BDSM Sex Couple Charged with Assault
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Jun 6, 2010 22:53 JST
- Tags: BDSM, Bizarre, Censorship, Courts, Feminism, Law, Raep, Sweden
A couple who decided to engage in kinky BDSM sex now face prosecution after police decided to file charges of aggravated assault against the man, despite both parties consenting.
The couple, a 32-year-old man and a 16-year-old girl (the age of consent in Sweden is 15), met on a Swedish sex website and struck up a steamy BDSM-based relationship.
The girl, apparently the masochist of the pair, wrote in a letter that she wanted to be “used, abused and thoroughly humiliated,” and her sadistic partner was only too happy to oblige, locking her into a cage and applying nipple clamps, amongst other acts.
However, a relative of the girl noticed bruises left over from their play, and police soon stuck their nose in with a view to arresting the man.
The public prosecutor is outraged at the consenting couple’s dungeon antics, conceding that whilst she cannot charge the man with rape due to the consenting nature of their sex, she can still charge him with aggravated assault whether both parties consented or not:
“What I want to establish is that even if they say they are in agreement over this then you not allowed to seriously assault someone.
It is on this issue that the district court has to issue a ruling, is this aggravated assault and was she able to agree to it?”
Sweden apparently allows consenting parties to beat each other’s brains out if they do so in the ring, as with boxing or similar, but it may very well not be permissible to engage in rough sex or BDSM play, consent or no.
The defendant is said to be calling an expert in sadomasochism to testify on his behalf, in a case which could soon be giving police in less radical nations ideas about how to finally get rid of their unwanted perverts without falling foul of tedious arguments over civil liberties – simply accuse them of violence against women.
Leftist gender politics appear to have come full circle – once intended to free women from traditional restrictions, advocates of such politics now use them to restrict and control others, imposing censorship and anti-sex laws in the name of protecting women and girls from male bestiality.
Indeed, feminism is now ironically proving far more effective than traditional religious concerns in imposing moralist laws on the public – few things are now considered more harmful than something potentially injurious to the rights of women.
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The irony of you chastising others for not having the balls to challenge laws you don't like from within an anonymous forum post sailed entirely over your head, didn't it pedo?
Contesting statutory rape is like trying to prevent witch burnings. You're not going to be popular for trying.
This is true of many loony left countries.
I think the UK also does not allow consensual sm
lefts are always worried about a fascist take over but in truth the fascists are in power
How exactly are fascists in power? Fascism is virtually dead in Europe considering what happened in World War 2. The original fascists are either dead or old beyond belief.
Where that picture comes from?
I find it hilarious that the prosecutor is trying to force her to sue when it seems that no one else in her family is trying to go against him, lol.
banging someone half your age; epic win. going to jail for bruise marks; prison rape.
Some additional information according to Swedish newspapers is that she stayed at his apartment for a weekend. He told the police that he during times locked her in a cage and also that he put clamps on her nipples that he fastened to the wall, forcing her to stand on her toes unable to move and proceeded to whip/cane her.
When she got home, her mother noticed severe bruising and swelling and therefore contacted the police. The police are bound by law to start an investigation, and that investigation later lead to charges being filed.
There are no information about what the girl has or has not said, other than the prosecutor saying that the crime is more serious due to that she is a young girl that is very (implied; psychologically) unwell. This could really mean anything though and is a pretty standard thing to say.
My personal reflection is that I cant help but wonder what taking this case to court is going to do to her, depending on how she feels about it today.
ToxikEnvy: They are not forcing her to sue, she doesn't need to do anything and can just sit quiet if she wishes. Assault and aggravated assault falls under "common charges" or something along those lines which means police are forced to investigate and file charges even if the victim does not wish for it.
"male bestiality"? Someone needs to consult a dictionary before writing.
this is some BS, but he will get punished for this no matter what happens due to people being retarded nowadays.
You guys really need to read the facts articles instead of Artefact's usual sexist slant he sticks on the end of thinsg.
