53% of Women: “No Way Can I Win Against a 2D Girl!”

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53% of Japanese women surveyed reveal once again they have no confidence that they could win their boyfriend back from the non-existent clutches of a 2D girl.

When asked whether they thought they could win against a 2D game character their boyfriend was besotted with, 53% thought they had “no chance” whist 47% had confidence they could defeat the pixelised challenger.

Placed in such a situation, 20% “wouldn’t really mind,” 45% “would like him to stop” and 28% would just like him not to do it in front of them. Only 7% would respond by dumping the offending male.

The threat from Nene appears great indeed, to these women at least.

Defeated women report their feelings of inadequacy:

“There’s no way I can beat that level of cuteness.”

“Their personalities are nice and they have no flaws. Complete perfection.”

“They’re made to be the ideal girlfriend after all.”

“Because he has a manual any man can enjoy a game as much as he likes.”

Some women are irrationally optimistic all the same:

“A game can only play out as it is programmed to.”

“The girl in a game can’t offer the human warmth a real woman can.”

“The unpredictability of reality is a charm unto itself.”

“There’s no way a mere game could win against a real woman like me!”

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        • Anonymous says:

          “That’s what these hopeless, pathetic men went, real women can say no, defend themselves, stand up for themselves. Women are becoming more independent/strong in our modern day society,”

          Talk about walking stereotypes

        • Anonymous says:

          You are right. Deep down, they all long for 3D women, but since they have been rejected by 3D women, they make up pathetic excuses about how “ALL 3D WOMEN” are this and that, and they hate them because of that, which is bullshit. Unless you know all the women in the world personally, then you can’t pull out BS generalization from your ass.

          They are butt hurt because the wonderful women out there that they have attempted talking to/getting to know, have rejected them, due to THEIR flaws, therefore they turn to 2D because that won’t/can’t ever reject them, no matter how fat/ugly and insecure they really are, it can’t say no. It has no will of its own.

          That’s what these hopeless, pathetic men went, real women can say no, defend themselves, stand up for themselves. Women are becoming more independent/strong in our modern day society, these men hate that. 3D women can get their ass put in jail if they cross the line. They don’t want to work on their imperfections and amount to something REAL WOMEN might actually want or admire, no, that’s just too much work. They’re lazy.

          They’ll rather take the “safe/pathetic” root and SETTLE for 2D women, because they are obedient mindless slaves, that’s what they want, something that won’t and can’t talk back, that will only praise them even though they have countless flaws, that won’t remind them of their failure in life or criticize them. 2D is the easy way out.

          Therefore 2D > 3D.

          All these 3D men should stick to their 2D chicks, it’s not like 3D women are missing out on anything great anyways, lol. And when you fail to procreate, you’re only doing 3D women a favour by taking yourselfs out of the gene pool.

        • I don’t see how pointing out the irony/hypocrisy that you guys think 3D women should be perfect when none of you are anywhere remotely close to perfect is ‘butthurt’.
          Or that I pointed out that 2D men are better than 3D men. If 2D is superior to 3D to you guys, why are men an exception? It’s like deep down, you really -do- want women to like you. I can’t speak for everyone, but -I- would if you would judge a person based on their actual personality and not from blanket statements you read on the internet about their gender.

          IMO I dont get why someone would ‘prefer’ perfection to the real thing though. Who wants to settle for a Mary-sue?

  • Anonymous says:

    I still preffer 2D girls, and if you say “You can’t have sex with them” I say “That’s what prostitutes are for, not girlfriends” (everybody knows girlfriends will try to chain you down into marriage and relieve themselves of the duty of sexually pleasing you…)

  • Anonymous says:

    “Their personalities are nice and they have no flaws. Complete perfection.”

    That’s not true, they do have flaws. Their flaws simply contribute to their perfection. Contradictory but true.

  • Anonymous says:

    I can’t win against a 2D women and they can’t win either cuz we aren’t even in the same league. They aren’t real i am real, where is the competition in that? is like comparing harry potter with twilight both are different genres, stories, styles. There are 3 kinds of guys: 1 the ones that likes real women. 2 the ones that likes 2d women and 3 the ones that likes both. I dont mind any of them at all. Im not planning to marry, if i want a baby i can go to a sperm bank i alredy have the womb. and if i want sex then i will use male prostitutes services or a robot when they are created.

  • This is only the beginning, over time robots will be perfected and maybe one day we see it evolved to a level on what we see on Anime shows, then we see the women rallying against robots.

