As promised, the newly formed coalition of Japanese and US manga publishers has indicated it is pursuing legal action against major manga piracy and scanlation sites in defence of its copyrights.
The Digital Comic Association, a Japanese publisher group supposedly formed to promote digital sales but fast turning into the manga equivalent of the RIAA, has partnered with 4 top English language publishers to tackle a short-list of 30 problem sites.
Starting with the US sites, those who ignore legal warnings will be sued for damages and subjected to criminal charges where appropriate.
With the sites in question maintaining substantial server presences in the US (although at least one major network is managed by a shady Chinese company), it does not seem likely publishers will have much trouble shutting them down.
Publishers may be in for a rude awakening once they have taken down the major offenders – in lieu of a proper legal online alternative, a rush of freeloading manga fans to even more robust torrent sites seems the likely response, not a sudden rush to bookshops as publishers rather naively seem to hope.
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Finally, let's hope onemanga gets shut down for good.
I think you meant to type...
"Finally, let's hope narutofan gets shut down for good", RIGHT!?
Sooner or later, you can't read manga online anymore :)
but you would still be able to download it
I'm going to mention 'valuable coupons inside' again.
You know how they mail ya them envelopes with 'valuable coupons inside'? It's called marketing. You never sell more than your market is interested in buying. Illegal downloads are not lost sales. Those people stole something they only stole because they could.
The internet is not going anywhere. People with a product to sell should just accept they have a finite pool of actual buyers and get over it.
Yeah, I'd rather have a nice large manga library. I'd rather have a lot of things. I don't get everything I want though. That's called reality. Reality happens to business just like it happens to me.
If they want to sell manga on 21st century planet earth, using 20th century business methods means they suffer internet downloads and they sell inefficiently.
My advice, sell through retail, and sell through digital download, and stfu about the fact that people will steal.
I wouldn't download a car, fucking Christ, who made that advertisement eh. I'd fucking well download a Porsche in a second if I could. Fucking right I would. Wouldn't steal a purse? actually people do steal purses. Actually they steal cars too, but you have to steal those in person. It's called grand theft auto in the US. Not sure of the Canadian term.
I'd buy downloadable manga if the price was sane.
I wonder why Artefact doesnt reply to this kinds of comments
.....because if he can't win the argument, he runs away and hides!
Or because this argument is stupid and not worth his time?
If it weren't for those sites I wouldn't have ever known manga. If they really went through with it, I will never read manga since it is really expensive and not accessible where I live. Can't they be content with the prophet they make from legal purchases? They are going to kill manga fandome in the rest of the world. I hate this imperialism.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Part of the problem with North American manga and anime selling poorly can be traced directly to the cost of those products for the consumer.
A season of anime can cost $50 or more. A season of a North American cartoon costs roughly $25-$30. For $13, you can get a comicbook-sized, full color trade paperback of a north american comic. For $10, you can get a novel-sized, black and white tankobon of a manga. Those numbers don't look too bad until you realize that a long-running series like Naruto, running weekly, can put out a tankobon once every two months, compared to six months for a north american comic.
It's an expensive hobby.
Blanket statements like this are absurd. Anime season sets for $50? Maybe if you go to brick and mortar stores that mark up the prices like crazy. Online retailers like Amazon and Right Stuf typically have far more reasonable prices. And even if a box set does break the $50 mark, it's still less expensive than buying the individual DVD's overall.
And of course, anime is UNIVERSALLY less expensive in North America than in Japan, where the prices can (and usually do) go two or three times higher.
No way that's abuse of power we have rights to read because the manga book is not available here in my country materially but virtually in the net it is!
Yes, convince me to buy your product by going after scanslators instead of doing the same thing yourself (TIMELY accurate translation of manga distributed digitally without painful DRM and high chance of translated until the end) and selling it to me digitally at a decent price...
If manga was actually translated, distributed digitally, localized in days to weeks, cheaper and even somewhat reliable in reaching an ending, i would buy much more if it.
Service similar to Spotify could solve this and fix many of the current bottlenecks in distribution. Maybe we could create a petition for this? "We are willing to pay for digital copies, please provide us the service."