Your issues with 'feminism' and 'evil womenz' have nothing to do with this. It's just a dumb case, caused by dumb police and dumb lawyers and a dumb bystander. The girl involved in all this did not press charges against the man; remind me again why this has anything to do with women being evil?
You need to learn that both men and women are flawed, and nonemoreso than the other. In a general sense, it's humanity itself that is 'evil', gender has nothing to do with it. And anyone who sincerely buys into that view that containing a difference in chromosomes somehow influences your moral decency, I honestly just feel sorry for you.
The evil prosecutor in this case, Ulrika Rogland, is a woman.
So, because one woman does something bad, all women are bad.
Yeah, that's sexism at work. Thanks for giving such a wonderful example.
I mean, your claim is as idiotic as claiming that, proven by your idiotic comment, all men are idiots.
In reality, men generally aren't idiots, even if you are one. Using logical fallacies doesn't make you smart, it just makes you easy to laugh at.
What did I claim?
Why is my comment idiotic?
Why am I an idiot?
I quoted you where you asked what this had to do with women being evil. I gave an example of a woman being evil. That's it. Then you went on a fucking rampage about what you probably wish I had said just so that you could rage about some bullshit you had read somewhere else.
Do the world a favor; take anger management classes.
p.s. Internet = srsbsns. Ya rly.
Well, proves that lawyers are scum like we did not know that anyway.
Can someone tell me about a page where I can find girls who want to be (at least) verbally abused?
I see, Swedens criminality rate isn't actually that high, the prosecutors are just paranoid.
Maybe they are so bored from the lack of criminals that they are willing to prosecute innocent people just to have something to do.
As a girl who loves being submissive, this really pisses me off. Not only are they totally invading this couple's privacy, but they are totally out of line by comparing it to violence against women. I hate these fucking anti-sex "feminists" who are trying to tell me that my fantasies and inclinations are wrong. Stay out of my damn bedroom.
I hear you sister! I can't stand these feminazis that think they can make decisions for us, the ones they think they are protecting. If they were truly advocating women's rights, they would let all women think what they want to think, not how THEY want to think.
But that would open the field for men to brainwash women into thinking they like to have sex with them!!!
Sounds like that man
*puts on sunglasses*
needs to pull his head out his ass.
See what I mean?
The New World Order wants to enslave humanity, and one of their most powerful weapons is to destroy the man, under all sorts of guises, like "Feminism".
Problem is that the rights of the feminists and these moral crusaders STOP when they are trying to force their view of morality on other people, period and done with.
I am very sure that Sweden's courts will see the perilous path that the police are treading down, and will throw out this case.
It's also time to realize that 'pervert' is a man-made invention that has no meaning, period and done with.
It's not a question about sex, it's a question if you are allowed to assault someone because they consent. They can have sex as much as they want according to the law.
For example, two drunk men in a bar decides to go outside and beat the crap out of each other, both of them will be charged with assault in Sweden. This case is about sex, but couldn't one say that the state shouldn't be involved in a private duel either?
According to the law you cannot consent to assault. Don't think this case will go anywhere though, just make sure no one sees your partner beaten black and blue.
It's not the same thing. When you're drunk you're not fully aware of what you're doing and saying.
Unless this girl was not in full possession of her faculties (which I highly doubt) I don't see why the state should be involved.
hmm if they are both agreed upon doing(which is stated here) it then i guess no charges should be made. plus it's their life though i guess the relative was concerned about her family. ahh laws :D
What? Consensual means nothing anymore?
Holy shit. This guy literally just stomped the shit out of 95% of the posts in this thread.
Could you dumb fucks actually learn about the law before crying havoc?
THERE IS NO FEMINIST AGENDA OR SO CALLED "LEFTIST GENDER POLITICS" AT WORK HERE.
This is based on precedent, primarily of UK cases, all the way from R v Coney (1882) to probably the most famous application of the doctrine; R v Brown (1994).
These cases were established because it was determined that society did not approve of such levels of violence, consensual or otherwise. And you know what? NEITHER OF THOSE CASES INVOLVED WOMEN.
R v Coney involved a fistfight between two MEN. R v Brown featured a group of sadomasochistic gay MEN.