    Imagine a day when men start going into Persocom shops to get their ideal companion.

    Yes, man want woman but if man are rejected and forced to live a life of loneliness, have a Persocom isn’t a bad idea.

    Even now, we already see some people having to restore to Candy Dolls. If that day comes, i’d guess it’s the end of us.

    So I hope ladies around can just give the guys a chance to know them better, before we become extinct.

  • Anonymous says:

    You all wish your 2D imaginary GF was 3D. You wouldn’t imagine something if you didn’t want it to be “somehow there with you”. Since it can’t be there in reality, you imagine it. Wishing 2D was 3D automatically means, as much as you’re deinying it, that even YOU BELIEVE that 3D IS BETTER than 2D.

    You’re thinking of possible ways your 2D waifu could become more realistic… More 3D. Lol… You’re all lying to yourselves. Only a real Otaku (a.k.a. pathetic loser) would want their 2D chick to stay just that, TWO D.

    3D > 2D. You all think so and know so.

  • Anonymous says:

    This is sad on so many levels. For one, a man who is more into 2D than 3D – and take no offense at this – are kind of sad itself, but when they are so “devoted” that even pulling their pants down and stealing their dick off – THAT’s sad.

    Would you rather jack off to a caricature of your mom than getting a blowjob from a hot real girl – who also makes you obento? Really? You’re sick. D:<

  • So many posts, so little time.

    This comment though was funny.

    "Huh, good luck finding a woman that is still going to give you blowjobs and let you finger her at your command after you're married and about to have kids. She'll refuse more often than not.
    Her tits will sag, she'll get fat and old."

    I was married in 86, guess where my woman's mouth was this morning 🙂
    Your woman won't put out if you ain't worth it and THAT is the only reality people.

    Everyone has a price, and it comes down to whether you like it or not.

    Maybe too many girls in Japan are asking too much?
    Maybe too many guys in Japan are not worth having?

    As for the son slag earlier 🙂
    And the response it got, that gave me a chuckle hehe.

    My son is not that bad looking a kid. Sucks that he is taller than me and he's only 16 dang it he might get even bigger.
    But at least MY balls have been used for what they were meant for hehe, what about yours?

  • “A game can only play out as it is programmed to.”

    “The girl in a game can’t offer the human warmth a real woman can.”

    “The unpredictability of reality is a charm unto itself.”

    “There’s no way a mere game could win against a real woman like me!”

    …I don’t blame these girls for their optimism, but I think the growing numbers in Nene’s boyfriend list seems to tell all here. Even though I know plenty of men who would not be seduced by the idea of a virtual girlfriend, the truth is, many many guys would, and they do.

    I feel a little sorry for them, actually.

    • Anonymous says:

      Problem lies in self-esteem.

      Mine is so low I can’t even go out with my male friends anymore. I always feel like I don’t belong, following the group instead of interacting with it, so I just refuse to go altogether.
      On parties I always was a wallflower or couch decoration, eating snacks alone, looking at others having fun. If I was by chance approached by someone I always turned down all of their offers automatically without giving it much thought (happens to this day when strangers message me on IMs). Of course, I always regret that later on, but if I accepted I’d only end up embarassing myself and losing what’s left of my confidence.
      During my high school days, I was completely friendless through the first three months, I didn’t try to interact with anyone even on the 1st day when everyone was a stranger to each other and it was simple to make new acquaintances. Nope, I just waited for the right moment and after observing everyone only then could I try to do something. It took me three months to make one friend, well, not really a friend, but you know what I mean.

      This being said, I have absolutely no chance at ever finding myself a real girlfriend. Call me a coward if you wish, I know I’d only waste my hypothetical girlfriend’s time should I attempt to befriend her. I’d never meet her expectations and would always be a bother to her. At least that’s what I think.

      Besides, it’s better to think that you’re a loser than to think you’re cool (while you aren’t) and annoy everyone around by forcing yourself upon them.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Problem lies in self-esteem.

        Mine is so low I can’t even go out with my male friends anymore. I always feel like I don’t belong, following the group instead of interacting with it, so I just refuse to go altogether.
        On parties I always was a wallflower or couch decoration, eating snacks alone, looking at others having fun. If I was by chance approached by someone I always turned down all of their offers automatically without giving it much thought (happens to this day when strangers message me on IMs). Of course, I always regret that later on, but if I accepted I’d only end up embarassing myself and losing what’s left of my confidence.
        During my high school days, I was completely friendless through the first three months, I didn’t try to interact with anyone even on the 1st day when everyone was a stranger to each other and it was simple to make new acquaintances. Nope, I just waited for the right moment and after observing everyone only then could I try to do something. It took me three months to make one friend, well, not really a friend, but you know what I mean.”