As a starting point, could Artifact set up a poll to this site?
"What monthly fee would you be willing to pay for having unlimited access to digital copies of manga?"
- 5 x / month
- 10 x / month
- 15 x / month
fansubers will just move back to irc channels and publishers know that <3
A publisher that has no one buying what they published will always be a dead publisher.
So by removing all these 'elements of piracy' will it change that fact? I'd have the pleasure to say 'nope nadda nadda'. You remove the sites, it still doesn't change the fact that no one buys from you. Suck it up, suckers.
All in all, lawsuits are only the best action these old-business-model-runners can think of. Matter of time before they are phased out.
EDIT : Forgot to add - lawsuits cost money, and it definitely don't look good on your tabs.
And I suppose you know of a way to digitize and/or streamline the manga publishing process to a more cost-effective production model?
No, unfortunately. Be happy to listen to if you have any to share.
Sometimes I cant believe that so many people really believe that publishers go after piracy sites cause they believe that they can shut down all forever.
You country have police, does that makes all crimes go away?
its always have been about control.
Piracy do hurts, there are many people who pirate cause they can and its free, it DOES hurt sales. I am one of them and the numbers are not small.
Face it. Its your moral problem. Unlike music which many people listen to it over and over and artist sells on their charisma for fans. Many times manga are only see once then its next. Keep talking about sample and yet after you seen it, its fine.
Manga is alot different from music.
I can give many reasons, in the end it all boils down to you are just not willing to pay for the entertainment, there is just a problem with your moral.
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If I am really so concern about the artist, why dont I just sent the mangaka money as donation straight to their address. I dont cause I wont and never intend to. I can get it for free after all.
Yet this same people are always going on why is the world becoming worst? Stupid laws, censorship, religion fag. How different are you from them? Its never my problem, its always is because they dont listen to ME. ME. ME. ME.
If Im them I will not do this and will do a flawless job, make the best policy, run the best way that all people will be happy.
Why wont people recognise that the root of the problem is that there is just something wrong about ME first. Then work from there.
I have spent hundreds of dollars a year in the past purchasing translated manga from these people. What have they given me in return? Censored art work, butchered cultural references, terrible "Americanized" translations, and most offensively, sometimes they didn't even finish the god damn series. And when you really like the series? They put out one volume every 3-4 months when they're literally dozens of volumes behind the current content being published in Japan.
I would buy individual digital chapters released weekly. I would buy digital "magazines" at the same price they get them in Japan. I would buy cheaply priced digital books released in a timely fashion. At this point in my life as a collector, I have so much stuff in my small living space that I no longer have any interest in buying $10 shitty paperback books sight unseen. They don't want that old business model to die. Please, tell me why I should care when they refuse to update their sales model with the times.
And then why is it that the manga you USED to buy have problems with Censored art work, butchered cultural references, terrible "Americanized" translations?
The very same reasons that its the country YOU live in, YOU vote for the government. YOU create those rules, YOU give them that market perception. The laws that YOU created, YOU implemented the censorship.
And why is it not continued? Cause YOU Pirate it, YOU not supporting it, there is no economy sense in continuing it.
YOU know whats the worst? YOU are not going to do anything about it. And so it all goes back to square one.
You know what? Im a pirate, Im ashamed, Im bad, its not correct. Its a bad karma and someday it will come back to bite me in the ass.
But of cause YOU are not. YOU are just punishing them for not listening to YOU. IT YOUR god given right to do so.
"If only they listen to ME. ME. ME."
Hey, i havent even gotten to the company part.
Apparently you both have difficulty with the English language and are an extreme government conspiracy theorist. This is a consumer business we're discussing here. They believe that that Christian America doesn't want to see certain things in their manga, and so they censor and heavily localize them in an attempt to get better book space in Borders/B&N/etc, and avoid the wrath of soccer moms who aren't looking at what they're buying their kids like retards. That's a business decision to do so. It has nothing to do with the government you nutty fruit cake.