If you fucktards would open a book for once, you'd know this. But I guess it's easier to simply bitch about feminism than it is to actually know anything.
Fucking idiots.
If you followed your own advice more closely you might realise Swedish law is based on civil law, not common law, so a precedent in a UK court has absolutely no bearing on their decisions.
Feminazi lawyers... what is the world coming to?
Same with children actually.
Child protection and women rights are used to control people!
It's not about rights or protection anymore!
Anonymous said:
Could you dumb fucks actually learn about the law before crying havoc?
THERE IS NO FEMINIST AGENDA OR SO CALLED "LEFTIST GENDER POLITICS" AT WORK HERE.
This is based on precedent, primarily of UK cases, all the way from R v Coney (1882) to probably the most famous application of the doctrine; R v Brown (1994).
These cases were established because it was determined that society did not approve of such levels of violence, consensual or otherwise. And you know what? NEITHER OF THOSE CASES INVOLVED WOMEN.
R v Coney involved a fistfight between two MEN. R v Brown featured a group of sadomasochistic gay MEN.
If you fucktards would open a book for once, you'd know this. But I guess it's easier to simply bitch about feminism than it is to actually know anything.
Fucking idiots.
--Reposting for emphasis, you permavirgin misogynist pedophiles.
Pttf. Well the girl was 16 and the guy was 32. Of course this is going to be bad. Case over. No arguing about it. Age of consent is merely a trap designed by law makers. It doesn't mean anything with that huge of an age gap.
I'd be interested to know if the same charges could be pressed for an 18 year old and 20 year old that were in the exact same situation. If that's true then I have a reason to find these charges outrageous.
Right now they're only half outrageous due to the girl's age.
Uh, EXCUSE me? Did you really just blame feminism and gender politics? Why don't you stick to writing about things you know about, huh? There are PLENTY of people who identify as feminists and also happen to be into BDSM. The feminism I know cares about CONSENT. I, as a feminist, could care less if you enjoy being flogged or needle play. If y'all consent to it and enjoy it, have fun.
I really like the picture chosen for this article :D
My friend of mine made this comment about this article on Facebook:
"I like how they said that feminism has come full circle, because it really has. Feminists a few decades ago were fighting for women to freely express their sexuality, and now radical feminists are trying to outlaw hentai and BDSM because it's 'degrading,' even though no actual woman are mentally harmed or offended in either of those."
Dad: "Well, son, you're of legal age now, your life is your own, and can do anything you want that doesn't hurt someone else."
Son: "Can I kill myself?"
Dad: "There's a law against that."
Son: "Why?"
Dad: "The State is presumed to have an overriding legal interest in protecting the life of an insane person."
Son: "But I'm not insane -- I just want to kill myself."
Dad: "The way the laws are written, attempting suicide is proof that you're insane, and then the State steps in to protect you from yourself."
Son: "So, there's no way I can legally attempt to kill myself, and the law is written in a way which prevents my own life legally, totally belonging to myself."
Dad: "Yup. Of course, if you succeed in killing yourself, there isn't anything the State can do about it. It's only if you try and FAIL to kill yourself that they will step in."
Son: "That's messed-up. Why is it like that?"
Dad: "Because too many people are unwilling to think clearly, and even lie to themselves."
@ Anon 18:37 :
I think the BDSM people are twisted and sick, but I don't trust the psych people to be able to cure them, and I FEAR handing that power and legal charge to the psych people.
If psychiatry truly is a science, why is it that Doctor A will testify in court, "That man is _not_ sane.", and Doctor B will testify in court, "That man _is_ sane."?
Possible answer: "Psychiatry _is_ a science, and the only reason the two doctors disagree is because one of them is incompetent or outright lying."
SARCASM Oh, well, then that's all right, then. /SARCASM.
Wow, your comment is full of SPECIAL logic.
So, people in courts making wrong statements proves that they, as a whole, are not scientific.
You just proved science wrong, including general doctors (he was murdered/no he wasn't), geologists (the company knew it'd suck/they didn't), meterologists (the weather would have prevented him/no it wouldn't) and many others.