        And what are you doing about it? Oh, yeah, nothing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah, I’ve seen too many people that think theyre cool but really arent and they constantly try to force themselves upon everyone. I’m actually friends with someone like that…I feel like punching them in the face -_-
        Anyway, it’s the same for me cuz I really doubt I’m going to find a gf this year in college but all we can do is go on in life and wait for chobits-like robots

    • But you have to remember: The women in Japan are the ones with overtly high expectations from their suitors. They expect their men to make over $60000 or have some sort of fame in art/economics/politics. Once they’ve formed a family, the Japanese women quit their own jobs and expect their men to provide all as well financial support for the family (not to mention relinquish all their financial control).

      They let their own materialism and laziness get in the way of pursuing a true love-based relationship, and now they whine about how some 2D girl is replacing them? ZERO SYMPATHY HERE.

      • That’s true, but it’s sad that the ones who don’t (though with statistics in mind…the very, very few) have to suffer for everyone else’s bitchiness and obscene expectations. Not all Japanese women are money-grubbing harpies, just like not all Japanese men are ronery hikkikomori. (though this is becoming the norm, which is sad.)

        But at the same time, aren’t the men who are buying these things just as guilty of insane expectations? 2-D girls don’t argue with them, don’t ask for anything really, and is an image of perfection in terms of appearance and personality. These girls are the reflections of what the guys themselves want…

        If you ask me, both sides need to get a reality check and step off their high horses. Women aren’t going to just ‘demand nothing’, but at the same time, not all men are going to make a million dollars and be super-awesome super-princes or whatever. It’s all just ridiculous.

        (And when I meant that I felt sorry for them, I more felt sorry for the women in their delusions that guys wouldn’t dump them for idealized girlfriends, rather than they were being replaced to begin with…)

  • Anonymous says:

    “There’s no way a mere game could win against a real woman like me!”

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

    lol rly?

  • Anonymous says:

    As far as i’ve read, boys are just as picky as girls, if not more so. When girls go out or marry the guy for money, there is a deeper reason behind it. Also, i am a girl and i do NOT go 4 a guy just bcus he is “rich”. infact the last guy I dated was pretty broke most of the time and he was the longest relationship I hav ever had…I also paid for things. Our relationship was based on something deeper than any relationship that u could possibly have with a 2D girl.

  • Anonymous says:

    All these stupid comments wouldn’t them be the reason for you to fail to conquer the women that fit for most of you ?
    (i spotted some people that aren’t stupid in these comments, nice)

    Women aren’t naive, they are quite shocked by the stupidity of these programs that offers only textual and images and men that love it. If you can write these levels of non-sense that surely means you never been in troubles, and you are a lonely boy that needs to criticize the women for to justify your FAIL at hang on with one you like.

    Or maybe you have a GF or even a Wife, but you don’t seems attribute her much importance. Women aren’t objets, they are people. Try to remember THAT.

    1: “If only a women can do that.”
    ++> I think you have no idea of what you are talking about. A video game cannot make you smile, cannot cheer you because you pass the exam, you cannot kiss a computer … or maybe you do if so … I don’t think you know what a real kiss mean, if you people can write down these things. ..

    2: “My laptot is hotter than any human being.”
    Would you like your mother, father or tutor, to say to you : “Go fuck yourself i’ve got my tv and i got more warmth for it than from you, so get the fuck out of my place ! ” ? I don’t think so.

    The robots : WTF. I am student in artificial Intelligence I don’t believe much than we work for your desires just to have a doll … to “fuck” maybe ? I think this is the word that fit you most, or need. You don’t make love, you just wanna copulate like beasts. Having someone who say “yes” to everything you wish ect ect ect

    3DPD : WTF that too…

    Also I think that you don’t know what you say. I am with my girlfriend, in Japan and she is Japanese. Not a fake bitch with fake tan, nails, hair, eyes and what else. I wouldn’t say “a woman” but yeah, from outside she’s a women like others.

    So instead of playing your DS, go and try to hang on on the real life, geeks.

    • Anonymous says:

      It all comes down to this:
      – you wanted to brag about your japanese girlfriend who probably resides in your imagination as there’s no proof to her existence
      – you wanted to brag that you study artificial intelligence
      Basically, you just wanted to show off while covering it all up with ‘wise’ words.
      If you’re so successful in life, why waste your precious time here writing a comment that long? You could’ve just gone and played with her or studied A.I.