Now, I used to buy that product. I was dissatisfied with the quality they were giving for the amount they charge, so I showed with my wallet like any consumer venture, and stopped buying. When I wasn't buying their shit, I did buy some of the original Japanese tankubons. I'd say about 100 of them if not more. So all your bullshit about how I'm just as bad as you is garbage. You're a filthy pirate who thinks the government is out to get him. I'm a customer waiting to return when they pull their heads out of their asses and distribute product properly for the times. In the meantime, I can get the originals for half the price of the translated off Amazon or at an anime convention and find the translations online. Does that do it for your "goodwill"?
You on the other hand are clearly an idiot who cant think straight. Apparently all your country and society have taught you are for nothing.
Get out of your own shell and look around you more. Go on keep changing your pathetic story. Keep lying and keep your own supremacist attitude. Go back to school if you dont think business are affected by government policy, society attitude etc. How stupid cant you get. Yeah only in America. Your country society and environment is created by YOU. You go and clean up YOUR own shitty place.
You pirate their work, you are nothing more then that. Im A filthy pirate who at least can admit it. You on the other hand not only dont have the balls but also think you are all mighty. Oh yes, only an american.
Now you have level up. Is that how you are taught to talk to people? Name calling? just because I have a different opinion then you?
Is this how your country's education and society have bought you up?
And for all your writing do you want to be taken seriously by people reading or just another raging person useless rant?
The market does not just consist of YOU alone. The YOU I been talking about is the whole lot of people. Even if they release it digitally, it be in japanese. If they are aiming for the states market, it will still be "localise". Cause thats how the government and society and culture over your side deem it.
I didnt miss the part that says you will buy if it is digital. Its your choice, what do you want me to say? Good for you? Good boy in the future?
you know what? its currently not digital distributed base on marketing decision. Its no point of me talking about this what if if its not happening.
Answer me this: Are you so SURE that
"the government has nothing to do with the censorship a private business decides to impose on its imported products in the name of getting better sales numbers."
Are you so very sure about this? Or are you just trying to ignore it in you mind.
You keep saying you dont like this about your country and yet why are you not doing anything to change it? Or is it in the end your ideas are nothing more then ideas for self interest? Is it only about ME.
So you will continue to justify pirating just cause they dont do it in the way you like? If you dont like the US, have you ever even consider buying from the japanese straight? Or as So many people said ever consider sending money to mangaka straight? sending them a cheque and a thank you note.
I spent a significant amount of my life money buying food. Buy now I only steal them cause they dont want to offer things in the way I want in the amount I want in the price. Still I want to eat you know. Its their fault and I will continue to steal until they get their act right FOR ME. After all I do like food.
Yes I am a USELESS and BAD self proclaim pirate. So why are you any different currently? I use to buy too you know?
Answer me this: karma will be back to bite me in the ass someday. So... why is it not the case for you too? What makes you so special?
And where and when did I seems like I ever rage? especially in comparing to you. Please answer me this for all your goodwill.
Hey jackass, you missed the part where I said I WOULD buy it again if it was reasonably priced digital content considering the bullshit they do to the releases over here. And the government has nothing to do with the censorship a private business decides to impose on its imported products in the name of getting better sales numbers. If I could smack some sense into the "God fearing" populace and remove all the racist attitudes in the country by voting for a particular lying politician, I sure as shit would have by now. Unfortunately, this country flips its royal wig at the sight of a nipple or hints of sex, even if they don't blink an eye when half a dozen pages later someone is graphically murdered with bits all over the street. I know the reasons they do it, but it makes me no less bitter about the practice.
And it's not punishing them to not buy the digital downloads they don't have available for purchase. I've given enough of my paychecks over to the terrible US anime/manga industry that I don't think I'll have any trouble sleeping while I wait for them to get their act together. If that day ever comes, they'll have my money on a regular basis again. After all, I like the material, they're just not making it available for me to purchase.
You on the other hand are an internet raging self proclaimed pirate. Like you said, karma will be back to bite you in the ass someday.
wow... you can even lol me.
And yet YOU are the ones that keep voting for the same people with the same policy and same speech, reasoning. Also KNOWING FULLY that things are never going to change. Are YOU a masochist? willing going through all the pain again and again.