Congratulations. Or, maybe, your argument is retarded. I am leaning to that.
Hint: Some things can have different view points. Real life isn't math, there is not a 100% possibility something will happen in exact one specific way. A wound can have many causes, even if they look identical. Drilling oil can have many causes, even if the act of drilling was the same.
And acting in some way can have different psychological causes.
DUH. That's the real world. Unlike the videogames you're used to, things are a little more complex. What you hear in court is simply all sides reporting what is best for their view point. That is why you have both sides. The jury and the judge are supposed to work this out to avoid interest conflicts. DUH.
Legal system: It's really easy, if you use your damn brain.
Wrong case, right issue. There should probably be limits to BDSM, somewhere around feral country, but this is not it, unless those bruises were truly severe.
Stupid feminazi prosecutor.
Feminazi: Because wanting equal rights for women is just like gassing millions of jews.
Anywaaaaay....
Anybody know what CG is this game from?
And once again,the Law has denied the obvious logic.Enough said.
The media is already making him out to be a woman beater.
Sweden likes to convict people for committing victimless crimes. This will be no different.
"Sweden likes to convict men for committing victimless crimes"
Fixed.
Tough luck...
either cops in sweeden are running out of money so they are sticking their nose in everything or they have too much money and want to spend some
WTF??
The girl didn't file the charges the state did.
I think it's time to tell the state to fuck right off.
If she had had a problem, well she didn't that's the thing.
"Apparently in Sweden it is permissible to kill people if they consent, under the guise of euthanasia"
It's not. Doctors may abort life-supporting treatment, but active euthanasia is illegal. People have gone to jail for it.
Passive euthanasia is still murder in much of the world.
If you'd read up about the case you would have realized it is a case of voluntary passive euthanasia, which in most countries are considered legal or grey-area.
In almost all western countries the patient's right to refuse treatment, even if it causes the death of the patient, is established.
Taking someone off life support is usually allowed, especially if its determined that they are braindead etc.
We need to enslave all those bitches once again. Death to feminazis, death to womens rights. Reopen the slave markets. Pay double if she knows how to serve a delicious sandwich.
PS: http://www.godhatessweden.com/
Feminazis on this site? Nah, they should have something better to waste their time on. Like the kitchen. Allowing them to get rights was a grave mistake. Sadly an irreversible error on human behalf. Well, who cares. Gonna stick with 2D anyways. Still... stripping women of their rights would be a nice thing to do. Someone should make a serious anime/manga/VN/LN/whatever out of it. Like Minerva no Kenshi, only nowadays. Or instead of "My girlfriend" for DS, something along the lines of "My slave" for DS. It's a fun idea. And you, the reader, should think about who you'll gonna take serious on the intawebz. (Thinking about what is fun and what isn't would be a nice idea, too. Hopefully you'll come to the conclusion that everything can be made fun of and that nothing is sacred.)
Behold the ronriest man in existence!
I love how you tards try to insert 'WOMENZ ARE EVILZ" into every single article here. This has nothing to do with women, just some tard policemen. Who were probably men. Way to go.
you're digusting.
you guys don't remember that equality now watches this site do ya?
http://www.godhatesjapan.com
Im 18 when i ask a man to abuse me its exactly what i want I dont see why the authorities have to get involved in my business.
Wanna go out some time?
Are you single, and anywhere near Utah?
Stupid bitch tell your master where can I find more ho's to abuse.
Wouldn't the "victim" and the "attacker" both be the defendants in this case? How could the prosecution even hope to win this case?
many otherwise "liberal" countries ban sm under indecency or violence laws.
instead of modernising sex law when they have the chance, politicians stick to moralist views and restrict more and more.
i've read the governement's rationale behind the last revision in my c.o.r. and i was not amused, though i must admit they do have a point.
it's very hard for a politician to be very liberal and still save face when something happens that might have been prevented or could be punished had they imposed stricter laws. and as a successful politician, it's all about saving face. too bad simple people don't understand that well...