      “A video game cannot make you smile” – O rly? I smiled, laughed, cried and worried while playing some of my eroge, not only eroge actually. Some RPGs out there have nice stories and you actually feel emotionally attached to the characters, even though you know perfectly they don’t exist. It’s obvious that if you play a game where you just go around fucking everyone then you won’t feel anything but arousal. Faggot.

  • Anonymous says:

    They lose to 2d characters because they’re idiots. It’s just like these hoes destroying their boyfriends’ gaming systems – dump the loser and get a real relationship. But instead they’d rather feel sorry for themselves and cry. So in the end its probably best that we have the 2d girls to distract from the whiny bitching from overly dependent, and unimaginative girls that would rather take a beating than try and find a job.

  • Bronxdragon says:

    End of the human relationship? Dude thats been over since the internet put up free porn. Most people meet other people over the net now maybe like 75% or so of married couples are through the net. If you don’t meet the person through high school then its through the net. Most people don’ want to go out and just meet people anymore. Well if they do its mostly likley they are going out for a one night stand deal.

  • I don’t think the situation is so hopeless… I may sound like a radical, but I humbly suggest… femininity? Stop trying to do everything a man does, while only going out with rich executives who surrender their fortune to you to manage?

    I hope this isn’t overly misogynistic – if a woman wants to be treated as an equal, I’m all for it. Many equals are competitors in business, and a lot of traditionally masculine and dominating behavior is simply not attractive – attraction isn’t fair, logical, and even-handed, it’s instinctive.

    So if girls want to be as or more attractive than fictional girls, they should see that these idolized characters often act as girls were reputed to act in a bygone era. Maybe you can’t have your cake and eat it too? Being too much the independent, business-minded, lone wolf I see these days naturally entails self-isolation and not showing “weakness” as in traditionally feminine traits, thus not attracting mates.

  • Anonymous says:

    Do you know whats retrded about these kinds of surveys? That people still think anime/manga/hentai/videogame characters are actually more real than real life people. Women should know that we can’t have sex with 2d girls and that as long as they are real and people we can have sex with, they will always be better than 2d girls.

    However the concern is understandable considering to some cultures and subcultures, 2d chars has been a vital part in some peoples lives, but still, you can’t have sex with something that is not real. Of course you can’t beat 2d girls in looks, that is the whole point. Its a fantasy and its something that we wish, but will never happen so we play it out as an otoku.

    Some girls are just hopeless.

  • Anonymous says:

    Hehe the less the competition the better. 2D-lover LOSERS can stick to their 2D world as LOSERS. We REAL men get to do it with the remaining real ladies. You 2D LOSERS just keep on masturbating (standing ovation)

  • Jeez, every time articles like this come out, it’s cue for “time to bash real women!” So what, 2D girls can be ideally cute and beautiful and nice all the time and with real girls, it’s not always the case? The same can be said of 2D guys. Real girls age, get angry and don’t have photo-shopped skin? Well, the same could be said of real guys. I’m not gonna waste my time going on and on about how guys will never be this and that because I know it will piss them off and I know realistically that a guy will probably never be like a 2D guy. Do the otaku who go off about saying girls are 3DPD deserve to have such high standards if many of them don’t take care of themselves? I’m not so sure.

  • Anonymous says:

    People need to get the term correct.

    What is 2D? 2D in just the appearance? Because if that’s the case, I know some 2D girls who acts just as stupid/bitchy as real women.

    Yuzuki Eba from ‘Kimi No Iru Machi’ is one example of a 2D girl with 3D bitchiness. Anyone who’s read the recent arc and went to forums will notice the anti-Eba uproar.

  • I have a wife, she's nothing to look at from anyone else's perspective, I know this, I'm not stupid. Some would easily call her fat and ugly.

    I do know this though, in the morning, lying in bed, having my cock sucked on, before some most definitely enjoyable fucking, I have it better than any guy and his damn game girl. Because at the end of the day, the only person that's going to make you shoot your load, is your hand.

    I'm nothing thrilling to look at either. I can tell you no woman is eying me up and down as I walk down the street. The wife is in no danger of losing her man.

    And that's the truth people. All you guys (and girls) with your 3d pig disgusting comments, you won't be reproducing, and in time, your dna will disappear. You're all no better looking than the people you insult.

    I'm already looked after I have had kids.
    And my sex life is the real thing.
    And ya know, nothing replaces filling a woman with your load.