It is YOUR choice, YOU Choose to VOTE. Dont listen then dont ever vote them until they do. Its a democracy, Guess what, all those things YOU deem stupid is backed by the majority of YOU.
Again YOU are not going to do anything about it and just vote again for the same thing next time. Wow.. so much for democracy, so much for freedom and choice. The Land of the "free"... he..
"If only they listen to ME. ME. ME."
lol..please. Do you think any person voted into office ever does what they say they will? No. It's not OUR choice these insane laws and things are passed. People get voted in on silver lined clouds and never, ever, do what they promise because they usually are nto allowed ot by the bitter losers of the vote.
They say, in their own words, that they ARE trying to close down all sites forever. So I'm not sure hwat you're point is when the people atatcking these places only speak of killing them and all that follow forever.
They are not Idiots. Dont even stop for one moment to think that they are and while people like you and me and others beside them are the only people with intelligences. They dont get to where they are by being total idiots.
Do I even have to explain it?
In all around the world, polices are set up to shut down crimes TOTALLY and FOREVER. But have any of them ever succeeded? So does that means they are useless and so should be shut down? Its always about being in control and not let things go out of hand.
If only they can have their total ways they will shut down all. BUT... you know it well, I know it well and THEY also know it all too well they cant and NEVER will can. At least with current situation and things etc... Does that mean just because reality is harsh they should not do anything if they wont be TOTALLY effective?
A plocewman in one little town will have a much better chance catching a drunk driver than any publisher will ever have of closing down anything on the world wide web. This is compeltely pointless, where a cop in one small area doing good is not pointless.
So...cops in their own areas do stop things, therefore they have a job and get the job done an still never stop everything. However, publishers in a world wide area will not do squat. Futile. Waste of money they could use to actually roll with the times and start to make money.
They only need to stop major website etc. When things are harder to find on the web that people wanted, more are willing to shell out money for the entertainment they wanted. Who could say its useless. If they mange to control the piracy to some degree, many more people will realise that they will have to pay for their entertainment and will be willing to shell out the money to do so.
If nothing is ever ever done, the mentally of people will never put any value on it and will think nothing to just pirate it. Dont we all always hear,
"look if the party concerned are not even trying to do anything to stop the issue at hand, it means its fine to do it." Substitute it with publisher, mangaka, piracy.
Its not pointless.
.......this is annoying lets say all the sites are sued and closed dow do they know that there will just be a rise in the number of new sites.....close say the top 20 sites you wanna know what will happen i would say at least 200 will pop up lol.....and you want to know how much it coasts to buy 1 chapter of a manga here it is almost 22$ usd ...and there are only 2 places to buy it...i have to go online to get anything and the only problem is that shipping is exactly the same price of how much i buy... i hate that... lol
The antipiracy coalition should pay the scanlators and fansubbers for free marketing of their series and just general interest in Japanese culture.
Well, that WON't help at all.
People might get back where it all started: "IRC" and "Usenet"
They cannot shut down every IRC server in this world [..] Most scanlators offer their scanlated work in IRC networks already!!
Industry is blocking just the mainstream readers, but not the core readers with advanced technological knowledge.
I've got a little memo for the publishers, acts like this do not make me want to buy your product.
When the RIAA began to sue individuals, I vowed to never buy another audio cd. And to this day, I have not. Now the MPAA has foolishly chosen to take the same path the RIAA took and I once again, vow to not buy their product. No longer will I buy Hollywood movies, as with audio cds.
I'm for attacking sites which exist purely to turn a profit at the publishers expense, be it movies/music/anime/comics/mangs/whatever.
Those sites should be killed off, but don't attack the individuals who buy your product. They may not buy every product, but they buy enough of them. And chances are, if they choose to download it, instead of buy it, they were never going to buy it to begin with.
Anything I've ever pirated, I've never intended to buy. I merely wanted to check it out or downloaded on a whim. It has absolutely nothing to do with being cheap or not wanting to pay. And as far as I'm concerned, there is ZERO difference between downloading something or signing it out at the public library.
Oh, but you return a book, you say? I could take a book from the library to the xerox machine or a flatbed scanner and generate a copy, much like I could simply copy a jpg file. The only difference is the amount of work it takes. And the fact that you assume everyone with a downloaded copy is going to redistribute it. When in reality, it'll either be archived or deleted.
