom... freedom to be a Faggot.
Excuse me, but I challenge these things everytime they come up and I live in the United States.
Again, nothing is illegal by federal law unless it has ACTUAL CHILDREN IN IT! The law was changed quite a long time ago to EXEMPT 3DCG lolicon and drawn/manga/doujin lolicon.
These people are relying on an old and outdated interpretation of the law. Now, you might get in trouble under local obscenity laws... BUT WAIT! Challenge them, automatically thrown out, because they are ILLEGAL BY ROTE JUDGMENT! Seriously, all of the 'obscenity' laws would immediately be thrown out of court if someone challenged them on the basis of First Amendment freedom, because the definition of 'obscenity' is so fucking variable that there IS NO CONSENSUS ON IT!
Why do people keep on bringing up the Handley case? The guy was basically SCARED SHITLESS by the prosecutors and pleaded guilty to something that WASN'T EVEN REALLY A CRIME!
The law in question that they were charging him under was GROSSLY unconstitutional and they KNEW IT!
It's the equivalent of passing a law saying that adults cannot sleep together, arresting two adults who do that, and then terrifying them into taking a plea bargain and yelling "THIS JUSTIFIES THIS LAW! IT IS LEGAL!"
Sorry, but no, it ain't!
FYI, this is not a US Customs issue.
US Customs normally can't tell the
difference between a copy of a
Fashion magazine and a Megami magazine
unless (1) the documentation mention it or
(2) US customs just happens to randomly
select your shipment for examination.
Okay, so who the fuck hired that Sweedish guy as the new boss?
Looking at how things are going it won't be long until the government revives the Spanish Inquisition.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOObody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Yay! Yay Castillan white trash! You still owe us Filipinos 50% of your total national resources!
that pic is so hawt
And WWII winners just keeps getting bigger heads! Yay! the world is dooooooomed! Fuck society! what's wrong with a little skin!?! Americans really are thick faced underhanded idiots.....
There are plenty of outlets for ordering the magazines Kinokuniya USA cut. Are we to call the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund before we start ordering? I've seen MEGAMI before. No loli in the the issues I saw. The contents are pretty random.
And thus the censorship cascades goes on.
I AM DISAPPOINT.
I checked my local Kinokunia this Friday, and it was indeed devoid of the magazines listed, although it still had Megami Creator. Furthermore, it still stocked Takamichi Love Works. Go figure.
this ih a book