    Those woman of the 53%, they are not trying hard enough to keep their men.

  • Anonymous says:

    “I say slap them bitches into remembering their actual role in life, and no country in the world will any longer have to deal with demographic issues caused by gender wars.”

    And just what do you consider a womans ‘actual role in life’ to be? A mans’ subservient fuck toy? One thing to remember whenever you feel the need to bitch about women is that the roles and attitudes women have taken on were formed in a male dominated society. You may feel put upon when their negative attentions are focused on you, however they have to put up with just as much shit from you.

    That is the real appeal of these 2d girls, they can be totally subservient and deferrential because they have no real life expectations or needs. I can see how alot of japanese women would have a hard time seeing how to compete with something that appeals to the lazy male population so much.

    QFT.

  • Anonymous says:

    Otakus wouldn’t be afraid to show their masculine sides if they had one. The live vicarously through their computers. When they ride on trains, they’re not allowed to touch women (but do anyway).

    They are the least interesting men in the world.

    Stay ronery my friends.

  • Anonymous says:

    Hey Japan

    Nice birthrates

    Treat your fucking men better.

    I actually went to Japan. The place is extremely prude/non diverse/racist

    Also enjoyed your censored porn

    Your women are hot, but they fucking expect men to be prince charming. They need to wake the fuck up.

    • “I actually went to Japan. The place is extremely prude/non diverse/racist”

      You do realize you’re talking about an island nation with a population of 127,704,000 people (latest google figure, 2008)right? With that many people crammed onto a relatively small area, yeah, they’re not going to be very diverse.

      In my limited experience they are racist, however, they are different than most racists people are used to.. they simply disdain those who are not japanese. They’re not really anti-black, anti-semitic, or anything else that I’ve seen.

      “Your women are hot, but they fucking expect men to be prince charming. They need to wake the fuck up.”

      Japanese women may have unrealistic expectations, I don’t know for sure. I think the biggest gripe women have regarding men in Japan is their income… so keep a decent job!

      However, I do know that men also have unrealistic expectations. Sure, they’ll often do anything with a wet spot between the legs, but for a lasting partner, they want alot more. The average man expects an extraordinary woman.

      Although I’m reluctant to source anime as an example, I will anyway because this is sancom XD Just look at any anime that has romance in it. The guy is almost always very average, or even below average. Yet he ends up with the cutest, sweetest girl in the series. This is the fantasy that plays out over and over again in anime, and to a slightly lesser degree hollywood, and I think it influences what people expect.

    • Anonymous says:

      Japanese women are NOT hot, most got a ugly skintone that reminds of yellowish ash, they don’t shave, and they have a fucked up preference to sound as rapevictims whenever you try to have sex with them…

    • Anonymous says:

      “Because he has a manual any man can enjoy a game as much as he likes.”

      I thought most game manufacturers quit printing hard-copy manuals to save money…

      Or, is that her way of saying “masturbating his joystick”?

  • Anonymous says:

    …The fact that women think they can’t beat a 2D character amuses me.
    My fiance looks at 2D girls all he wants, but he doesn’t neglect me or anything for them, in fact he pays more attention to me than them even though I don’t beg or ask for it like most annoying girlfriends seem to.
    2D girls aren’t a threat, and most women just seem to be too self-conscious and self absorbed to see otherwise. It’s better he’s looking at fake girls than other real ones because it’s not like he’s going to be off having sex with them, now is he?

    • Anonymous says:

      You’re missing the point,if you don’t have a 3d with you from the begining,there’s no way she can “barge” into your life if you got a 2d with you.

      first thing:you’ll be disgusted
      second thing:she’ll be disgusted
      third thing:back off 3d freak!

      Fact is:if the guy hasn’t been brainwashed by the 3d before the 2d come into his life,then the 3d hasn’t a snowball chances in hell to have a solid relation with the guy.

      ….so what i mean is….huh…i forgot?

      konataaaaaaaaa let’s playyyyyyy! \( ^v^)/

  • Zanosuke_Kurosaki says:

    I swear, I have got to stop reading these comments. Over 90% of them just keep making me disgusted with the majority of my fellow geeks and their lack of humanity. So hey, go for it, let’s see if you guys can get it up to that 100% “I need to burn you all!” approval rating! =P

  • Anonymous says:

    I really don’t get how anyone can like a fake person more than a real one. Just going into all the reasons is ridiculous.

    In the future if we have robot girls with life like AI that look and feel real it would probably be normal. For now though, you’d have to be seriously fucked in the head to have a game character destroy a real relationship.