So yeah, don't sue your fans or logical thinkers, such as myself will no longer buy your crap.
Another self-righteous pirate.
In the unlikely event you're telling the truth, it's still clear the vast majority of pirates are just in it for what they can get for free and a significant proportion are dissuaded from buying anything due to their ability to pirate.
it is funny cuz he is saying if he download something then he didnt intend to buy it, it looks like he didnt intend to buy manga anyway
said and say it again
if you change the hosts to a country they do not license manga it would be easier
Anyone can pirate a game, yet millions are still sold. Will people that can pirate, pay for it? Some will, yes. Will all pirates have paid to buy it anyways? Probably not. But then no side will ever win that argument. Some pirates would never buy aything, ever, even if they had the money. So they are not hurting anyone. But how to prove that theory? You can't either way.
I'm sure I'm gonna be called an idiot, but I'm FUCKING HAPPY they finally do.
These sites made it way too easy to get manga. Also no one paid anymore. Fuck the rule of the easy-way. It only makes things worthless.
These sites make it possible for us to find manga we like and then buy IF it comes out here. Which, in many cases, it never does.
I see a lot of manga I like taken down...
I'd gladly pay for any decent alternative, but alas, there is NONE for me.
The price vs. quality ratio in my country is pretty low for translated series. Cheap online distribution would be a good solution I think (since now the manga costs too much for what it's worth), but there seem to be some practical problems with that as no-one does it?
C'mon publishers, there has to be SOME decent solution?
If they just took profit from the rising popularity of manga internationally, instead of trying to kill it...
Oh like this is a difficult prediction.
Phase 1, shut down sites on turf that can be influenced.
Phase 2, sites open on sites they can't touch.
Phase 3 business as usual.
Phase 4, MPAA and or RIAA wannabe comic organization gets to suck on it, and they make no more than they were in the beginning.
Maybe if these retards just tried to USE the internet instead of bitching about it, I might care. But I suffer not fools.
Step 5: ?????
Step 6: PROFIT
There's barely any translation for my own language and I'm not spending shitloads of money into imported stuff. I might consider donating for the artist though. Paypal, guys =)
it would be cool if they offer a client that is available to the "whole world"(not just america) kinda like steam where it updates if there's a error and such sadly it will be a long time till that happen until then publishers will just keep ripping of the authors of the series and what not.
That's kind of annoying, considering that the only manga I read on those sites are those that are not likely to be brought over here where I can buy them.
I usually buy manga with the title that I like. If the title isn't licensed at my country, i will download/read online the scanlation one.
So many thieves who won't admit they just want a free ride. Come on guys, we're all anonymous here.
Yes, we are all pirates. But I prefer it this way. Do you know why? Because I do not want to go outside my room to buy some magazines, because I do not like talking to people. Actually I am not used to read a magazines or newspapers or books anymore, it seems unnatural for me when compared to reading it on display.
Why to talk to someone? It's troublesome, I spend 90% of my day alone in my college room, and my only companions are computer and internet!!!
Two Manga will be starting up tomarrow :P
we wouldn't mind supporting the official mangaka's works, but do tell us, what of those poor people who cannot afford to buy the cheapest manga and what about those slackers translators who work for the publishers who only manage a few books every half A YEAR. Natrually we are going for the more efficient and worthwhile service,so publishing companies, buck the FUCK UP and maybe we'll start buying the books
"One Manga" is dead, "Two Manga" will born!! rofl
we dont have manga in our fucking country, my only legal manga i bought is one i found in an anime convention and it was EXPENSIVE about 50 dolars and it was little and the cover wasnt the hard kind, and that was like 4 years ago, now it must be like 120 dolars or something like that. the only way i have to get manga is online
Fucking bullshit! there's nothing wrong with copying and sharing. It's called FILESHARING NOT "PIRACY" you dumb publishing fucks! If i buy something i can AND WILL do as i please with it. If i want to copy it and share it with the world I CAN AND WILL DO SO! ... the only thiefes here more often than not, end up being the dam publishers; and then they get on their moral high horse and tell people about morals... LOL!