Actually, we do understand that... we just don't agree with it. The fact is that morality laws SHOULD NOT BE IN PLACE PERIOD AND DONE WITH! Argument finished for eternity and then some!
If something 'bad' happens? Too damned bad, simply punish the person in question for injuring/killing the person in question without their permission, IF you can prove that they didn't have the person's permission.
"the age of consent in Sweden is 15"
Sweden>USA
14 in italy :D
Still, 12 would be better.
Its 12 in vatican. 13 in Spain.
The age of consent in New York is 18.
Fuck..... >_<
18 to be on the safer side. It's a thin line from 17 to 15-20 years for statutory rape.
No? New York State? 17, bro.
That relative is nosy, just like all relatives >_>
not the most ideal case to try this concept on... a 32yo male and 16yo girl.
you'll be hard-pressed finding anyone with real sympathies for the man.
You conservatives never cease to amuse me.
stop generalizing prick
UMMMM...where do you thing you are?
think*
I sincerely believe that even 16-year-olds have a right to enjoy and have sex.
If it is with me, that's just a bonus.
Age of consent is 15 there, so perfectly within the laws. Besides what's wrong if both legal parties consent to BDSM foreplay? (note the keywords legal and consent)
Learn to read.
Feminazism overrides law now. Its like crying wolf and getting away with it everytime now, its sickening.
..and if it takes over the world, and if the Bible were still to exist at that time, then God will be charged for being sexist plus all the other charges they can put against men.
Pity us men, oh future world. >_<
Unfortunately, you are right. Though, this isn't feminism... this is femNAZIsm, which is different from regular feminism in that the femnazi's wish to make men lesser than women out of perverse desire to 'protect' women when they do not need protecting.
Just keep in mind that the Bible was written by men as the 'Word of God'. Men (with agendas of their own, the manipulative pricks) wrote it, so of course there's gonna be a male-sided slant to it.
BTW... I have no problem with God... it's His asshole mediators on Earth who I outright loathe or ignore.
Well god is a sexist prick, if you'd read the bible you would know. Hell, he's a big prick and douchebag even if you ignore the sexism.
..oh yeah, I forgot to mention about the Bible's credibility..but I'm too lazy to edit so meh~ xDD
I guess people misunderstand me. (not that I blame you)
I was thinking more along the lines of what people will think when reading the newspapers and such.
think: "public opinion".
a friend of mine had this to say a few days ago: "if it had been my daughter, I'd kill the guy" because he felt that while the girl was of age to have sex, the guy still took advantage of someone who wasn't fully matured mentally. (not allowed to vote yet, not allowed to buy booze, or -I think- get a driver's license or get married)
you will find far less public sympathy for the guy in this case than you would if it was about two consenting adults.
that said, yeah.. on sancom he'll find lots.
Well I do think 16 is old enough to consent to sex practice with non-lasting consequences. And vote too, but I'll consent that voting could be something else than a matter of maturity, and more of being an active member of society (in theory.)
Booze, driving, marriage - that's not only yourself that you'll hurt: it's other people and society. If you can't take responsibility for that, you should not be allowed it.
Was the guy supposed to ask a lawyer, "I really want to abuse this 16 year old as a part of our BSDM relationship. But I am not sure of its legality; can you check it up for me?" or something?
I guess it'd be creepy, but remember that ignorance is no defense: he should just have known from the law.
(I still hear here and there people to say that. When they're not rich, I cannot wish them any better than not actually believing any of this crap.)
Once again, logic fails in the eyes of Law
so the prosecutor would have charged him with rape if she could...
hope she succeeds next time
the guys will just go "yea, so no matter what, we are rapists, no need to hold anything back then..."
thatll help the swedish rape statistics, oh yea...
Just is Blind, isn't it?
And stupid.
I want to abuse 16 years old girls too.
An I too, that girl must be awesome.
What's next, having your GF call you "daddy" during sex being tried as incest?
So, are S&M shows like Qwaser not liked in Sweden?
How sad...
No, now Australia will ban a-cup women because they believe it's pedophilia...oh wait...
The fail here is far more entertaining.