    • Anonymous says:

      “you’d have to be seriously fucked in the head to have a game character destroy a real relationship.”

      indeed, and the ones taking the initiative to destroy the very relationship after an imaginary waifu appears are the women themselves.

      I don’t know why, but seeing the ridiculous comment ratings here makes me think this blog has be washed away by a tide of brain fucked feminists.

      • Anonymous says:

        “comment ratings here makes me think this blog has be washed away by a tide of brain fucked feminists.”

        Its the white knights doing that they think they’ll get sex by doing it.

  • Anonymous says:

    I’ve always said it, 2D shall win!
    Now 3D girls have admitted their defeat, so grab Love Plus or an eroge, a Tenga and enjoy your perfect 2D girls!

    But still, I fear the day when someone creates the f*ckable virtual girl, for this would mean the end of mankind.

  • A lot of women suffer from an outbreak of arrogance, greed and absentmindedness; whilst men have no balls to tame the spreading disease. Both sexes are at fault. And by no means is feminism, nor male indifference to the matter, helpful.

    I say slap them bitches into remembering their actual role in life, and no country in the world will any longer have to deal with demographic issues caused by gender wars.

    • “I say slap them bitches into remembering their actual role in life, and no country in the world will any longer have to deal with demographic issues caused by gender wars.”

      And just what do you consider a womans ‘actual role in life’ to be? A mans’ subservient fuck toy? One thing to remember whenever you feel the need to bitch about women is that the roles and attitudes women have taken on were formed in a male dominated society. You may feel put upon when their negative attentions are focused on you, however they have to put up with just as much shit from you.

      That is the real appeal of these 2d girls, they can be totally subservient and deferrential because they have no real life expectations or needs. I can see how alot of japanese women would have a hard time seeing how to compete with something that appeals to the lazy male population so much.

      • Anonymous says:

        “And just what do you consider a womans ‘actual role in life’ to be? A mans’ subservient fuck toy?”

        Ironically, that’s the one of the few mistaken ideas that drives all of those feminist groups.
        Well, as a matter of fact, the way the women society is now, I wouldn’t be surprised if in order to please their male partners being a subservient fuck toy is the only option left.

        What males seek in females is femininity, love, and obedience. And yes, I’ll emphasize the word obedience, whilst leaving it to you to decide whether it has anything to do with sexual intercourse.

        An image that was impossible to witness in ancient times, Middle Ages, and even a few centuries ago, is when one experiences difficulties to distinguish the differences between the two sexes. The country of women, which initially had a unique culture and traditions, underwent the process of globalization, seeking “equal rights” with the neighbor country of men. Thus, they simply killed the individuality of their own sex, inherently becoming of least interest to males.

        I believe in nature, for which I believe that the perfect image of a woman always lived in the minds of men from the very beginning. And as women decided to bestow themselves with a new “religion”, in exchange receiving a handful of “equal rights” as well as social status, they chose to wipe their feet against what was so treasured by the opposite sex, as a result ending up with a handful of incompetent men.
        Well, as they say, everything has a price and you get what you ask for.

        Thus in the sense of 2D vs. 3D, all I can say is SELFPWNED.

      • Anonymous says:

        “lazy male population so much.”

        If you are a woman or implying women some how work harder in relationships you are a fool.

        “You may feel put upon when their negative attentions are focused on you, however they have to put up with just as much shit from you.”

        Complete bullshit

        • Anonymous says:

          “Just being a man lets you get away with alot. Expectations are lower in many areas. Men are not expected to be perfect specimens of the male form. Men are only expected to keep their jobs, and take out the garbage. Anything beyond that is a bonus”

          We are expected to not show emotion to always be in control

          To be aggressive even though most of us aren’t

          To be confident at all times

          We are expected to be successful, women are not.

          We are expected to use logic again women are not.

        • “It is as I said it is if women got as much criticism for their actions and opinions as men most would be hiki’s by now”

          Is that what you meant? Should’ve said that instead of “Complete bullshit”, because I couldn’t read that into it at all.

          You really think women don’t get criticised as much as men do? Women are criticized constantly, both by other women, and men.

          When you’re a woman and you’re successful, you probably slept your way to the top. If you’re not attractive and you’re successful, then you’re considered a failure as a woman because you must be forsaking your femininity. If you’re a woman posting on the internet, you’re told there are no women on the internet. If you’re a woman and you try to defend your position, you’re a femnazi.