In the U.S, I wouldn't buy manga anyways, 90% of the time it's been censored both physically and textually,they usually only carry stuff geared towards people under 16 to begin with and shove it off in the kids section.
Also the translations are usually localized to rather than getting a "Note"
some things going on in the story line get changed to buttfuckery or completely dropped.
All for a Five dollar price hike.
Wow if this shit goes through I'm doomed. I live in Denmark we would barely know manga if not for online releases. When I go into a book store the amount of different manga's is about 5-15 depending on my luck. And they are mostly only the top selling in japan. And they are years behind compared to the online ones. When it comes to translation however we are a bit more lucky since they seem to keep it very true and original. But the lack of manga will break my will and mind.
Publishers... i so hate them when they only put in shops 1-2 chapters when in that manga it 10+
Hmm, now how will I sample manga online before I buy them for real at the store?? It is so much more satisfying owning a few shelves with your favorite series in them, rather than just reading them online/storing them in your hard-drive.
Well, I suppose they won't ever truly be able to stop the distribution of all these, so I don't see much wrong with them trying to keep it under control a bit. But the fact that they're suing individuals is pretty lame in itself....
Lol, good luck.
I would like to see an episode of Law and Order with this theme.
The publishers have no buisiness sense. First of all, I can buy the americanized Shounun Jump with about 500 pages for a mere $4.97 at kroger. At that price, the sales will be much higher than it already is, allowing the publishers to produce more copies at a faster rate, increasing the rate of getting in new volumes.
Seccond, when they find the translation side of the scanlation groups, they shouldn't sue their pants off, they should hire them. That's what the government does with hackers.
The publishers are bigger bastards than any scanner because they butcher the stories with crappy translations and editing, Yes I read scanalations but i also buy all my manga in the original Japanese even though i have to start taking Japanese classes
Fuck the money and publishers. I just want free freaking manga. http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=18812
These idiot publishers are only hurting themselves and the artists.
People who ALWAYS buy, will continue to do so.
People who NEVER buy, will continue not buying.
The remaining people will split into those two groups, with most of them not buying.
For some reason, they seem to think that everyone will buy the actual hard-copies.
The publishers could work with the scanlation sites and make more money!
"We'll allow you to continue to operate, as long as you run our ads with each page that is viewed. You will run this awful JS routine, which won't allow pages to be viewed without our ads. In return we won't shut you down or sue. If you don't, we'll come for you."
This would basically cost the publishers nothing and they would rake in heaps of money from "scumbag" advertisers.
These sites must get millions of hits/week!
People could continue to read for "Free", the publishers and artists would get extra money, the scanlation site owners would get their income and the advertisers would get more victims for their stupid ads.
Who loses under that scenario?
lehnerus2000
Dude, people get things free for a reason. All the companies are doing is scattering the ants and cause them to go deeper underground.
It all come down to one simple fact they can't police millions there will always be ways around the publishers.
Having tons of manga can be impractical for someone in such a small living space as mine.
I would have to read it then throw it away.
I would keep maybe 20 volumes max?
I don't have more space then that.
If they sold it in nice hi es scans.......I could keep thousands on a hard drive........
Uh-oh, that's can't be good...But I still can use Chinese and Taiwan's site >=D
Basically if this actually happens, all servers will relocate to places where the US/Japan laws wont give a shit what they say. Like China or Taiwan.
^ a 100 times this. They'll pick up and move. Easy peasy japanesy.
Just simply purchase manga volume in shops and online like everyone else.
For example, I buy a copy of "Shonen Jump" every month at the local Walmart Supercenter.
Which contains manga from a few years ago...
Tokyopop. Viz. C'mon now guys, chill the fuck out. I can understand that you're concerned about your failing sales and shit, but going after guys who are putting translated guro manga on the tubes is not gonna do you any good.
Have fun Digital Comic Association, you'll kill the sites and then make the torrent, scanlation, even worse. In the end they won't change anything. Picking fights with the internet NEVER ends well.
SOLUTION: Place servers in Canada, have said canadian government laugh at RIAA because they don't give a shit what they say, repeat.