Does that mean that my short, cute, A to B-cup Azn girl friends who entered Australia for college are now illegal immigrants? =P
Does someone haves the telephone of that girl? I am interested...
no, it means you are a disgusting pedophile who deserve more serious punishment than killing the "child" herself.
Age of Consent is 15!?!?!?!
Im moving to Sweden
In Sweden the age of consent is 15, unless you have a relationship of dependency, in which case it's 18. (Which means that step-fathers, teachers, etc have to wait until they are 18).
If they parties are close enough in age it can even be below 15. A court has ruled that it was legal for a 17 year old to have sex with a 14 year old.
It's 16 where I live, heck in most of europe it's around 16. The only countries apart from the USA that have age of consent of 21 are muslim countries...
in germany its 14, but EU wants to set it to 18 in all EU-countrys...!!!
Here it is 16.
BUT, this is some weird ass shit, if BOTH parts are under 16, it's "legal" if both parts want to have sex. Otherwise it'd be rape and that's only legal with married ones in arabic country.
If one part is over 16, it's illegal.
I think 12 is the minimum age to get married in some Arab states. However, marriage carries consent.
Also, 13 for Vatican? [insert pedophile priest joke here.]
Actually, age of consent in Vatican is 12, only Spain has 13. source: Wikipedia.
Anonymous
02:31
age of consent means nothing.
iv talked with cops about this issue while i was in school
i was 18 and asked if i had a freshmen girl friend could i have sex with her? a 4 year age gap, and was told that its technically illegal, but no cop gives a shit.
but than if the fairly presses stat rape charges, you are more or less fucked because of where you live is a moralistic hell hole. and yes the cop said moralistic hell hole.
The Vatican actually stated that they were to change the age of consent in light of the recent pedophilia scandals. The low age of consent has been an issue brought up in the past and with the recent development it's come back to haunt them.
So to kill two birds with one stone they're lowering it to 3.
age of consent is 18 in my country but most ppl lost it at 14 and law enforcement is pretty relaxed on the matter.... what you do have to look out for is being caught by the father ^^""
no age of consent with muslims is 12 , legal age for cigarettes is 21 .
Where was it that one at 13? I couldn't recall off the top of my head right now. hmm...
EDIT: ah, right, Spain and the Vatican, how I love google.
you a pedo.
USA Age of Consent = 21? Where did you read that? Age of Consent varies state to state with the highest being 18, because you're a legal adult at 18.
13 in the Vatican? For what, there's no fucking going in in there, at least we hope so...
Age of consent is 16 in the state of Michigan...
What left-wing politics? Sweden has right-wing government since 2006.
Choose it correct which you want to blame somebody or any party for this.
I live in Sweden.
14 (with some conditions) where I live
tacgnol is awesome these laws are fail
the a-cup thing was a hoax, actually
"You're either a troll or seriously need to get your facts straight. It was NOT a hoax."
Or you could be less full of shit and check the facts yourself. Yes it's stupid the classification board even considers looks over FACTS (legal age, documentation to prove it) but breasts specifically targeted? No proof for that assertion only a bunch of porn publishers self censoring.
The problem isn't the laws in place (well it is but it isn't). The problem is the ACB is run by a bunch of lawyerish child welfare types. Yes prudes. Prudes run our classification board.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/29/has-australia-really-banned-small-breasts/
" The Australian Classification Board (ACB) has confirmed to Somebody Think Of The Children that a person’s overall appearance is used by the Board to determine whether someone appears to look under the age of 18 in a film or publication.
…
Asked whether breast size was considered by the Board when determining age, McDonald said he had no further comment to make."
Oh yeah? In Canada it's 14. Just take a visit up north.
Whoops, sorry, the age has been lifted to 16 two years ago, heh, sorry lolicons.
ACB = A Cup Boobs
You're either a troll or seriously need to get your facts straight. It was NOT a hoax.
Ha ha ha.... oh wow!
Don't give the Judicial branch of any country ideas, DarkJack. They'd do that in a heart beat, even without EN's prodding.
Well... Sweden does have the highest rates or rape and such shit, so yea...
oh shi-, i just had that this morning...