          Just being a man lets you get away with alot. Expectations are lower in many areas. Men are not expected to be perfect specimens of the male form. Men are only expected to keep their jobs, and take out the garbage. Anything beyond that is a bonus. (Yes, this is a humorous exaggeration, but I make my point)

          I wanted to find the game lists to see how they might reflect on the statements in the article, but I couldn’t find them so I can’t use them. 🙁

          I’m afraid I can’t comment on the hiki part, I’m only passingly familiar with hikkikomori, so I don’t know why they are the way they are.

        • Anonymous says:

          “Ahhh yes, the ‘I can’t think of an intelligent thing to say so I’ll just dismiss it outright’ argument. I won’t say anything more about it.”

          It is as I said it is if women got as much criticism for their actions and opinions as men most would be hiki’s by now

        • “”lazy male population so much.”

          If you are a woman or implying women some how work harder in relationships you are a fool.”

          You took that one part completely out of context, not a good way to make an argument. By lazy male population, I was referring to those guys who find dealing with relationships a bother, and would thus rather push a button. Which, unfortunately, is a lot of people both in japan and throughout the world.

          “Complete bullshit”

          Ahhh yes, the ‘I can’t think of an intelligent thing to say so I’ll just dismiss it outright’ argument. I won’t say anything more about it.

      • Anonymous says:

        “And just what do you consider a womans ‘actual role in life’ to be? A mans’ subservient fuck toy?”

        Ironically, that’s the one of the few mistaken ideas that drive all of those feminist groups.
        Well, as a matter of fact, the way the women society is now, I wouldn’t be surprised if in order to please their male partners being a subservient fuck toy is the only option left.

        What males seek in females is femininity, love, and obedience. And yes, I’ll emphasize the word obedience, whilst leaving it to you to decide whether it has anything to do with sexual intercourse.
        An image that was impossible to witness in ancient times, middle ages, and even a few centuries ago, is when one experiences difficulties to distinguish the differences between the two sexes. The country of women, which initially had a unique culture and traditions, underwent the process of globalization, seeking “equal rights” with the neighbor country of men. Thus, they simply killed the individuality of their own sex, inherently becoming of least interest to males.

        I believe in nature, for which I believe that the perfect image of a woman always lived in the minds of men from the very beginning. And as women decided to bestow themselves with a new “religion”, in exchange receiving a handful of “equal rights” as well as social status, they chose to wipe their feet against what was so treasured by the opposite sex, as a result ending up with a handful of incompetent men.

        Well, as they say, everything has a price and you get what you wish for.

        Thus in the sense of 2D vs. 3D, all I can say is SELFPWN.

  • cheese_cake says:

    getting the warmth and all easily is nice & relaxing… but imho, i feel a greater sense of triumphant when the gurl i like finally falls for me after putting in all that effort. also, it’s nice to see what one would do for the person he/she loves most. tho pity those kinda things usually happen in manga….

    my dream is to be like hachibi-kun frm ai-kora d: really love the column whereby he announces his love for tenmaku to the whole school d: i really wanna reach that stage XD sigh… my youth is expiring… gotta act quick …..

  • Anonymous says:

    Competing with the perfect image of a girl spawned straight from someone’s fantasy is obviously hard to do for an actual living being. Not really fair… I mean, come on, I’m not asking anyone to be Sebastian Michaelis for me either (Tho… then again I wouldn’t mind) T____T…

  • Anonymous says:

    The 2-D girls includes the picture hug pillows, figurines, posters as well as their incarnation into video games versions so in effect the 2-D girls can quickly become part of the persons life and appear even in the dreams very quickly.

  • Actually these surveys should have a reverse version as well…
    I mean women have host clubs, several cosplay cafés, BL and otome games, idols and fanservice as well…

    I would like to know how men judge their wives/girlfriends going to host clubs where the guys ‘sell fictive love/affection’ or to cosplay cafés where cute lil’ brothers or butlers are offering a ‘fantasy’ or playing games where all types of hot 2D guys are presented…

    Even though it’s mostly said women and men are very different, when it comes down to the basics they are completely the same 🙂

  • Anonymous says:

    Of course they can’t compete… a guy that will choose 2D in the first place will never consider 3D anyway. They aren’t interested in reality but their own self made world.

    And like what some girls said, virtual girls don’t poop, fart, get period blues, etc… perfect for men who can’t be arsed to compromised.

    • Anonymous says:

      Huh, good luck finding a woman that is still going to give you blowjobs and let you finger her at your command after you’re married and about to have kids. She’ll refuse more often than not.
      Her tits will sag, she’ll get fat and old.