Actually you'd have to choose somewhere like iceland, where the citizens voted overwhelmingly to not make payments on a national debt. If they got the balls to do that, laughing off a lawsuit from foreign companies would be easy for them. Canada would still likely comply.
You know, I'm actually in favour of this going forward.
Why? Because this will prove once and for all that all those lawsuits results in nothing, and the problem with Publishers isn't piracy, but their own greed.
Publishers exploits artists and create paralysis in the creativity side of mangas, turning it into a purely exploitive venture that adds nothing to the culture they're supposed to be helping.
Piracy brought manga titles worldwide, did wonders to spread the anime and manga culture.
But publishers are so full of themselves up their own asses, trying to harvest more and more money off it that they didn't stop to think that it's time to change it's own ways to fit the reality of today.
And I'm counting on people like Shuho Sato to point the way artists should go: Just dismiss these crappy publishers and start finding a way to publish their own work without the middleman.
Seems like RIAA and MPAA efforts on making a buck by acting as ruthless morons, forcing their way with the help of power to bend laws against common people taught nothing.
If corporations nowadays are willing to act like spoiled brats, so be it. They'll have to learn it the hard way.
Agreed, I wouldn't have known about manga's like Inuyasha, Full Metal Alchemist, and Gantz if not for scanlations.
I make no excuse for wanting to see anime for what it is and not censored crap.
I wonder what the publishers will blame after this anti piracy bid fails by that time hopefully manga artist will have kicked out the publisher middleman and expanded worldwide under a partnership with the scanlators.
you mad?
They should just stop releasing manga. Then everyone wins.
Yeah, then why don't we stop producing food while were at it? Then you can starve to death. Fail troll.
They cant stop the internet
Thats like trying to 'kill' watever
I think the usual phrase for things like this is something like ‘trying to prevent information from being copied is like trying to make water not wet’.
you mean anonymous
This will go...nowhere.
i haven't seen a manga yet that i would pay for ... shitty retarded storylines , illogical character actions and responses...
content almost all of it on the level of 'speed racer' (god, i want to puke)...
the fucking retard creators need to crawl out from under their bridges and write something above the level of an 8 yr old hydrocephalic with ADHD...
fuck them in the ass with a rusty rotorooter...
if every manga site went away you would lose nothing...
buy real books and learn something...
Yeah buy the book on "HOW TO TROLL"
get a life!
oh sorry it is tiyr life trolling away
In other words you're here solely for the paedophilia stories. I'm not sure I want to follow your ways.
Its pathetic how closed-minded people like you manage to even troll places like this. If you don't like it then don't come here, fail troll.
New RIAA indeed.
People just love copying bad ideas and spreading them, that so insane. And sad. Instead of things getting better they just get worse.
Nice knowing you, onemanga
let the war begin
Good luck~
Because god forbid the manga artist find out they can actually be PAID for their art instead of having greedy publishers sucking them dry.
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Where is a Will, there is a Way. Don't worry guys, we all don't want to pay for something we can get for free.
Fail. There will always be a way. The only thing they're gonna get out of this is some pocket change and a broken ego once they see how much they failed.
Fuck all of you publishers. IF YOU GUYS DID YOUR JOB WELL THEN WE FANS WOULDN'T HAVE TO RESORT TO THIS. HOW THE BLOODY HELL DO WE GET MANGA IF WERE NOT IN JAPAN OR IN THE US? Most people don't have the privilege of having parents kind enough to fund your hobbies or parents foolish enough to give their paypal accounts to their children so that they can read manga...I'm not a hikokomori. I'm a bloody kid.
and an angry kid at that...hey I'm a "kid" too
I guess web owner aren't that stupid to host at US, they'll host place with much more pirated friendly like China, Indonesia, or Thailand.
Publishers... I'll take this issue seriously when Manga authors starts suing
i hope all manga goes out of business...
hope away.
*I* hope for a statu quo, and dream about copyright owners pulling the brooms out of their asses ; universally responsible scanlation that temporarily removes content when soon available in store and put it back when publishers aren't interested in a new publishing ; publishers making a decent job.
no manga for you.