      You’ll end up on the couch watching TV all day like all the stereotypical dads, ignoring her needs and making her do all the household chores.
      It always ends like this. Always.

      Living in fantasy world like yours “I can do anything to my partner when we both start to love each other!” is worse than being with a 2D girl in a certain sense, you know. With a 3D partner sooner or later you’ll end up disappointed since your high hopes will get washed away after she refuses to suck your penis for the 2nd time. Then you’ll just end up paired up with a girl that doesn’t quite match your expectations and divorcing will leave you with little money and probably no house to live in, since it’s usually women who get all the stuff, since they took care of the kids the most and the most reasonable choice is to live with her for the rest of your life and hope that she dies before you do.

      Even if a woman you’ll love will allow you to do naughty things to her for years after marriage, once she finally gets bored of you or you get bored of her (let’s not fool ourselves, it WILL happen) it won’t be so fun anymore. It won’t be like that innocent young adult sex you had before. It just won’t feel fresh anymore. You won’t feel that bit of nervousness because you already penetrated her too many times.
      After this it’s just boring life, restricted by your wife and kids leeching most of your cash. Kids destroying household items etc etc etc

      • Anonymous says:

        Otakus are the shallow ones, they can’t handle that their naive view on romance and relationships have close to no resemblance to real life relationships. They dream about a woman that will fall from the sky into their lap without them having to even break a sweat, and who will “love them for who they are”, ironically while they at the same time curse all the “3d pigs” for not meeting their standards…

        They are like the male version of Twilight fangirls that have overread the books to the degree were they can’t have a normal relationship because it will never be as perfect as their cheesy vampire romance, and when they can’t find one they start blaming the guys for not being cheesy vampires…

        • Anonymous says:

          @Kei-chan1

          You’re saying all those reasons, then why are you (or those of you who whine and bitch about how “3D women are bitches for not noticing us because of our status”) not doing anything about it? And don’t give me that bullshit about how you can’t. People can always get what they want if they work at it enough.

          Oh yeah, I forgot. Most otakus/SanCom users are lazy fatasses whose heads are so far up the clouds they forget they’re living in a real, imperfect world.

        • because there are no bastard men in the world whatsoever! /sarcasm.

          If you guys think you can fairly judge 50% of the earth’s population by a few negative examples which indicates you seem to think one woman represents all women, then I guess I should blame all men every time one man does something stupid. Like I dunno, George Bush or some dumbass celebrity. Luckily I’m not that stupid and know that holy shit! Everyone is different in some way! Who would have thought?

        • While i’ll agree with what you said anon, the men aren’t at fault all by themselves. The number of “bitch” women in the world are multiplying like bacteria. It is tough going in to a society that defines you before you’re even born. Your social status defines you from your family background, money, genes, and if your an unlucky guy who managed to get fucked on all 3, whos going to look your way? Certainly not the women who have their heads so far up their ass they can’t settle for having a nice average guy, but want the pretty rich guy. When you get blown off enough, and made fun of enough, sometimes a crutch is needed. Hatreds do form after being cast as a leper long enough can lead to that kind of “3DPD” thought, though its not an excuse for everyone. Then there are the shut ins that really have no excuse for their bullshit claims, they are the ones that never looked in the first place and kept crying about it while never doing anything at all to fix it.

          Just try not to make an arguement without either supporting or bashing both sides, or it makes you look biased and inconsiderate.

        • Anonymous says:

          Straight from wikipedia for ya:
          An intimate relationship is a particularly close interpersonal relationship. It can be defined by these characteristics: enduring behavioral interdependence, repeated interactions, emotional attachment, and need fulfillment.

  • Anonymous says:

    See, I don’t see where the problem is. Frankly, this is Darwinism in action, far as I’m concerned, plus it means there are more actual human females looking for mates, which increases my chances of getting laid exponentially. In theory, anyway.

  • RaspberryKisses says:

    i gave up on real woman. apparently i’m not good enough / not rich enough. 2d woman give me attention and love. so fuck you 3d woman why i need to work extra hard , do sports and spend money on you to have a privilege of having a relationships with you. i can buy love+ and have all relationships i need in my pocket and still have a money to buy myself something nice.

  • “The girl in a game can’t offer the human warmth a real woman can.”

    Yes she can. Unlike real women, you can score with the girl in a game in 3-7 days tops if you get your ability points up and keep your health in the 80%-90% range. It takes weeks sometimes months to score with a real women lol.